Jurassic Problem - very weird

[DVDHack]

I have been trying the newly released Jurassic DVD with very strange problems.

The movie is PAL about 3.8GB in VOBs.

When I try 3 pass encode it fails at frame 3321 (0%) every time. I tried lots of settings, since it was easy, failing 4 minutes into the movie. I eventually gave up and tried single pass with a quality priority of 5. It worked nicely - producing a 5.8GB mpeg + audio, I got 6 or 7 CD images. Needless to say I can't explain a 2+GB increase in file size - but the quality looks good!! Oh, I did set a max bit rate at around 2K. One thing I noticed was that in CCE on the file size info section during the encoding the bitrate was up to 8Mbps when usually this is more like 2Mbps, give or take a bit.

Last of all I tried CBR with the default bitrate for 90 min movie and 2x80 min CDs. The result was really bad, lots of blocks and jerky playback - I mean really bad, CBR doesn't normally look this bad to me and the bitrate was pretty good. Audio was set to 192 in all cases.

Anyone got any ideas.

[Mozart]

could you tell us what ripper used (vstrip, internal routines)?
Are you using Temporalsmoother?
this may be also a problem of field order selection. Could you download bitrate Viewer www.tecoltd.com and verify the vob field order versus encoded mpv field order?
btw: I already know that bug with 1passVBR. It happened twice for me.:)

[DVDHack]

I don't use temporal smoothing. The ripper in this case was the internal routine - version 104b2. I tried the same thing with smartripper. It locks the same and it appears to do a one pass vbr the same (high bitrate in CCE) but I haven't let it finish - work laptop.

I'll try the rest when I get home.

[DVDHack]

I just tried to find the field order on the VOBs with bitrate viewer but I don't think you can do it on the freeware version. Any suggestions ??

Thanks a lot for all the help.

By the way, is there a patch for the 1 VBR bug?

[Mozart]

have a look at general information field (http://www.tecoltd.com/usersg.htm). There you can find a line which says "field top first:no/yes".

About 1passVBR bug: it rarely ocurrs, thus, nobody works in such patch.

[DVDHack]

Thanks, that helped.
Field topfirst: Yes for both files. I only encoded a few seconds and examined the mpv file and first VOB.

Seems to be some other problem.