analysis pass using wrong mode

[Fishman0919]

I am trying to backup WE_OWN_THE_NIGHT with CCE Basic and noticed the analysis pass with HC is encoding using 15-2 GOP and using interlaced... so I chk'ed the HC01.INI and HC.INI and saw that it is encoder using interlaced...

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:29
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V01.D2V")
SelectRangeEvery(1500,15)
ConvertToYV12()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

---------------------------

*PROFILE NORMAL
*INFILE C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V01_Q_ANALYSIS.avs
*OUTFILE C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V01_Q_ANALYSIS.m2v
*BITRATE 0
*MAXBITRATE 6414
*WAIT 0
*BIAS 20
*DC_PREC 9
*CQ_MAXBITRATE 4.5
*CQ_PFACTOR 1.08
*CQ_BFACTOR 1.15
*LUMGAIN 0
*ASPECT 16:9
*GOP 15 2
*INTERLACED


Then when the redis phase started, it encodes using progresive.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V01.D2V",idct=6)
trim(0,7924).SelectRangeEvery(48,12)
ConvertToYV12()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

-----------------------

*PROFILE FAST
*INFILE C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V010000_REDIST.avs
*OUTFILE C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V010000_REDIST.m2v
*BITRATE 0
*MAXBITRATE 8361
*WAIT 0
*BIAS 20
*DC_PREC 9
*CQ_MAXBITRATE 3.4
*CQ_PFACTOR 1.08
*CQ_BFACTOR 1.15
*LUMGAIN 0
*ASPECT 16:9
*NOSCD
*GOP 12 2
*NOVBV
*PROGRESSIVE


all the v01's look like this one.
I couldn't find one interlaced .AVS file.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V01.D2V",idct=6)
trim(0,7924)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

my rebuilder.ini...

[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=2
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
CCEAQM=1
QuEncTargetSectors=2245000
REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q=1
Redist_Percent=25
EncoderMinimized=0
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
AudioDub=1
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=6
GOP=0
DCPrec=2
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=WE_OWN_THE_NIGHT
DVD_Name=WE_OWN_THE_NIGHT.ISO
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=00000000
Convert_16_9=00000000
DisableInterlace=00000000
ConvertToYUY2=1
Skin=Rockas Original
HighMatrix=Same as Main Feature
MedHighMatrix=Same as Main Feature
MedMatrix=Same as Main Feature
Redistribute=1
HC_FOR_REDIST=1
RemoveDC=1
Encode_Menus=1
Completed=2
ClineQuality=2
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ReJig\ReJig.exe
HC=C:\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\HC Encoder\HCbatch.EXE
FFMPEG=C:\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\FFMpeg\ffmpeg.exe
CMDLINE=C:\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\CMDLINE\mencoder.bat
ProCoder=C:\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\EclPro\EclPro.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
NICAUDIO=C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\nicaudio.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=C:\DVD-RB Temp\
Output=D:\Done DVD's\
Source=C:\FULLDISC\WE_OWN_THE_NIGHT\VIDEO_TS\
[Audio]
Selected=100
Remapping=
[Subpictures]
Selected=100
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=5
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2


anyone else notice this?

[jdobbs]

Something in the VTS is interlaced. But the analysis phase is only trying to get a Q factor that is close so it can use it in the distribution -- it really isn't critical.

[jdobbs]

I just looked at the code to be sure. When doing the Q determination, DVD-RB uses the largest segment (in terms of frame count) in the VTS for determining the way to encode it as a whole (and find the Q). It has to do this because it is possible to have some segments that are interlaced and some that are not -- but you have to get a Q for the entire VTS.

It looks like the largest segment might be VOBID/CELLID 1/29.

[Fishman0919]

yes, sorry....

the only .avs file I didn't look at... the end credits... because on my monitor in falls at the top of the next column... is interleaced.

again sorry.

[jdobbs]

Interesting. So the end credits were the longest segment? Hmmm. I may have to add something in to prevent that from happening.

[Fishman0919]

Well, the last segment in this movie is about 1-2 mins of the very end of the movies and the ending credits.


filter_val=6
non_linear=1
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1
qmat_idx=0

[file]
name=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=13597
encode_first=0
encode_last=13597

[item]
title=V02000000001001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V02000000001001.vaf
aud_file=C:\DVD-RB Temp\D2VAVS\V02000000001001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480

[jdobbs]

13597 frames is over 15 minutes.

[Fishman0919]

It's about 9 1/2

[jdobbs]

Sorry about that. I must have missed a keystroke in my calculator. :) If it is NTSC then 13597 frames = 453.68 seconds (f / 29.97) = 7.56 minutes (s / 60)

[Fishman0919]

I did it based on 23.976... not 29.97 because the .d2v files are 23.976 (film)... the pulldown is not applied to later in the rebuild phase. The .ecl file frame count is based from the d2v file which is 23.976. So the time should be 9.451812 or about 9:27

[jdobbs]

Ok, no sense getting into a argument over it. But, there's no pulldown on an NTSC interlaced source. 23.976 is just used as a common denominator. The playback time would be as I called it (at least what I called it the second time).

[Fishman0919]

true... sorry. You are right. :)


odd :confused:
when playing the movie back it shows 1:48:26 / 1:57:24

[jdobbs]

Well, sometimes. As far as this discussion goes I'm 50/50... ;)