Undersizing or correct?

[lucamark]

Hi,
I'm using dvdrb v. 1.26.5 with ccesp2. In some case (Carlito's way and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End) the final size is less than expected (4,1 Gb for both). I expect the final size around 4.4 -4.5 Gb. I set Enable Bitrate Redistribution, Apply Redistribution to all Vtss (series) and Always use HC for Redistribution Pass. I tried to set CCETargetSectors=2254438 option in dvdrb.ini and the final size is 4.5 GB. But this option gave me (with others movie) an iso file too large. I'm not sure what is wrong (if there is really anything). Is there a setting i need to change to correct this?
Thank you for any suggestion!!!

P.s. Sorry for my bad English!!!

Here's my log:

[22.23.43] One Click encoding activated...
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[22.23.43] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.26.5
- AVISYNTH 2.5.8.0
- CCE 1.0.0.18 encoder selected.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- Source: PDC_3_LMDFF
- VTS_01: 3.058.017 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 242.397 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 70,3%
- Overall Bitrate : 3.286Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.888.862KB
- Analyzing VTS_01 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):1.973.596
-- Sampling 2424 of 242397 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3,1: 2.903.566
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,5: 2.219.489
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=5,0: 1.914.019
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,8: 2.036.431
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,9: 1.972.839
- CQ Value selected: 4,9
- Redistributing using Final_Q: 49
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4.705/1.710/3.286 Kbs
[22.36.50] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 13 minutes.
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- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 28
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[23.45.35] Phase II ENCODING completed in 69 minutes.
[23.45.35] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
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- Rebuilding seg 29 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
- Building ISO Image...
- ISO Image successfully created.
[23.58.20] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 13 minutes.


And here's my rebuilder.ini:

[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=0
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=0
HC_Quality=3
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
AudioDub=1
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=PDC_3_LMDFF
DVD_Name=PDC_3_LMDFF.ISO
MovieOnly=1
HalfD1=00
Convert_16_9=00
DisableInterlace=00
ConvertToYUY2=1
Skin=Teck Original
CCE=4
ISO_Output=1
ImgBurnWrite=0
ISO_Delete_Option=0
Decrypter_Write=0
Delete_Image_Option=0
Completed=63
HC_VBR_Bias=20
Redistribute=1
Redist_All=1
Encode_Menus=1
ClineQuality=2
HC_FOR_REDIST=1
HC_LUMGAIN=0
HC_OPV=0
Backcolor=14737632
REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q=1
ForceEncode=0

[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Programmi\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Programmi\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ReJig\ReJig.exe
HC=C:\Programmi\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\HC Encoder\HCbatch.EXE
FFMPEG=C:\Programmi\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\FFMpeg\ffmpeg.exe
ProCoder=C:\Programmi\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\EclPro\EclPro.exe
DECOMB=C:\Programmi\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
NICAUDIO=C:\Programmi\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\nicaudio.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Programmi\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=G:\_DVD-RB_TEMP\
Output=I:\_DVD-RB_OUT\
CCE250=C:\Programmi\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder SP2\ccew.exe
CCENEW=C:\Programmi\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder SP\cctsp.exe
Source=H:\PDC_3_LMDFF\VIDEO_TS\
[Audio]
Selected=1
Remapping=
[Subpictures]
Selected=11
[Setup]
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
Languages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=15
eclPasses=3
OPV=0

[jdobbs]

Typically that means there is some degree of encoder saturation. Actually its a good thing, it indicates the quality is very high and the encoder doesn't want to waste extra bits. You find that fairly often in "movie-only" encodes.

[Boulder]

Try choosing a high-bitrate matrix and see what happens then. The encoder default is probably MPEG standard which is not for high bitrates.

[rhymesrip]

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End's main title has like 10 or so "blank" cells at the begining, maybe that caused the undersizing, i dont know about carlito's way tho

remove the 10-20ms long cells with pgcedit and clean the titleset with FixVTS
then try to re-encode the dvd again

[jdobbs]

I really don't think 300MB is enough to worry about. It won't make an appreciable difference in the quality of the output.

[lucamark]

I really don't think 300MB is enough to worry about. It won't make an appreciable difference in the quality of the output.

In fact, Carlito's Way and Pirates of the Caribbean seems to be perfect. After some testing there aren't considerable difference between final size 4.1 and 4.5 GB...
Thank you very much!!!