HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. GUIDE UPDATED!!

[glen8]

here are my results btw i am using Cole2k Media codec pack (if it makes any difference?)

Matrix Reloaded(DD+)-delay on audio set to 1000ms
Matrix Revolution(THD)- NONE
Bourne Identity(DD+)-None
Bourne Supremacy(DD+)- delay on audio set to1000ms
Shooter (DD+)-None


**FYI when i did matrix revolution i set my chapter interval to 15min instead of 10min in tsRemux for some reason this caused the movie to cut off at the end. However after going back to 10min interval worked fine. Also if audio doesn't sync use 1000ms delay w/tsMuxeR. (worked for most of my conversions).**

No sync issues with new guide ;-)

[glen8]

Can a mod please rename the title

from

HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. Working Guide :-)

to

HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. GUIDE UPDATED

Thanks!!

[GatorTex]

Glen....brilliant! Thanks for all the hard work.

[Adub]

@glen8
You should be able to change the title of the OP yourself. Just edit the main post and change the title.

[glen8]

@glen8
You should be able to change the title of the OP yourself. Just edit the main post and change the title.

You can't edit the title, I think the site owner has locked down the permissions

[Adub]

Hold up. Let me try editing one of my threads and be sure.

Edit: Okay, you can still do it. You just have to go to advanced mode. So click on edit, then "Go Advanced". That should do it.

[glen8]

Hold up. Let me try editing one of my threads and be sure.

Edit: Okay, you can still do it. You just have to go to advanced mode. So click on edit, then "Go Advanced". That should do it.

ah the good old advanced mode eh?

Thanks!!

[Adub]

No problem.

[jacked]

Glen,
Thanks for all your efforts in putting this great guide together.
Could you just help a numpty out on the vc1conv stage please ?
Can you explain exactly how you navigate to the vc1conv folder within the dos screen ?
If I put the vc1conv folder in the c:\ drive and copy your command line into dos I get error messages and that doesn`t work. If I put the vc1conv into the c:\ Document and Settings\David> folder then that just says access denied when I press enter.
Should I even put vc1conv into this Documents and Settings folder ? This line is listed on the dos screen.
On a couple of samples I tried I just imported the vc1 video into Scenarist and that worked perfectly, albeit 1080i.
If using vc1conv retains 1080p/24 video then I would prefer that method If I can get it to work.
Thanks a lot Glen
Numpty signing out !

[glen8]

Vista or XP?

The vc1conv folder wants to be on the root of c:\ ideally

start > run > cmd [return]

cd\ [return]

cd vc1conv [return]

then run command

what error are you getting?

[drmpeg]

The best place to put any command line program like vc1conv or xport is in a directory that the Command Prompt window has a path to.

http://www.w6rz.net/path.jpg

There is always a path to C:\WINDOWS, so that's the most convenient place to put vc1conv.exe. Then it works in whatever directory you're in.

Ron

[jacked]

Vista or XP?

The vc1conv folder wants to be on the root of c:\ ideally

start > run > cmd [return]

cd\ [return]

cd vc1conv [return]

then run command

what error are you getting?

Thanks very much for your help with that, that`s sorted it.
It was the cd\ and cd vc1conv that I didn`t know to do.
Cheers Glen
You`re the man !
:thanks:

[clockworkman]

Maybe this has already been asked, but why not just choose "Create Blu-ray Disk" in tsMuxeR 1.5 and skip the Scenarist steps to create the Bluray folder?

[glen8]

Maybe this has already been asked, but why not just choose "Create Blu-ray Disk" in tsMuxeR 1.5 and skip the Scenarist steps to create the Bluray folder?

after extensive testing the only method which worked flawlessly on every disk was this method.

My original guide actually used tsmuxer but it does present a few problems now and again.

[madshi]

The new guide looks nice. Some comments:

(1) The eac3to link is not correct.
(2) delaycut 1.3.0.0 is not available on the original delaycut author's homepage.
(3) eac3to can automate Surcode encoding for you. Instead of "eac3to c:\videos\audio.ddp c:\videos\audio.wavs" you can simply do "eac3to c:\videos\audio.ddp c:\videos\audio.dts".
(4) EvoDemux does not correct audio delay. So with movies where the audio track begins later or earlier than the video track a manual delay correction will still be necessary. You could use "eac3to FEATURE_1.EVO+FEATURE_2.EVO -demux" for demuxing instead of using EvoDemux. That way audio sync should always be correct cause eac3to automatically delays all audio tracks (except TrueHD tracks) correctly.

[glen8]

The new guide looks nice. Some comments:

(1) The eac3to link is not correct.
(2) delaycut 1.3.0.0 is not available on the original delaycut author's homepage.
(3) eac3to can automate Surcode encoding for you. Instead of "eac3to c:\videos\audio.ddp c:\videos\audio.wavs" you can simply do "eac3to c:\videos\audio.ddp c:\videos\audio.dts".
(4) EvoDemux does not correct audio delay. So with movies where the audio track begins later or earlier than the video track a manual delay correction will still be necessary.

Thanks for the points, I'll get the link fixed. I forgot about the later delaycut for ddp tracks.

However

The reason I used the .wavs and manually imported into surcode was for *cough* reasons I shouldn't really go into *cough* if you know what I mean *wink* *wink*

I've converted 20 movies now and never had an audio delay. If people have used the new guide and do have problems then I will update it again.

I will admit that I did get a few problems using tsmuxer but none through scenarist which is why I completely scrapped the original guide.

[madshi]

I've converted 20 movies now and never had an audio delay. If people have used the new guide and do have problems then I will update it again.
Check out this screenshot from your guide:

http://www.glenharrison.com/bluray/images/avc/1.jpg

The video track begins +83ms later than the first PTM of the movie. Now I don't know where the audio tracks begin with that movie (cause the screenshot doesn't show the audio tracks). I'd guess that the audio tracks begin at "+0ms". That means you'd have to apply a "-83ms" delay to the audio track to get perfect audio sync. Now many people will not notice a mismatch of 83ms. But still it's not right. And with some (only few) movies the delay differences are bigger than that.

You can find out the right audio delay by comparing the "+-xxxms" information shown by EvoDemux. You need to compare the values for the video track to the values for each audio track you're interested in.

[glen8]

Check out this screenshot from your guide:

http://www.glenharrison.com/bluray/images/avc/1.jpg

The video track begins +83ms later than the first PTM of the movie. Now I don't know where the audio tracks begin with that movie (cause the screenshot doesn't show the audio tracks). I'd guess that the audio tracks begin at "+0ms". That means you'd have to apply a "-83ms" delay to the audio track to get perfect audio sync. Now many people will not notice a mismatch of 83ms. But still it's not right. And with some (only few) movies the delay differences are bigger than that.

You can find out the right audio delay by comparing the "+-xxxms" information shown by EvoDemux. You need to compare the values for the video track to the values for each audio track you're interested in.

I must admit I've never noticed a dealy. Maybe scenarist fixes the problem when it mux?

[hidef_rec]

Thanks for the guide. The HD->BR Keep FPS option in h264info_v22 fixed my framerate problem.

Scenarist looks complicated [not to mention extremely expensive, legally obtained at least]. Using TSMuxer, then TSRemux has been working well for me. I wonder which produces a more compliant Blu-ray structure...TSMuxer or TSRemux?

[laserfan]

There is always a path to C:\WINDOWS, so that's the most convenient place to put vc1conv.exe. Then it works in whatever directory you're in.Geez, Ron, I've been using a number of "command prompt" proggies now but forgot this simple tip! Thanks (where is the "beats head against wall" smilie)!!! :p

[survivant001]

one question.

How can I split a file 000001.m2ts (4.5 gigs) into 2 files, 4 gigs and 500megs and create the playlist ?

I want to split the file to be able to copy the bluray into a externalHD on FAT32.

[B4tm4n]

one question.

How can I split a file 000001.m2ts (4.5 gigs) into 2 files, 4 gigs and 500megs and create the playlist ?

I want to split the file to be able to copy the bluray into a externalHD on FAT32.


Tssplitter(?)

[glen8]

one question.

How can I split a file 000001.m2ts (4.5 gigs) into 2 files, 4 gigs and 500megs and create the playlist ?

I want to split the file to be able to copy the bluray into a externalHD on FAT32.

it's all in the guide, just enter 4000mb manually to keep within the FAT limitation

[napalm-187]

@glen

after muxxing the m2ts stream i get error in scenarist

log file says
tswrapper has ab bug

the complet bd structur is not finnish
the m2ts is finnish

[survivant001]

it's all in the guide, just enter 4000mb manually to keep within the FAT limitation

I didn't saw the part where tsssplitter create the playlist !

the hard part is not the split the file... is to create a valid avchd that will play on the PS3.. without human intervention.. I don'T want to manually start the 2th part of the movie.

[burro08]

I didn't saw the part where tsssplitter create the playlist !

the hard part is not the split the file... is to create a valid avchd that will play on the PS3.. without human intervention.. I don'T want to manually start the 2th part of the movie.

I have looked for the solution to this and as far as i can tell the ps3 doesn't go on to the second file with out ur help, it seams it a sony safe guard against piracy or some shit lol

tho i convert the large m2ts file with megui and i get excellent quality and the filesize is around 3.8gig at a bitrate of around 5000
The only draw back is the time it takes around 19hrs on my dualcore E6400 cant wait for my quadcore

[madshi]

I must admit I've never noticed a dealy. Maybe scenarist fixes the problem when it mux?
Scenarist cannot possibly know the right delay. The information is lost in the moment when you demux the tracks. So in order to get the delays perfect you either need to compare the delays of the video/audio tracks in EvoDemux (and then afterwards apply the necessary delays with delaycut or eac3to). Or alternatively you could use eac3to to demux the tracks. eac3to will then automatically do any necessary corrections (which EvoDemux does not do) while demuxing.

[fuzz!]

In your guide you say rip all audio tracks, unless you "somehow" know what language it is.

Why not mention that hitting "Read XPL" will give you all that information and more?

[n0mag!c]

one question.
How can I split a file 000001.m2ts (4.5 gigs) into 2 files, 4 gigs and 500megs and create the playlist ?
I want to split the file to be able to copy the bluray into a externalHD on FAT32.it's all in the guide, just enter 4000mb manually to keep within the FAT limitation
Can you please extend your guide to produce multi-title Blu-ray?

[survivant001]

Can you please extend your guide to produce multi-title Blu-ray?

thanks.. THAT'S the name I was looking for.. multi-title.

go make a post on tsmuxer to add the feature. If we are enough maybe he will do it :)

[glen8]

Can you please extend your guide to produce multi-title Blu-ray?

Yes, but I haven't got the time at the min. I'll try and get it done next week

[bass4040]

My first hd to blu movie, and after the step 2 guide how do I get the subtitles from the hd-dvd movie to a blu-ray movie?

[digitlman]

I dont really understand the point of all this stuff in the guide. i just took a hd-dvd, the bourne identity, loaded it into tsremuxer, and told it to output bluray format, keeping just the vc1 video track and the DD+ audio track. one click and then it was done and i played it perfectly in powerdvd with my HD2600 h/w acceleration.

going to try ultimatum and see if it works with the TrueHD track.

Is there something i am missing here?

[n0mag!c]

I dont really understand the point of all this stuff in the guide. i just took a hd-dvd, the bourne identity, loaded it into tsremuxer, and told it to output bluray format, keeping just the vc1 video track and the DD+ audio track. one click and then it was done and i played it perfectly in powerdvd with my HD2600 h/w acceleration.
Is there something i am missing here?
This guide was written before TsMuxer got this new possibility.

[musicman2311]

I dont really understand the point of all this stuff in the guide. i just took a hd-dvd, the bourne identity, loaded it into tsremuxer, and told it to output bluray format, keeping just the vc1 video track and the DD+ audio track. one click and then it was done and i played it perfectly in powerdvd with my HD2600 h/w acceleration.

going to try ultimatum and see if it works with the TrueHD track.

Is there something i am missing here?

take your result on a BD-RE and try to play on stand-alone player; then you will see what the guide is good for

[glen8]

take your result on a BD-RE and try to play on stand-alone player; then you will see what the guide is good for

Thanks Musicman :-)

[theblind]

Hi !

In this way: whats about the layer break on double layer disc... for example King Kong 2005 its too big for a single layer disc... on a double layer disc I have a short (1 frame ?) time green blocks in the picture...

Cu.

[Herve66]

I've done several vc1 movies using the latest procedure and have gotten perfect results.

After following the avc procedure to the letter for the first time, I attempted to load an AVC video ves file (Sum of All Fears) into Scenarist. Here's what I get in Scenarist immediately after trying to load the file:

Any ideas?

[hidef_rec]

I'm having issues w/the following HD DVDs ... 'Equilibrium' Japanese import [appears to be 1080p/60] and all the Jack Ryan discs. The latter have a framerate of 20 fps after I used TSMuxer to combine the elementary streams into a TS.

[ProtectionFault]

Here is a minor correction for your guide. On page three, you have checked: Write PPS and HD->BR for h264info. Scenarist wouldn't load the video for Transformers as an asset unless I went back and redid step 3 with "remove pulldown" checked.

Btw, it looks perfect. Thanks again for all your hard work.

[Calculon]

The new guide looks nice. Some comments:


(2) delaycut 1.3.0.0 is not available on the original delaycut author's homepage.



So... Where is it? It sure isn't on Google from what I can see.

Edit: Nevermind. I found that it is included with AutoMKV.

[ProtectionFault]

More testing, after 5 attempts, no joy with Blades of Glory. Scenarist just wouldn't accept it as an asset and no error other than "error reading file" I re-ripped it twice as well. I ended up skipping the scenarist step for this movie and used tsMuxGUI and chose blu-ray output. I then used tsremux on the m2ts stream so that I could put it on 2 DL DVDs. Worked perfectly.

After testing about 5 h264 movies with this guide, Blades of Glory was the only one that I ultimately couldn't get it to work with.

This is great stuff, thanks again!

[glen8]

I'm having a rest at the min but will update the guide soon

[hidef_rec]

Thanks for your work. I've got your guide bookmarked and use it regularly.

[Herve66]

More testing, after 5 attempts, no joy with Blades of Glory. Scenarist just wouldn't accept it as an asset and no error other than "error reading file" I re-ripped it twice as well. I ended up skipping the scenarist step for this movie and used tsMuxGUI and chose blu-ray output. I then used tsremux on the m2ts stream so that I could put it on 2 DL DVDs. Worked perfectly.

After testing about 5 h264 movies with this guide, Blades of Glory was the only one that I ultimately couldn't get it to work with.

This is great stuff, thanks again!
I've ripped Sum of All Fears twice and tried h264info three times with various items ticked and even tried 23.976 frame rate once. None of the resulting ves files were accepted by scenarist as actual assets - always the same error message that I posted above.

[ProtectionFault]

I've ripped Sum of All Fears twice and tried h264info three times with various items ticked and even tried 23.976 frame rate once. None of the resulting ves files were accepted by scenarist as actual assets - always the same error message that I posted above.

Herve66:
For the movie blades of glory (same error you got in scenarist), I skipped scenarist (as quoted above.)

This is what I did to get it to work:
followed guide through step 3;
step 4: I used eac3to -libav -640 on the mpa to make the ac3 audio.

step 5:ran TSMUXer Gui 1.6.3, added the h264 and ac3 and chose "create blu-ray" after that, I ran tsRemux to split it into 2 for DVD-DL disks. Worked perfectly. This is the only case where I had to deviate from scenarist.

Hope this helps, give it a try.

[Herve66]

Herve66:
For the movie blades of glory (same error you got in scenarist), I skipped scenarist (as quoted above.)

This is what I did to get it to work:
followed guide through step 3;
step 4: I used eac3to -libav -640 on the mpa to make the ac3 audio.

step 5:ran TSMUXer Gui 1.6.3, added the h264 and ac3 and chose "create blu-ray" after that, I ran tsRemux to split it into 2 for DVD-DL disks. Worked perfectly. This is the only case where I had to deviate from scenarist.

Hope this helps, give it a try.
I've used the method you descibe before successfully (I believe that it was the preferred method prior to glen8's latest one), but when Scenarist is not used as the muxer, the final product plays with some minor, infrequent but nonetheless noticeable, hesitations or skips when played back in a PS3. They are less noticeable when played in a PC.

The same thing happened with VC1 movies. That's why I first tried the lengthier Scenarist method with VC1. With VC1 titles done in the latest fashion, playback in PS3 is indeed perfect and that's why it's too bad that Scenarist and at least a few avc titles don't get along.

I hope that if anyone has been successful getting Scenarist to accept "Blades" or "Sum", they will post how they did so.

[glen8]

I've used the method you descibe before successfully (I believe that it was the preferred method prior to glen8's latest one), but when Scenarist is not used as the muxer, the final product plays with some minor, infrequent but nonetheless noticeable, hesitations or skips when played back in a PS3. They are less noticeable when played in a PC.

The same thing happened with VC1 movies. That's why I first tried the lengthier Scenarist method with VC1. With VC1 titles done in the latest fashion, playback in PS3 is indeed perfect and that's why it's too bad that Scenarist and at least a few avc titles don't get along.

I hope that if anyone has been successful getting Scenarist to accept "Blades" or "Sum", they will post how they did so.

I think someone found a fix for these movies, somewhere in this thread

[kwiksilver]

Ive searched but when I follow this guide for transformers my video shakes vertically when played back from my ps3 to by 1080i tv via hdmi.

I have done the guide twice on two different machines. Is there a trick to this movie?

[iontyre]

Isn't Scenarist commercial software? I thought the whole point here was to be able to use free software. Can't we stick to TSRemux?

[glen8]

Isn't Scenarist commercial software? I thought the whole point here was to be able to use free software. Can't we stick to TSRemux?

The guide has always been about the trying to find the best way of converting the formats.

TSRemux was in the original guide but gave problems...maybe the latest version has addressed some of those??

[zazon]

Hello All ~

I'm trying to convert the HD DVD of Unforgiven onto a Blu-Ray disc and have been using the guide. The first part has worked great, but I'm a little hung up on step four. When I go to use eac3to I get the error message "Getting Nero Audio Decoder 2. Instance failed. Aborted at file position 16384." It obviously isn't working. I tried using the Delaycut software, but I don't think that's the problem. I have Nero version 8.3. I was reading through the thread. I think I saw I where it said version 7 of Nero was better for audio encoding. Should I be using that or is there another preferred method. I tried searching through the thread, but didn't see anything relevant. Thanks for any help.

[theblind]

Hi !

Not better - only chance with the 7er Nero version... because the nero 8 codecs works only with nero applications.

Cu.

[zazon]

So I only need Nero for the encoding, not for anything else like the burning? Thanks for the reply.


Edit: So I installed Nero 7.5 and now am getting the error " The WAV writer did not receive the format information. Aborted file at position......." Anyone got a clue on this one? Thanks for any help.

[clockworkman]

Is there any way to take the TrueHD track from the original HD-DVD and use it with this guide to create the BD? If not, what is the next best option for audio quality if the HD-DVD has no DTS HD MA track?

Thanks

[Coolpplse]

Is there any way to take the TrueHD track from the original HD-DVD and use it with this guide to create the BD? If not, what is the next best option for audio quality if the HD-DVD has no DTS HD MA track?

Thanks

Since Blu-Ray supports Dolby TrueHD isnt it possible to import it into Sonic Scenarist? If not the next best option for Blu-Ray would be to convert it to PCM.

[qtx999]

Hello All ~

When I go to use eac3to I get the error message "Getting Nero Audio Decoder 2. Instance failed. Aborted at file position 16384."

did you try the -libav option?

eac3to file.eac3 file.ac3 -libav

i don't use nero 8, so don't know if this might be a problem

[kmitalian]

I want to know also to convert any TrueHD or DTS HD Master and then convert the audio as 5.1 PCM to import it as 5.1 PCM into Scenarist.

So we audiophiles get 100% exact audio!!!!!


Please Update the guide to PCM!!!!

[zazon]

did you try the -libav option?

eac3to file.eac3 file.ac3 -libav

i don't use nero 8, so don't know if this might be a problem


When I install Nero 7, I got a the newer error message I posted later. I'll give your idea shot and see what happens. Thanks for the reply.

[nekrosoft13]

is there anyway to convert HD-DVD files made in Nero Vision to Blu-ray structure?

I used Nero Vision to re-encode two clips, because original size where about 1 gb to big for BD.

Nero Vision did create HD-DVD structure that is a bit different then retail HD-DVD, but iso image plays fine in PowerDVD.

I tried using Blu-ray profile, but for some reason BD is limited to interlaced in Nero Vision, HD-DVD is allowed to be re-encoded in Progressive.

Problem is that now I can't get the EVO files back to BD structure. Tried evodemux, tsremux, tsmuxer.

Evodemux, since the files were cut in 1gb segments, evodemux will not detect the next segment is stops at the first.

tsmuxer will not detect audio in first and last setgment file.

tsremux finds video stream, ac3 stream, plus two additional phantom mpeg audio streams

[Herve66]

Try this from the master:............................
You could use "eac3to FEATURE_1.EVO+FEATURE_2.EVO -demux" for demuxing instead of using EvoDemux.
..............................
I've done the above for two evo files. Presumably, you could do it for even three or more and end up with a single video file and perhaps several audio and subtitle files.

In madshi's above example, the evo files reside in the same directory as the eac3to.exe file. For evos residing elsewhere (on the ROM drive, for example), one must type the FULL PATH to each file in the series.

(As far as I'm concerned, eac3to is the preferred software when it comes to demuxing m2ts and evo files - particularly because it compensates for any plus or minus audio delay prior to remuxing and it also identifies the audio track's language. Congrats, madshi.)

[EPiPH0NE]

I want to know also to convert any TrueHD or DTS HD Master and then convert the audio as 5.1 PCM to import it as 5.1 PCM into Scenarist.

So we audiophiles get 100% exact audio!!!!!


Please Update the guide to PCM!!!!


+1.

I am currently trying to this as well but w/o Scenarist. I have and have used Scenarist but switched to tsMuxeR a few months back. Works perfect for my BluRay/Hd-DVD projects.

[malibu08]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\blu_ray\eac3to>eac3to N:\TEST\audio.ddp N:\TEST\audio.wavs -nero
E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1:49:16, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Removing dialog normalization...
Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
The WAV writer didn't receive the format information.
Aborted at file position 629352960.

Hi!
This is the error from eac3to
What is the problem?
Can anybody help me please ??

:helpful:

[Beastie Boy]

For eac3to problems, you would be better off posting in the eac3to thread.

Try eac3to -test to confirm your Nero filter is working.
Try using the -libav switch to force to libav decoder.
If the above don't work, there could be a problem with your source file.

Cheers, Beastie.

[malibu08]

For eac3to problems, you would be better off posting in the eac3to thread.

Try eac3to -test to confirm your Nero filter is working.
Try using the -libav switch to force to libav decoder.
If the above don't work, there could be a problem with your source file.

Cheers, Beastie.

:thanks: for your help

C:\blu_ray\eac3to>eac3to -test
Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7 or older) is not working correctly
Sonic Audio Decoder (4.2.0.102) works fine
Haali Media Splitter doesn't seem to be installed
Surcode DTS Encoder doesn't seem to be installed
MkvToolnix doesn't seem to be installed

What is the problem with nero?
What should i do now?

THANK You so much !!

[Beastie Boy]

The Nero HD DVD/BluRay plugin is a seperate purchase from Nero 7. Have you purchased a serial number for the plugin?
Alternatively, use -libav on the end of your command line.

Cheers, Beastie.

[malibu08]

The Nero HD DVD/BluRay plugin is a seperate purchase from Nero 7. Have you purchased a serial number for the plugin?
Alternatively, use -libav on the end of your command line.

Cheers, Beastie.

Ah okay...i don`t have this plugin

THx for your help

regards and have a nice day

[iontyre]

The guide has always been about the trying to find the best way of converting the formats.

TSRemux was in the original guide but gave problems...maybe the latest version has addressed some of those??

I can only find two places that even sell Scenarist, and they are on the west coast. Can we even get it here in the east, and how much does it cost?

[pulsation]

For anyone who can help...

I am trying to convert Terminator 2: Judgement Day Director's cut HD-DVD into files the PS3 will play. Right now the movie is broken up into several .ts files. I am trying to convert the .ts. files to .m2ts files with Tsremux with no luck. The .m2ts output option is completely grayed-out. Any thoughts? The .ts files have VC-1 video and DTS-HD MA audio.

:thanks:

[OHB]

I have followed all the steps several times and in the end my m2ts (blu-ray structure) file has audio video off sync i have no idea how to fix it. can anyone help me.

[Herve66]

I have followed all the steps several times and in the end my m2ts (blu-ray structure) file has audio video off sync i have no idea how to fix it. can anyone help me.
Are you using eac3to for the original demux of the evo(s)? If not, give it a try. eac3to will adjust audio delay when writing the new, demuxed audio files.

eac3to FEATURE_1.EVO+FEATURE_2.EVO -demux

One must first open a dos window, change directory (cd) to the eac3to directory, then, when typing the above command, type the FULL PATH to each file in the series.

[OHB]

did that this time around and just ran the vc1 file in vc1conv now about to feed it through scenarist again and see what that gives out

[OHB]

ok so i tried it again (demux everything through eac3to) and then went through vc1conv and delaycut, created the mui files, ran them in hdmv, and still get audio video off sync. i also ran them through tsmuxergui and added a delay of 2000ms. audio starts late but some how gets ahead of the video again within 2 min of running. anyone know whats going on with this???

this is the timeline in the clip editor in scenarist

and another thing it shows that the vc1 file is profile 3. i'm going to be playing this on a ps3. do i not have to make it 4.1 for ps3 playability?

[n0mag!c]

it shows that the vc1 file is profile 3. i'm going to be playing this on a ps3. do i not have to make it 4.1 for ps3 playability?
4.1 concerns to H.264 video stream not to VC-1 stream.

[OHB]

is there a way for me to slow down the audio so that it runs with the 23.976fps video?

[Herve66]

This is a bit OT, so please forgive me.

I've demuxed a BD m2ts using eac3to and end up with a xxxx.h264 file and several audio and subtitle files.

I would like to use MUIgenerator to produce video ves and other files necessary for Scenarist to mux with the audio files that MUIGenerator has no problem whatsoever producing.

I figured that since the xxxx.h264 video file is demuxed from a BD m2ts file, the file should be of a proper format for MUIGenerator to easily produce the ves files, but MUIgenerator always gives an error and produces not a single file.

Before using MUIGenerator, I've tried simply changing the .h264 file extension to .avc and then inputting that file into MUIGenerator, and I've even tried using h264info to "convert" the h264 file to a file with the avc extension. Neither method works. MUIGenerator will simply not produce ves files from that xxxx.h264 file. (I've tried this on two different BD h264-encoded movies.)

The funny thing is that Tsmuxr can create a bd disk structure from the m2ts file, and Imgburn can create the iso, no problem, but the resulting iso has the occasional hiccup that HD-DVD-to-BD isos, that are finally muxed with Scenarist, never have.

Anyone had any luck getting MUIGenerator to produce ves files from an xxxx.h264 file that has been demuxed from an m2ts container?

Thanks

[OHB]

can anyone explain why i have a longer video coming out after using vc1conv? this is where my issues are coming from as i can get nothing working after this

[OHB]

ok so after everything that i have been through with the entire process i decided to tryout tsmuxergui. i muxed from .evo to split to two .m2ts files and then muxed it again using the create blu-ray burned each set to dl+dvd and ran fine.

[wdiceo]

So, obviously this thread has knowledge with hddvd to blu ray,

so heres my question. I do not want to burn a blu-ray, I want my ending result file - the m2ts or m2t file to play from my network storage running twonky to stream to the ps3.

I did everything according to the guide at the beginning and get a big nasty corrupt data error.

So, obviously saying ps3 will play .m2ts or .ts streams is where im getting kicked in the butt. WHat do I have to do to take the end file from scenarist and make it so it will play off my Network Storage on my ps3?

I tried a couple different ways, end it im messing something up.

[Beastie Boy]

So, obviously saying ps3 will play .m2ts or .ts streams is where im getting kicked in the butt. WHat do I have to do to take the end file from scenarist and make it so it will play off my Network Storage on my ps3?

You don't need Scenarist. Use eac3to to produce a ac3 file and mkv file from your source EVOs or BR disc. If the video codec is VC1, use meGUI to convert the mkv to h264 raw stream (.264) using the PS3 profile.
Import the video (mkv or 264) and audio into tsMuxer and output to .ts.
Voila.

Cheers, Beastie.

[wdiceo]

Alright, tried above method. WORKED.. will play. But runs"slow" almost like a stutter...
tried with a h.264 file.

Any thoughts? Plays fine in cyberlink power dvd, synced fine. Could it be my router? Its a 10/100? Suggestions?

[Beastie Boy]

Do you have any way to play the file, or a portion of the file, connected directly to the PS3, perhaps using an external USB drive or pen drive. A 100Mbit wired connection should be fine, but at least you would know whether the file was working OK and if you need to start looking for network problems.
The TS file can be trimmed in tsMuxer.

Cheers, Beastie.

[malgates]

Hi,

I tired to convert the hd dvd DOOM to Blu-Ray. I used your guide until step 3. To convert the audio to ac3 I used eac3to. After that I just muxed the Audio and video with the mkvmerge gui. I get an new file that works with PowerDVD (the previous didn't) but it won't be played on the playstation 3.

Where did I go wrong? Is it even possible to Use the VC1 files on the PS3 without encoding it to H.264. I don't want to encode them because my Computer is to slow for that.

Is there a Programm that identifies the Fil and can tell me wether its Blu-Ray compliant or not?

Thx

[Blu-Watcher]

Doing all the converting as instructed (doing Dune) HD 2 BD the finished files work great in my Totalmedia Theater 3 and once burned to BD they work in the computer but when the disk is put 1n the Panasonic BD80 and a BD50 they will not run.

Has anyone got an idea why.

The burned selection is 24.3GB for one though incase size might be

Also I'm thinking no menu might be a problem

Or in the burning

Help
Thanks

[Capsbackup]

Maybe the issue is the Panasonic, as they can be picky as to what they will play back. Perhaps you could try your disc on another brand player, like Sony, and see if it plays. This could save you time and frustration trying to figure out if what you did was an acceptable conversion, just not for the Panasonic! :cool:

[Blu-Watcher]

Problem there, live out in the country and don't know a soul that has a Blu-Ray machine.

[Ghitulescu]

All Pannies behave the same and are a sort of "exception".
Try using multiAVCHD with "Panasonic/Viera output" and it will work.

[Blu-Watcher]

At what point in the process from processing the video to just before burning are you suggesting to use this multiAVCHD program.

[laserfan]

At what point in the process from processing the video to just before burning are you suggesting to use this multiAVCHD program.
First thing to try is to open mAVCHD and drag the BDMV/CERT folders from your finished BD onto it (that is, after copying these folders back onto a hard drive somewhere). When mAVCHD offers to Re-Author you say yes, then output again using Panny option.

[deank]

Doing all the converting as instructed (doing Dune) HD 2 BD the finished files work great in my Totalmedia Theater 3 and once burned to BD they work in the computer but when the disk is put 1n the Panasonic BD80 and a BD50 they will not run.

Do you burn BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders to the disc or just some m2ts files. If you do the 2nd it will never work.

I think there is no "Panasonic" options for output in re-author mode, but you can do it in the normal authoring mode and get a menu.

[Blu-Watcher]

I still had the final files on the computer so ran them thru the multiAVCHD I hope I did it right but it processed the files and gave no errors burned again and it still didn't work. It started reading the disk and then stopped no err reported.

Well, I backed up the process and recombined the Video and Audio in tsMuxeRGUI and set it for Blu-Ray at fps 24000/1001 and remuxed it and it gave me a blu-ray folders which I burned to a TDK 25G disk with Nero 9 and this one worked in the Panasonic.

It did have some jerkiness to it, but when I restarted the movie it wasn't there the next time I got to the jerkiness spot.

In other words I didn't do the last step tsremux.

I burn folders and all just like a regular BD.

How much of this processing can be done in this multiAVCHD or is it just the last step for the panasonic?

[Blu-Watcher]

I've got one last HD-DVD to process and it's a H264 type, when I process it it comes up with PTS< DTS Rerun and try the B-Pyramid option. I check that option and then it tells me PTS< DTS Please check input stream or report to H264info author.

I get the last about the author but whats the rest about?

I own 38 HD-DVD movies that I'd like to convert to my blu-ray cause I'm getting a Sony 400 disk unit.

[Blu-Watcher]

Well, the Clown_BD worked great got all the disks converted Thanks for the help.

[rick090]

Hi. i wanna use the guide but the link is leading nowhere. is there an updated link?
thanks.

[setarip_old]

@Blu-Watcher, @rick090

Hi!

I think you'll find it much easier and simpler to do the following in order to convert your ripped/decrypted HD-DVDs to BluRay:

1) Open tsMuxeR GUI
2) Click on the "Join" radiobutton and select the first "Feature".EVO. Repeat for each consecutive "Feature".EVO (usually just one more. Almost all HD-DVDs have the main movie comprised of two "Feature" .EVOs
3) Select "BluRay" at the bottom of the window.
4) Click the "Start Muxing" radiobutton

[rapscallion]

I tried that with the Eagle's Farewell Tour, which has 3 EVO's.

The thrid one resulted in terrible out of sync audio.

Now that the guide in the first post is no longer there, any suggestions ?

Edit: OK, extracted the audio via eac3to and it found a 273ms delay @ 1h39m08s. Fixed it in the 2nd pass and all is well. Remuxed with the m2ts via tsmuxer and all is in sync. Turned out to be an easy process, so thanks again Setarip for your wisdom !

[setarip_old]

so thanks again Setarip for your wisdom !

As always, my pleasure (especially for someone from "Lawnguyland" ;>})...

[rapscallion]

AKA, Isle of Long :cool:

[vosscross]

I tried that with the Eagle's Farewell Tour, which has 3 EVO's.

The thrid one resulted in terrible out of sync audio.

Now that the guide in the first post is no longer there, any suggestions ?

Edit: OK, extracted the audio via eac3to and it found a 273ms delay @ 1h39m08s. Fixed it in the 2nd pass and all is well. Remuxed with the m2ts via tsmuxer and all is in sync. Turned out to be an easy process, so thanks again Setarip for your wisdom !

Hey i have the eagles hd-dvd also, my question is have you rescue also the dts hd master audio line by remuxing process?

vosscross

[rapscallion]

Well, not completely. If you want to burn this to a BD-25, and leave the video untouched (no re encode), then you have to drop the DTS-HD down to DTS-HRA @ 3841 Kbps, or else it won't fit.

[vosscross]

Ok,
if i want to use a bd-50 it will gone.

can you tell me witch programms you have us. my current standing is that i have the 3 concert files on my pc pipped with any dvd hd.

vosscross

[rapscallion]

See posts # 345/6 above.

[Highdef007]

I have a question. I am backing up a Blu-ray movie that is probably around 31gigs. I am using AnyDVD, TsMuxerGui, HDBDSpliGUI and IMGburn plus probably other programs. What I want to do is split the movie into a 25 gig Blu-ray and a dual layer DVD. The reason is that I don want to waste a second Blu-ray if I can use one. Basically I want to save some money. I have been successful in burning both to a blu-ray and Dual layer dvd without any compression. The problem happens when I play the DVD movie in the Blue-ray player. The Dvd movie many times starts to stutter a little in the beginning and the it corrects itself where it plays flawless. My newer Sony and play station3 play the movie exactly as I said a small stutter in the beginning and the it clears up. My Samsung on the other hand the movie is almost unplayable. Does anyone know how to correct this so the DVD will play flawless? I would appreciate your help. Yes I know that I can use another Blu-ray for the second half.

[rapscallion]

Your problem is using the DL DVD for Blu-ray. If it's uncompressed, then the bitrate is too high. The DVD spec allows bitrates only up to 10.8 Mbps, everything included (video, audio, subs, overhead), so you're exceeding the spec.

BD spec, on the other hand, for video, is 40Mbps.

That's why it stutters and/or won't play. Uncompressed, you have to use BD discs.

[setarip_old]

@Highdef007

Hi!

Make certain that the DVD is formatted UDF 2.50...

[eclipsepix85]

can someone pleeease post a link to the guide,. all this info is useless without the guide to work from...
or
just repost it here as text...

[setarip_old]

@eclipsepix85

Hi!

Click on the following link:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1389932&postcount=345

[eclipsepix85]

Thanks but i'm looking for Glenn's updated how to:
that method might work for somethings but Glenns full method works for diff format hddvds everytime..

[Stereodude]

Thanks but i'm looking for Glenn's updated how to:
that method might work for somethings but Glenns full method works for diff format hddvds everytime..If you just want to turn a HD-DVD into a movie only Blu-Ray ClownBD will do that just like it does for a normal Blu-Ray without any extra steps. I never saw Glenn's guide myself, so I can't comment what it could or couldn't do.

[eclipsepix85]

How can clown bd do that, unless you rip ,tsmux ect to a BR format , HDDVD'S dont naturally have a bdmv folder,...?
sorry ,.i'm still a blu format noob...

fyi: I'm just trying to find a step by step guide ,so i can figure out... how to back up my hddvd's to bd-r discs,.

i want to burn the features on BD-R's (w/chapters in 1080p with 5.1 audio),.
so i can watch them on a sony bdp-s560 player and a 55"

I've had some successful backups, but i'm still missing something in the process,

(especially with the vc-1 type hd dvd's and sometimes with brrips i'm trying to convert and burn to dvd9 's ,.)
i keep ending up with studdering, the 5sec freezing frames,.ect

the Problem happens when i need to change levels / fps or pulldowns after evodemuxing,.

the h264info settings part is mostly where i need help ,.
i just don't understand how to use the program at all....
when do i have to change vc-1 to h264 and how??
23.976 fps always??? ,level change to 4.1 ??? ,..3.2pulldown????
help...


and in the output settings process,.avchd ,or m2ts,or bluray output?

when i do tsmuxr output to m2ts i get decent playback but no chapters..
if i set to Bluray or Avchd setting for burning a AVCHD type / on dvd9 i get studdering/jerky playback...

glenn8's guide supposedly had a foolproof method of doing this process...
but i'm open to any plain laymens type help...

[Stereodude]

How can clown bd do that, unless you rip ,tsmux ect to a BR format , HDDVD'S dont naturally have a bdmv folder,...?
sorry ,.i'm still a blu format noob...You can point ClownBD to a HD-DVD just like you can point it to a blu-ray. You don't have to convert or preprocess anything. Despite the name it knows how to handle / process a HD-DVD. So, if you've got AnyDVD HD running you can just point ClownBD to the HD-DVD drive in your system or point ClownBD to a folder on your hard drive containing a rip of a HD-DVD. The basic functionality of it is no different than when it's working with a blu-ray input.

The only potential pitfall of the whole process is that DD+ is not compatible with Blu-Ray, so ClownBD will convert it to LPCM 5.1 audio (which is big) if you set the audio options to leave it alone (ie: not turn it into AC3). LPCM is not an ideal audio format either because it's large and some BD players can't encode it to DD5.1 or DTS on the fly. So if you play the resulting BD disc in a system with only a SPDIF audio connection you only get 2 channel audio (and perhaps not even a 2 channel mixdown just L&R from the 5.1). FWIW, I think the BD spec requires an AC3 mix on the BD if it has LPCM 5.1 audio.

[eclipsepix85]

SORRY FOR THE OMG !!! BUT, OMG THANKS STEREODUDE !!!!
I hadn't wanted to 'try' another program but ,. Clown is exactly what i was looking for !!
you even get a tsmuxed output if needed!!!
and unlike others, its gui and shows all the info so i can make decisions about what i want,..
i'm soooo surprised,. it's my new favorite program...

thanks,.your THE MAN !!!

more quest to follow im sure,.but so far soo good...

[mrr19121970]

You can also convert HD-DVD to standard DVD too.

[eclipsepix85]

Still Looking for the Guide if ANYONE IS OUT THERE?

[rapscallion]

The guide is gone dude, totally outdated w/numerous steps that can now be completed quickly/efficiently in Tsmuxer. (post 35)

Don't waste your time by keep asking for a guide that GH doesn't even keep on his link anymore.

I doubt it would help to pm him (have you tried?) as he hasn't been around the forum since Aug.

[Rich86]

@Blu-Watcher, @rick090

Hi!

I think you'll find it much easier and simpler to do the following in order to convert your ripped/decrypted HD-DVDs to BluRay:

1) Open tsMuxeR GUI
2) Click on the "Join" radiobutton and select the first "Feature".EVO. Repeat for each consecutive "Feature".EVO (usually just one more. Almost all HD-DVDs have the main movie comprised of two "Feature" .EVOs
3) Select "BluRay" at the bottom of the window.
4) Click the "Start Muxing" radiobutton

I know this is an old thread, but I'm hoping someone will look in here and maybe help me out.
I am trying to convert my "Anchorman" HD-DVD to blu-ray, figuring then I could also convert to DVD afterwards if I want using BD-RB. But I cannot make it work no matter what. Neither tsMuxer GUI nor Clown-BD nor MultiAVCHD will work. They all cannot seem to see the video and audio in the "Feature" EVOs. I know they are there as the disc plays fine, and when I run the Feature through EVOdemux, it finds & separates out all the video, audio and subtitles just fine. I ripped it to hard disc using DVDFab Passkey with no trouble and have been working from the hard disc files. Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

[rapscallion]

If Evodemux separates them just fine, then why don't you just drag those files into Tsmuxer and join them ?

[Rich86]

If Evodemux separates them just fine, then why don't you just drag those files into Tsmuxer and join them ?

Wouldn't that just get me back to a HD-DVD with AVC video & DD+ audio and not really accomplish anything?

[rapscallion]

NO...select the "Blu-ray" tab at the bottom and the output will be a Blu-ray structure with the feature in M2ts format.
If there is more than one main feature file, just select "join" (below "add" on the right hand side of the "input" screen.) when you add the 2nd file (or however many)

ie You've now converted HD-DVD to BD.

[Rich86]

NO...select the "Blu-ray" tab at the bottom and the output will be a Blu-ray structure with the feature in M2ts format.
If there is more than one main feature file, just select "join" (below "add" on the right hand side of the "input" screen.) when you add the 2nd file (or however many)

ie You've now converted HD-DVD to BD.

I very much appreciate you jumping in to try to help me with this.
The file types in the folder output from evodemux are: mpv (video), mpa (audio) & sup (subtitles). I can add the mpv file ok in tsmuxer gui, but get a "can't detect stream type" error when I try to add any of the audio or subtitle files from the directory. Clown-BD throws similar errors when I try to process this HD-DVD through it.

eac3to v3.24
1) -progressnumbers -LOG="C:\Temp\LOGS\eac3to_PASS2_LOG.LOG"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 6 subtitle tracks, 1:37:16
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 20 chapters with names
3: Subtitle (DVD), English
4: Subtitle (DVD), English, "SDH"
5: Subtitle (DVD), French
6: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish
7: Subtitle (DVD), Portuguese
8: Subtitle (DVD), French, "FR forced"
The source file doesn't contain any video/audio tracks. <ERROR>

Is this a missing codec(s) issue maybe?
This is also a Win7Pro/64 machine, in case that has anything to do with it.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Hi!

1) What are the FULL 8.3 names and filesizes of the "Feature" files you are trying to process?

2) What version number of "tsMuxer GUI" are you using? - S/B 1.10.6

3) It is "tsMuxer GUI" you're using and not "tsRemux", isn't it?

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Hi!

1) What are the FULL 8.3 names and filesizes of the "Feature" files you are trying to process?

2) What version number of "tsMuxer GUI" are you using? - S/B 1.10.6

3) It is "tsMuxer GUI" you're using and not "tsRemux", isn't it?

1. see attached .jpg (AnchormanEVODemuxed) (well, NOT - this bloody site won't let me upload an image for some reason - says it isn't a valid image - 63kb .jpg?).
maybe someone can give me a clue about posting images?
2. yes - 1.10.6
3. yes - tsMuxeR GUI 1.10.6

[setarip_old]

It's only a couple of files ("Feature")- enter them here manually.

BTW - What software and procedures did you use to first decrypt the HD-DVD, before trying to convert the "movie-only"?

[Rich86]

It's only a couple of files ("Feature")- enter them here manually.

BTW - What software and procedures did you use to first decrypt the HD-DVD, before trying to convert the "movie-only"?

Sorry - I thought you wanted the files after being demuxed, which are quite a few . .

FEATURE_1.EVO 9841740
FEATURE_2.EVO 9828640

I use DVDFAB Passkey - copy to hard drive.

Also note that I cannot get this computer to play the files or disc either (trying to use an old PowerDVD 7 Ultra) - maybe it's a Windows 7 issue? But they ripped perfectly fine, so the disc is fine?

Maybe I should roll the whole mess over to an older WinXP box and try there?

[setarip_old]

I could be mistaken, but I don't believe Passkey can be used for ripping HD-DVDs. Your copied files may still be encrypted.

Try using (as you likely do for BD-RB) either AnyDVDHD or DVDFabHD Decrypter...

[Rich86]

I could be mistaken, but I don't believe Passkey can be used for ripping HD-DVDs. Your copied files may still be encrypted.

Try using (as you likely do for BD-RB) either AnyDVDHD or DVDFabHD Decrypter...

No, it looks like Passkey does handle HD-DVD - based on info in their forum + the HD-DVD setup tab info in Passkey.
I'm going to try a different HD-DVD and see if it is something specific to this title maybe? If that yields nothing, I'll move the drive over to the older WinXP box and experiment there. More info to come . . .
Update: a different title (Batman Begins) is no better. Will move drive, etc. to the older WinXP box tomorrow for testing.
Update: working on the WinXP box now - I think setarip_old may be correct about DVDFab Passkey not properly decrypting this HD-DVD. I'm testing with both Passkey & AnyDVDHD today . . more info to come . .

[Rich86]

NO...select the "Blu-ray" tab at the bottom and the output will be a Blu-ray structure with the feature in M2ts format.
If there is more than one main feature file, just select "join" (below "add" on the right hand side of the "input" screen.) when you add the 2nd file (or however many)

ie You've now converted HD-DVD to BD.

These are probably pretty basic questions - but be patient with someone not familiar with this process please.
Once I have demuxed the main feature .evo to hard disc, I end up with 1 video file (the program seems to combine both of the Feature.evo files on its own), + a number of audio and sub-title files. When I use tsmuxer gui to remux & convert, do I "add" all these files or "join" these files?
Update: it appears setarip_old is absolutely correct . . in spite of Passkey appearing to support HD-DVD, I expect it doesn't, as the files ripped via AnyDVDHD are working under WinXP (haven't tried them on the Win7Pro64 box), whereas the files from a Passkey rip do not work on either machine.
Update: tsmuxer gui - adding the audio files seems to work, but it doesn't want to take the subtitles. The output of tsmuxer gui looks fine (BD format audio + video) except no subtitles.
Update: trying Clown_BD now also on the WinXP box. it appears to be happy with the video, audio and subtitle files, but we'll see . . .
Success! Clown_BD processed the ripped HD-DVD title just fine & created a fine looking BD format movie (1 multi channel DD audio + 2 english subtitles).
And now BD-RB has created a DVD-5 of that BD structure.
I posted a comment on the DVDFab forum about the Passkey problem with HD-DVD. Hopefully a DVDFab technician will see it and look into it.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Glad to hear that our suggestions helped resolve your dilemma ;>}

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Glasd to hear that our suggestions helped resolve your dilemma ;>}

Yes - many thanks!:)