Should I write a quick/guide to decrypting Blu-Ray/HD-DVD's?

[QuadcoreHD]

Hey All,

I hope I'm not completely stating the obvious here, but does anyone think it would be beneficial to post an extremely basic guide to decrypting Blu-Ray/HD-DVD's, removing "unnecessary" stuff (i.e. non-needed audio tracks and all video tracks besides the features) then converting it to a format for storage?

I'm basically referring to a process something like this:

-use AnyDVD to rip disc to hard-drive
-use tsmuxer, select VC-1/H264/MPEG-2 video and english audio (just as an example, of course you can select whatever language you'd need) and mux to blu-ray format
-convert BMDV to ISO with image burn

now, of course there are MANY additional things that could be done here, compression, resizing, subtitles, the list goes on...but this guide would just include the most basic steps to storing your blu-ray/HD-DVD movie in 1080p on your machine.

Now, I dont pretend to be anything close to an expert, but it took a long time, and a LOT of help from members of this forum for me to even figure out these most basic steps, and i just thought it would be very helpful to have something like this for anyone just getting started - just like I was a few months ago : ) Theres alot of very very good guides on here, but i havent really seen something that covers the absolute basics for people who are literally just getting started.

-Oh and maybe it would also benefit those people who were just like me and got incredibly annoyed when the discs they paid good money for stoped working for some reason or another : )

Anyway, If this sounds like a decent idea I'll write something up.

Of course, suggestions, ideas, comments are welcome.

thanks!

[unskinnyboy]

There can never be too many guides; people have different levels of expertise, so any beginner would appreciate your guide. I'd say the same even if this is about a topic about crocheting, and not about Blu-Ray.

[QuadcoreHD]

Haha, good point.

Also, should this go under Decrypting, HD-DVD/Blu-Ray authoring, etc?... I'm just not sure exactly where i should put this...

[Sharktooth]

I think you should split your guide in 2 pieces.
One for decrypting, the other for the re-authoring part.
However if you want to keep all things together then post it in the decrypting forum

[QuadcoreHD]

Thanks Sharktooth. Ok its been a ridiculously long day at work, I'll write something up this weekend, shouldnt take too long at all :P

[his dudeness]

Will this work for streaming to a PS3 as well? It was my understanding that VC-1 wouldn't stream to the PS3...and work?

[fibbingbear]

I think such a guide would be helpful. I don't have any Blu-Ray / HD-DVD discs now, so I have no idea how to do it. When I eventually get them, the first thing I'll look for is a guide on the subject :)

[QuadcoreHD]

Finally did it. Check it out here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151

I'm getting nervous though because nobody's commenting on it (good or bad :(

[unskinnyboy]

Finally did it. Check it out here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151

I'm getting nervous though because nobody's commenting on it (good or bad :(Link to it in your sig. Sooner or later someone will try it out, and will come back with questions or comments.

[Pprj]

I came here today looking for information and some reading material. And found your guide. Thanks!

In the past, I learned everything about DVD copying, Divx, etcetera, in this forum.

Now I want to do the same with HDTV material. I'm thinking about getting a BluRay player but want to keep my originals intact.

My questions would be:

- How to copy a BluRay movie? I use AnyDVD and DVD Rebuilder for my stardard DVD needs.

- In what media should I save the copied material? Today I copy all my DVDs to DVD 5. This is what I watch. That saved me a few times already, specially with the kids. You know how kids treat their DVD disks. (I wouldn't want to connect a media pc to my video system and have a video jukebox. That option is really not realistic in my case). So, I'd like to save the copied (compressed?) material to another media. Does it have to be Blu Ray? What other HD options do I have? What are the best recorders for this media?

- And finally, what player do I need to get to play the copied material on my TV set? I learned everything about Divx compatible players here. And I believe it's now time to jump to the next level. I just don't know exactly what.

I'd appreciate if you guys that know everything about these topics could point me in the right directions and tell me where to go to educate myself. I've been searching the internet for guides and how-to material, but honestly I have yet to find something that someone with my (low) level of knowledge can understand.

Thanks for any htin.

PP.

[QuadcoreHD]

Sorry, I'm somewhat confused about what you are asking.

"In the past, I learned everything about DVD copying, Divx, etcetera, in this forum.

Now I want to do the same with HDTV material.I'm thinking about getting a BluRay player but want to keep my originals intact."

- What do you mean? Blu-Ray disc originals, or video recorded from a video capture of some sort from your TV? you seem to reference HDTV and DVD's, but I'm not sure exactly what your talking about in the quote above. Please clarify if you can.


As far as your "How to copy a BluRay movie?" question, the answer to that is in my guide (see my sig), as well as many other threads on this site.


As far as media, you could put backed up blu-ray material on any type of media, however your not going to get a "true" backup of a disc (if you want to keep it in its origial form) on anything other BD-R discs. I would personally not recommend this however as blank Blu-ray discs hover around the $20 dollar range...you're almost better off buying another copy of the disc. In addition, the vast majority of Blu-ray movies I own are on dual-layer BD Discs. I don't know if you can purchase dual-layer bd blanks at this point, or even if there are blu-ray burners capable of dual-layer burning. ...At this point the cheapest option is hard-drive space, you can store a movie for about $3-5 bucks, depending on the size of the BD Disc you are backing up.

If you are in-fact placing your backups on DVD-9 or 5, you'd need to check the specs of the DVD player you have or plan to purchase. Remember that BD can have 45+ gigs of information on them (which is not uncommon at all...the fifth element, ratatoullie, etc...) now if you consider how many discs making a "true" backup would be, it's seems a bit crazy to me :P

As you've indicated there are various players that are compatible with different codecs. You'd need to keep in mind howver that even on an extremely fast PC, encoding 20+gigs of data from a BD disc to another format (Divx, xvid, etc...) will take upwards of 12 hours, not to mention time demuxing/muxing, authoring a new BD-Disc, burning etc...

Anyway, (and I do find it annoying when people hock their own guides/programs incessantly) please check out my guide for the basics of backing up Blu-rays...at this point its still the simplest I've run across.

[Pprj]

Thank you QuadCoreHD for the reply.

Your guide was very valuable to me. I was able to understand the basics reading the material you prepared.

Now, you use a PC and an ISO file to play the content. I'd like to use a standalone player.

Question is, what player? Does it have to be a BluRay player?

And how do I prepare the media to feed this player?

So I guess your guide if the first half of the process. I need to know how to do the second half.

Thank you very much for helping.

[cdanddvdpublisher]

Link to it in your sig. Sooner or later someone will try it out, and will come back with questions or comments.

Always the best plan of action - and hey, looks like it worked!

[QuadcoreHD]

@PPrj

As I indicated before, the player you need will depend on how you want to backup your discs. If you want to encode, you will need to make sure your dvd player is compatible with your codec and google will help you with that.

You do not necessarily need a blu-ray player to play blu-ray content as some discs are encoded in mpeg-2 which a standard dvd player should read...if the disc is in AVC/h.264 format, you can always encode to mpeg-2, or another format certain dvd players can read. that being said you'd need to change the blu-ray content into dvd format for that to work which would require a separate program.

As far as preparation is concerned, you will not find that in the guide because it does not cover additional processing that can be done. There are dozens of ways you can process your disk and about half-a-dozen very common formats (Mkv, wmv, divx, xvid, avc/h.264 etc...) you can use.

In all honesty you'll have to search through doom9 to find specifics on your questions, unfortunately I am not nearly knowledgeable enough to give you all the answers your looking for.