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XolocoTuxmaster
3rd February 2008, 21:24
Let's clarify something

What's a BD-5/BD-9?

It's a DVD with Blu-ray Video content and structure

Oh...an AVCHD!

No, AVCHD has its own specs, mainly stated by:
-Video codec: AVC
-Audio codec: Dolby Digital, PCM 1.5 Mbps
-More than one audio track: No
-Subtitles: No
-Maximum video bitrate: 25000 kbps
-Maximum VBR buffer size: 9000 kbps

While Blu-ray's (and therefore BD-5's/BD-9's) are:
-Video codec: AVC, VC-1, MPEG-2
-More than one audio track: Yes
-Subtitles: Yes
-Audio codec: Dolby Digital, DTS 1,5 Mbps, PCM 27 Mbps, Dolby Digital + 1,7Mbps, DTS-HD 6 Mbps, TrueHD 18 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 24,5 Mbps
-Maximum video bitrate: 40000 kbps
-Maximum VBR buffer size: 30000 kbps

Using this method you will get a 100% standard Blu-ray content, but bruning that content on a DVD (BD-5) or double layer DVD (BD-9) is not standard at all. Nevertheless, several BD players play them some of them considering them as an AVCHD (PS3)...but then plays as a normal BD, so all codecs and subtitles are supported



Needed files and programs

*Sonic.Scenarist.BDA.v4.20 (http://www.sonic.com/resellers/)
*Nero's index.bdmv and Movieobject.bdmv (http://rs168.rapidshare.com/files/47821885/BDMV.rar)(For PS3 BD-9/5 compatibiliy)
*SubtitleWorkshop 4 (http://www.urusoft.net/download.php?id=sw4&mirror=1) and SubtitleWorkshop 2.51 (http://www.urusoft.net/download.php?id=sw&mirror=1) to include .srt subtitles
*Supread (http://pel.hu/down/SUPread.exe) to include Blu-ray (.sup) subtitles
*nal_hrd patched (http://lists.videolan.org/attachs/20070107/x264_hrd.patch) x264
--For Windows get last megui's x264 build (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=156112&package_id=174059), it's already patched
--For Linux, open a Terminal Konsole and:
yasm --version

If you have 0.6 or above skip this first quote, if not, follow bothwget http://www.tortall.net/projects/yasm/releases/yasm-0.6.2.tar.gz .
tar xvfz yasm-0.6.2.tar.gz
cd yasm-0.6.2
./configure
make
make installsvn co svn://svn.videolan.org/x264/trunk x264
cd x264
wget http://lists.videolan.org/attachs/20070107/x264_hrd.patch
patch -p0 < x264_hrd.patch
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug --enable-pthread
make
make install



Preparing the video

With the nal_hrd patched x264 version, we use our favourite line/profile to encode the video, not forgetting these parameters in the final line:

--keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 38000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --nal-hrd --mvrange 511 --level 4.1 --bframe 3 --ref 3 --aud --sar 1:1

And forgetting:

--b-pyramid

Resolution must be standard and fps 24p, 50i or 60i

By the way, with 50i and 60i you can chage --keyint to 25 (PAL) and 30 (NTSC), not sure about 50 and 60 in a true interlaced encoding...



Preparing the subtitles

The program we'll use doesn't recognise neither .srt nor .sup so you have to convert them.

SRT:
1. Load srt file into Subtitle Workshop v2.51. Set Input FPS to 23.976, and Output FPS tp 24fps. Save new .srt file.
2. Load new .srt file by SubtitleWorkshop v4 (version 4 support bdn file export)
3. Clicks file->export customize image subtitle
4. Select 8bit PNG, and select movie resolution and fps.
5. Change font colour to anything other than white (lighter colours like yellow, green or blue are recommended).
6. Export

SUP:
1. Use Supread's option 'Save bitmaps' to get the .png and .scn-sst files
2. Use the .scn-sst to create the .bdn (Sorry, I don't know the details)

Rectal Propalse has released a program which convert HD DVD's sup to bdn (png+xml) fully compatible with scenarist. He's call it hdsup2bdn (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1102062#post1102062)

For BD's sup to bdn...maybe we could use Supread to export HD DVD's sup and then hdsup2bdn???

Creating the BD

You need at least Sonic.Scenarist.BDA.v4.20

1. Load up MUI Generator
2. Load the Audio/s in to the program and select create files.
3. Do the same for the video
4. Start up Sonic HDMV
5. Create a New Project.
6. Use the same directory for output path and Encode path
7. Under the Data Tree Tab, right click on data a go NEW-Actual Asset and bring in the to files that where created with MUI Generator.
*7.1. Right click on data again and choose to import bdn file if you want to include subtitles.
8. Go to Stream tree tab
*9.1. Drag the video files onto stream,( this will create a playlist and a clip.)
*9.2. Drag the audio files onto the clip (be careful with the track order)
*9.3. Drag the subtitles files onto the clip
*9.4. Open up the "Tool" drop down menu up the top of the window. Press "Subtitle Arranger" and then "OK". Note the start time of the first subtitle.
*9.5. In the "Clip Editor" tab, right click on the subtitle (PG) and press "Time info...". Then adjust the video offset to the start time of the first subtitle.
10. Click on the Scenario editor tab
11. Select First Playback then right click on it and select Set movie object.
12. Do the Same for top menu.
13. Now drag the playlist onto both MO#1 this will create a nice tree structure.
*14. Now save your project and quit Scenarist. Go back to Windows Explorer and navigate into your Project folder and open the Project.xml file in Notepad. Go all the way to the bottom and find a setting called:

<CopyPermissionIndicator>3</CopyPermissionIndicator>

Change the 3 to a 0 (zero). This will prevent the disc from being flagged as encrypted. This is very important. If you do not perform this step your disc will NOT work.

*15. Load up Mux remote server.
*16. Open Scenarist modified project and click on the mux button in Sonic HDMV.
*17. Select not create the disc image file.
*18. Start the mux.
*19. Remove AACS and CERTIFICATE Folders



That's all, now you have 100% standard BD content, for burning:

*On a Blu-ray:
--Just BDMV folder on it

*On a DVD:
--PS3: Change index.bdmv and Movieobject.bdmv (in \BDMV and \BDMV\BACKUP\) for the Nero ones and burn BDMV folder on a DVD with UDF 2.5 format.
--No AVCHD compatible BD players: Just burn BDMV folder on it?

You can also:
-Open the files with powerdvd's option “play Blu-ray on HDD”
-Bring it to PS3 thru web server like Red Kawa or Apache (no subtitles neither multiaudio, just video+1st audio)



Can I use this method to MKV->PS3Ready or should I always rencode?

Rencoding is the only way to ensure 100% compatibility, but if you want, you can just try editing the header in case the video is already compilant but not properly advised.

Get lasted h264info (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=138139&package_id=225029&release_id=493468) (at the moment I'm writing this is 0018) and fill with write PPS on:

kbps bitrate: 38000
num_ref_frames: 3 (maybe 4 works too, haven't tried)
Output Aspect Ratio: 1:1
Level: 4.1
WxH: 1920x1080, 1280x720...whatever it is

Remember that just works when the video is properly encoded...if not...you can try but it most likely won't...that's why I don't like using it

If it doesn't work DON'T TRY VOB/MP4/ETC TRANSFERS SINCE THEY'LL WON'T WORK TOO, only rencoding is the solution unless it's a resolution problem



Mini-todo list

*Confirm no PS3 players compatibility
*Confirm theory: If you don't change .bdmv files on the Backup folder, BD players will look there after refusing the PS3's ones and play OK, so it's ALWAYS recomended to do that for BD-9/5, to ensure both PS3 and BD players compatibility

EDIT: If you are new in encoding...get these blu-ray profiles for megui from one of this links

http://rs91.rapidshare.com/files/90096077/megui_blu-ray_profiles.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/?f1zgyj5mn3n
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49259103428493361575

yotsu
4th February 2008, 23:47
3. do the same for the video

My video has .264 extension, how could i do to load it into MUI Generator ?

XolocoTuxmaster
5th February 2008, 01:02
-Rename to .avc and select ".avc" when browsing
-Select "all files" when browsing and in the main window select MPEG-4 AVC

Whichever you prefer

jamos
5th February 2008, 01:11
Can you specify the command line that you extract video from a mkv using x264?

the mkvextract h264 file gives me a error in hdmv when i try to import it so i am guessing you need to use x264 to create the raw video?

lexor
5th February 2008, 03:16
How big can h264 stream be to fit on a DVD5 or DVD9? Is there a reliable overhead calculator for BD structure or do we just guess at a bitrate and keep re-encoding until we get the right total size?

Also is there absolutely no way of getting subs? Under any supported format?

yotsu
5th February 2008, 08:46
-Rename to .avc and select ".avc" when browsing
-Select "all files" when browsing and in the main window select MPEG-4 AVC

Whichever you prefer

I've got the "ERROR" pop up when i push the "create files" button.

My video works if i remux it into an .mp4 or .mkv container, so why i get that d*** warning. weird :confused:

B4tm4n
5th February 2008, 11:09
How big can h264 stream be to fit on a DVD5 or DVD9? Is there a reliable overhead calculator for BD structure or do we just guess at a bitrate and keep re-encoding until we get the right total size?

Also is there absolutely no way of getting subs? Under any supported format?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1094903#post1094903

XolocoTuxmaster
5th February 2008, 13:38
Can you specify the command line that you extract video from a mkv using x264?

the mkvextract h264 file gives me a error in hdmv when i try to import it so i am guessing you need to use x264 to create the raw video?

Rencoding with x264 is the only way that never fails. For MKV-> BD-9...you have to be in luck or even try to "lie" Scenarist, I'll give the details when I'm sure they are right.

How big can h264 stream be to fit on a DVD5 or DVD9? Is there a reliable overhead calculator for BD structure or do we just guess at a bitrate and keep re-encoding until we get the right total size?

Also is there absolutely no way of getting subs? Under any supported format?

In my tests... streams had to be 95% of the final m2ts file size

For subtitles...you mean getting from a BD i.e. or putting them into the disc? If first one, use xport 0.96+. If second one...it's a bit difficult and I haven't done enough tests yet, but it's posible to include them (take a look at Scenarist manual or put subtitles blu-ray scenarist at google, or even here at doom9 searcher.

I've got the "ERROR" pop up when i push the "create files" button.

My video works if i remux it into an .mp4 or .mkv container, so why i get that d*** warning. weird :confused:

They work in mp4 at PS3? If so, maybe you have to "lie" too.

lexor
5th February 2008, 15:28
PD: Remember that this subtitles can't be played at PS3


Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that my question was about PS3. So I guess no subs for me :(

XolocoTuxmaster
5th February 2008, 15:39
Multitrack and subtitles support found

lexor
5th February 2008, 16:36
Great news on subs!

I have a question though: what is the reason for the 17 steps, if in the end you just need to load the streams in TSRemux and it will make the Blu-ray structure for you? Why not just use tsMuxeR and make a TS file with all the streams you want and feed it to TSRemux?

XolocoTuxmaster
5th February 2008, 16:39
Scenarist warns you if files are not compilant, haven't tried tsmuxer

lexor
5th February 2008, 16:47
Scenarist warns you if files are not compilant, haven't tried tsmuxer

Well, tsmuxer won't warn you, but if I had faith in my streams I don't need the expensive program, right? It doesn't do any mandatory fiddling with streams themselves?

trojanfoe
5th February 2008, 16:48
I've got the "ERROR" pop up when i push the "create files" button.

My video works if i remux it into an .mp4 or .mkv container, so why i get that d*** warning. weird :confused:

Me too from the original MKV, but going through the usual "h264info conversion phase" (set level to 4.1 and "Write PPS every picture"), MUI Generator seems to like it. It probably depends on the original encode as well I guess.

However Scenarist HDMV won't open the resulting .VES files so a re-encode is required. Where can i get a "nal_hrd patched version of x264" from?

EDIT: found a patched version. What's the complete x264 command line please?

XolocoTuxmaster
5th February 2008, 17:48
Well, tsmuxer won't warn you, but if I had faith in my streams I don't need the expensive program, right? It doesn't do any mandatory fiddling with streams themselves?

It does...what I don't know is if tsmuxer does too, that's why I recommend Scenarist


EDIT: found a patched version. What's the complete x264 command line please?

whichever you want, just have in mind the parameters I mentioned. You can also use megui blu-ray profiles

Example: good quality (some people call it "almost lossless") encoding

x264 --crf 18 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 38000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --nal-hrd --mvrange 511 --level 4.1 --bframe 3 --ref 3 --aud --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 -o output.264 input

or even simpler:

x264 --crf 18 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 38000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --nal-hrd --mvrange 511 --level 4.1 --aud --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 -o output.264 input

trojanfoe
5th February 2008, 18:28
Thanks Xoloco, that's chugging away now. I used the first command line, but had to put "1280x720" after the input file in order to make x264 happy.

Nasgul
5th February 2008, 20:45
Hi,


Nevertheless, several BD players play them


Have you tried this - if yes, on which players? I tried this method (it was mentioned on AVS some weeks ago) on several standalone players, and none of them played the discs.
Tried on: Sony BDP-S1, Panasonic BD10+BD30, Pioneer LX70A.

Only the PS3 plays them as AVCHD (this is correct, since TSRemux outputs an AVCHD structure - so it´s only a BD5/9 until you run it through Tsremux).

If you burn the scenarist output to DVD5/9, the resulting "real" BD5/9 will play in most standalone players (all above mentioned except the BD30), but not in the PS3.

I really love these bluray "standards"... :mad:


Has anyone found a possibility yet to create a disc that plays in BOTH standalone players AND the PS3?

Regards,
Nas

tymoxa
5th February 2008, 21:26
Hi,

Has anyone found a possibility yet to create a disc that plays in BOTH standalone players AND the PS3?


Yes. Like i said earlier... read this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12369935&postcount=753) carefuly, especially this part:
Now save your project and quit Scenarist. Go back to Windows Explorer and navigate into your Project folder and open the Project.xml file in Notepad. Go all the way to the bottom and find a setting called:

<CopyPermissionIndicator>3</CopyPermissionIndicator>

Change the 3 to a 0 (zero). This will prevent the disc from being flagged as encrypted. This is very important. If you do not perform this step your disc will NOT work.
After this you may delete AACS, CERTIFICATE (after muxing) and burn BDMV to DVD with UDF2.50.
This method works for me... and for BD-P1400, BDP-S300/BDP-S1, BDP-LX70a and of course - PS3.

XolocoTuxmaster
6th February 2008, 00:03
I had that link at bookmarks and last time I read it he said you have to turn the encryption off, but didn't say how. He must have edited...thanks for the warning ;)

Have just tried it and yeah, encryption's out, but 1.80^ PS3s just read it if you change *.bdmv for the Nero ones. Can anyone confirm it plays too on stand alone players?

Nasgul
6th February 2008, 20:16
Thanks a lot, I will give that a try...

rhayman
7th February 2008, 00:35
Thankyou for the guide, could you upload your megui blu-ray profiles on rapidshare as it is still saying pending approval

jamos
7th February 2008, 01:13
Xolo can you somehow host those bluray profiles somewhere that I can download them? Your attachments are still pending approval. I used the HD fast profile seems to work good with bluray.

XolocoTuxmaster
8th February 2008, 11:02
http://rs91.rapidshare.com/files/90096077/megui_blu-ray_profiles.zip

How long should one usually wait to see them aproved?

Sharktooth
8th February 2008, 13:48
depends on the moderators, maybe they didnt read this thread or just forgot to approve it.

jamos
8th February 2008, 15:04
http://rs91.rapidshare.com/files/90096077/megui_blu-ray_profiles.zip

How long should one usually wait to see them aproved?

Thanks Xolo ill check them out!:thanks:

toftrem
8th February 2008, 21:29
Hello

thank's to this tutorial but i've error message step 3

mui generator with video encoded h264 with megui and your bluray profile. this is the message:
"Error: invalid_vui_parameters_present_flag_value=0"

Where mistake?

thanks

XolocoTuxmaster
8th February 2008, 22:24
Did you remove --sar 1:1?

PD: Did you do something with the file before using MUI, like h264info or something like that?

toftrem
8th February 2008, 22:39
I use your bluray profile for megui

XolocoTuxmaster
8th February 2008, 22:41
unmodifed?

Did you do something with the file before using MUI, like h264info or something like that?

Do you have last megui?

That makes no sense to me...I created the profile modifying HD DVD profile, which has vui_parameters_present_flag_value=1

Do this happen to anyone else?

toftrem
8th February 2008, 22:46
I modify nothing

i extract video vc-1 and audio DD LPCM from m2ts bluray rip with tsremux 019 and use megui with your blurayprofil without modification....

XolocoTuxmaster
8th February 2008, 22:50
Damm...you are posting at the same time I'm editing

Do you have last megui?

toftrem
8th February 2008, 22:54
yes 0.2.6.1041 and update ok

?!!!.... problem with extract video and audio with tsremux019 ?

XolocoTuxmaster
8th February 2008, 23:01
Using tsremux to extract is never a good idea...better use xport

But vui parameters present flag value is set by x264, and it normally turns to 1 if you use any vui parameter (like --sar). And in addition...I used the HD DVD profile to create this and HD DVD profile is supossed to turn vui value to 1

As I said...this makes no sense to me, have asked "megui profiles expert" Sharktooth
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1097939#post1097939

toftrem
8th February 2008, 23:08
ok I wait

Why the converted video vc-1 with x264 is not directly playable on ps3 for test (ps3 say not compatible)?

toftrem
9th February 2008, 12:53
ok I wait

Why the converted video vc-1 with x264 is not directly playable on ps3 for test (ps3 say not compatible)?

I read ok this vc-1 video converted with megui and your bluray_profile only if I stream or copy with tversity (mp4).
Now i want to mux this h264 video file with ac3 6ch dolby digital original audio..... and it not works... I must convert ac3 6ch in aac 6 ch?

thanks

jamos
10th February 2008, 00:05
unmodifed?

Did you do something with the file before using MUI, like h264info or something like that?

Do you have last megui?

That makes no sense to me...I created the profile modifying HD DVD profile, which has vui_parameters_present_flag_value=1

Do this happen to anyone else?

I am getting stuttering while using your profiles when i build the bd structure using tsremux. I do not get this using the HD ones not sure why but am thinking it is because your vbv buffer is way too high.

one thing i did notice is that your profile takes some 2 hours longer than the hd profile, what is the difference are you using really higher bitrates? To fit on a dvd-9 my avg bitrate is around 7100 so I am wondering if it is overkill using your profile over the dvd-hd one for a 720p video.

toftrem
11th February 2008, 07:39
I have many problem with vc-1 encoded to h264 when I choose file format to RAWAVC (for using tsmuxer after). the video .264 obtained is white flashed many times !.... Do you know why?

Thanks

XolocoTuxmaster
11th February 2008, 23:35
I am getting stuttering while using your profiles when i build the bd structure using tsremux. I do not get this using the HD ones not sure why but am thinking it is because your vbv buffer is way too high.

one thing i did notice is that your profile takes some 2 hours longer than the hd profile, what is the difference are you using really higher bitrates? To fit on a dvd-9 my avg bitrate is around 7100 so I am wondering if it is overkill using your profile over the dvd-hd one for a 720p video.

It's not overkill at all, every BD player plays them well, but yeah if you want you can set --vbv-maxrate and --vbv-bufsize a lower value.

I have many problem with vc-1 encoded to h264 when I choose file format to RAWAVC (for using tsmuxer after). the video .264 obtained is white flashed many times !.... Do you know why?

Thanks

No I don't, sorry, maybe a wrong .avs (don't tell me since I don't use them).

Be patient wait for Sharktooth overview

XolocoTuxmaster
12th February 2008, 21:07
Guide updated

*Added subtitles steps (thanks jacobshek)
*Added new 100% players compatibility theory (please try and comment)
*Added MKV conversion trick

PleXuS
13th February 2008, 23:13
Guide updated

*Added subtitles steps (thanks jacobshek)
*Added new 100% players compatibility theory (please try and comment)
*Added MKV conversion trick

your MKV conversion trick won't work for Bluray BDMV ;)
most mkv got borders ripped. your resolution must be 1280x720 or 1920x1080 else you get sound & black screen!

so you must re encode to add the borders and then it works fine on powerdvd and bluray PS3!

i did also change the resolution with h264info 0.18 but i did allways get black or green screen.. until i did resize it with avisynth script.

but anyway nice work! :thanks:

maybe you can make and easy automatic made disc menu guide and howto import into scenarist? :)

is there a easy way todo? Adobe encore? or other tools?

edit: i also found out that when i try to convert srt to scenarist sub format.. it only generates 1 png pic with xml file.
and seems to repeat allways that 1 subtitle image in the movie!? weard..?..

am i doing something wrong? or is it becoz Subtitle Workshop4 is behaving weard on vista?


best regards,
PleXuS

jamos
13th February 2008, 23:39
xolo just burning the BDMV directory to disk did not work for ps3. It sees it as a data disk. is there something I need to do to the output from scenarist to make it work before i burn it? I am using UDF 2.5.

edit: ok I missed the copy nero files step at the end. All is good, works well.

XolocoTuxmaster
14th February 2008, 00:53
your MKV conversion trick won't work for Bluray BDMV ;)
most mkv got borders ripped. your resolution must be 1280x720 or 1920x1080 else you get sound & black screen!

so you must re encode to add the borders and then it works fine on powerdvd and bluray PS3!

i did also change the resolution with h264info 0.18 but i did allways get black or green screen.. until i did resize it with avisynth script.

but anyway nice work! :thanks:

That's why I call it "trick", because is not standard at all. As I said you have to be lucky having a properly encoded file. For example, resolution, but also maybe your video doesn't go upper 35000 kbps but encoder didn't use --vbv-maxrate so header is not filled...that's when filling it works

But about resolution..some people have said using h264info they don't get a correct video...but a video with two white/grey/other color bands that doesn't disturb them

As I said I dont like that trick, prefer recoding but some people do since they don't care about full or not full compatibility

maybe you can make and easy automatic made disc menu guide and howto import into scenarist? :)

is there a easy way todo? Adobe encore? or other tools?

Are you talking about menu for selecting language/subtitles? pop-ups menus and BD-java?

Haven't investigated that part...I'm not interested in advanced authoring yet...(tulkar does, has made some pop-up menu's blu-rays, ask him :rolleyes:)

edit: i also found out that when i try to convert srt to scenarist sub format.. it only generates 1 png pic with xml file.
and seems to repeat allways that 1 subtitle image in the movie!? weard..?..
Very..very weird. Hasn't happen to me...maybe you have to select something you didn't at subtitle workshop. Neither have vista, so I can't talk you about that.

Sorry

xolo just burning the BDMV directory to disk did not work for ps3. It sees it as a data disk. is there something I need to do to the output from scenarist to make it work before i burn it? I am using UDF 2.5.

edit: ok I missed the copy nero files step at the end. All is good, works well.

haha ok

jamos
14th February 2008, 01:39
Does using scenarist give us anything other than subtitles? I am using megui but using tsmuxer then tsremux to bd, works just as good except for no subtitles. Also subtitles need some work. Just exporting them from SubtitleWorkshop into scenarist leaves them out of sync and hard to read. you have to play with the colors and offset in scenarist to get them right I am guessing.

edit: played with offset but some are in sync and others are not it would be a major project to line up subtitles imported from a .srt file.

also I wonder if ps3 will play dolby-TD or DTS-hd on a AVCHD mastered with scenarist?

XolocoTuxmaster
14th February 2008, 12:21
Does using scenarist give us anything other than subtitles? I am using megui but using tsmuxer then tsremux to bd, works just as good except for no subtitles. Also subtitles need some work. Just exporting them from SubtitleWorkshop into scenarist leaves them out of sync and hard to read. you have to play with the colors and offset in scenarist to get them right I am guessing.

edit: played with offset but some are in sync and others are not it would be a major project to line up subtitles imported from a .srt file.
Haven't used subtitles very much, I have no big experience with them.

I saw you just asked jacobshek. He may help you


also I wonder if ps3 will play dolby-TD or DTS-hd on a AVCHD mastered with scenarist?

several BD players play them some of them considering them as an AVCHD (PS3)...but then plays as a normal BD, so all codecs and subtitles are supported

PleXuS
14th February 2008, 19:06
That's why I call it "trick", because is not standard at all. As I said you have to be lucky having a properly encoded file. For example, resolution, but also maybe your video doesn't go upper 35000 kbps but encoder didn't use --vbv-maxrate so header is not filled...that's when filling it works

But about resolution..some people have said using h264info they don't get a correct video...but a video with two white/grey/other color bands that doesn't disturb them

As I said I dont like that trick, prefer recoding but some people do since they don't care about full or not full compatibility


Are you talking about menu for selecting language/subtitles? pop-ups menus and BD-java?

Haven't investigated that part...I'm not interested in advanced authoring yet...(tulkar does, has made some pop-up menu's blu-rays, ask him :rolleyes:)

Very..very weird. Hasn't happen to me...maybe you have to select something you didn't at subtitle workshop. Neither have vista, so I can't talk you about that.

Sorry



haha ok

i just want to make a menu so i can make a bluray with 2 or 3 movies on it.. so that i can select what movie i want to see! nothing more :)

about subtitle workshop4 i used it as default.. nothing changed!
probably vista issue i gues :)

best regards,
PleXuS

jamos
14th February 2008, 22:32
Xolo i modded your profile to lower the avg. bitrate to allow a long movie at 720p to fit on a dvd-9. Also i set the deblocking strength to -3 and threshold to -2 to make it a bit sharper for 720p (was kinda blurry). I will post the modified bluray profiles and avs scripts to convert to standard hd resolutions when I post my how to convert mkv using megui. you can just link to that part for the mkv conversion part of your how to if you want.

PleXuS
15th February 2008, 00:20
XolocoTuxmaster: fixed the Subtitle Workshop4 issue!
Seems that it can't handle the char "." in the output PNG file names!!! when changing it.. it made from every subtitle rule a picture! wohooow :) :thanks:

best regards,
PleXuS

XolocoTuxmaster
15th February 2008, 00:59
Xolo i modded your profile to lower the avg. bitrate to allow a long movie at 720p to fit on a dvd-9. Also i set the deblocking strength to -3 and threshold to -2 to make it a bit sharper for 720p (was kinda blurry). I will post the modified bluray profiles and avs scripts to convert to standard hd resolutions when I post my how to convert mkv using megui. you can just link to that part for the mkv conversion part of your how to if you want.

Ok but please don't call it Blu-ray or BD-9/5 profile...
XolocoTuxmaster: fixed the Subtitle Workshop4 issue!
Seems that it can't handle the char "." in the output PNG file names!!! when changing it.. it made from every subtitle rule a picture! wohooow :) :thanks:

best regards,
PleXuS

Haha good to hear

jamos
15th February 2008, 01:08
Ok but please don't call it Blu-ray or BD-9/5 profile...



I was thinking more like Bluray 720p DVD-9 , Bluray 720p DVD-5
profiles

But you do understand to fit on a dvd-9 or 5 you must turn down the avg. bitrate using your profiles (it is still compliant with BD standards and still works in Scenarist).

XolocoTuxmaster
15th February 2008, 01:59
Sorry...I'm tired and haven't read well you message

You just changed average bitrate and deblocking strength?


C'mon man...if you read Sharktooth megui profiles thread you'll see that he says "put the bitrate and deblocking strength you want"...so that change is not enough to make some new profiles...since people will change them too everytime they use them