2 Disc DVDs in DVD2SVCD

[JLR2000]

Sorry for the newbie question, but how do I use DVD2SVCD with 2 disc movies like Pearl Harbor? Do I need to rip all of the files from both discs to my HD first?? Thanks for any help....

[Bob01605]

As I recall Pearl Harbor has about 2 hours of video on the FIRST disk and about 1 hour on the SECOND disk. What I did was to rip the first disk as if it were ONE movie and had DVD2SVCD place it on TWO CD-R's. I then ripped the SECOND DVD disk ( 1 hour or so of video) and placed it on ONE Cd-R.

Bob

[markrb]

Real simple to do it as one movie. I have done several this way.

1. Get SmartRipper from Doom9.org
2. Rip disc one into a temp1 directory.
3. Rip disc 2 into temp2 directory
4. Find the highest number VOB file in temp1 (ex.. VTS_01_6.VOB)
5. Rename all VOB files in temp2 1 number higher then highest in temp1 (7,8,9, etc...)Making sure the files are the same except for the last number.
6. Copy all VOB's from temp2 into temp1.
7. erase temp2.
8. Edit all non VOB files that can be with a text editor and add all newly named VOB files just like the ones already listed. IFO file cannot be edited with a text editor and doesn't need to be modified.
9. Start DVD2SVCD and make sure DVD ripping is checked.
10. Select IFO file from temp1
11. Make sure output directory is NOT temp1
12. Procede as normal remembering time listed is NOT correct, but this will not make a difference to DVD2SVCD.
13. After DVD2SVCD has finished ripping you may delete temp1 directory.

Mark

[Kedirekin]

One addition to markrb's comments...

There are more than 10 vobs total from the two discs. When I did Pearl Harbor, I ripped to 2 GB vob files (you can do this with either vStrip or SmartRipper - though in my case I didn't notice till after I ripped, so I used dvTools to join pairs of vobs).

When you're done, you'll have something like six big vobs, which you can then rename as markrb recommends.

[mrbass]

10 vobs? that used to be the limitation of dvd2avi but the new dvd2aviCLI that dvd2svcd modified supports up to 255 vobs now.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?&threadid=10224

[Bob01605]

"Real simple to do it as one movie. I have done several this way.

1. Get SmartRipper from Doom9.org
2. Rip disc one into a temp1 directory.
3. Rip disc 2 into temp2 directory
4. Find the highest number VOB file in temp1 (ex.. VTS_01_6.VOB)
5. Rename all VOB files in temp2 1 number higher then highest in temp1 (7,8,9, etc...)Making sure the files are the same except for the last number.
6. Copy all VOB's from temp2 into temp1.
7. erase temp2.
8. Edit all non VOB files that can be with a text editor and add all newly named VOB files just like the ones already listed. IFO file cannot be edited with a text editor and doesn't need to be modified.
9. Start DVD2SVCD and make sure DVD ripping is checked.
10. Select IFO file from temp1
11. Make sure output directory is NOT temp1
12. Procede as normal remembering time listed is NOT correct, but on this will not make a difference to DVD2SVCD.
13. After DVD2SVCD has finished ripping you may delete temp1 directory.

Mark"

Mark -
This is not meant to be a flame but the gentleman who asked the question is a newbie - Your "real simple" answer is not so "simple" to someone not familiar with DVD2SVCD.
At least with Pearl Harbor on two disks, ( 2 hrs on disk 1 and 1 hr disk 2 )a much simpler way ( for a newbie ) is to load disk 1 in the CONVERSION tab and hit "GO" - When that conversion to SVCD is done a few hours later ( and you have burned your 2 CD-R's ) load disk 2 in the CONVERSION tab and hit "GO" - You get ONE CD-R.
I also realize that my method will not work very well if the movie was broken up as a 1 1/2 hour and 1 1/2 hour split on the 2 DVD's. My impression, at least in this case, is that you don't need THIRTEEN "simple" steps.

Bob

[JLR2000]

Thanks for everyone's help. Mark, I tried your way and while there were many steps, I think I followed it okay. My burn didn't fare so well, it seems like the bonus material was joined and there was no sound for it. I blame my own lack of knowledge on the subject. I will try Bob's suggestion now since it seems like it would work with Pearl Harbor and how the movie is split on the two DVDs. Thanks all for your help.

[mrbass]

what you should do is rip the correct angle. How do you know which is which. Just guess and then after you've ripped the vobs verify them by following doom9's excellent HD playback guide (http://www.doom9.org/mpg/hd-playback.htm)

[chainsaw135]

I did Pearl Harbor NTSC about 1 month or so ago. I did the same thing BOB has spoken of and the movie turned out fine. Like Bob said the 2 cd's are setup so that cd #1 fits on 2 cds with good quality and cd#2 fits on 1.

[Wh00pS]

you lot should live in europe, we got the movie all on 1 dvd with the second disk just for extra's...

[markrb]

First I am not saying your method doesn't have merit, but this is why I think the above method taught to me by DVD2SVCD is better.

As long as you get the right angle this method is pretty simple. Only takes about 2 minutes after you finish ripping and this way you do one encode and have one constant bitrate.
Everyone is a newbie at some point, but with simple instructions and easy to follow guides I think that 99% of the people will get it easy enough.

Using your method it is possible to end up with a final image on the first encode of just a few MB's to 300+mb. I am not willing to waste a cd-r disk and my time on five minutes of video.

With your method bitrates can vary between each encode giving inconsistent quality.

With my method the bitrate and the number of cd's are calculated for the entire video making sure all discs are as full as possible.

You have more options for the bitrate and number of CD's used when doing it the way I mentioned.

With my method change disk images are on all discs, but the last.
There is no way to accidently get the startup image on the third CD.

In my opinion putting an hour on one CD-R is going to make the video with too low a bitrate.
I ended up using 4 Cd's for Pearl Harbor myself.

I really think it's worth the time and effort invested to figure out how to do it this way to get the best possible encode.
I think learning more about the inner working is fun, but maybe I am crazy.


Mark

[halcyon]

Can anyone tell me which title, program chain and angle is the one to rip from the second disc? I've been using SmartRipper when ripping for testing or in situations like this, so here is what I see: there are a total of 10 titles on the disc. Title 6 and title 8 are the most likely candidates since they're the only two over 3GB. Title 6 has two program chains, but the second chain has only one angle and it's for 1 second. The first chain in title 6 has two angles, both with 00:53:44, and I don't see any differences other than a very small difference in size. Both have 14 chapters and 2 cells (btw, what is a cell?). I tried ripping the 6th chapter from both to see what the difference was, and they were different scenes, so I have no idea which one I want. There's also title 8, with 3 program chains. The first two are most likely what I want, but I haven't even checked these yet. I was hoping to find out which to rip from someone who has already done it successfully. Thanks.

-=<halcyon>=-

[markrb]

I do not remember which angle I chose to rip, but you can check the VOB files by loading them into WinDVD or DVD2AVI to see if you got the right ones before you start the encode. It's probably not a bad idea to do it even if you are pretty sure you got the right ones anyway just to be sure and save yourself a day of encoding if you got the wrong ones by accident.

Mark

[halcyon]

I tried previewing in DVD2AVI chapter 6 from both of the two angles from program chain 1, title 6, and they were different scenes, so I don't know which is correct. Plus I don't have my sound drivers installed yet since I'm about to reformat again but want my computer doing something while i sleep :). I totally agree about the wasting a day part though, because that's what I'm trying to avoid. Thanks for the quick reply mark, and if you or anyone remembers which angle to rip, please let me know. I'm going to sleep now though, so hopefully someone will post it by tomorrow morning :). if not, i'll just spend a little more time and figure it out myself. thanks again!

-=<halcyon>=-

[JX]

I tried to use Mark procedure to RIP "The Rock" - PAL edition on double sided DVD, with subtitles.

The process completed normal but the part relating to 2nd disc there is a problem with video and audio syncro - audio delayed +/- 2 to 3 seconds.

Same hapened with "Universal Soldiers".
Can someone help me, please, to make correct SVCD?