Blocks...

[HaJ-B]

Hey!
After encoding with ProCoder 3, using "Mastering Quality", I'm getting some of this "blocks" in some parts on the movie.
I'm also using the "64-bit IEEE-1180 Reference" iDCT mode. None of the "ConvertToYUV2()" or "AudioDub(BlankClip())" are selected.
Here is the log if it helps:

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[01:11:32] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.26.6
- AVISYNTH 2.5.7.0
- ProCoder selected.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode (25%) is enabled.
- Source: BLUES_BROTHERS
- VTS_01: 3,523,459 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 212,597 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 443,889 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 47,986 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 57.1%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,096Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,938,872KB
- Redistributing using Base_Q: 31
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 3.4%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,815/400/3,096 Kbs
[01:24:00] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 13 minutes.
- WARNING: Viewer/Editor settings are over target.
[01:38:03] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
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-- V01000100001002 no .M2V, retrying.
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- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
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- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_02 segment 3
[04:02:27] Phase II ENCODING completed in 144 minutes.
[04:02:28] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
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- ISO Image successfully created.
[04:23:25] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 21 minutes.

Done.

[manono]

Hi-
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 57.1%
Depending on the amount of "overhead" for reencoding this particular movie has, that's a lot of compression. You might, if you haven't already, dump some or all of the extras, or any extra audio tracks, to try and get that compression figure up.

[HaJ-B]

Thanks, m8.
Is there any way of keeping the extras?
How much the reduction level should be so that the encoiding will become errorless?

Say, you're from Hawaii, right?
Can I consult with you about something?
I'll send you PM if so.

[manono]

Hi-
Is there any way of keeping the extras?
Well, some people might add a filter into the script, to make the movie more compressible. Or you might free up some more space by compressing the extras more than the 25% (which only added 3.4% to the movie), but they'll quickly begin to look like garbage. If they're that important, you might consider just splitting the DVD into 2 parts and burning each to its own DVD5, and then you wouldn't need to compress anything. Or back up the whole thing to a DVD9. I haven't ever worked with it, but I have a feeling that The Blues Brothers, because of all the action in it, is a difficult movie to compress.
Say, you're from Hawaii, right?
Can I consult with you about something?
Yes and yes, as long as the "consultation" is about something unrelated to video encoding. We usually like to keep such discussions here in the forums so others with similar questions/problems can also learn. Not that I've said anything of any great brilliance here. :)

[HaJ-B]

OK. I'll check it out. BTW, does DVD-RB can split it into two DVD-5's? Haven't seen any option like that.
And what about the reduction level? What is the level that below it the movie would look "crappy"?
And thatnks again, manono!

[manono]

No, DVD-Rebuilder doesn't split DVDs. But VobBlanker does. Here's a guide:

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides/VobBlanker/splitdvd9/index.php
What is the level that below it the movie would look "crappy"?
There's no way to tell in advance. For some, even 25% might not look too good. For others 50% might still look OK.

[HaJ-B]

No, DVD-Rebuilder doesn't split DVDs. But VobBlanker does. Here's a guide:

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides...dvd9/index.php
OK, I'll try that one, thanks.
But first:

Well, some people might add a filter into the script, to make the movie more compressible.
Can you tell me which filter is that?

[manono]

Can you tell me which filter is that?
No, sorry. I don't generally use spatial and/or temporal denoising filters in my scripts. I don't use DVD-RB but do all my encoding manually. I generally let the quantisation matrix chosen do any necessary filtering. There's plenty of discussion on the subject of filtering in both the DVD-RB and AviSynth forums. Or perhaps someone else might like to make a filter suggestion in this thread.

[HaJ-B]

Hey!
Didn't notice there's a forum for DVD-RB.
manono did a great job trying to help me out, but I hope you wouldn't mind me posting here the same thread I posted at Newbies forum...
Maybe someone here will help me solve the filter problem, or maybe even find other way figuring out how to fix the encoding problem (manono - no offence, m8 :)...)
Well, here it is:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137164

[blutach]

Please don't cross post. Threads merged.

Regards

[HaJ-B]

Sorry...
Thanks.