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setarip_old
20th March 2008, 22:27
In the hope of shedding some additional light on the oft' discussed quality difference between Verbatim D/L DVD+Rs manufactured in Singapore versus those manufactured in India (Both, by the way, bear an MID of "MKM-001-00" - The ONLY identifiable difference is the small typesize phrase "Made in ..." on a paper label), I recently purchased a pack of the "Made in India" Verbatim D/L DVD+R discs to compare to my supply of "Made in Singapore Verbatim D/L DVD+R discs. The somewhat surprising results were as follows (5 of each were tested):

1) Both varieties yielded perfect results when burned on my SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A at 2.4X

2) The "Made in Singapore" variety yielded perfect results when burned on my older PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 at 2.4X

3) The "Made in India" variety failed EVERY time ("Power Calibration Failure", "Power calibration Area Full", "Unable to read sector #s xxx") when burned on my older PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 at 2.4X

My speculation is that the "Made in India" variety uses a different write strategy that may not be properly addressable by older burners for which there are no longer new firmware updates created by the OEM...

unskinnyboy
26th March 2008, 16:35
I'm a little perplexed that they chose to keep the same MID for the MII ones. Since they are made by Moser Baer India, shouldn't they be MBI* instead of MKM*? Currently, it gives the false impression that the MII disks are made by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media.

blutach
26th March 2008, 21:58
I expect the dye is the same so they gave it the same MID code. But they had plenty of room for variation in the numbers after MKM to distinguish.

Nevertheless, I am told the packaging says MIS or MII.

Regards

setarip_old
26th March 2008, 22:03
@unskinnyboy

Hi!Currently, it gives the false impression that the MII disks are made by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media.I had emailed a very similar question to Verbatim a couple of months ago.

I never received a response.

One could speculate that using the same MID is being done intentionally...

unskinnyboy
28th March 2008, 17:49
I expect the dye is the same so they gave it the same MID code. But they had plenty of room for variation in the numbers after MKM to distinguish.But MID is not just about the dye. Even if everything else remains the same (dye, disk type etc.), if the manufacturer changed, then the MID should change (ideally). But if they never bothered to resend the MII disks for re-approval, they could have used the same MID, from the previous Stamper who did the MIS disks.

Nevertheless, I am told the packaging says MIS or MII.This is true, but that's probably because it is required by the US law. They can't navigate around that, even if they want to.