Streaming h264 to Xbox 360 problem

[Black Patriot]

Hello,

I have been successfully using the Xbox 360 to view videos on my TV from my computer, however I have been having some problems with a few 1080p movies i recently got. The main problem i have is that the settings are the same as with other 1080p videos that i have, yet the Xbox refuses to play them. I am relatively certain that I have conformed to all the required criteria for h264 video on the 360, and both videos have been encoded with the profile provided in MeGUI.

I have attached all the information that MediaInfo provides on 2 files, both 1080p, but video_1 won't work on the Xbox and Video_2 will.

I have heard that the Xbox has problems with files over 4GB, however i have also heard that streaming from the PC solves this problem.

Any help would be appreciated

[Black Patriot]

Sorry for the double post, but does anyone have any suggestions as to why this is happening?

[ACrowley]

Hello,

I have been successfully using the Xbox 360 to view videos on my TV from my computer, however I have been having some problems with a few 1080p movies i recently got. The main problem i have is that the settings are the same as with other 1080p videos that i have, yet the Xbox refuses to play them. I am relatively certain that I have conformed to all the required criteria for h264 video on the 360, and both videos have been encoded with the profile provided in MeGUI.

I have attached all the information that MediaInfo provides on 2 files, both 1080p, but video_1 won't work on the Xbox and Video_2 will.

I have heard that the Xbox has problems with files over 4GB, however i have also heard that streaming from the PC solves this problem.

Any help would be appreciated


I never had any Problmes on 360 with Files over 4Gb and i dont know anyboody. Never heard about it.
All my WVC1 encodes are minimum DVD9 Size..No Problmes when playing from Disc or via Streaming

Maybe the AAC Audio is not compliant ??

[Black Patriot]

I don't think that the audio is the problem, as i have made an mp4 containing just the video stream and the Xbox has refused to play it, unless there is some requirement for there to be an audio stream that i don't know about.

Also, can the Xbox 360 handle more than 2 audio channels in AAC in the mp4 container?

[crypto]

Xbox 360 does not play mp4s with more than one audio track nor mp4s with 64bit addressing, which is needed for > 4GB streams. It also does not play 5.1 audio from mp4 neither AAC HE nor AC3. Thre is also a combined limit between resolution and the h.264 level.

I believe most limits are artificial to enforce the use of WMV, which doesn't imply those limits, as ACrowley mentioned.

[Black Patriot]

The data for the not working video is:
Video Profile: 4.1
Reference Frames: 3
Bit Rate Mode: VBR
Bit Rate: 7930 Kbps
Max Bit Rate: 31.3 Mbps (which surprised me)
Audio Codec: AAC LC
Bit Rate Mode: VBR
Bit Rate: 256 Kbps
Max Bit Rate: 325 Kbps
Channels: 2

Data for the working video:
Video Profile: 4.1
Reference Frames: 3
Bit Rate Mode: VBR
Bit Rate: 6150 Kbps
Max Bit Rate: 15.5 Mbps
Audio Codec: AAC LC
Bit Rate Mode: VBR
Bit Rate: 163 Kbps
Max Bit Rate: 189 Kbps
Channels: 2

Do i need to change the settings, and is the 31.3 Mbps peak too much for the Xbox, and if so how do i change it?

[lexor]

Do i need to change the settings, and is the 31.3 Mbps peak too much for the Xbox, and if so how do i change it?

how did you set it? well you said you used megui, so if you used 2 pass (auto 2pass maybe?) then use the bitrate calculator to set the target size and it'll get the bitrate to match. If you made a crf encode, raise crf value higher.

[Black Patriot]

I set MeGUI to 2-pass encoding with the average bitrate of around 8Mbps (i think i did 8192 to be precise), level 4.1 and the audio set to 256 Kbps AAC-LC. Is there some other way of doing the encoding that will still get good quality.

Also, the case is that the Xbox simply refuses to play it, i would have though that the Xbox would play it until the bitrate got too high, and as the start of the file is black with music then it should at least play that far.

[desta]

Could you post some more info about the troublesome encodes, maybe a log from avinaptic or even megui?

[Black Patriot]

Avinaptic seems to give some odd results, as you can see in the log i have attached. I have also attached the log from MediaInfo, as this seems to provide more info. I can't make sense of it myself...

The two from the Star Wars film are the respective logs from AVInaptic and MediaInfo, and the Ironman trailer log is a reference i have put in there to show an example of a file that does work on the Xbox. To be clear, Star Wars does not work, Ironman does...