Creating a DL burn compatible with standalone players?

[da_risk]

Here's what I did:

- Create an .iso file with DVDShrink (no .mds)
- Burn .iso with Nero on Memorex DVD+R DL (burner is an OEM one that comes with Dell. TSST Corp TS-H653A)

Works fine when read from the DVD drive, but won't work on my Philips DVP-642 ('no disc' error).

I've read quite a bit about this, but there's too many variables for me to know for sure.

Would it work if I re-rip with DVD Decrypter and burn with Imgburn?

Would it work if I used a different (Verbatim) DVD brand?

Would it work if I had a better DVD burner?

Would it work if I had another DVD player?

From what I gathered, ALL of these can be reasons for it not to work. I even read articles that discussed how some burners work with certain DVD players, and others with another bunch. If that's the case then I might as well not bother eh? :stupid:

Cheers guys!

[dialysis1]

Would it work if I used a different (Verbatim) DVD brand?
Verbatim (made in Singapore) is the only reliable disc to use.
ImgBurn is the only reliable software when it comes to burning.

[blutach]

And why use DVD Shrink if you are not shrinking. It does not creaste DL ISOs correctly anyway.

Regards

[Jeffster]

As blutach said, DVD Shrink is not double layer aware, so the chances of it creating an ISO with a valid layer break are slim (pure luck if it did).

Your drive supports automatic bitsetting for DL media (important) and is a capable burner too (OEM version of Samsung SH-S183A), so moving on...

Suggest you read this guide (http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=4643) (or this one (http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1777)) and try ImgBurn instead, preferably with a Verbatim disc to maximise your chance of success.

[da_risk]

Thanks for the info guys!

As blutach said, DVD Shrink is not double layer aware, so the chances of it creating an ISO with a valid layer break are slim (pure luck if it did).

Wel... it didn't. :D Why did I use DVDshrink? Mainly because I wasn't aware of such things as layer breaks and .mds files. Figured an .iso file is the same no matter how you make it. :stupid:

This time round I tried burning the .iso file with Imgburn (this time with a Fujifilm DL; mainly to try and pinpoint what the issue was, and see if changing the program and media would remedy the problem. If not, it would've meant it was either a bad rip or a hardware issue) and got some very informative errors, thanks to Imgburn:

Before burning:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9196/78031940yp0.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9196/78031940yp0.jpg)


After burning (during verification):

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3882/57541364mn3.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3882/57541364mn3.jpg)


This is good news, as it seems to indicate the rip was flawed and not due to any hardware incompatibilities. Means I can probably still make a standalone compatible DL burn! :)


Suggest you read this guide (http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=4643) (or this one (http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1777))

Thanks for the guides! I actually tried creating a DVD-Video burn using the Vobs through Nero, but got some error. Can't recall exactly what it was, but I think it had something to do with it being larger than 4.5Gb. That's why I opted for the .iso. :)


In conclusion... I'll try again now. This time PROPERLY. :thanks:

[blutach]

Far from being able to conclude the rip was flawed, it is more likely the ISO was. You should have stopped.

The 2nd pic indicates a bad burn - nothing else (it couldn't verify near the edge of the poor media you have). Use Verbatim 2.4x Made in Singapore MKM-001 disks.

Regards

[da_risk]

Poor media indeed. And to think I spent $16 for three discs! I wanted to use them up and still have one more left. No worries mate, I'll buy the Verbatim. All in due time. :)

Right now I'm coming across another issue. One of the vobs is a little over 5Gb in size and Imgburn can't burn it because of the limits of the ISO9660 system. I could burn it using just UDF, but I'm afraid that system won't be compatible with standalone players. Should I re-rip the DVD but this time have it split the vobs in 1Gb (or larger) files?

Thanks!

EDIT: Just read somewhere that UDF IS compatible with most standalone players, but mostly the 1.02 mode.

[Inventive Software]

You're far better off ripping the DVD in ISO mode and then burning said ISO file.

[blutach]

How did you get a 5Gb VOB? They are supposed to be less than 1Gb.

Regards

[Inventive Software]

DVD Decrypter has an option to not split VOBs. The most likely thing is the VOBs got combined on ripping, and the total VOB size is 5GB.

[da_risk]

That's exactly what I did. I disabled that function in DVD Decrypter when I was backing up some videos to avi.

[blutach]

Time to re-enable it.

Regards