I can't get my use avisynth to it's potential!

[juz4eugene]

I'm new to encoding with avisynth filters. Apparently, I tried to encode "Hatenkou Yuugi" an anime.
This were the filters I added:
Lanczos4Resize(704,400,3,0,-4,0)
LimitedSharpenFaster()
deen("a2d",2,4,10,4,10)
deblock(quant=30)

I was hoping to remove some mircoblocking, and banding in the anime. However, it got worst. I encoded it as xvid, 875bitrate, but I'm not able to achieve the quality. I'm totally lost. I've used other filters too..however, it appeared the same.

This is the original image:
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=originaloe5.png

The one I've encoded with the filters:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5616/filteredkx9.png

This is by Shinsen-sub, I love their quality.
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shslm5.png
Note: Shinsen is using xvid, 807bitrate

Can anyone help me to get a quality similar to shinsen-sub, or way better than my encoded material? I REALLY REALLY appreciate all the response and help! Thank you!

[neuron2]

Use DGMPGDec to source the material, and then use the built-in deblocker of MPEG2Source().

[juz4eugene]

should I use the deblocker on the original encode or the encoded one? Thanks for the quick reply!
I can't seem to use DGMPGDec on the avi video file. Sorry if I didn't provide enough information.

[DigitalDeviant]

This is by Shinsen-sub, I love their quality.

Obvious rule#6, and their quality is arguable.

[juz4eugene]

I downloaded DGMPGDec package and used DGDecode.dll.
BlindPP(quant=2, cpu=6, ipp=false, moderate_h=20, moderate_v=40)
Apparently, my video doesn't get better at the same bitrate.

[Leak]

Apparently, my video doesn't get better at the same bitrate.
Buy the DVD, lock the thread and throw away the original poster... not neccessarily in that order. :mad:

[foxyshadis]

I don't think that's rule 6, he's asking how to make his encode of a DVD look like someone else's. Sketchy, but obviously he has the source in this case.

If you're going to stick with xvid, you'll probably have to work with matrices and debanding on playback to get the best results at that bitrate. Also, better denoisers than deen, like mvdegrain, TemporalDegrain, or mc_spuds. And ALWAYS deblock before anything else, use the deblock parameter of mpeg2source preferably.

[Sagekilla]

Personally, it seems like the source actually got worse when you processed it with LSF, deen, and deblocking. And as Foxy said, use deblock first! Sharpening will accentuate block edges and noise, and it might make the blocking and noise harder to remove. Remember, you should always, always do sharpening last!

Hope that helps :)

[DigitalDeviant]

I don't think that's rule 6, he's asking how to make his encode of a DVD look like someone else's. Sketchy, but obviously he has the source in this case.

Maybe if what he was encoding was even out on DVD :p He's probably failing because he downloaded a worse quality raw in the first place.

[juz4eugene]

The raw is fine, it's similar to many other raws. foxyshadis and Sagekilla, thanks for the advice!

[legionator2]

Hmm, I think the problem is this :

deen("a2d",2,4,10,4,10)
deblock(quant=30)
Your settings are way too high. The 2D mode of Deen is very strong, and it blurs a lot. The quant parameter of Deblock is too much too. And like the others said, NEVER SHARPENING BEFORE SMOOTHING. Btw, which method did you choose when encoding? 1 pass quantizer, 1 pass bitrate, or 2 passes? If it's 1 pass bitrate, then the quality should be horrible at that bitrate.

[juz4eugene]

I did a 2 pass, I have lowered the deblock and the deen, it looks good. However, the banding is still quite bad.

[neuron2]

@juz4eugene

Please state where you obtained the source anime.

[juz4eugene]

I obtain it from aniserv

[neuron2]

That *is* a rule 6 violation.