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Zaphod_B
12th March 2008, 17:19
Hi all, I'm new to the forum, although I've been using the resources on Doom9 for a while. Although I'm not a total newbie to DVD ripping and backups, I am fairly new to DVD-RB and reducing DVD-9 to DVD-5, which is what I use it for.

I am currently using DVD-Rebuilder Pro, v1.27.2, to rebuild DVDs from ISOs mounted in Daemon Tools, having been ripped in DVD-Decrypter.

After a few successful attempts at backing up DVDs, I have recently started having a major problem on a few occasions... during either the Encode or Rebuild processes, my PC crashed. Or rather, it froze up... completely, no movement onscreen, doing absolutely nothing and leaving me unable to do anything, even move the mouse cursor or Ctrl-Alt-Del. The only thing I can do is to switch off and restart.

Now I don't know if DVD-RB is causing this problem (so far it has only happened while using DVD-RB, and I use the PC for plenty of other things)... it might be a hardware issue or something else, I'm embarassed to say I don't know. If anyone has an idea in that regard, I'd be very grateful to hear it. But anyway, the crashes themselves are not the only reason I'm here.

What concerns me is this: Having waited sometimes up to three hours for encoding/rebuilding, that time could be completely wasted. The last time, it crashed during the Rebuilding process... I would have thought that since Encoding was successful, I would simply be able to restart the Rebuilding process rather than have to start right from scratch. I checked DVD-RB's Help file, and it says it is possible to continue after a crash...
"In order to resume, you must have "one click mode" disabled or it will start from the beginning.
Press encode and DVD-RB will ask if you want to resume the project."
... well I do have one-click-mode disabled, but when I start up DVD-RB again it does not give me the option of pressing Encode. Those buttons are greyed out, because the Current Source Path is now empty (Daemon Tools now having unmounted the DVD on restart)... so I mounted it in Daemon again, opened up DVD-RB, and it recognised the DVD but didn't give me the option of continuing with Rebuild, but simply acted as if it was starting with a new DVD.

At this point I thought I could still recover, as I had tried "Save Project" (which I had assumed was for this kind of situation) after Encoding had completed. However I now noticed it had not saved as a .RBD file... but as a .RBT file. I have no idea why it did this, since I didn't add the file extension when saving, DVD-RB did. I tried opening it anyway... this didn't help me with my problem, but did create a new one... DVD-RB told me that "skins have been updated", and now every box in DVD-RB Pro is empty (work path, application paths etc), and my various settings have been undone... it looks like I will have to either remember every setting and where every file and folder is, or reinstall (probably quicker).

So now I am left with several questions. I don't expect that they'll all be answered, but if you can help with any then I'd be really grateful.
1) Why is my PC crashing when running DVD-RB? (I don't think it's the encoder since sometimes it crashes in Encode and sometimes in Rebuild)
2) After crashing, why can't DVD-RB recognise that I was in the middle of Rebuild last time, and give me the option of continuing/restarting Rebuild rather than the whole 3-step process? Is there a way to do this?
3) Why did it save my project as .RBT instead of .RBD?
4) Now that opening the .RBT file has erased all the settings and paths I was using, is there any easy way to restore them?

Sorry for rambling, but I seem to have so many problems here that I didn't know where to start. Any advice or thoughts at all would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance :)

setarip_old
12th March 2008, 18:21
Hi!Having waited sometimes up to three hours for encoding/rebuildingSounds like your system may be overheating.

Try cleaning out all dust bunnies and "gook" that may be present inside your system - and be sure to clean all fans...

gav1577
12th March 2008, 18:44
check your cpu temprature here http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
also if you have overclocked your pc you may want to check your pc is stable here http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm also if you have a core2 duo or quad you might find this link helpful http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/221745-11-core-quad-temperature-guide

blutach
12th March 2008, 22:22
If you crash during rebuild, you need only press Rebuild again (using 3 click).

Regards

gav1577
13th March 2008, 00:33
Due to further thinking i should have told you to run a check disk
for errors assuming your using windows xp/vista. check all dives and partitions for file system errors and bad sectors. sounds like you are hitting a bad section of your disk when rebuild is writing the data to a specific area of your hdd it has happened to many times always run chkdsk after a crash it will almost always remove /repair errors :)

Zaphod_B
20th March 2008, 19:02
Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll run a Chkdsk and check the temperature too; I didn't think it would be a basic hardware issue since the PC is pretty new and has been left on for hours doing other things (mainly gaming ;) ) without any problems... as for overheating, everything inside still looks dust-free and AFAIK no overclocking was done by the guys who assembled the PC for me... but I'll definitely look into the possibilities of HDD errors or overheating.

As for recovering from crashes by just pressing "Rebuild"... I can see how it should work, but for me it doesn't, because when I opened DVD-RB it could find no source (since the ISO was un-mounted in Daemon on restart) and didn't recognise that it had been in the middle of a project... so I only had the option of starting all over again.

Once I've got DVD-RB working again by reminding it where all the paths are, I will try rebuilding another DVD tonight and let you know how it goes. Thanks again for all the advice.

zacoz
22nd March 2008, 12:29
@Zaphod_B

Why not rip in file mode, that would then avoid the whole "disc not mounted" issue. Doesn't address your root cause, but might at least avoid the flow on effect on DVDRB not recovering.

James35
22nd March 2008, 13:55
Why do people mount an ISO, When you can have it extracted to a folder?
I know I am not offering help, but I have always wanted to know why people do this..

jdobbs
22nd March 2008, 17:18
Everybody has different reasons. I do it so I can keep them on my hard drive for a while and use them when I feel like it. This way I just have one directory with a bunch of ISO files in it rather than a lot of directories/subdirectories. It saves time when I'm testing things.

It's really six of one and half-dozen of the other, though.