Has anyone had to pay for bios upgrade from phoenix or americamegatrend

[chipsjoint]

just a quick question,has anyone else had to pay for bios upgrade from phoenix or americamegatrend :stupid:??

[neuron2]

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[burfadel]

Bios updates are free from the manufacturer of your motherboard, I think that is what you are referring to?

[Shinigami-Sama]

Bios updates are free from the manufacturer of your motherboard, I think that is what you are referring to?

I asked for a bios update for a client's PC and they said some legalise about licenses or some crap
I didn't understand it, nor did I try either
client had their PC for 3 days at that point...
on an old P3 mobo too
you'd think they'd just post the bloody things on a nice readonly FTP...
but noooooo

[Blue_MiSfit]

Well, who did you talk to - the motherboard / system manufacturer, or AMI / Phoenix?

~MiSfit

[Shinigami-Sama]

Well, who did you talk to - the motherboard / system manufacturer, or AMI / Phoenix?

~MiSfit

their stupid ecare outsourced solution
it was ami/phoenix BS

[Inventive Software]

Can't remember the BIOS manufacturer (probably American Megatrand), but my mum and my brother had got swish new 80GB HDDs for their respective computers (this was about 6 years ago), and the BIOS on the P3 machine and my bro's P2 machine needed updating to accomodate the beasts. My mother took the "safe" option of purchasing a new BIOS chip, for about £40. It was reasonably easy to remove the old one and place in the new one, and the new disk was ready to go. On my brother's computer, she decided to flash the BIOS, successfully as it turned out, to accomodate the new hard disk. Peace of mind at £40 can't be underestimated. :)

I've not had to update my BIOS on my desktop (the mobo's already at it's latest BIOS revision, and that's 7 years old), or my laptop, but I will do for my Dell laptop soon because there's been some critical updates in the year and a half I've had it. Since the chip vs flashing scenario many years ago, I've noticed most of the major motherboard manufacturers have developed soft BIOS updating programs that can be run in Windows, without need of the scary 1.44MB 3.5" floppy disk + BIOS image and the need to perfectly follow the instructions and be extremely careful with what you're doing when you run the DOS program. It's been a long time coming IMO.

[chipsjoint]

:thanks:i talked with a tech at phoenix,and this what he said,we don't do anything else but bios and firmware upgrades.he also said 'megatrend' was brought out by phoenix.oh well.

[chipsjoint]

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[setarip_old]

@chipsjoint

Hi!

Just curious to know why you needed a BIOS upgrade.

[chipsjoint]

just about that time

[setarip_old]

just about that timeHuh?

Would you please be a bit more specific, please?

[Shinigami-Sama]

Huh?

Would you please be a bit more specific, please?

time for an update

you've never updated something because its been a while since I was updated?

[setarip_old]

you've never updated something because its been a while since I was updated?Au contraire - I am a firm believer of the old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - and a PC's BIOS is a wonderful example of that concept.

If the installed version properly addresses all hardware that comprises the system, I'd not be intersted in updating the BIOS - unless I was aware of some SIGNIFICANT improvement in an update...

[Shinigami-Sama]

Au contraire - I am a firm believer of the old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - and a PC's BIOS is a wonderful example of that concept.

If the installed version properly addresses all hardware that comprises the system, I'd not be intersted in updating the BIOS - unless I was aware of some SIGNIFICANT improvement in an update...

I come from the server world
where there are updates frequently
in fact we had to update the BIOS on several of our workstations a few times in just 2 years

[setarip_old]

in fact we [COLOR="DarkRed"]had to update the BIOS on several of our workstations a few times in just 2 yearsThe phrase "had to" (as opposed to "chose to") implies a necessity.

Likewise, if I found it "necessary", I too would update my BIOS - but, as I said before, no, I've never "updated something because its been a while since I was updated"...

[Shinigami-Sama]

The phrase "had to" (as opposed to "chose to") implies a necessity.

Likewise, if I found it "necessary", I too would update my BIOS - but, as I said before, no, I've never "updated something because its been a while since I was updated?"...

I've never seen a bios update be anything but good, outside of PSP's
but thats sony another matter entirly

[setarip_old]

I've never seen a bios update be anything but goodThat has nothing to do with either the difference between "necessity" and "choice" or our differing outlooks. So what say we simply agree to disagree and leave it at that?

[Ascii2]

I've never seen a bios update be anything but goodI have. Sometimes newer BIOSes introduce new flaws. This also applies to firmware in general.

[Ascii2]

Au contraire - I am a firm believer of the old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - and a PC's BIOS is a wonderful example of that concept.

If the installed version properly addresses all hardware that comprises the system, I'd not be intersted in updating the BIOS - unless I was aware of some SIGNIFICANT improvement in an update... Often, the significant part of a BIOS update is not of the system BIOS component itself, but of other BIOS or firmware included with a BIOS binary file or on system FlashROM (such as VideoBIOS, Network Interface boot ROM, CPU Microcode, etc.).

[setarip_old]

@Ascii2

Hi!

Since you've quoted me, I would say to you that your statement regarding potential changes via a BIOS update doesn't impact or alter my outlook at all, to wit:

If the installed version properly addresses all hardware that comprises the system, I'd not be interested in updating the BIOS - unless I was aware of some SIGNIFICANT improvement in an update - SIGNIFICANT being the operative word...