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Quatre
28th December 2007, 06:19
i have a wired connection but i prefer ext. hdd and not leaving the pc on. if its already on for something maybe. and i dont think it works just having it connected as it is. you have to add the file to the library of a program like wmp, or red kawa or tversity, all of which are annoying.

its not like streaming will give you ff/rw. it will just eliminate the splitting of files neccesary for fat32. ps3 should be able to read hfs+ file system (whic ipods use) as 360 can, but sony is stupid.

3r1c
28th December 2007, 06:39
i use tversity, all you have to do is add a folder in tversity, then when you add a new file to that folder just refresh tversity, its only 2 clicks.
you can also copy to the ps3 internal hdd over network (i havent tried this but i see others done it)

you could also buy a bluray burner and a rewritable disc, then you have 25gb on ufs.

Quatre
28th December 2007, 07:04
maybe i'll give tversity a try again, but i didnt like it and i dont liek streaming but yeah i'd try transfering to the ps3 internal with it maybe.

Quatre
28th December 2007, 07:52
my ps3 doenst' see tversity only wmp.

edit:

ok i got it. seems to work but doesn't show the proper info for the file. ie. says 0x0 resolution. maybe once copied to the ps3 internal. may just do that from now on to avoid the painful step of splitting the file and get more compatability and be able to hit yes to auto detect if transcode is neccesary. just copy the file to the ps3 internal.

may want to get a larger 2.5" sata for inside the ps3 now. will still maybe use the fat32 ext hdd for single files <4gb and for avchd camcorder footage etc. but yeah it seems for larger files, that it would be quicker to just add the file to tversity library, turn on the ps3 and use tversity mediaserver to copy the file to ps3 hdd and done for later viewing at any time. overall its prob quicker then splitting the files, mux each file, copy to fat32 hdd.

3r1c
28th December 2007, 09:03
yeah it always says 0x0 resolution it doesnt matter.
just make sure you have transcoding set to never in tversity (settings->transcoder)

Quatre
28th December 2007, 09:12
k thanks, working good so far. saves time splitting and works better with your prog :)

will just get new 2.5" sata soon.

spida_singh
28th December 2007, 11:05
I have just tried a 1080p dts mkv file, everything looked to be ok, clicked yes to transcoding. But output file was only 253MB? Any ideas?

Regards

Quatre
28th December 2007, 11:22
that happened to me once i think. someting didnt work. i'm doing a 1080p dts mkv now and its taking ages, so i know its transcoding. if wht 3rl1c says is true about "99% of 1080p arent valid level 4.1 encodes, which will need to be transcoded."

then its almost not worth getting the 1080p version let alone dts and what problems that causes or maybe the dts was just a problem to split.

ugh, this 1080p dts mkv is taking forever. I guess it had to transcode, i'm afraid its stuck in an infinite loop or is it supposed to take hours like this? if it has to transcode is it the same as encoding? like an mkv to wmv? if thats teh case then i mine as well have done wmv then so at least i could have ff/rw.

i guess really going to have to try to stick to 720p and pref ac3 i guess from now on. :\

msbear
28th December 2007, 21:51
Any idea to create the vob file with subtitles?? (from a srt subtitle file).

buzzqw
28th December 2007, 22:29
external subtitle are played by ps3, you must BURN it in video

BHH

msbear
28th December 2007, 22:40
How i can do that please??

I tried to find a way to play the srt subtitles in Tversity, but i dont know how to make the vob file use ffdshow to display the subtitles......

buzzqw
29th December 2007, 08:05
in ffdshow set "raw video" to "all supported"
launch media player classic and open your vobs, this will trigger ffdshow
in subtitle option (on ffdshow) select your subs

i don't use ffdshow for subtitle.. or tversity.. so my help is quite limited.. sorry

BHH

Quatre
29th December 2007, 10:26
yeah it always says 0x0 resolution it doesnt matter.
just make sure you have transcoding set to never in tversity (settings->transcoder)

once its transferred to the ps3 hdd though it shows all the info including resolution.

btw, when mkv2vob detects that the mkv needs to be transcoded to play on ps3 and makes an mpeg-2, yes it takes a lot longer, i think it was like 2-3hrs for a 1080p movie, but...

FF/RW works! so that is almost worth the extra time. So, I will prob go for 1080p first choice just for the higher res, even though i think you said 99% of 1080p mkv will need to be transcoded. yes the other catch is the 50% larger file size but again its almost worth teh FF/RW.

so its great that mkv2vob auto detects. now i'm not going to kill myself trying to get one version or another, if i get the 720p that doesnt need transcode i'll just appreciate the fast remux and smaller file size, and if its a 1080p and needs to be transcoded, i'll suck up the extra time to do so and the larger file size for the higher res and the FF/RW.

good stuff.

AcuraKidd
29th December 2007, 16:52
It's great that you were able to solve your problem, but I still cant play my MKV's due to the fact that mkv2vob always comes up with an error saying "Unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC"

I already tried to demux the video and then remux it with yamb into an mp4 file, but it still doesn't work... :(

Quatre
29th December 2007, 21:35
i would just try a different version release of your content then at this point. I haven't found an x264 yet that either mkv2vob or GotSent couldn't mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2.

3r1c
30th December 2007, 02:01
where did you get mkv with aac audio?
its not scene standards.

MrAngles
30th December 2007, 08:11
This might be weird but how do I demux the audio and video from a vob I made with mkv2vob? I don't have the original mkv and I want to convert the audio to aac and remux it to a mp4.

busta.rhymes
30th December 2007, 12:53
If I understood right. Now I can make an mpeg2 file? and it supports rewinding and fastforwarding? How can I force him to transcode?

alexmae
30th December 2007, 13:18
hi all :)

i can't download from the first page, it always gives me the 404 error. Can somebody make a mirror of the latest file?

Thanks:)

Quatre
30th December 2007, 14:09
If I understood right. Now I can make an mpeg2 file? and it supports rewinding and fastforwarding? How can I force him to transcode?

yes mpeg-2 has ff/rw. i dont think you can force mkv2vob to transcode. it just auto detects if you hit yes and if it needs it , it will do it.

try a diff prog that transcodes mkv to mpeg-2 every time then. but it takes a few hours where as remux to vob is minutes.

busta.rhymes
30th December 2007, 15:17
Which programm could I use for that?

bgbop15
30th December 2007, 20:55
here's one i havent found... how do you guys burn files to a disc for the PS3? For the 360, i use either dvd-r or +r, using imgburn and the UDF format.

I tried this with a bunch of .mp4 files for the ps3, and it did not read, as if I didnt even put the dvd in the drive

is the ps3 picky about this or what?

3r1c
31st December 2007, 01:08
i dont know about imgburn but discs made with nero express work fine on default settings.

AcuraKidd
31st December 2007, 03:07
and from my experience, Nero doesn't support burning mkv files, so im STILL screwed...

3r1c
31st December 2007, 04:03
What? nero doesnt limit or care what type of files you burn.
It will burn any files which are on your hd.

AcuraKidd
31st December 2007, 05:07
I tried burning a mkv to a dvd and used nero vision 4, and when i tried adding the file, it said it was anable to add the mkv file.

3r1c
31st December 2007, 09:04
dont use nero vision, use nero express and select dvd data disc. just drag and drop files.

not with mkv files, those wont play on ps3 without conversion to mp4 or vob.

convert the file first, then burn the vob or mp4 with nero express.

busta.rhymes
31st December 2007, 11:53
Which programm can i use to explicitly convert mkv to mpeg2 wich supports fast forwarding and ac3?

survivant001
31st December 2007, 13:54
Which programm can i use to explicitly convert mkv to mpeg2 wich supports fast forwarding and ac3?

there is Adobe Encore CS3

survivant001
31st December 2007, 16:39
@3r1c

it is possible to add a normalized audio step in the process ?

I watched a movie yesterday and the voice in the center speaker wasn't loud enough.. couldn't here the dialogue :(

thanks

buzzqw
31st December 2007, 17:23
since the audio is copied .. it isn't possible.

this application have some serius potential.. but lack of support to wide audio codecs..

i think will be easy to add a option to transcode audio from aac (for example) to ac3, and so correctly muxing in vob

like this
ffmpeg.exe -i test.mkv -ac 6 -vn -acodec ac3 -ab 448000 -f ac3 -y audio.ac3

BHH

SCSI
31st December 2007, 20:17
The audio volume of the muxed vob file is much lower than the original mkv file. Does anyone know how to keep the original volume?

FYI, the mkv that I tried to convert to vob has DTS.

3r1c
31st December 2007, 21:21
The audio volume of the muxed vob file is much lower than the original mkv file. Does anyone know how to keep the original volume?

FYI, the mkv that I tried to convert to vob has DTS.

Im curious how you are able to determine this since the DTS would be unplayable on the ps3, so you have nothing to compare it to?!

If you are playing on a pc this is not supported.

SCSI
31st December 2007, 22:10
The MKV that I converted has a DTS soundtrack which your application converted to AC3. The VOB output has AC3 and didn't have DTS.

Happy new year:)

B4tm4n
1st January 2008, 02:46
Which programm can i use to explicitly convert mkv to mpeg2 wich supports fast forwarding and ac3?
http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/

3r1c
1st January 2008, 04:53
The MKV that I converted has a DTS soundtrack which your application converted to AC3. The VOB output has AC3 and didn't have DTS.

Happy new year:)

Yeah I already know that, that doesnt answer the question.

The volume is not changed, and since you cant play the DTS what makes you think its changed? ie. your comparing the low volume in AC3 to what exactly? the complete silence of unplayable DTS?

Different movies and shows are encoded in different volume, i have to change the volume on my tv depending on the channel/movie etc.. its nothing unusual.
Just higher your volume if its too low.

pjclay27
1st January 2008, 06:35
I just had a quick question about GotSent. First, I would like to thank the developer of mkv2vob. I started out using it and it worked great. The only reason I haven't used it much was because converting to vob meant I had to use a lot of DL discs. I used GotSent because it converted to MP4 and I don't have a surround sound system and I was able to fit most movies on 1 DVD-R. The problem I am having is one of the files I converted to mp4 would burn succesfully on disc but when I played it in PS3 it would say corrupted data. I used Nero Express and Data DVD and was below the limit for disc capacity. I thought it must have been a bad file but I used GotSent the second time and split it two discs and burned one and it played fine. Has anyone else had this problem?

3r1c
1st January 2008, 07:17
this is because gotsent doesnt do any detection of unplayable files. not all h264 files are playable on ps3, only ones which are level 4.1 and below. a small number of 720p and most 1080p are not playable and needs to be transcoded.

pjclay27
1st January 2008, 07:31
Why would the file not work when I put it on one DVD-R but when I split the mkv into two files and then burned it worked? Also does mkv2vob do mp4 conversion or vob only?

pjclay27
1st January 2008, 09:01
to rephrase my last post, i take the mkv and use gotsent to convert to mp4. i try burning on dvd-r and ps3 shows it as corrupted data. i tried again with gotsent but this time i split into two files to convert to mp4. this second process works on ps3. why would the same mp4 work on splitting but not on single dvd-r?

3r1c
1st January 2008, 15:38
Your in the wrong thread, this thread isnt anything to do with gotsent.

andres_lol
2nd January 2008, 15:18
3r1c there is any way to see subtitles??? embebed or external in srt format??
:thanks:

georgem67
2nd January 2008, 20:44
Does anyone know how to change 1080p mkv to 720p mkv
thanks

Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2008, 21:00
Without re-encoding not possible

georgem67
2nd January 2008, 23:23
How do you re-encode the 1080p mkv ( V_MPEG4 ) to a 1280 x 528 resolution??

Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2008, 23:38
RipBot264 :)

survivant001
3rd January 2008, 02:33
liek Atak_Snajpera said : ripbot264 or you have automkv too. Depends of what you want to do.

Numer0bis
4th January 2008, 00:56
this is because gotsent doesnt do any detection of unplayable files. not all h264 files are playable on ps3, only ones which are level 4.1 and below. a small number of 720p and most 1080p are not playable and needs to be transcoded.

I've used to extract h264 streams from mkv files and encoded the ac3 audio to aac and put everything into mp4 with yamb. Some worked and some didn't. Is my assumption correct that this had only to do with the supported avc level. If I change the level to 4.1 with h264info most of the streams should work even with mp4. Because I really like mkv2vob but sometimes I really do love to seek and the ps3 just won't seek with vob files. (Most were 720p not 1080p)

Greetz

Numer0bis

3r1c
4th January 2008, 01:14
changing the level with h264info only works if the level is set wrong at encoding time (ie. whoever encoded it doesnt know how to use x264 properly), but if the properties of the video actually require a level higher then 4.1 then changing the level doesnt help and there is no way to make that video play except transcoding.

pjclay27
4th January 2008, 07:01
Just had a a few questions about mkv2vob. First to be able to split mkv and have vob fit on DVD-R i need to split around the 2.5GB mark? Also, I need to select yes for auto transcoding on first split file and if no transcoding is done click no on the second file? Also, how do I get mkv2vob remux to vob every time. I read where it only takes minutes. Every time I load mkv file and hit yes to auto transcoding it takes a lot longer.

3r1c
4th January 2008, 07:37
if your file needs transcoding there is no way around it, this is done because the file is not encoded at level 4.1

wherever possible the file is remuxed with no transcoding.

pjclay27
4th January 2008, 07:57
That's no problem with the transcoding if needed. Also, as far as selecting yes for auto transcoding on the first split file, what do I need to look for to see if it's transcoding. Also, with my previous post, is 2.5GB a good setting for split file?

3r1c
4th January 2008, 09:10
2.5gb should be ok, but really its just a guess, the movie is transcoded at vbr with no bitrate limit, so if its an action movie will probably be bigger. really this program was created with streaming in mind, not fat or disc storage.

i will consider putting a split option in the next version

you need to watch if the h264info window opens, if it opens then there is no transcoding.

pjclay27
4th January 2008, 09:25
Thanks for the response and for the software. I will test with the 2.5GB range. The only mkv's I use are 720p with AC3.

D1E
4th January 2008, 14:40
3r1c: thank you for this AWESOME application - it works fantastically well for me!

If I could make a single request however, it would be to add a batch mode (if possible). It would be great to queue up a directory of files to convert from .mkv to .vob and leave my PC unattended overnight to find the process complete!

Thank you!

jamos
6th January 2008, 15:55
http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/

I do not think that program supports AC3 output it converts it to aac stereo.

jamos
6th January 2008, 18:22
2.5gb should be ok, but really its just a guess, the movie is transcoded at vbr with no bitrate limit, so if its an action movie will probably be bigger. really this program was created with streaming in mind, not fat or disc storage.

i will consider putting a split option in the next version

you need to watch if the h264info window opens, if it opens then there is no transcoding.


also if it is not to hard to do can you put in a force transcoding option to mpeg2. I know it takes more space and is slower but I would rather have a file i can ff/rw.

Awesome app man!

georgem67
6th January 2008, 23:26
I have tried this file but the video is unplayable...the sound is ok. Any ideas?

(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska at 5
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type version: 1 at 16
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type read version: 1 at 20
(MKVInfo) + Segment, size 4467102126 at 24
(MKVInfo) |+ Seek head at 36
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 41
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) at 44
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4099 at 51
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 56
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) at 59
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4261 at 66
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 71
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x11 0x4d 0x9b 0x74 (KaxSeekHead) at 74
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467048011 at 81
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 89
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) at 92
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467017403 at 99
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025) at 107
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment information at 4135
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1000000 at 4141
(MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 at 4148
(MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07 at 4186
(MKVInfo) | + Duration: 5625.040s (01:33:45.040000000) at 4260
(MKVInfo) | + Date: Sun Jan 06 22:29:30 2008 UTC at 4267
(MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0x84 0x63 0x5a 0x77 0xde 0xb4 0xd8 0x55 0x9a 0x81 0xac 0xf4 0xaa 0xc6 0x2d 0xad at 4278
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks at 4297
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4303
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 at 4306
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 1 at 4309
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: video at 4313
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4316
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4319
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4322
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4326
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 at 4329
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4333
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4341
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC at 4345
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4362
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 132 at 4365
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 40.000ms (25.000 fps for a video track) at 4501
(MKVInfo) | + Language: eng at 4509
(MKVInfo) | + Video track at 4516
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 1280 at 4518
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 528 at 4522
(MKVInfo) | + Interlaced: 0 at 4526
(MKVInfo) | + Display width: 80 at 4529
(MKVInfo) | + Display height: 33 at 4533
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4537
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 at 4539
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 152902803 at 4542
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio at 4549
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4552
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4555
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4558
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 1 at 4562
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4565
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4569
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4577
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_DTS at 4581
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4588
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4591
(MKVInfo) | + Audio track at 4598
(MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000 at 4600
(MKVInfo) | + Channels: 6 at 4606
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024) at 4609
(MKVInfo) |+ Cluster at 5636

Cheers

Atak_Snajpera
7th January 2008, 00:45
DTS audio is not supported

fredward
7th January 2008, 02:30
I am having issues with 720p mkv files with DTS. I use the mkv to vob tool and I usually never have any issues with it until now. I downloaded a mkv file with DTS on it and its suppose to change it to AC3. Every time it is Transcoding I keep getting (Error unable to create WAV to AC3) Any solutions on this? This is on every mkv file that has DTS in it.

jamos
7th January 2008, 02:34
I am having issues with 720p mkv files with DTS. I use the mkv to vob tool and I usually never have any issues with it until now. I downloaded a mkv file with DTS on it and its suppose to change it to AC3. Every time it is Transcoding I keep getting (Error unable to create WAV to AC3) Any solutions on this? This is on every mkv file that has DTS in it.

I have not tried a dts file in 1.3 yet. It worked in 1.2 i know.

fredward
7th January 2008, 02:38
Where can i get the 1.2?

fredward
7th January 2008, 02:41
never mind, I got it. I just did it and still does the same thing. Any other solutions on this? Seems like the majority of mkv videos are DTS for some reason.

Quatre
7th January 2008, 03:37
@3r1c

it is possible to add a normalized audio step in the process ?

I watched a movie yesterday and the voice in the center speaker wasn't loud enough.. couldn't here the dialogue :(

thanks

i noticed this on a couple mkv. I dont know if the orig mkv was like that or if its something that happens during the remux, but everything else was louder then the center speaker dialogue. I had to manually turn up my center speaker to better here the talking where as usually the dialog and center speaker are often the loudest.

jamos
7th January 2008, 03:45
if your file needs transcoding there is no way around it, this is done because the file is not encoded at level 4.1

wherever possible the file is remuxed with no transcoding.

hey 3r can you give us the command line that you use to transcode to mpeg2? I can do most of this manually but am having issues with that one. I assume you are using ffmpeg to do this but am struggling with the options.

thanks for any help.

Quatre
7th January 2008, 04:23
I just wanted to reiterate what has worked for me. Originally I was set on playing from a fat32 ext. hdd as that is my preferred method with the 360 and wmv files. But the 360 can read from hfs+ formatted ext. hdd which doesnt have the 4gb file limit like fat32.

So, I started to realize maybe it wasn't the best method for playback on ps3 as the whole point of mkv2vob was a quick remux of mkv for compatible playback on ps3, but splitting the file took an extra step and time.

Using TVersity to let the ps3 see the file on your pc and then just copy it onto the ps3 internal hdd seems to be the best. I do it once just like transferring from pc to an ext. hdd and then i dont have to leave pc on to stream as the video file(s) are there on the ps3.

Now, as far as some mkv needed transcoding and others not, I loved how mkv2vob auto detects that for you and does what it needs to do. I can't understand ppl wasting media burning discs on files they aren't sure will work made from other programs wile mkv2vob ensures it will by autodetecting.

I just want to add that I think optical media is already kind of dated and will eventually be phased out by more and cheaper solid state options (hdd and memory cards etc.).

Now, my attitude with the mkv's and ps3 was that I would just usually go for the 1080p version if that was available, because I want the higher resolution. Its been said that the majority (i think 99% is quoted) of 1080p need to be transcoded, yes this takes longer and takes away a little from one of the main draws of this program of a quick remux of mkv to something compatible with ps3.

But I will say for a fact that it is 10x quicker then encoding an mkv to wmv. And yes it makes the file size larger, but again if you are using hdd then this doesnt matter as much. I've said before basically I just go with whatever mkv2vob needs to do, if it transcodes (to mpeg-2) cus its 1080p, I suck up the transcode time and the larger file size for the benefit of the higher res and the full ff/rw controls. Its more then worth it and thats probably my preference.

For the 720p stuff that can be remuxed to .vob (avc), I just appreciate the super fast remuxing and smaller file size at the sacrifice of no ff/rw controls.

But again my preference is 1080p transcoded to mpeg-2 because I dont mind the transcoding time (again its way way quicker then encoding to wmv) nor does the larger file size scare me. Now I will say that if doing a lot of 1080p that need to be transcoded and using the method of copying the file to the ps3 hdd then unless you dont have much on there (60gb) and just put like 3 movies at a time then remove them off there after you watch, you will prob want to upgrade the 2.5" sata in the ps3 which is no problem.

I'm looking into doing that but wanted to get a good price on the largest possible which is 320gb and wanted to make sure the ps3 can make full use of a 320gb 2.5" sata and didn't have a 250gb limit or something.

The only thing i'm thinking now with the 720p stuff that can be remuxed is that being there is no ff/rw, it may be worth splitting the file so at least you can watch half then the other half or whatever later and worst comes to worst if you have to start the clip over and do the slow 1.5 ff to get to where you left off (since it doesnt support resume either) then at least if your file is split you dont have as much to go through i dunno. So I figured maybe I will do the 720p remuxed vob stuff split and on fat32 again after all.

The only thing is, i still haven't heard of a prog that will split the finished .vob (already remuxed from mkv) into 3.99gb or smaller parts. So id have to just assume that most all 720p mkv were fine to be remuxed for ps3 and just split the mkv first then make a .vob of each split file using mkv2vob and selecting no to autodetect/transcode. that wasy the 720p stuff that can be remuxed and doesnt have ff/rw controls can go on the fat32 ext hdd and save room on the ps3 internal for the large transcoded mpeg-2's.

But that is extra work and defeats the purpose a little of the remux being quick, so I as someone else mentioned may also be interested in a program that just transcodes the mkv to mpeg-2 every time. Again I dont mind the time it takes so much to transcode nor the large file size as these days with a baby and coordinating watchign stuff with my wife, it seems the ability to resume where I left off plus full ff/rw etc. controls is vital.

I know some say, if your going to watch a movie then just watch it straight through. I feel the same way but when the wife falls asleep in the middle of the movie, even if i continue watching then for her to resume means she will have to ff at 1.5x (which is all the .vob's allow) which is really slow and is just like slightly faster talking etc. Its just not a very reasonable way to have to resume.

I just think the ability to resume and ff/rw is going to be more and more important to more ppl and the lack there of takes away from the usefullness of the quick remux. I think everyone is clear that it is the ps3's fault and not mkv2vob or any other program.

But, 3rlc, might I suggest maybe making an option in future version of mkv2vob to force transcode even if the file doesnt' neccesarily need it for playback on ps3. I mean the autodetect is great, only doing it if it needs it to play on ps3, where as ppl are using other progs like GotSent which doesnt have ps3 in mind and you can end up with a file that wont play on ps3 (especially wateful for ppl putting on discs) mkv2vob ensures you will have a file that is compatible on ps3.

But yeah maybe there should be 2 options. 1. Auto detect, transcoding only if neccesary. and 2. Force transcode no matter what.

I would think that would be all thats needed because why would anyone using this prog for ps3 playback (which is what it is made for) need to turn off auto detect, because if they make a.vob of a mkv that needed to be transcoded to play on ps3 well then they have a useless file.

Again I'm slightly torn between just remuxing to vob for the 720p stuff that doesn't need to transcoded and just splitting the file up for fat32 to make resuming or watching in parts a little easier and free up my ps3 internal hdd space for 1080p transcoded mpeg-2's but thats ultimately maybe not even worth it to have a split file with no ff/rw. unless i really did it multiple parts to ensure resuming is easier but thast more work and too many files and i'm still not sure if ps3 can play one after another from an ext. hdd like it does off an ext. fat32 hdd camcorder (though it prob does as its the same thing).

The problem with the .vob's with no resume or ff/rw is then when the wmv comes out (usually not too long after the x264 mkv) I end up just getting that if the version i currently have is a remuxed vob with no ff/rw which is then a waste that I got it in the first place and especially if split the file and all.

But if I have a 1080p mkv transcoded to mpeg-2 able to be copied to my ps3 itnernal and played anytime with pc off, then I wouldn't bother getting the WMV version, especially since most wmv releases are 720p (usually for the reason of fitting on dvd9). The only reason to ditch my mkv transcoded to mpeg-2 and get the wmv if the wmv is also 1080p would be for the smaller file size but that is kind of less important and as long as my mkv transcoded to mpeg-2 has the same resume, ff/rw controls as the wmv then I'd really have no good reason to reget something I already took the time to get and transcode etc. just for a diff file type.

so yes again, formal request here, as I saw someone else mention it also, to have an option in mkv2vob to force transcode (to mpeg-2 i guess is the only compatible choice) even for 720p mkv that dont neccesarily need it to play on ps3. For the ppl with kids and wives etc. or just really want/need resume, ff and rw etc.

thanks and sorry for long post

Quatre
7th January 2008, 06:19
for some mkv's (tv eps if it matters) i'm getting an error when i try torun mkv2vob on it that says 'Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC'

i think I showed that one before but what does it mean and what can i do to it to get it to play on ps3 or 360? the MS in there is microsoft? in what prog can i look at this file to see exactly what it is so I know what type of prog to use on it to transcode or remux it?

georgem67
7th January 2008, 16:17
I have tried this file but the video is unplayable...the sound is ok. Any ideas?

(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska at 5
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type version: 1 at 16
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type read version: 1 at 20
(MKVInfo) + Segment, size 4467102126 at 24
(MKVInfo) |+ Seek head at 36
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 41
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) at 44
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4099 at 51
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 56
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) at 59
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4261 at 66
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 71
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x11 0x4d 0x9b 0x74 (KaxSeekHead) at 74
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467048011 at 81
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 89
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) at 92
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467017403 at 99
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025) at 107
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment information at 4135
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1000000 at 4141
(MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 at 4148
(MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07 at 4186
(MKVInfo) | + Duration: 5625.040s (01:33:45.040000000) at 4260
(MKVInfo) | + Date: Sun Jan 06 22:29:30 2008 UTC at 4267
(MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0x84 0x63 0x5a 0x77 0xde 0xb4 0xd8 0x55 0x9a 0x81 0xac 0xf4 0xaa 0xc6 0x2d 0xad at 4278
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks at 4297
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4303
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 at 4306
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 1 at 4309
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: video at 4313
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4316
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4319
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4322
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4326
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 at 4329
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4333
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4341
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC at 4345
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4362
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 132 at 4365
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 40.000ms (25.000 fps for a video track) at 4501
(MKVInfo) | + Language: eng at 4509
(MKVInfo) | + Video track at 4516
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 1280 at 4518
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 528 at 4522
(MKVInfo) | + Interlaced: 0 at 4526
(MKVInfo) | + Display width: 80 at 4529
(MKVInfo) | + Display height: 33 at 4533
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4537
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 at 4539
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 152902803 at 4542
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio at 4549
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4552
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4555
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4558
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 1 at 4562
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4565
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4569
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4577
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_DTS at 4581
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4588
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4591
(MKVInfo) | + Audio track at 4598
(MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000 at 4600
(MKVInfo) | + Channels: 6 at 4606
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024) at 4609
(MKVInfo) |+ Cluster at 5636

Cheers

Seems the problem could be that the Video is 25fps...!!!
H264info errors stating that video is not HD.....when the new mkv2vob does make a playable video from this file...the Audio is out of Sync....
Can anybody help on how to re-sync Audio to fit...

Fishingham
7th January 2008, 17:40
I've used to extract h264 streams from mkv files and encoded the ac3 audio to aac and put everything into mp4 with yamb. Some worked and some didn't. Is my assumption correct that this had only to do with the supported avc level. If I change the level to 4.1 with h264info most of the streams should work even with mp4. Because I really like mkv2vob but sometimes I really do love to seek and the ps3 just won't seek with vob files. (Most were 720p not 1080p)

Greetz

Numer0bis

What are you using to convert the AC3 to AAC? Something I would like to try and experiment with, but haven't found an elegant solution that is VISTA happy.

Numer0bis
7th January 2008, 22:01
What are you using to convert the AC3 to AAC? Something I would like to try and experiment with, but haven't found an elegant solution that is VISTA happy.

Well there are several ways of doing this. Either use Besweet with or without belight or do it the easy way: Just use MeGui.

jamos
7th January 2008, 22:26
Seems the problem could be that the Video is 25fps...!!!
H264info errors stating that video is not HD.....when the new mkv2vob does make a playable video from this file...the Audio is out of Sync....
Can anybody help on how to re-sync Audio to fit...

could try to do the steps that mkv2vob does manually. It is pretty easy. All the executables are in the tools sub-directory.

first use command line to use mkvextract the mkv into two files (the first will be the video, second the audio).

note: you may have to do a additional step to convert the audio if it is not ac3 but am not sure on how to do that yet but i think you use tranzcode??

then use h264info gui to set the video stream to the 4.1 setting (as you see it do automatically).

then instead of using the default 23.976 that mkv2vob does just do the same ffmpeg command line manually using 25 as the frame rate like below.

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

where video.h264 is your extracted and patched video stream, and audio.ac3 is your audio stream.

georgem67
7th January 2008, 23:47
Thanks...I'll give it a try...
I've actually had a go with changing the fps with mkmerge & now using adobe audition to stretch the audio without changing pitch...It's taking quite a while...but I'll let you know..
Cheers

fonkee1
8th January 2008, 00:18
Thanks...I'll give it a try...
I've actually had a go with changing the fps with mkmerge & now using adobe audition to stretch the audio without changing pitch...It's taking quite a while...but I'll let you know..
Cheers

George,

Are you trying to convert 1080p as well? I have out of sync Audio with my 1080P mkv files as well lately. I have been trying to use AutoMKV and Ripbot264, but they take a looooong time when trying to downconvert 1080p ---> 720P.

Mkv2VOB and Ripbot264 authors should combine forces :eek:

jamos
8th January 2008, 00:53
it looks like it uses tranzcode to extract the dts file into a mux file then besweet to mix it back into ac3 stream. There is a newer version of tranzcode out there, you all may want to expirement with it instead of the one packaged with mkv2vob to see if you get better results with dts conversions.

http://tranzcode.byethost22.com/

3r1c
8th January 2008, 01:12
then instead of using the default 23.976 that mkv2vob does just do the same ffmpeg command line manually using 25 as the frame rate like below.

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

mkv2vob already does this correctly.
this sync issue with 25fps was fixed months ago, make sure to use the latest version.

ignore the h264info error, its because your video height is 528 instead of 720, it doesnt matter.

i would say the problem might have something to do with all those "seek" headers in the mkv.
The a/v might not actually be in sync, the headers are just correcting it.

jamos
8th January 2008, 01:59
mkv2vob already does this correctly.
this sync issue with 25fps was fixed months ago, make sure to use the latest version.

ignore the h264info error, its because your video height is 528 instead of 720, it doesnt matter.

i would say the problem might have something to do with all those "seek" headers in the mkv.
The a/v might not actually be in sync, the headers are just correcting it.

also georg you can use options in besweet to set an audio delay but that means you would have to do all the steps manually including the mux batch for tranzcode stuff. there is a besweet gui out there but I am having issues getting it to work correctly. the beta .40 version of tranzcode seems to also handle ac3 files so you could correct audio sync issue with those too it looks like (though you shouldnt have that issue if your just copying ac3 in ffmpeg). I wouldnt mess with the video as 3r states it is fine.

also 25 fps is pal and 23.976 fps is ntsc.

pjclay27
8th January 2008, 04:19
Just a quick question? If I have a file under 4Gb, which one will allow me to fit on DVD-R, vob or mpeg-2? I read a post here earlier that muxing to vob will increase file size by 50%. Is mpeg-2 smaller? I know this program is designed for streaming files but I prefer putting on discs for PS3. If mpeg-2 file size is smaller than vob it would be nice to have the option to do a force transcode.

jamos
8th January 2008, 04:35
Just a quick question? If I have a file under 4Gb, which one will allow me to fit on DVD-R, vob or mpeg-2? I read a post here earlier that muxing to vob will increase file size by 50%. Is mpeg-2 smaller? I know this program is designed for streaming files but I prefer putting on discs for PS3. If mpeg-2 file size is smaller than vob it would be nice to have the option to do a force transcode.

acutally the mpeg-2 file will be larger by about 50% using the same bitrate.

jamos
8th January 2008, 04:36
DTS audio is not supported

it is transcoded to ac3.

jamos
8th January 2008, 04:55
hey 3r am I doing something wrong here? trying to transcode the video stream to mpeg2. keeps stoping after 4k.

ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec mpeg2video -acodec copy -f vob 310.vob

Quatre
8th January 2008, 07:14
if i get the error "Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC" when trying to use mkv2vob on an mkv, is it possible it is already in a format that plays on the ps3? when i used GotSent on it i saw it said something about it being an avi so maybe i can jsut rename the extension and it will play on ps3?

had an ep today that i used something on it to remux or transcode, i think mkv2vob didnt work on it, i had what seemed like a working file on ps3 but then a little into the show the video slowed down to a crawl for a few min, got normal here and there but then back to super slow or frozen. what is causing this?

What prog can just transcode these into mpeg-2? why is ps3 so frustrating like this? you get files that look like they work when you test only to find that when you go to watch them something happens a few minutes in and makes it unplayable. before this freeze up super slow mo problem i've had video files stop 10 min into the video and say unsupported, i could then ffwd back to that point and play and it would play for another 10 min before stopping and saying the same thing.

it makes it impossilbe to see what isworking and what isn't when you test files, they seem like they are working only to find they dont play in entirety without major problems.

georgem67
8th January 2008, 11:39
mkv2vob already does this correctly.
this sync issue with 25fps was fixed months ago, make sure to use the latest version.

ignore the h264info error, its because your video height is 528 instead of 720, it doesnt matter.

i would say the problem might have something to do with all those "seek" headers in the mkv.
The a/v might not actually be in sync, the headers are just correcting it.

Do I close the h264 error popup when it happens or leave it?
How do I run the command line : ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob when my ffmpeg is here:
C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools
And do I have to give the names of the h264 and ac3 files?
Thanks again
George

georgem67
8th January 2008, 14:21
could try to do the steps that mkv2vob does manually. It is pretty easy. All the executables are in the tools sub-directory.

first use command line to use mkvextract the mkv into two files (the first will be the video, second the audio).

note: you may have to do a additional step to convert the audio if it is not ac3 but am not sure on how to do that yet but i think you use tranzcode??

then use h264info gui to set the video stream to the 4.1 setting (as you see it do automatically).

then instead of using the default 23.976 that mkv2vob does just do the same ffmpeg command line manually using 25 as the frame rate like below.

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

where video.h264 is your extracted and patched video stream, and audio.ac3 is your audio stream.

Use tranzcode to create 6 mono wavs....then I use Softencode to batch create an AC3 file from the 6 wavs....takes around 40mins...go into softencode settings and make the AC3 = 640kbps to get near dts quality.

Could you give me the command line for ffmpeg to create the vob from this info:
My ffmpeg is situated here : C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools
I have put my movie & AC3 file in the same folder...movie is named 'xmen' and audio is 'xmen.audio'

Cheers

jamos
8th January 2008, 14:48
Use tranzcode to create 6 mono wavs....then I use Softencode to batch create an AC3 file from the 6 wavs....takes around 40mins...go into softencode settings and make the AC3 = 640kbps to get near dts quality.

Could you give me the command line for ffmpeg to create the vob from this info:
My ffmpeg is situated here : C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools
I have put my movie & AC3 file in the same folder...movie is named 'xmen' and audio is 'xmen.audio'

Cheers

As 3r already stated his program basically does all this (though it uses tranzcode and besweet to convert dts to ac3).

but if you went that far, then to use ffmpeg you would go to where your files are and type
"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i x.264 -f ac3 -i x.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob x.vob
best to put this in a text batch file to make it easy to edit

where x.264 is your video file and x.ac3 is your audio, and x.vob is your output.

From what I am seeing so far is if mkv2avg transcodes the video is where the audio sync issues seem to come from (ie you hit yes in the popup at the beginning). it seems that ffmpeg when it uses mpeg2video it is messing up the audio probably due to it being out of sync to begin with in the mkv file and the mkv file is using headers to correct it.

best thing that i found for those problem files is just say no to the transcode question and it will not encode to mpeg2, but will still transcode the dts audio to ac3, but even that may not fix your issue. you still may have to transcode the file to mpeg2 and play around with the audio sync options in ffmpeg.

Quatre
8th January 2008, 15:18
well I used mkv2vob and GotSent on a bunhc of mkv tv eps and it made them .vob/.mpg but they only play for 5 min on the ps3 after which point every clip starts freezing going super slow and i see the kbps for audio and video dropping out when i have info up.

to have to play through each one at slow ff 1.5x just to get to between 4-6 minutes to see if it did it on each of 12 eps was a big waste of time whic is basically what video playback on theps3 ends up being.

i'm going strictly transcode to mpeg-2 now and hoping to find a program that does it. found a prog called super but it seems to do too much and more then i need it to in this case. need something simple that just makes an mpeg-2 for ps3 playback with no problems and full ff/rw controls.

georgem67
8th January 2008, 15:36
As 3r already stated his program basically does all this (though it uses tranzcode and besweet to convert dts to ac3).

but if you went that far, then to use ffmpeg you would go to where your files are and type
"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i x.264 -f ac3 -i x.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob x.vob
best to put this in a text batch file to make it easy to edit

where x.264 is your video file and x.ac3 is your audio, and x.vob is your output.

From what I am seeing so far is if mkv2avg transcodes the video is where the audio sync issues seem to come from (ie you hit yes in the popup at the beginning). it seems that ffmpeg when it uses mpeg2video it is messing up the audio probably due to it being out of sync to begin with in the mkv file and the mkv file is using headers to correct it.

best thing that i found for those problem files is just say no to the transcode question and it will not encode to mpeg2, but will still transcode the dts audio to ac3, but even that may not fix your issue. you still may have to transcode the file to mpeg2 and play around with the audio sync options in ffmpeg.

When I run this command it won't work...
I am replacing x.264 with xmen and x.ac3 with xmen.audio
but it will not run...please help!

thanks

Quatre
8th January 2008, 16:13
found a prog called "Super" http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
that seems to do everything including mkv for ps3.

for ps3 setting it seems to just make an .mp4 (h.264/avc video codec) other progs do mkv 2 mp4. i wonder if it mp4 takes longer to conver to from mkv then it would to go mkv to mpeg-2. i guess mpeg-2 is just larger file size but if its quicker conversion its worth it.

Fishingham
8th January 2008, 18:25
Well there are several ways of doing this. Either use Besweet with or without belight or do it the easy way: Just use MeGui.


Thanks.
I tried the Besweet/Belight combination, but it was looking for some outside dll file I didn't have. I'll give MeGui a shot.

jamos
8th January 2008, 18:47
When I run this command it won't work...
I am replacing x.264 with xmen and x.ac3 with xmen.audio
but it will not run...please help!

thanks

what is your error? file not found? if so make sure your path to ffmpeg.exe is correct. also save it in a .bat file in the same directory as your video and audio streams. call it ffm.bat or something and run it.

jamos
8th January 2008, 18:49
found a prog called "Super" http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
that seems to do everything including mkv for ps3.

for ps3 setting it seems to just make an .mp4 (h.264/avc video codec) other progs do mkv 2 mp4. i wonder if it mp4 takes longer to conver to from mkv then it would to go mkv to mpeg-2. i guess mpeg-2 is just larger file size but if its quicker conversion its worth it.


but you lose the ac3 playback as the ps3 doesnt support ac3 in mp4 files from everything ive heard. hence the reason why 3r wrote this program (plus to save time and perserve the original quality of video and audio by just remuxing).

jamos
8th January 2008, 19:05
3r I found that this command line seems to sync up audio from out of sync source mks when using ffmpeg, you may want to play around with it. Seems to fix my issue with a mks that is out of sync after it is transcoded with ffmpeg.


use command line option in the output audio area ffmpeg when transcoding.
-copyts

georgem67
8th January 2008, 19:43
C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg
-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob


deblock .DV.. use strong deblock filter for damaged MBs
-pred <int> E.V.. prediction method
left E.V..
plane E.V..
median E.V..
-aspect <rational> E.V.. sample aspect ratio
-debug <flags> EDVAS print specific debug info
pict .DV.. picture info
rc E.V.. rate control
bitstream .DV..
mb_type .DV.. macroblock (MB) type
qp .DV.. per-block quantization parameter (QP)
mv .DV.. motion vector
dct_coeff .DV..
skip .DV..
startcode .DV..
pts .DV..
er .DV.. error resilience
mmco .DV.. memory management control operations (H.264)
bugs .DV..
vis_qp .DV.. visualize quantization parameter (QP), lower QP
are tinted greener
vis_mb_type .DV.. visualize block types
-vismv <int> .DV.. visualize motion vectors (MVs)
pf .DV.. forward predicted MVs of P-frames
bf .DV.. forward predicted MVs of B-frames
bb .DV.. backward predicted MVs of B-frames
-mb_qmin <int> E.V.. obsolete, use qmin
-mb_qmax <int> E.V.. obsolete, use qmax
-cmp <int> E.V.. full pel me compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-subcmp <int> E.V.. sub pel me compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-mbcmp <int> E.V.. macroblock compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-ildctcmp <int> E.V.. interlaced dct compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-dia_size <int> E.V.. diamond type & size for motion estimation
-last_pred <int> E.V.. amount of motion predictors from the previous f
rame
-preme <int> E.V.. pre motion estimation
-precmp <int> E.V.. pre motion estimation compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-pre_dia_size <int> E.V.. diamond type & size for motion estimation pre-p
ass
-subq <int> E.V.. sub pel motion estimation quality
-me_range <int> E.V.. limit motion vectors range (1023 for DivX playe
r)
-ibias <int> E.V.. intra quant bias
-pbias <int> E.V.. inter quant bias
-coder <int> E.V..
vlc E.V.. variable length coder / huffman coder
ac E.V.. arithmetic coder
raw E.V.. raw (no encoding)
rle E.V.. run-length coder
deflate E.V.. deflate-based coder
-context <int> E.V.. context model
-mbd <int> E.V.. macroblock decision algorithm (high quality mod
e)
simple E.V.. use mbcmp (default)
bits E.V.. use fewest bits
rd E.V.. use best rate distortion
-sc_threshold <int> E.V.. scene change threshold
-lmin <int> E.V.. min lagrange factor (VBR)
-lmax <int> E.V.. max lagrange factor (VBR)
-nr <int> E.V.. noise reduction
-rc_init_occupancy <int> E.V.. number of bits which should be loaded into the
rc buffer before decoding starts
-inter_threshold <int> E.V..
-flags2 <flags> EDVA.
fast E.V.. allow non spec compliant speedup tricks
sgop E.V.. strictly enforce gop size
noout E.V.. skip bitstream encoding
local_header E.V.. place global headers at every keyframe instead
of in extradata
bpyramid E.V.. allows B-frames to be used as references for pr
edicting
wpred E.V.. weighted biprediction for b-frames (H.264)
mixed_refs E.V.. one reference per partition, as opposed to one
reference per macroblock
dct8x8 E.V.. high profile 8x8 transform (H.264)
fastpskip E.V.. fast pskip (H.264)
aud E.V.. access unit delimiters (H.264)
brdo E.V.. b-frame rate-distortion optimization
skiprd E.V.. RD optimal MB level residual skipping
ivlc E.V.. intra vlc table
drop_frame_timecode E.V..
non_linear_q E.V.. use non linear quantizer
-error <int> E.V..
-antialias <int> .DV.. MP3 antialias algorithm
auto .DV..
fastint .DV..
int .DV..
float .DV..
-qns <int> E.V.. quantizer noise shaping
-threads <int> EDV..
-mb_threshold <int> E.V.. macroblock threshold
-dc <int> E.V.. intra_dc_precision
-nssew <int> E.V.. nsse weight
-skip_top <int> .DV.. number of macroblock rows at the top which are
skipped
-skip_bottom <int> .DV.. number of macroblock rows at the bottom which a
re skipped
-profile <int> E.VA.
unknown E.VA.
aac_main E..A.
aac_low E..A.
aac_ssr E..A.
aac_ltp E..A.
-level <int> E.VA.
unknown E.VA.
-lowres <int> .DV.. decode at 1= 1/2, 2=1/4, 3=1/8 resolutions
-skip_threshold <int> E.V.. frame skip threshold
-skip_factor <int> E.V.. frame skip factor
-skip_exp <int> E.V.. frame skip exponent
-skipcmp <int> E.V.. frame skip compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-border_mask <float> E.V.. increases the quantizer for macroblocks close t
o borders
-mblmin <int> E.V.. min macroblock lagrange factor (VBR)
-mblmax <int> E.V.. max macroblock lagrange factor (VBR)
-mepc <int> E.V.. motion estimation bitrate penalty compensation
(1.0 = 256)
-bidir_refine <int> E.V.. refine the two motion vectors used in bidirecti
onal macroblocks
-brd_scale <int> E.V.. downscales frames for dynamic B-frame decision
-crf <float> E.V.. enables constant quality mode, and selects the
quality (x264)
-cqp <int> E.V.. constant quantization parameter rate control me
thod
-keyint_min <int> E.V.. minimum interval between IDR-frames (x264)
-refs <int> E.V.. reference frames to consider for motion compens
ation (Snow)
-chromaoffset <int> E.V.. chroma qp offset from luma
-bframebias <int> E.V.. influences how often B-frames are used
-trellis <int> E.VA. rate-distortion optimal quantization
-directpred <int> E.V.. direct mv prediction mode - 0 (none), 1 (spatia
l), 2 (temporal)
-complexityblur <float> E.V.. reduce fluctuations in qp (before curve compres
sion)
-deblockalpha <int> E.V.. in-loop deblocking filter alphac0 parameter
-deblockbeta <int> E.V.. in-loop deblocking filter beta parameter
-partitions <flags> E.V.. macroblock subpartition sizes to consider
parti4x4 E.V..
parti8x8 E.V..
partp4x4 E.V..
partp8x8 E.V..
partb8x8 E.V..
-sc_factor <int> E.V.. multiplied by qscale for each frame and added t
o scene_change_score
-mv0_threshold <int> E.V..
-b_sensitivity <int> E.V.. adjusts sensitivity of b_frame_strategy 1
-compression_level <int> E.VA.
-use_lpc <int> E..A. sets whether to use LPC mode (FLAC)
-lpc_coeff_precision <int> E..A. LPC coefficient precision (FLAC)
-min_prediction_order <int> E..A.
-max_prediction_order <int> E..A.
-prediction_order_method <int> E..A. search method for selecting prediction or
der
-min_partition_order <int> E..A.
-max_partition_order <int> E..A.
-timecode_frame_start <int> E.V.. GOP timecode frame start number, in non drop
frame format
-request_channels <int> .D.A. set desired number of audio channels
AVFormatContext AVOptions:
-probesize <int> .D...
-muxrate <int> E.... set mux rate
-packetsize <int> E.... set packet size
-fflags <flags> ED...
ignidx .D... ignore index
genpts .D... generate pts
-track <int> E.... set the track number
-year <int> E.... set the year
-analyzeduration <int> .D... how many microseconds are analyzed to estimate
duration
SWScaler AVOptions:
-sws_flags <flags> E.V.. scaler/cpu flags
fast_bilinear E.V.. fast bilinear
bilinear E.V.. bilinear
bicubic E.V.. bicubic
experimental E.V.. experimental
neighbor E.V.. nearest neighbor
area E.V.. averaging area
bicublin E.V.. luma bicubic, chroma bilinear
gauss E.V.. gaussian
sinc E.V.. sinc
lanczos E.V.. lanczos
spline E.V.. natural bicubic spline
print_info E.V.. print info
accurate_rnd E.V.. accurate rounding
mmx E.V.. MMX SIMD acceleration
mmx2 E.V.. MMX2 SIMD acceleration
3dnow E.V.. 3DNOW SIMD acceleration
altivec E.V.. AltiVec SIMD acceleration
bfin E.V.. Blackfin SIMD acceleration
full_chroma_int E.V.. full chroma interpolation
full_chroma_inp E.V.. full chroma input

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.a
c3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'-r' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Quatre
8th January 2008, 20:12
but you lose the ac3 playback as the ps3 doesnt support ac3 in mp4 files from everything ive heard. hence the reason why 3r wrote this program (plus to save time and perserve the original quality of video and audio by just remuxing).

i thought mp4 could now have 5.1 audio on ps3 now? otherwise mpeg-2 definately does. its just a toss up whether you want the quick remux and equivalent (to the orig mkv) file size at the sacrifice of no ff/rw or the longer transcode to mpeg-2 and 50% larger file size with the benefit of full ff/rw controls.

personally as i've said I need the resume, ff/rw etc. so i'm hoping that mkv2vob future revision gives you teh option to force transcode to mpeg-2.

meantime "Super" seems like a great program. for changing most any video file into any other including a ps3 mode (which does mp4 auto) and still can do the mkv 2 vob or mkv 2 mpeg-2.

i was forced to look for an alternative when mkv2vob wouldn't accept any of the mkv's i was trying for a certain series due to the error code mentioned in previous post of mine and GotSent made a .mpg avc file (using the mux to vob option) that froze up or went super slow 5-6 minutes into the resulting file.

i wanted something that i could do mkv 2 mpeg-2 and Super can do that plus mkv 2 mp4 and a whole lot more.

i'm still trying to figure out what the quickest conversion is from mkv to something tht will play on ps3 or 360 with full ff/rw control.

right now i believe that is mpeg-2 on ps3 as i think mkv 2 mp4 takes longer.

jamos
8th January 2008, 20:20
i thought mp4 could now have 5.1 audio on ps3 now? otherwise mpeg-2 definately does. its just a toss up whether you want the quick remux and equivalent (to the orig mkv) file size at the sacrifice of no ff/rw or the longer transcode to mpeg-2 and 50% larger file size with the benefit of full ff/rw controls.

personally as i've said I need the resume, ff/rw etc. so i'm hoping that mkv2vob future revision gives you teh option to force transcode to mpeg-2.

meantime "Super" seems like a great program. for changing most any video file into any other including a ps3 mode (which does mp4 auto) and still can do the mkv 2 vob or mkv 2 mpeg-2.

i was forced to look for an alternative when mkv2vob wouldn't accept any of the mkv's i was trying for a certain series due to the error code mentioned in previous post of mine and GotSent made a .mpg avc file (using the mux to vob option) that froze up or went super slow 5-6 minutes into the resulting file.

i wanted something that i could do mkv 2 mpeg-2 and Super can do that plus mkv 2 mp4 and a whole lot more.

i'm still trying to figure out what the quickest conversion is from mkv to something tht will play on ps3 or 360 with full ff/rw control.

right now i believe that is mpeg-2 on ps3 as i think mkv 2 mp4 takes longer.

try out mp4 with ac3 on the ps3 i am curious if it works now..would be a good alternative to mpeg2.

jamos
8th January 2008, 20:21
C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg
-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob




C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.a
c3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'-r' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

You must put " quotes around the path name if it has spaces in it man. Like my example.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob

Quatre
8th January 2008, 20:30
nope looks like for mp4 its only AAC 2ch (no 5.1 option even in the "Super" prog for mp4 so its not a ps3 problem but just mp4 from mkv can only be done 2ch i guess?), so i wont be selecting mp4 as a choice anymore. I guess mpeg-2 is the best if you want mkv on ps3 with full ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. i dont know why i bothered doing the mp4. I guess cus in 'Super', if you select ps3 as output file it automatically does mp4. why dont they offer mpeg-2 as a ps3 choice? it transcodes just as quick if not quicker I believe, it has the full ff/rw controls in ps3, and the benefit over mp4 of 5.1 sound with the one catch of the larger file size.

I wonder what other file formats work on ps3 that Sound can do (cus it can output to almost any video file type) and if there are any other choices that work, which is the fasted transcode with ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. It probably is still mpeg-2 as the best bet but just curious.

fonkee1
8th January 2008, 20:41
Quatre,

I have used Super for everything else but the PS3. I didn't know it worked for it. Thanks for the info. Have you had success with 1080p mkv to MPEG-2 files? Mkv2VOB is an awesome program, but i still get out of sync Audio with 1080P files. I tried downconverting to 720p with AutoMKV and Ripbot264 and have had no success. AutoMKV took like a whole day for one movie to process the video, then it got to the audio portion and just looked at me dumb, lol. Ripbot just always hangs when it gets to H264.info part. I'll try Super:goodpost:

georgem67
9th January 2008, 01:06
You must put " quotes around the path name if it has spaces in it man. Like my example.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob

This is what I get now

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.
264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -v
codec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob' is not recognized as an internal or ext
ernal command,
operable program or batch file.

How do I run this command? I am using windows command from accessories but is there another way...as I cannot put the quotes from the start?....help!!!

jamos
9th January 2008, 01:29
This is what I get now

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.
264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -v
codec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob' is not recognized as an internal or ext
ernal command,
operable program or batch file.

How do I run this command? I am using windows command from accessories but is there another way...as I cannot put the quotes from the start?....help!!!


dude your still not enclosing the path withen double quotes you only have a end quote you need to enclose the full path of the executable withen quotes like this but use your path "c:\ffmpeg\ffmpeg.exe"

then put the rest of your parameters after it.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob

I do not want to hijack this thread please start another thread titled ffmpeg command line help if you need more help. sorry 3r..

Quatre
9th January 2008, 02:47
Quatre,

I have used Super for everything else but the PS3. I didn't know it worked for it. Thanks for the info. Have you had success with 1080p mkv to MPEG-2 files? Mkv2VOB is an awesome program, but i still get out of sync Audio with 1080P files. I tried downconverting to 720p with AutoMKV and Ripbot264 and have had no success. AutoMKV took like a whole day for one movie to process the video, then it got to the audio portion and just looked at me dumb, lol. Ripbot just always hangs when it gets to H264.info part. I'll try Super:goodpost:

ah glad to see someone else knew of and used Super. seems like a great prog but hadn't heard much about it. Yeah it has a ps3 output option but as I said that just does an mp4 with h.264/avc video codec. and at least from mkv, the only mp4 sound options are 2ch.

I dont know why they dont give you a couple of choices for ps3 playback, do they not realize that mpeg-2 plays on ps3 and has 5.1 (6ch) audio? the only drawback I thought was that mpeg-2 would be a considerably larger file and it is somewhat but I guess it depends on the bitrate, I just set the bitrate to as close to what the original mkv's was (double click your mkv after dragging it in there to see its specs) which is very useful. can't type in an exact bitrate but the drop down list will have something close to what the orig mkv bitrate was.

you choose ffmepg or MEncoder as the decoder and ffmpeg allows you to check DirectShow which supposedly can speed up the encode and increase quality but depends on a few variables. I just had a few that didnt work with DirectShow checked, you could see right away it just made a small file and stopped, but unchecking it makes an mpeg-2 fine.

Crazy how for one series, the only x264 720p mkv for each ep were mostly all different, but Super seems to work on them all. Can queue up a few at a time but since they seem to have diff bitrates i end up doing one at at time.

So far so good with Super on these particular mkv files after mkv2vob and GotSent didn't work.

I haven't dont many 1080p x264, but the ones I did mkv2vob seemed to transcode them to mpeg-2 perfectly with in sync audio and full ff/rw controls, with just the drawback of taking a little while (still much much less time then encoding mkv to wmv) and a larger file size (basically double).

I'm really not a fan of .vob avc now from mkv with no ff/rw controls so will prob only use mkv2vob for the 1080p mkv it transcodes, but at that point its prob best for me to just use Super to make mpeg-2.

But for some 720p mkv that are larger then just a tv ep, it may be tempting to do the quick remux to vob.

Just a shame Super uses mp4 with the 2ch audio for the ps3 output for ppl that dont know that mpeg-2 works perfect on ps3. I"m still wondering what other formats that mkv can be converted to and will play on ps3 but maybe thats it.

Yeah I didnt have much success with ripbot264 and i think i have automkv but dont use. Nothing worse then wasting time for it not to work which happens a lot with ps3 especially when it looks like the file works only to find it freezes up 5 min in or stops 10 min in.

I"m pretty impressed with Super to make mpeg-2 from mkv, simple enough yet enough settings to match it up with the original mkv which it lets you see all the specs of so there is no mystery.

i know i did 2hr 1080p mkv transcode to mpeg-2 using mkv2vob and it was only like 2-3 hrs and using Super on these 1hr eps also to mpeg-2 is like 45 min so no need to do anything that takes a whole day as you mentioned. Though I know encoding mkv to wmv can take 10-24hrs+ like that.

I want quick but i also want to retain quality and have ff/rw controls. so for mkv playback on ps3, mpeg-2 seems to be the way to go for me.

fredward
9th January 2008, 07:42
Is anyone having issues with DTS audio error converting to AC3 from the MKV file? I keep getting an error and I also downloaded the older versions too and still the same problem.

Quatre
9th January 2008, 08:19
well in the ongoing update to get the Dexter season one mkv eps to play on ps3 things are not so good. as mentioned mkv2vob didnt accept the files at all to mux or transcode. GotSent makes a muxed vob (GS makes a .mpg extension) which seems like it works but freezes/slows up 5-6 min in.

Super's ps3 setting just makes an mp4 which works but has 2ch audio and the one i watched didn't look great quality and the audio went out of sync towards the end. When I try to make an mpeg-2 using Super it seems to make one ok that works on pc but not ps3.

I guess thats why mkv2vob wouldn;t mux it or transcode it, these mkv files have something funky with them, but there are prob others like it.

seems ps3 is just picky and with some mkv the only thing tht will work for ps3 is the convert to mp4 which isn't that ideal.


here are the details of the mpeg-2 file converted from mkv using Super that shows up as corrupted on ps3 and with soem strange resoltion even those these specs clearly show its 1280x720

Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 1.16 GiB
PlayTime : 51mn 1s
Bit rate : 3269 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@Main
Codec settings/Matrix : Standard
PlayTime : 51mn 608ms
Bit rate : 2976 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Aspect ratio : 1.000
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.135

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 51mn 1s
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer


^
what in the above doesnt the ps3 like?

and here is the one ep that actually worked in ps3 after transcoding to mpeg-2 (using mkv2vob when auto detect determined it needed to transcode)


Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 2.53 GiB
PlayTime : 53mn 46s
Bit rate : 6747 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High-1440
Codec settings/Matrix : Standard
PlayTime : 53mn 46s
Bit rate : 6233 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Aspect ratio : 1.000
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.282

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 53mn 46s
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer



so a much higher bitrate on the one that worked (and larger file size)
Codec profile : Main@High-1440 instead of Main@Main (for the non working one)

Bit rate mode : VBR instead of CBR on the non working one
and
Bit rate : 384 Kbps instead of 256 on the non working one but i dont thin the audio matters as much.

so it must need to be Code profile Main@High-1440 and VBR Bit rate mode. those are the main 2 things that teh working on ps3 mpeg-2 has that the other non working doesnt.

now how do i get Super to make it Main@High-1440 for the Codec profile and VBR Bit rate mode using Super?


when i make an mpeg-2 in Super from the mkv, it shows up in ps3 as some weird res like 560x2048 and doesnt play. in Super it shows as 1280x720 though.

i dunno i guess there is a reason mkv2vob couldn't mux these certain mkv to vob or transcode to mpeg-2. the only option on these certain ones (though i'm not sure what it is about them) is to conver to mp4.

georgem67
9th January 2008, 10:46
Thanks for all your help jamos but there is definitely a blockage here at my end. ..sorry

ffmpeg flashing by very fast!! Help

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1084924#post1084924

Cheers

georgem67
9th January 2008, 12:35
Sin City mkv 4.37gb...video 23.976fps & audio perfectly in sync.
Saying yes to mpeg2 with mkv2vob is the only way to get a playable video yet the file is almost a 9gb vob...excellent quality though. However not fitting on 2 dvd's or transferable to Fat32 ext. hdd, I split the mkv to 3 parts. The 1st part plays great but the second part is out of sync with audio!! Someone here mentioned file splitter on large vobs...but the program creates 001 files etc.( only of use for storage perhaps )...is there any other working method to split the Vob or a more reliable way to split the mkv rather than MKmerge global options?
Thanks

Quatre
9th January 2008, 13:03
there has to be a better way to get these Dexter season 1 mkv's to play on ps3. nothing has worked except encoding to mp4 using Super which takes forever. mp4 has 2 ch audio and the audio is a bit out of sync, enough to annoy me especially being how long it took. I can't believe a whole series of eps couldn't be muxed to vob or the quicker transcode to mpeg-2.

I mine as well encode to wmv at this point cus i'm not impressed with mp4 and it takes almost as long.

tot31
9th January 2008, 17:42
there has to be a better way to get these Dexter season 1 mkv's to play on ps3. nothing has worked except encoding to mp4 using Super which takes forever. mp4 has 2 ch audio and the audio is a bit out of sync, enough to annoy me especially being how long it took. I can't believe a whole series of eps couldn't be muxed to vob or the quicker transcode to mpeg-2.

I mine as well encode to wmv at this point cus i'm not impressed with mp4 and it takes almost as long.

Why don't you try this method here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133563. I have a great succes with this.

B4tm4n
9th January 2008, 23:49
nope looks like for mp4 its only AAC 2ch (no 5.1 option even in the "Super" prog for mp4 so its not a ps3 problem but just mp4 from mkv can only be done 2ch i guess?), so i wont be selecting mp4 as a choice anymore. I guess mpeg-2 is the best if you want mkv on ps3 with full ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. i dont know why i bothered doing the mp4. I guess cus in 'Super', if you select ps3 as output file it automatically does mp4. why dont they offer mpeg-2 as a ps3 choice? it transcodes just as quick if not quicker I believe, it has the full ff/rw controls in ps3, and the benefit over mp4 of 5.1 sound with the one catch of the larger file size.

I wonder what other file formats work on ps3 that Sound can do (cus it can output to almost any video file type) and if there are any other choices that work, which is the fasted transcode with ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. It probably is still mpeg-2 as the best bet but just curious.

You can do 5.1 aac I do it all the time on my Mac and it plays on the PS3.

You need mplayer on your system and faac, the first line converts the ac3 to a 5.1 wav then the second line converts the wav to a 5.1 aac.

mplayer audio.ac3 -vo null -ao pcm:nowaveheader -channels 6
faac -q 128 -I 3,6 -P -R 48000 -C 6 -X audiodump.pcm -o audio.aac --mpeg-vers 4

3r1c
10th January 2008, 00:46
Post the details of the mpeg2 created in mkv2vob that doesnt work.
Dont post anything created in super, i dont know anything about it and doesnt help.

jamos
10th January 2008, 02:08
Post the details of the mpeg2 created in mkv2vob that doesnt work.
Dont post anything created in super, i dont know anything about it and doesnt help.

3r if you use -copyts in ffmpeg when you transcode it should fix any audio sync issues person have with transcoding. also if you use -sameq in your video settings part for output you do not need to worry about buffer etc as it just copies the original settings when you transcode.


also can you put in a option to force recoding in your next version? I would love to just use your program rather than having to do this manually.

thanks!

3r1c
10th January 2008, 04:08
3r if you use -copyts in ffmpeg when you transcode it should fix any audio sync issues person have with transcoding. also if you use -sameq in your video settings part for output you do not need to worry about buffer etc as it just copies the original settings when you transcode.


also can you put in a option to force recoding in your next version? I would love to just use your program rather than having to do this manually.

thanks!

V1.4 10/Jan/2008
Removed confusing yes/no prompt.
Added auto/always/never transcoding option.
Added some options to prevent audio out of sync when transcoding.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 04:44
Post the details of the mpeg2 created in mkv2vob that doesnt work.
Dont post anything created in super, i dont know anything about it and doesnt help.

mkv2vob wont even attempt to make an mpeg-2 out of these mkv files I have. That was probably my first clue that its not going to work. mkv2vob gets the error and wont make a vob or mpeg-2.

I used other programs which let me make an mpeg-2 which works on the pc and looks like it works on ps3 but 5-6 minutes into it studder freezes to a super slow down halt, unwatchable.

Although at first I was annoyed that mkv2vob wouldn't do anything with these mkv'si have, but I appreciate mkv2vob not making an mpeg-2 that ultimately doesnt work on ps3. It must have detected something.

Shame I tried it a few times using other progs to realize it. Mp4 works but the problem is at least in super the only fps video option is 29.97 while the mkv is 23.976 (as most are). Super tells you to match the frame rate to the orig file if audio is out of sync but again there is no other frame rate option when making a ps3 compat mp4.

Maybe a third option for mkv2vob would be a choice to convert the mkv into an mp4? Might get a little more complicated but for one the more choices the better and for 2 in the case of this whole series of mkv I have, they can't be muxed to vob or transcoded into mpeg-2, so the only choice would be the mp4.

Ideally mkv2vob would tell you, yes this can be muxed to vob but give you the choice to convert it into an mpeg-2 or mp4 (your choice) anyway. Again some like myself might not mind the larger file size and extra time of converting into an mpeg-2 to gain ff/rw controls and maintain 5.1 audio. Mp4 seems to take longer then the transcode to mpeg-2 (believe it or not and you would think it would be the other way around since mpeg-2 comes out so large) and while like mpeg-2 it doess seem to have the full ff/rw control ability in ps3 it is limited to 2ch audio, so I can't really see anyone wanting to do mp4 unless as in the case of a bunch of these files I have which mkv2vob can't make a vob or mpeg-2 out of it and other progs waste time making an ultimately non working mpeg-2.

So my request for mkv2vob would be as before the option to force mpeg-2 transcode even if the file can be muxed to vob, and in addition if mkv2vob can't mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2, having the ability to convert to mp4 as a last resort back up plan should basically ensure that this prog will make a working ps3 video file out of any mkv one way or another.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 04:50
V1.4 10/Jan/2008
Removed confusing yes/no prompt.
Added auto/always/never transcoding option.
Added some options to prevent audio out of sync when transcoding.

oh sweet new version. so no yes no prompt? so the auto/always/never option replaces that I guess. So auto will only transcode to mpeg-2 if it can't be muxed to vob I assume. Always, will force transcode to mpeg-2 either way and never wont transcode even if the file can't be muxed to vob. The latter would then just do nothing but I guess for ppl that only want to do the quick mux but if it has to do the lengthier transcode they dont want to bother. Though they could just stop it when they see it couldn't mux and had to transcode I guess its a nice option.

But for all these files I have that mkv2vob can't seem to mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2, I'll probably still be out of luck.

I'll give it a try though, and thanks to 3r for making such a great program, being proactive with its users and making updates/improvements. Thanks to everyones input, pointers, advice etc. and sorry for my frequent and sometimes long posts.

edit:
yep still can't do anything with these mkv I have. I get the same error.

"Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC"

and though i think someone breifly commented on that error, I still dont know what it means and more importantly what I can then do with these type x264 mkv (for ps3 or 360 playback) besides converting them to mp4.

3r1c
10th January 2008, 04:57
there is a way to convert to mp4 without transcoding (very fast) but i have been very busy lately and it will take a while to do it.

but are you sure there is nothing wrong with your mkv files?
if it wont work even converted to mpeg2 then i would say your mkvs are bad.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 05:16
there is a way to convert to mp4 without transcoding (very fast) but i have been very busy lately and it will take a while to do it.

but are you sure there is nothing wrong with your mkv files?
if it wont work even converted to mpeg2 then i would say your mkvs are bad.

yes I thought i've heard of of converting mkv to mp4 in a much faster way thats why i was surprised RipBot264 and Super take so long to do it.

Is there something wrong with my mkv files? Well they are the only x264 mkv or hd file for that matter there is of each ep of this series, yet all are different and by a few diff authors/groups.

What do you mean if it wont work as mpeg-2? mkv2vob wont even attempt to do it so yeah that is a sign these or "off" mkv but i wouldn't say bad, they are just diff in some way. I didnt make them and am just dealing with what I have to work with. Yes other progs make a non working mpeg-2 which could be further sign its a bad mkv or that i'm setting something wrong when making the mpeg-2 but i think they are just not so great files.

again either way they are all i have to work with and the only thing i've found to work is mp4, so yeah if you know a way to do it quicker let me and the thread know.

meantime I'll try and find out, but i'll prob have the rest of these eps encoded to wmv or mp4 by then or have gotten a hw media player that does x264 mkv.

Popcorn hour has a 2 month waiting list though and the tvix 6500 is delayed so..... i'm stuck with ps3 for now and remuxing/converting mkv to something that works.

tot31
10th January 2008, 05:31
thanks 3r1c for another great release....

fredward
10th January 2008, 06:25
Has anyone had any luck transcoding mkv files with DTS Audio to AC3?

tot31
10th January 2008, 06:33
Has anyone had any luck transcoding mkv files with DTS Audio to AC3?

I have done a few mkvs with DTS to AC3 without any problems with mkv2vob 1.3.1

jamos
10th January 2008, 06:38
great 3r now I can just use your program instead of messing with command lines.

thanks for putting in the always option.
:thanks:

fredward
10th January 2008, 06:42
I have done a few mkvs with DTS to AC3 without any problems with mkv2vob 1.3.1

I've done that version and I still get the Error.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 10:30
yeah I get the "Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC" error with the new version too.

nsrafk
10th January 2008, 12:17
er1c, do oyu have any clue when you'll implent some function to let mkv2vob being able to fix the subtitle issue?

I know its quite hard to get it working, but ive managed to get subtitles shown on my ps3 when transcoding with tversity and stuff, so i guess its not totally impossible.

But i wont keep doing this since the quality goes down the drain, inclusive the 5.1 audio, hehe.

I'd be the happiest man alive, when mkv2vob supports subtitle stuff =)

Anyways, thanks for a great app, and without this, my ps3 would be useless atm lol :)

tot31
10th January 2008, 12:30
Ok just tested using the latest ver 1.4 with 1.52GB mkv (h264/AC3) file, transcoded into mpeg2 with great success and the final size is 4.03GB.

sauroneru
10th January 2008, 15:52
I'm getting a pcrecpp.dll not found error with the new version.

mrdjj
10th January 2008, 17:48
Thank you 3r1c for a really great program! :) Also I really would like to have support for subtitles. Is it possible?

3r1c
10th January 2008, 18:35
V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

pjclay27
10th January 2008, 18:37
I have had 50% success on mkv to mp4 with Gotsent. I've never tried with Super. Maybe 3r1c can add it to his program that will make the conversion work. It is a lot faster conversion. Thanks for the updates 3r1c.

mrdjj
10th January 2008, 19:51
unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC when trying to convert Race.of.Champions.2007.720p.HDTV.x264.aaC-PpRch.mkv with V1.4.1

SeeMoreDigital
10th January 2008, 20:28
unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC when trying to convert Race.of.Champions.2007.720p.HDTV.x264.aaC-PpRch.mkv with V1.4.1Made this file yourself did you?

mrdjj
10th January 2008, 20:54
no, find it on [removed]

3r1c
10th January 2008, 21:19
Its x264 + aac so just remux to mp4 with Yamb, shouldnt need recompress.

mrdjj
10th January 2008, 22:24
Thx, i will try Yamb.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 22:31
V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

what? another new version and fixes this error that all my mkv were getting?! wow! omg, i think its working on these now with that error that previously didnt, 3r you are the greatest.

I chose auto so will have to see the result, i was curious as to if it would need the transcode or not and then if it doesn't i may end up forcing the transcode anyway.

looks like its working but I will report back for sure if noone else has tried using latest version on an mkv with the V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 22:35
I have had 50% success on mkv to mp4 with Gotsent. I've never tried with Super. Maybe 3r1c can add it to his program that will make the conversion work. It is a lot faster conversion. Thanks for the updates 3r1c.

i've had mixed results with GotSent also, while Super has been 100% with making mp4 from mkv and before 3r's latest version of mkv2vob was the only resort i could find in the time being. the audio was sometimes out of sync on the mp4 from mkv using Super though and it took awhile.

I did suggest adding an option to conver to mp4 but now its really not needed that he fixed the error that wouldn't let mkv2vob mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2. the mp4 conversion seemed to take just as long or longer then mpeg-2 so i'm not so sure about your statment.

is that what you meant that mkv to mp4 conversion ws quicker then to mpeg-2? because i think its opposite. only reason i could see someone wanting mp4 is for the smaller file size then mpeg-2 and retaining the ff/rw controls just like mpeg-2. But mp4 has only 2ch audio so its no good to many.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 22:37
Its x264 + aac so just remux to mp4 with Yamb, shouldnt need recompress.

hm Yamb, didnt' think to try that for mp4 instead of Super when mkv2vob can't do anythign with it. though now with new version doen't seem like many mkv still stumps mkv2vob.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 22:41
V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

thanks again 3r for a great program and your help and pro activeness with it. Sony has you to thank for many of us (as at leat one other mentioned) right now getting any use out of our otherwise dusty ps3's, heh. (if you dont understand just know that ppl with modded 360's have no use for ps3 games and usually not for bluray either) so 3r has essentially helped given our ps3's a purpose.

:thanks:


p.s.
now if someone can just get mkv's working directly on the ps3, then sony should be paying that person for what will result in the sale of a good # of new ps3. but this prog makes the ps3 at the very least a good hold over until the popcorn hour is more available or the Tvix 6500 come sout.

pjclay27
10th January 2008, 23:32
I understand about the mp4 only having 2ch audio. I enjoyed it more for the ability to keep it on one DVD-R. I know mkv2vob is meant for streaming but I prefer burning on discs. If I choose the option to never transcode on the new version of mkv2vob, will it automatically mux to vob and is it guaranteed to work on PS3? I'm not concerned with the ff/rr controls.

Quatre
10th January 2008, 23:43
ok so it worked on the mkv with the FOURCC error on prior versions. But strangely it took a little longer then usual mux to vob but i knew it was too quick to be transcoded to mpeg-2 but yet the file size more then doubled (as if its mpeg-2) 1.07gb mkv to a 2.63GB .vob

will have to see what ps3 lables it as. i'm assuming AVC and that it wont have ff/rw

only thing i can think is its jus this type of mkv gets much larger when muxed to vob. and its just i wonder how long the transcode to mpeg-2 would take because if the vob file size is about the same then thats one more reason to just do the mpeg-2 for ff/rw

tot31
11th January 2008, 00:44
Did a mkv (h264/dts) 6.54GB file last night to mpeg2 file and final size is 6.40GB with ver 1.4.

Quatre
11th January 2008, 00:49
Did a mkv (h264/dts) 6.54GB file last night to mpeg2 file and final size is 6.40GB with ver 1.4.

wow, so it actually went down going from mkv to mpeg-2. crazy especially considering i had a vob more then double in size after the remux from mkv.

thats like opposite of how its suposed to be.:confused:

Quatre
11th January 2008, 00:51
I understand about the mp4 only having 2ch audio. I enjoyed it more for the ability to keep it on one DVD-R. I know mkv2vob is meant for streaming but I prefer burning on discs. If I choose the option to never transcode on the new version of mkv2vob, will it automatically mux to vob and is it guaranteed to work on PS3? I'm not concerned with the ff/rr controls.

its pretty much guaranteed to work as mkv2vob seems to just not do anything to the file if it can't make a file that works on ps3.

some mkv (supposedly 95% of 1080p mkv) can't be muxed to vob so you will be out of luck if you choose never transcode.

pjclay27
11th January 2008, 01:31
I try to stick with 720p mkv's. I will try a few without transcoding and burn on DVD-RW to see if they work.

Also, I am confused a little about the statement "its pretty much guaranteed to work as mkv2vob seems to just not do anything to the file if it can't make a file that works on ps3."

Quatre
11th January 2008, 02:56
ie. if you set it to auto and it makes a file, it most likely will work cus the prog is made for ps3 playback where as other programs aren't and could make a file that maybe even works on pc but wont on ps3.

tot31
11th January 2008, 03:22
wow, so it actually went down going from mkv to mpeg-2. crazy especially considering i had a vob more then double in size after the remux from mkv.

thats like opposite of how its suposed to be.:confused:

quatre, you should know that when transcoding from dts audio to ac3 audio the file will be smaller. the final mpeg2 has ac3 audio.

Quatre
11th January 2008, 05:40
ok thankyou. yeah i figured it was due to the audio.

fredward
11th January 2008, 05:43
Just wondering, how ius everyone getting the same file size on mpeg 2 from the original mkv? I have tried this on the new version and it is still double for me. What am I suppose to do?

3r1c
11th January 2008, 06:28
mpeg2 will be bigger then the mkv, because mpeg2 is not as efficient at compression as h264.

To try and get the same file size you would have very bad quality.

tot31
11th January 2008, 09:31
fredward, most of my mkv files (h264/ac3) will be almost double the size after converted to mpeg2/ac3.

I found out that a DTS-HD audio source can't be trancoded into ac3, I got "Error creating AC3 from WAV".

Gameruk
11th January 2008, 15:45
to 3r1c great program you done there m8 works a treat,just wondering with some mkv`s ive done have dts 1558 kb/s for sound would there be any chance if ya got add an option or get it to do ac3 sound at 640kb/s instead of 384,as it allways put it to 384kb/s if its dts.

damanisjon
11th January 2008, 15:46
has anyone tried remuxing from MKV to a playable AVI? now that the new ps3 update has come in?

fredward
11th January 2008, 18:18
Okay thanks for the response. One more thing, I notice that some mkv go out of sync. I have done everything I could on your program. Is the mkv corrupted maybe?

shon.miles@gmail.com
11th January 2008, 21:42
I am using 1.4.1 just posted in in an attempt to correct the issue I am having with a couple of mkv files, not matter which version I am using, they are always coming out way out of sync. They are 1080p files that are already in AC3, I was always choosing yes in versions prior to 1.4.1 and now choosing auto, and still way out of sync. If I play the mkv file on PC audio is fine.

I also was trying this trick here someone posted

ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"

but that changed the movie to squished 4:3 aspect ratio.

Is there anyway to deal with this out of sync audio, even command line if I have to, I have not been having problems with many files, just these few. I should mention they are x264 as well.

3r1c
12th January 2008, 00:21
do you have a sample file?

jamos
12th January 2008, 04:02
I am using 1.4.1 just posted in in an attempt to correct the issue I am having with a couple of mkv files, not matter which version I am using, they are always coming out way out of sync. They are 1080p files that are already in AC3, I was always choosing yes in versions prior to 1.4.1 and now choosing auto, and still way out of sync. If I play the mkv file on PC audio is fine.

I also was trying this trick here someone posted

ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"

but that changed the movie to squished 4:3 aspect ratio.

Is there anyway to deal with this out of sync audio, even command line if I have to, I have not been having problems with many files, just these few. I should mention they are x264 as well.


I posted that trick and it copies your original video format which it thinks is 4:3 which it may well be or it just may be a corrupt mkv to start with. also you dont need the -r command if you use that command line.

jamos
12th January 2008, 04:05
i've had mixed results with GotSent also, while Super has been 100% with making mp4 from mkv and before 3r's latest version of mkv2vob was the only resort i could find in the time being. the audio was sometimes out of sync on the mp4 from mkv using Super though and it took awhile.

I did suggest adding an option to conver to mp4 but now its really not needed that he fixed the error that wouldn't let mkv2vob mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2. the mp4 conversion seemed to take just as long or longer then mpeg-2 so i'm not so sure about your statment.

is that what you meant that mkv to mp4 conversion ws quicker then to mpeg-2? because i think its opposite. only reason i could see someone wanting mp4 is for the smaller file size then mpeg-2 and retaining the ff/rw controls just like mpeg-2. But mp4 has only 2ch audio so its no good to many.

I thought mp4 has 5 channel aac?

jamos
12th January 2008, 04:06
wow, so it actually went down going from mkv to mpeg-2. crazy especially considering i had a vob more then double in size after the remux from mkv.

thats like opposite of how its suposed to be.:confused:


ac3 is smaller than dts.

shon.miles@gmail.com
12th January 2008, 15:04
Yes I "had" a sample, after I quick tested this app on it and it worked, I deleted it along with all the archive files the mkv was "delivered in".

shon.miles@gmail.com
12th January 2008, 15:11
I posted that trick and it copies your original video format which it thinks is 4:3 which it may well be or it just may be a corrupt mkv to start with. also you don't need the -r command if you use that command line.

I just realized when I copied and pasted and changed that command, the rate is wrong, the rate is 25 not 23.976, but that would not change the format of the aspect ration would it?

I only used it because it it was posted in another forum for fixing out of sync audio problems.

I would not know how to tell if the mkv is corrupt everything from mkvinfo looks good and the file plays fine on the PC.

ultratoto14
12th January 2008, 18:16
I think ffmpeg version have a mkv broken support.

I've got a question about audio delay.

When you input the mkv, you can take the first timecode of each track (video and audio) and sometimes, the timecodes are different resulting in audio and video out of synch.

Taking this timecodes, you can add this into your ffmpeg command line.

To insert a 360 ms delay on audio use this :
ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i video.h264 -itsoffset 00:00:00.360 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

for -360ms delay on audio, delay the video by 360
ffmpeg -r 23.976 -itsoffset 00:00:00.360 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

Tell us if it's possible.

I'm working on a tool that do all the things on 1 pass, demux data from mkv, patch it for 4.1 level and mux i directly to vob.

I'm quite busy this time and cannot tell you if this tool will be finished but if you need help ...

pepperisback
12th January 2008, 20:01
Hello!

Since I have the new version I get the message "Error Extracting MKV" at the beginning.

How can I solve this problem?

pepperisback
13th January 2008, 02:05
I tried to open several mkvs with the program mkvmerge and i get this error message: File Identification for ... : Return Code 2

Does somebody knows how to solve this problem?

survivant001
13th January 2008, 15:01
@3r1c

2 requests.

#1 - be able to keep the temp files.
#2 - add a normalized audio step please. (that's why I want to keep the temp files)

thanks

deepblue2000
13th January 2008, 17:02
would be nice to choose the output and temp directory,
I dont like it,when mkv2vob always take my C: to do all the work.

Ive tried Transformers 1080p mkv ..... the mkv file is 10,8 GB... after a view hours with mkv2vob I did abort the process and the vob file was 45 GB....

Sample: http://senduit.com/6ef10c

GotSent just works a little bit better....the file size changed to 11 GB but when I play the video file, there is no picture.


And a split option for mkv2vob would be nice...
(since the ps3 doesnt support other filesystems like fat32 with 4gb limit)

Some Guys say, that you can format an external usb harddrive with ext2 or ext3 and put large files on it, but the PS3 doesnt find any drive, just works with Fat32.

Thats the reason why there should be a split option. (to burn it)

awol3
13th January 2008, 18:09
Just signed up to say Thanks 3r1c for this awesome tool.

3r1c
13th January 2008, 18:31
I tried to open several mkvs with the program mkvmerge and i get this error message: File Identification for ... : Return Code 2

Does somebody knows how to solve this problem?

you dont open mkv's with mkvmerve, you create mkvs out of other files with it.

and this thread isnt for mkvmerge.

3r1c
13th January 2008, 18:39
Ive tried Transformers 1080p mkv ..... the mkv file is 10,8 GB... after a view hours with mkv2vob I did abort the process and the vob file was 45 GB....

You shouldnt have cancelled it, just leave it until its finished and it will be playable.

GotSent just works a little bit better....the file size changed to 11 GB but when I play the video file, there is no picture.

Not sure why you would call that "better".
Gotsent has no detection for unplayable files, so it remuxes and it cant be played.

shon.miles@gmail.com
13th January 2008, 22:27
ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -itsoffset 00:00:05.000 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

I always get the same result, audio and no video, what am I doing wrong.

Here is the command I used to extract

mkvextract tracks video.mkv 3:video.h264 1:audio.ac3

Here is the mkvinfo for the video, what am I doing wrong, I have tried this with and without the itoffset for audio sync issue. I am trying manually because mkv2vob v1.4.1 is producing a vob that has audio about 5 seconds too early on some mkv files, and these files all play in sync on the PC in video player
------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Tools\mkv2vob v1.4\tools>mkvinfo video.mkv
+ EBML head
|+ Doc type: matroska
|+ Doc type version: 1
|+ Doc type read version: 1
+ Segment, size 8533376412
|+ Seek head (subentries will be skipped)
|+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025)
|+ Segment information
| + Timecode scale: 1000000
| + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
| + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 20
7 23:40:55
| + Duration: 7831.440s (02:10:31.440000000)
| + Date: Wed Aug 08 17:53:58 2007 UTC
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deepblue2000
14th January 2008, 14:26
[QUOTE=3r1c;1086836]You shouldnt have cancelled it, just leave it until its finished and it will be playable.

mhm..the file is finish 23 GB...thats the double size.

I cant burn or stream it. Why is it so big.

a split option would be nice

Effervescence
14th January 2008, 15:15
I have registered just to say a BIG THANKS TO 3r1c.:thanks:

Without this fantastic thread my High Def .mkv files would still be sitting on my PC doing nothing. As a result of downloading and using mkv2vob version 1.2.0.1 I now have all my lovely 720p Vidoes working perfectly on my PS3 in 5.1 surround :)

Once again, :thanks:

georgem67
14th January 2008, 21:24
Will : ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"
allow the original DTS to be played?

3r1c
14th January 2008, 22:20
dts must be transcoded to ac3. the ps3 wont play dts on anything but dvd/blu-ray discs.

deepblue2000
14th January 2008, 22:51
can we get some options to choose temp and working dir for mkv2vob ?

very important for me.


and just a question, whats the reason, that the vob files get so large ? 11mkv to 21gb vob ?

naj
14th January 2008, 23:28
can we get some nsoptions to choose temp and working dir for mkv2vob ?

You already have an answer to that here... Go to computer properties, advanced, environment variables, and change TEMP and TMP to whatever you need/want.

whats the reason, that the vob files get so large ? 11mkv to 21gb vob ?

That already had an answer before... MKV is usually using MPEG4-AVC codec, that compresses way better than MPEG2 (transcoded output) with same bitrate... that means a MPEG2 transcoded output needs a lot more bitrate (hence, space) to have similar quality to MPEG4-AVC content...


Just to leave a warm and big thanks to 3r1c, this tool is really awesome! However, I'd pretty much like to ask for a request, though... can you please oh please give subtitle support to the program? At least transcoding, I'm not even asking to supply them as SUP or other format by streaming them as a track... hard-coded in MPEG2 format would already rock!!!

Once again, many thanks for this fabulous tool, the best I've seen so far (and I think I've seen them all ;) ).

awol3
15th January 2008, 00:53
Anyone have a solution for this particular error?

Error creating AC3 from WAV!

Thanks.

jamos
15th January 2008, 03:47
@3r1c

2 requests.

#1 - be able to keep the temp files.
#2 - add a normalized audio step please. (that's why I want to keep the temp files)

thanks


normalizing the audio would take away the surround effect. basically you would get the same audio from all channels. Do you mean set audio lvls higher? if so you can do that with ffmpeg but not with the copy audio which is what mkv2vob does.

jamos
15th January 2008, 03:49
ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -itsoffset 00:00:05.000 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

I always get the same result, audio and no video, what am I doing wrong.



unless your converting it to mpeg2 which your not, you will not be able to see video on your computer. This is just to convert to play on PS3 by setting the lvl to 4.1.

jamos
15th January 2008, 03:52
Will : ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"
allow the original DTS to be played?

It actually will convert it to ac3, but it doesnt do it correctly as the center channel is the left front. maybe a newer version of ffmpeg in the future will fix it.

deepblue2000
15th January 2008, 14:27
ok, I did a lot of tests...

1080p mkvs always needs to be transcoded. if not just audio no video.


So, first split the mkv in three parts, transcoded with mkv2vob and burn in it to a DL dvdr.

Atak_Snajpera
15th January 2008, 21:17
1080p mkvs always needs to be transcoded.

Only if video was encoded with b-pyramid and has more than 4 refs.

clotz2000
16th January 2008, 03:19
I just wanted to give props to 3r1c for putting this program together. I know the tools are readily available but he has put everything together in an easy to use, configurable, and awesome tool.

I can convert any of the MKV's I've got (720p or 1080p) and copy them to the PS3 hard drive with Nero MediaHome and play it with no sync or video issues and 5.1 Sound.

Thanks again, :thanks:

Clotz2000

jamos
16th January 2008, 03:35
I can confirm with 1.4.1 I get a 'cannot covert to wav' error after tranzcode runs with some dts mkv's. Something new is causing this issue using a dts mkv. I do not get this error in 1.4.

jamos
16th January 2008, 03:45
hey 3r I have had better sucess with using 448 bitrate for besweet conversion of dts mono wavs to ac3. The issue is we are going from 1536kbs DTS to 384kbs AC3 which is why the audio seems lower and generally not as good as dts. AC3 does not support such high bitrates as DTS but 448kbs does make a small difference.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

also boost seems to help to get the original DTS effects.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

most bluray AC3 content is 640kbs.

clotz2000
16th January 2008, 05:09
hey 3r I have had better sucess with using 448 bitrate for besweet conversion of dts mono wavs to ac3. The issue is we are going from 1536kbs DTS to 384kbs AC3 which is why the audio seems lower and generally not as good as dts. AC3 does not support such high bitrates as DTS but 448kbs does make a small difference.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

also boost seems to help to get the original DTS effects.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

most bluray AC3 content is 640kbs.

Have you tried re-encoding @ 640kbs? I haven't had much luck re-encoding the DTS to this bitrate, this would be almost perfect if BeSweet could do it.

3r1c
16th January 2008, 07:16
I can convert any of the MKV's I've got (720p or 1080p) and copy them to the PS3 hard drive with Nero MediaHome and play it with no sync or video issues and 5.1 Sound.

Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.

To the people getting error with DTS please give a sample file.
Nothing has changed with the DTS conversion in the last version.

jamos
16th January 2008, 15:21
Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.

To the people getting error with DTS please give a sample file.
Nothing has changed with the DTS conversion in the last version.

ok will try to get you one. the only thing this has different that I can see from its source is it has a subtitle in track 1 dts audio in track 2 and video in track 3. I know that is not the normal order but whoever created this mkv put it together this way. Did you add any subtitle code to 1.4.1 if so maybe that is what is causing it? I am gonna try to reinstall 1.4.1 in a fresh directory and see if it fixes the issue.

jamos
16th January 2008, 15:28
Have you tried re-encoding @ 640kbs? I haven't had much luck re-encoding the DTS to this bitrate, this would be almost perfect if BeSweet could do it.


Ya it encodes at 640 but i get a lower avg bitrate log message (may be just a faulty message not sure). I generally use 448 its good enough.

jamos
16th January 2008, 15:32
Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.


I think he means he uses mkv2vob to convert ac3 or dts titles then just uses nero home to host it then uses the copy feature to copy then play it off the ps3 harddrive. He should get true 5.1 ac3 doing it that way.

edit: Tversity works a bit better for me streaming also than nero home. seems to buffer better. I turn all conversion off in the settings.

But you are correct if he is using aac sources it will not be 5.1

deepblue2000
16th January 2008, 20:55
640kbit Audio works fine for me...


I just tested some 1080p mkv releases...all need to be transcoded...but the good is with the transcoded files, that you can use "ffwd. and rew" with max speed 120x and it works fine.

the transcoded 1080p vobs are 3times larger than the mkv but....who cares if you split it and burn it to dl-dvdr and you can ffwd. and rew :-)

(I always convert dts to ac3 by myself with foobar( and besweet and ac3 encoder, then remux ac3 with mkv and then you mkv2vob)

I think, in my opinion, if it is possible to ffwd and rew with transcoded files I will it always use with my 720p files too


(sorry for my bad english)

jamos
17th January 2008, 00:00
3r this command line works really really good on extracted DTS wav files. I use it now then remux back into mkv with mkvmerge. Volume is about as rich as the original DTS on my computer and my ps3/receiver playing bluray DTS.

I would love to see mkv2vob use it then I would just use your program for all mkv to mpeg2 conversions.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

jamos
17th January 2008, 00:09
640kbit Audio works fine for me...


I just tested some 1080p mkv releases...all need to be transcoded...but the good is with the transcoded files, that you can use "ffwd. and rew" with max speed 120x and it works fine.

the transcoded 1080p vobs are 3times larger than the mkv but....who cares if you split it and burn it to dl-dvdr and you can ffwd. and rew :-)

(I always convert dts to ac3 by myself with foobar( and besweet and ac3 encoder, then remux ac3 with mkv and then you mkv2vob)

I think, in my opinion, if it is possible to ffwd and rew with transcoded files I will it always use with my 720p files too


(sorry for my bad english)


I could never get the aften encoder to work with foobar on the extracted dts audio file. I always would get a error. I like Tranzcode better anyways.

clotz2000
17th January 2008, 01:32
I think he means he uses mkv2vob to convert ac3 or dts titles then just uses nero home to host it then uses the copy feature to copy then play it off the ps3 harddrive. He should get true 5.1 ac3 doing it that way.

Nero Home works a bit better for me streaming also that tversity. seems to buffer better. I turn all conversion off in the settings.

But you are correct if he is using aac sources it will not be 5.1

Jamos is correct, this is what I'm doing, I hate AAC audio unless it's like seasons of Friends or something. I will try 640kbps and see if I can tell a sound difference. most likely not.

I don't typically stream with MediaHome, I generally copy it to the PS3 HD. I recently replaced the internal PS3 HD with an eSATA enclosure with a 750GB HD in it, so I save all of my movies to it and just pull the HD movies up on demand.

Everything is working superb, thanks again to both of you for your contributions and testing.

Clotz2000

Quatre
17th January 2008, 05:51
Jamos is correct, this is what I'm doing, I hate AAC audio unless it's like seasons of Friends or something. I will try 640kbps and see if I can tell a sound difference. most likely not.

I don't typically stream with MediaHome, I generally copy it to the PS3 HD. I recently replaced the internal PS3 HD with an eSATA enclosure with a 750GB HD in it, so I save all of my movies to it and just pull the HD movies up on demand.

Everything is working superb, thanks again to both of you for your contributions and testing.

Clotz2000

how do you use an eSata with the ps3? I mean I've heard of being able to do this but I thought you basically had to leave the ps3 case off and have the esata cable running out of the ps3 casing to your ext. esata hdd.

It sounded a bit messy to me as I'd rather use a 2.5" sata drive like the ps3 currently uses and be able to close it back up and not have the ext. drive taking up space i dont have on my limited 2 a/v shelves under tv.

Just curious how you did it and if you are able to close the ps3 case and all. I'm thinking about and may give it a try with a 500gb WD eSata hdd (also has usb and firewire 400) and the sata cable to esata input I have (its meant for the back of a pc but i guess could hang loose on the outside of the ps3) and then an esata cable from that to the ext. hdd. (ppl forget that esata is different from sata and that you need an esata input and esata cable)

I guess I would need to transfer everything off of the current ps3 60gb 2.5" sata while it is still in there onto say a fat32 hdd? but then what about anything larger then 4gb you already have on the ps3 internal (which i guess would mostly be any movies you transferred on there using tversity or nero media home etc. so you could just transfer them back to the pc for now) Which are the better progs for streaming and transferring to the ps3? TVersity or Nero Media home etc.?

Then connect the eSata or new 2.5" sata and have the ps3 format it to its propietary file format (whatever it uses) and then transfer everything back to it from the fat32 and from your pc that you had on it before. Point is, you wont be able to read the ps3 internal hdd on your pc right? did anyone ever figure out what type of file system the ps3 uses on the internal hdd?

I've been making do with the default 60gb drive as most movies I want to see are coming out in wmvhd (which works great on 360 while wile most on ps3 have no sound) and more and more are in 1080p, so those are just easier to get then messing with transcoding x264 and they look great. So I haven't needed much space for movies and in fact had a few that I was previoiusly splitting the mkv first into 4gb parts then remuxing to vob.

Mostly beeing using x264 mkv for tv eps which are all under 4gb even transcoded to mpeg-2 , so they work with the fat32 2.5" usb ext. hdd.

I figured 320gb 2.5" sata would be fine to repalce the ps3 internal since I still have some space left on the 60gb but.... I'm storing more and more avchd home video on the internal and I ultimately prefer mpeg-2 as we need ff/rw so I'm going to need a lot of space for those especially if wmv's slow down and especially with bd+ being done with tv capture card to x264 (like Die Hard 4 i believe which i have split into 2 .vob's and on fat32 but now want to transcode to mpeg-2 for ff/rw and resume as my wife falls asleep during every movie)

So, it might be a good idea to consider someting larger then the max 320gb 2.5" sata and go with the 3.5" esata as you can larger capacity for cheaper obviously, but just curious how anyone doing this made it work and how neat it is?

wabbster
17th January 2008, 06:02
I have the same problem. Out of sync audio with 1080p files. 720 work flawless. it seems to be out of sync by about 1-2 secs. Any help on this? I can post a sample.








I am using 1.4.1 just posted in in an attempt to correct the issue I am having with a couple of mkv files, not matter which version I am using, they are always coming out way out of sync. They are 1080p files that are already in AC3, I was always choosing yes in versions prior to 1.4.1 and now choosing auto, and still way out of sync. If I play the mkv file on PC audio is fine.

I also was trying this trick here someone posted

ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"

but that changed the movie to squished 4:3 aspect ratio.

Is there anyway to deal with this out of sync audio, even command line if I have to, I have not been having problems with many files, just these few. I should mention they are x264 as well.

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 06:37
I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

3r1c
17th January 2008, 08:31
I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

Yeah i know of the Xmuxer thing, you can do it with elementary streams too, the problem is Xmuxer is not free software so i cannot include it.

Quatre
17th January 2008, 08:35
that would be huge if someone figures out an easy way to get ff/rw working on mkv's remuxed to vob.

But it would have to be pretty quick and easy to be worth it and work on more then just smaller sample clips.

Personally I had a 720p mkv movie split into 2 .vob's with no ff/rw and just re did with new version of mkv2vob forcing transcode because i know i need the ff/rw and resume with my wife and it really didnt take that long.

I guess it depends on the mkv but some dont take that long to transcode to mpeg-2.

clotz2000
17th January 2008, 10:10
how do you use an eSata with the ps3? I mean I've heard of being able to do this but I thought you basically had to leave the ps3 case off and have the esata cable running out of the ps3 casing to your ext. esata hdd.

It sounded a bit messy to me as I'd rather use a 2.5" sata drive like the ps3 currently uses and be able to close it back up and not have the ext. drive taking up space i dont have on my limited 2 a/v shelves under tv.

Just curious how you did it and if you are able to close the ps3 case and all. I'm thinking about and may give it a try with a 500gb WD eSata hdd (also has usb and firewire 400) and the sata cable to esata input I have (its meant for the back of a pc but i guess could hang loose on the outside of the ps3) and then an esata cable from that to the ext. hdd. (ppl forget that esata is different from sata and that you need an esata input and esata cable)

I guess I would need to transfer everything off of the current ps3 60gb 2.5" sata while it is still in there onto say a fat32 hdd? but then what about anything larger then 4gb you already have on the ps3 internal (which i guess would mostly be any movies you transferred on there using tversity or nero media home etc. so you could just transfer them back to the pc for now) Which are the better progs for streaming and transferring to the ps3? TVersity or Nero Media home etc.?

Then connect the eSata or new 2.5" sata and have the ps3 format it to its propietary file format (whatever it uses) and then transfer everything back to it from the fat32 and from your pc that you had on it before. Point is, you wont be able to read the ps3 internal hdd on your pc right? did anyone ever figure out what type of file system the ps3 uses on the internal hdd?

I've been making do with the default 60gb drive as most movies I want to see are coming out in wmvhd (which works great on 360 while wile most on ps3 have no sound) and more and more are in 1080p, so those are just easier to get then messing with transcoding x264 and they look great. So I haven't needed much space for movies and in fact had a few that I was previoiusly splitting the mkv first into 4gb parts then remuxing to vob.

Mostly beeing using x264 mkv for tv eps which are all under 4gb even transcoded to mpeg-2 , so they work with the fat32 2.5" usb ext. hdd.

I figured 320gb 2.5" sata would be fine to repalce the ps3 internal since I still have some space left on the 60gb but.... I'm storing more and more avchd home video on the internal and I ultimately prefer mpeg-2 as we need ff/rw so I'm going to need a lot of space for those especially if wmv's slow down and especially with bd+ being done with tv capture card to x264 (like Die Hard 4 i believe which i have split into 2 .vob's and on fat32 but now want to transcode to mpeg-2 for ff/rw and resume as my wife falls asleep during every movie)

So, it might be a good idea to consider someting larger then the max 320gb 2.5" sata and go with the 3.5" esata as you can larger capacity for cheaper obviously, but just curious how anyone doing this made it work and how neat it is?

Ok, so this is a little off topic and probably should be discussed somewhere else but figured I should put an answer to his question here in case anyone else wants to do the same.

I have a regular eSATA enclosure with the 750GB HD in it. I run an eSATA to Male SATA cable from the back of the enclosure to the inside of the PS3 where the original 2.5" drive plugs in. Now the SATA end has to be modified slightly, the right side of the connector is just a plastic piece, cut that piece off, (there is still another plastic piece holding the cable firmly in place) and of course the eSATA enclosure is powered via it's own power adapter, then format the drive using the Format Utility.
Also, if you're worried about how it looks, you can either A-Leave the plastic door off the side of the PS3, or B-Cut a small hole in the plastic door just big enough to fit the cable through. You don't have to take the PS3 apart.

Don't know if I'm supposed to post links but here is where you can find the cable you'll need:
eSATA To Male SATA Cable (http://www.cooldrives.com/esexcaitolex.html)
This is one of the few places that have it, it is extremely difficult to find locally, 9 times out of 10 you won't...

The enclosure I'm using-matches great with the PS3:
eSATA Enclosure (http://www.amazon.com/Vantec-NexStar-eSATA-External-Enclosure/dp/B000EDKO04)
you usually can find this at a computer store, or at least something similar to it.

And Yes, if you have stuff on your PS3 HD of course back it up somewhere before you take it out. Also, Nero MediaHome seems to be working much faster for just transferring files from the PC to the PS3 HD, TVersity seems quite abit slower both at my house and my buddies house using pc to router > router to PS3 connections.

Anyways, just figured I would offer this info.

Quatre
17th January 2008, 10:36
ah ok, doesn't sound like I wont want to use the eSata for ps3 especially because of needing the power cable. that is why i use usb powered 2.5" ext. hdd's for 360 and ps3.

And I need to use an eSata with my dtv stb so i'll go with just a 2.5" sata hdd upgrade for ps3. Supposedly its in the manual how to upgrade it and i will just have to make sure it can use a 320gb.

interesting that Nero Media Home is faster to trasnfer files. Tversity does seem slow copying to the ps3.

oh and i recommend the Azio enclosure as it comes with a sata to esata bracket and esata cable that most dont.

morpheus0815
17th January 2008, 10:42
Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.

To the people getting error with DTS please give a sample file.
Nothing has changed with the DTS conversion in the last version.

Is that still true? I read somewhere that since FW 2.0 PS3 supports AAC 5.1 from XMB over optical out. So it's only a question whether your AV supports AAC 5.1 if you get surround or not!?
Can someone confirm this?

georgem67
17th January 2008, 14:05
I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

Have you tried todo this with a 4gb vob? Do the files stay the same size?
thanks

jamos
17th January 2008, 16:31
Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.


Yes Xmuxer has issues with big files it seems.

jamos
17th January 2008, 16:36
I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

Yes the 4.1 trick doesnt work for 1080p I think. so you would have to convert to mpeg2 anyways hence no need to use Xmuxer, but it should work ok for 720p.

wabbster
17th January 2008, 17:13
I tried 3 different 1080p files and I noticed something that happened in all of them. When the vob file was played back the first 2-4 secs of the video was studdering as if it was playing in slow motion. After a few secs it played at the proper speed. 720P files do not studder at all and audio sync is dead on.
Any ideas?

BTW, Love the tool! Great Job!! ;)



I have the same problem. Out of sync audio with 1080p files. 720 work flawless. it seems to be out of sync by about 1-2 secs. Any help on this? I can post a sample.

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 18:16
Yes Xmuxer has issues with big files it seems.

Bigger files will work, you just have to have immense patience. it could take days. I'll let you know when my 4 gig test finishes :)

Is there any other software we can use to mux a PS3 compatible M2TS, manzanita can make a working .TS file however since ps3 plays .TS with no audio, you need to convert to .M2TS and for some reason TSremuxing a manzanita mux doesn't work for PS3 - corrupted data. I also tried muxing direct to 192 byte count in manzanita it also didn't work. Tried various ways of null packet removing with null packet saver and also just running it through tsremux and I can't seem to get manzanita to play nicely with PS3.

jamos
17th January 2008, 19:43
Bigger files will work, you just have to have immense patience. it could take days. I'll let you know when my 4 gig test finishes :)


Why would I want to wait days when using mk2vob and converting it to mpeg2 takes a few hours and does the same thing (other than increase the size)?

3r1c
17th January 2008, 19:44
Here is a much faster way.

Open graphedit.
Input file is the vob.
Connect vob output pin to input of MainConcept MPEG Demuxer
Connect H264 pin to input 1 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect AC3 pin to input 2 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect MCMux out pin to Dump, select your ts file.
Play the graph

jamos
17th January 2008, 19:50
I tried 3 different 1080p files and I noticed something that happened in all of them. When the vob file was played back the first 2-4 secs of the video was studdering as if it was playing in slow motion. After a few secs it played at the proper speed. 720P files do not studder at all and audio sync is dead on.
Any ideas?

BTW, Love the tool! Great Job!! ;)


If you are using streaming the stuttering is because the 1080 files are much bigger and the network cannot keep up. If your talking about files playing off the ps3 hard drive I have not encountered any stutter with some 5 odd files i have tested.

Quatre
17th January 2008, 20:16
i know this is slight off topic but .ts was mentioned and some progs to make it .m2ts which would be ps3 compatible so...

What program would combine and convert .ts files into a file playable on the ps3? i guess whichever program was mentioned a few posts up that combines and converts .ts into .m2ts?

TSRemux? or does ps3 already play.ts so is just a matter of combining them.

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 20:34
i know this is slight off topic but .ts was mentioned and some progs to make it .m2ts which would be ps3 compatible so...

What program would combine and convert .ts files into a file playable on the ps3? i guess whichever program was mentioned a few posts up that combines and converts .ts into .m2ts?

TSRemux? or does ps3 already play.ts so is just a matter of combining them.

TSremux will convert .TS to .M2TS for PS3 playback with audio.
To join .TS files together get TSSPlitter make sure your original files are .TS join them together, then remux with TSRemux.

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 20:35
Why would I want to wait days when using mk2vob and converting it to mpeg2 takes a few hours and does the same thing (other than increase the size)?

Well the big difference is that it can degrade the quality as you are recompressing to mpeg2.. The other methods keep the video intact.

Quatre
17th January 2008, 20:51
TSremux will convert .TS to .M2TS for PS3 playback with audio.
To join .TS files together get TSSPlitter make sure your original files are .TS join them together, then remux with TSRemux.

so ps3 can't play .ts files in a row seamlessly? nor a combined .ts file at all?

maybe i'll check out TSsplitter but actually I found an easy way to combine .ts into one .ts file is:

open up your text editor, copy the following into it ...

copy /b *.ts merged.ts

then save it as merge_ts.bat into your .ts folder. Double click it and it will merge all the .ts files in that folder into a single merged.ts file.

Saves messing around in the dos prompt finding the right folders"

then use TSRemux i guess to remux the .ts into .m2ts that will play on ps3. will it have ff/rw?

Atak_Snajpera
17th January 2008, 21:49
Here is a much faster way.

Open graphedit.
Input file is the vob.
Connect vob output pin to input of MainConcept MPEG Demuxer
Connect H264 pin to input 1 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect AC3 pin to input 2 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect MCMux out pin to Dump, select your ts file.
Play the graph


Does MainConcept Reference (demo) contain those filters?

Quatre
17th January 2008, 22:12
success on the .ts file combined using the dos command from the .bat file method I mentioned, then tsremux to remux the merged .ts into a .m2ts. only thing weird was the ps3 wouldn't see the .m2ts until i renamed it .mpg. maybe because the file was seen by ps3 as a mpeg-2 as thats what it was maybe to do with checking the mpeg2 video stream box in tsremux under "select the elementary streams you want to keep"

i guess that means it was an mpeg-2 and i was just keeping it that way? where as if i didnt checkit would have made it an avc .m2ts? i guess better to keep the mpeg2 stream that it was unless i was trying to make it smaller? and i checked the dolby digital audio stream.

Anyway, the problem i'm having now and more on topic is a 720x400 mkv (dvd screener) i decided to force the transcode to mpeg-2 in mkv2vob so i have ff/rw and it made an unplayable file on ps3 and when i look at it , it has a weird resoution. I remember this happening when trying to make mpeg2's in Super.

shame too cus i already deleted the vob version and i had an avi of the same movie in slight lower res just in case we had to resume ff/rw the .vob.

sucks, so unpredictable this stuff.

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 22:18
Here is a much faster way.

Open graphedit.
Input file is the vob.
Connect vob output pin to input of MainConcept MPEG Demuxer
Connect H264 pin to input 1 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect AC3 pin to input 2 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect MCMux out pin to Dump, select your ts file.
Play the graph

Hey thanks for the tip, i did try it and it's much faster, however I get this jitter throughout in the video, which i didn't have in the VOB. Any suggestions? I don't mind this extra conversion step to get FF/RW from your great toold

I dragged the VOB to graphedit Out --> main concept mpeg demux, video and audio pins to mainconcept multiplexer, MCmux out to Dump and just named the file mux.ts (no other parameters). Is there a way to graphedit this mux with elementary streams also?

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 22:20
so ps3 can't play .ts files in a row seamlessly? nor a combined .ts file at all?

maybe i'll check out TSsplitter but actually I found an easy way to combine .ts into one .ts file is:

open up your text editor, copy the following into it ...

copy /b *.ts merged.ts

then save it as merge_ts.bat into your .ts folder. Double click it and it will merge all the .ts files in that folder into a single merged.ts file.

Saves messing around in the dos prompt finding the right folders"

then use TSRemux i guess to remux the .ts into .m2ts that will play on ps3. will it have ff/rw?

yes tssplitter does frame accurate joins, and allows you to sort the files. it's a preferred method as compared to copy /b
its a free download.

3r1c
17th January 2008, 22:37
The m2ts method with ff/rw does not work properly.

Yes the ff/rw works and is in sync, but the video does not play properly. If you look carefully it skips frames stutters instead of playing smoothly.

3r1c
17th January 2008, 22:39
yes tssplitter does frame accurate joins, and allows you to sort the files. it's a preferred method as compared to copy /b
its a free download.

copy /b is better.
Most likely the .ts files you have were not split frame accurate, they were just split in chunks of 100MB or whatever filesize without regard to frames, so the correct method of rejoining is a binary join with copy.

puppydg68
17th January 2008, 22:56
The m2ts method with ff/rw does not work properly.

Yes the ff/rw works and is in sync, but the video does not play properly. If you look carefully it skips frames stutters instead of playing smoothly.

so using your graphedit muxing method, we can not get smooth playback(jittering with mainconcept). Is there any other way to remux your vobs to .TS/.M2TS?

jamos
17th January 2008, 23:11
Well the big difference is that it can degrade the quality as you are recompressing to mpeg2.. The other methods keep the video intact.

I am using the -sameeq option on the extracted stream which uses the same quality as the original. I do not notice any difference playing the two side by side. But you are right remuxing alone guarentees that the quality is the same. I will try using the graph method to see if it is quicker in producing a ts but if it introduces frame skipping I will just stick with what works.

wabbster
17th January 2008, 23:27
The file size and network is not the problem. I have tested this with a 30 second mkv's at 1080p. The file is being played from a raid 0 quad core pc. It still studders after mkv2vob is done creating the vob. The same file in 720P and no studder or audio sync problems.
Does this make sense? I can post a sample on rapidshare if anyone wants to see it.

Thanks for any input.



If you are using streaming the stuttering is because the 1080 files are much bigger and the network cannot keep up. If your talking about files playing off the ps3 hard drive I have not encountered any stutter with some 5 odd files i have tested.

jamos
18th January 2008, 00:02
The file size and network is not the problem. I have tested this with a 30 second mkv's at 1080p. The file is being played from a raid 0 quad core pc. It still studders after mkv2vob is done creating the vob. The same file in 720P and no studder or audio sync problems.
Does this make sense? I can post a sample on rapidshare if anyone wants to see it.

Thanks for any input.

no it should not stutter playing on your pc. Does it stutter when you download it to the PS3. I am assuming you are reencoding it to mpeg2 as just the remux will not play on pcs.

Quatre
18th January 2008, 00:47
The m2ts method with ff/rw does not work properly.

Yes the ff/rw works and is in sync, but the video does not play properly. If you look carefully it skips frames stutters instead of playing smoothly.

you are right.
for some reason it doesn't play completely right on the ps3. It seems like it kind of skips or there are overlapping clips that flash on the screen now and then and sometimes it freezes which you can get out of by ff/rw but it kind of ruins it.

can't imagine the dos command used to merge the .ts files together is the problem nor tsremux remuxing it to a .m2ts. Strange thing was it doenst' show up on the ps3 as .m2ts. had to change it to .mpg and then it shows up and ps3 detects it as a mpeg-2.

the individual .ts files (before merging and remuxing to .m2ts) show up and play on the ps3 when renamed to .m2ts or mpg but both with no audio (no audio codec showing up in info of each file on ps3)

if there was audio, i think there is a way to play files in a row seamlessly on the ps3 because my avchd camcorder does it. Probably has to be in a certain folder or chain of folders like BDMV>Stream or wherever the clips are on the camcorder hdd.

so there must be a way by just putting the .ts files renamed to .mpg or .m2ts to play in a row seamlessly if they are in the right folder(s). not sure why there is no audio though from the raw .ts files renamed and played on ps3

Maybe the release itself has some flaws, who knows, but if not i'm sure there is a way to get this to play on ps3 with no picture/video errors and with the claimed dd 5.1 of the release/origial files.

The other option is the nl subbed 720p wmv which is old so may need reposted but i may skip both and try requesting this in a format that plays on either 360 or ps3 with no problems (audio or video) and just wait.

But its getting to be an older movie and if it hasn't been released in other formats yet it probably wont be. The 1080i 720p .ts is probably my best bet. just need to figure out what I need to do to it to get it to play on ps3 or 360 properly. Maybe super could just make a mp4 from the merged .ts?

for the 720p wmvhd, the nl subs are hard coded and they really get in the way and ruin a movie unless you speak dutch.

i thought .ts was quite compatible on ps3. What is recommended then to get .ts working on ps3? since the TSremux mux to .m2ts doesn't produce a properly playing/working video and 3r pointed out.

Again,what can one do to a movie which is in a series of .ts files to get it to play on ps3?

Quatre
18th January 2008, 01:17
copy /b is better.
Most likely the .ts files you have were not split frame accurate, they were just split in chunks of 100MB or whatever filesize without regard to frames, so the correct method of rejoining is a binary join with copy.

isn;t that what the dos command does? if not, how does one doa binary join with copy? and this will stop the stutter and creat a file from the merged .ts that plays properly on ps3?

pjclay27
18th January 2008, 01:19
Just a quick question about splitting? When I split mkv with mkvmerge do I need to check link files? I am trying to split mkv and then transcode to mpeg-2 with mkv2vob and I want to make sure it works ok when I burn on DVD-R.

bmnot
18th January 2008, 02:44
Hi guys, sorry if I'm really stupid or something but this is my first time working with HD stuff. Anyways, I have a 23 GB mkv of Transformers that I made from a ts file (which was joined from several ts files). Now, I'm trying to use mkv2vob to create a vob that's playable on the PS3. But everytime I input the mkv, it says "I was unable to automatically figure out the video/audio track numbers! Should I try to guess?"

If I choose yes, it says muxing failed and if I choose no, it says unsupported video codec. I tried it with a sample mkv that I have and it works fine. It makes a vob that I can stream to the PS3 with Tversity and play fine. What's wrong with the bigger mkv?

Quatre
18th January 2008, 02:49
MPEG-2 Transport
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 7.35 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 24mn
Bit rate : 12 Mbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High
Codec settings/Matrix : Custom
PlayTime : 1h 24mn
Bit rate : 18 Mbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Interlaced
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.290

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 640ms
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz


what can be done with a .ts file wit those specs. its already mpeg-2. shouldnt it work on ps3?

Quatre
18th January 2008, 02:51
Hi guys, sorry if I'm really stupid or something but this is my first time working with HD stuff. Anyways, I have a 23 GB mkv of Transformers that I made from a ts file (which was joined from several ts files). Now, I'm trying to use mkv2vob to create a vob that's playable on the PS3. But everytime I input the mkv, it says "I was unable to automatically figure out the video/audio track numbers! Should I try to guess?"

If I choose yes, it says muxing failed and if I choose no, it says unsupported video codec. I tried it with a sample mkv that I have and it works fine. It makes a vob that I can stream to the PS3 with Tversity and play fine. What's wrong with the bigger mkv?

how did you make an mkv out of the .ts which was made by merging all the .ts files/?

bmnot
18th January 2008, 03:34
I used the gdsmux.exe that came with Haali Matroska Splitter. And as far as I know, the PS3 can play the .ts files as long as you rename it to mpg but you don't get sound.

Quatre
18th January 2008, 03:50
I used the gdsmux.exe that came with Haali Matroska Splitter. And as far as I know, the PS3 can play the .ts files as long as you rename it to mpg but you don't get sound.

yeah i noticed that when trying to play individual .ts files renamed to .mpg or .m2ts. Why dont they get sound and how can we get it?

what is the quickest way to make a .ts file with mpeg-2 video codec (other info on my particular file posted above) play on ps3?

can't some type of quick mux be done just to get sound being it isalready mpeg-2.

tsremux used to remux the .ts to .m2ts and retain the mpeg-2 video codec resulted in a sometims jumpy video file and sometimes froze. why is this.

what would be another type to remux the .ts. Trying Source just to make an mpeg-2 out of it which i thought would be quick since it already is mpeg-2 but its taking forever like a full encode. probably another setting or something int eh audio changed which ismaking it like an all new encode to mpeg-2 even though the .ts was already mpeg-2 video codec.

jamos
18th January 2008, 03:59
yeah i noticed that when trying to play individual .ts files renamed to .mpg or .m2ts. Why dont they get sound and how can we get it?

what is the quickest way to make a .ts file with mpeg-2 video codec (other info on my particular file posted above) play on ps3?

can't some type of quick mux be done just to get sound being it isalready mpeg-2.

tsremux used to remux the .ts to .m2ts and retain the mpeg-2 video codec resulted in a sometims jumpy video file and sometimes froze. why is this.

what would be another type to remux the .ts. Trying Source just to make an mpeg-2 out of it which i thought would be quick since it already is mpeg-2 but its taking forever like a full encode. probably another setting or something int eh audio changed which ismaking it like an all new encode to mpeg-2 even though the .ts was already mpeg-2 video codec.


Lets just face it the PS3 firmware/software still has to mature a bit in handling video files. I have just settled on using mpeg2 recoding with my settings i lose very little if any video quality. The only sacrifice is time and size.

also tell me if I am wrong but remuxing with this 4.1 trick only works on 720p and 480p sources. 1080p has to be transcoded to mpeg2 to work.

3r1c
18th January 2008, 04:17
also tell me if I am wrong but remuxing with this 4.1 trick only works on 720p and 480p sources. 1080p has to be transcoded to mpeg2 to work.

The answer is "maybe".
1080p are playable without transcoding if encoded properly.
However most the people who are encoding these 1080p's are doing it wrong and not obeying the level limits.

wabbster
18th January 2008, 04:17
You are correct. I can stream it, copy it to the ps3 hd and it still studders and yes its mpeg2.
I can play the file on my pc in vob format using nero, but it studders in that as well. I just updated my nero recode to v3 and it converted the mkv file to mp4 with 5.1 audio that plays on the ps3 with no audio sync problems. Nero recode had a hard time with mkv's but maybe this new update works better. Anyone else try it?

Basically 1080p mkv to vob studder
720p mkv to vob no studder.
no matter what file size it is.

Weird.
Sample clips anyone?



no it should not stutter playing on your pc. Does it stutter when you download it to the PS3. I am assuming you are reencoding it to mpeg2 as just the remux will not play on pcs.

jamos
18th January 2008, 04:24
The answer is "maybe".
1080p are playable without transcoding if encoded properly.
However most the people who are encoding these 1080p's are doing it wrong and not obeying the level limits.

yes and I am sure that is also what is causing the video/audio sync issues. I personally make all my mkv files from various sources and I have no issues with video/audio sync or playback so I am sure its just crappy downloaded mkv files that these folks are using.

also 3r did you try the besweet option I listed in a above post? it really does help the dts conversions..they sound better then the ac3 original titles I have.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

Quatre
18th January 2008, 05:04
You are correct. I can stream it, copy it to the ps3 hd and it still studders and yes its mpeg2.
I can play the file on my pc in vob format using nero, but it studders in that as well. I just updated my nero recode to v3 and it converted the mkv file to mp4 with 5.1 audio that plays on the ps3 with no audio sync problems. Nero recode had a hard time with mkv's but maybe this new update works better. Anyone else try it?

Basically 1080p mkv to vob studder
720p mkv to vob no studder.
no matter what file size it is.

Weird.
Sample clips anyone?

do 1080p mkv studder when transcoded to mpeg-2? as supposedly most need to be transcoded.or is it just the ones that can be muxed to vob.

Quatre
18th January 2008, 05:11
ok solution to .ts, i tried a few things, used tsremux to remux the .ts to bluray instead of .m2ts. it makes all the foldes like bdmv andt hen in that stream which is what my avchd camcorder uses.

so i'm thinking tht would be the way to have all the separate .ts files play seamlessly the way they do from avchd camcorder connected to ps3 via usb.

just use tsremux to remux each .ts file to bluray and all into the same Stream folder then you can use a fat32 ext. hdd and if it has the BDMV folder with allt he sub folders and then your .m2ts files in the stream folder, they should play seamlessly one after another without notice from a fat32 ext. hdd via usb to ps3.

for now i'm just going to try the already merged .ts file remuxed to bluray .m2ts

easiest way is probably just using HDTV2MPEG2 which supposedly takes the .ts mpeg-2 and makes it a .mpg mpeg-2 ps.

oops just realized i set HDTV2MPEG2 to do sep clips. so i'll try those on the fat32 ext hdd but will redo it to one clip.
so many options to try i hope i dont get mixed up and fine one works well.


edit:

I've resolved myself at using HDTV2MPEG2 to remux the .ts (mpeg-2 ts) to a .mpg (mpeg-2 ps) as it also gives the option to split the file. So that works for my fat32 ext. hdd and this way i save room on the ps3 internal for the mkv's that I dont want to have to split first before using mkv2vob on them.

I think its just not the best release with some glitches maybe but its the only hd version available (1080i and was wondering if Super's deinterlace option would make it 1080p but Super was taking to long to make an mpeg-2 .mpg from the .ts. Prob a not so great and apparently a tv cap, unless using the dos command .bat .ts merge method messed up the resulting .ts. 3r said that was the best method as opposed to a prog someoen else mentioned. I would think it would be teh cleanest method that doestn' touch the video at all.

there was a 720p wmvhd of this movie i was dealing with her but it had dutch subs which are very distracting and all but ruin the movie. It was made from an x264 mkv though so there was one out there at some point. rather then waiting for it to show back up (reposted or the like) I figured id just use the .ts muxed to 2 .mpg (mpeg-2 ps).

morpheus0815
18th January 2008, 11:13
You are correct. I can stream it, copy it to the ps3 hd and it still studders and yes its mpeg2.
I can play the file on my pc in vob format using nero, but it studders in that as well. I just updated my nero recode to v3 and it converted the mkv file to mp4 with 5.1 audio that plays on the ps3 with no audio sync problems. Nero recode had a hard time with mkv's but maybe this new update works better. Anyone else try it?

Basically 1080p mkv to vob studder
720p mkv to vob no studder.
no matter what file size it is.

Weird.
Sample clips anyone?

@wabbster
How did you get Recode3 to accept the mkv? When I try that I always crashes or tells me to make sure that my file is not DRM protected and plays on my computer. Well, I can say for sure that it's not DRM and it sure does play, at least in VLC...

pjclay27
18th January 2008, 16:29
What is the average time for muxing to vob with mkv2vob for 720p with 5.1 audio. The beginning post states a few minutes. On average, mine take anywhere from 30-45 minutes.

jamos
18th January 2008, 16:46
What is the average time for muxing to vob with mkv2vob for 720p with 5.1 audio. The beginning post states a few minutes. On average, mine take anywhere from 30-45 minutes.


just muxing and no reencoding for a 6 gig. file takes around 10 minutes with my core2duo.

pjclay27
18th January 2008, 16:50
I don't know what's taking so long. I only have a P4 2.4Ghz processor so I know it's not the fastest.

jamos
18th January 2008, 17:21
I don't know what's taking so long. I only have a P4 2.4Ghz processor so I know it's not the fastest.

sounds about right with a p4. my computer is very new and using sata2 4 gig ram etc.

pjclay27
18th January 2008, 17:44
I don't mind the wait though. Mkv2vob is a great program. One other question though. I am trying a mkv that is split into two. When I choose automatic it goes through the normal process and opens the h264 info windows, which from what I remember reading is it doesn't need transcoded. When I try the second mkv it automatically starts muxing. Is this normal?

I don't like to split mkv's but this mkv won't fit on DVD+R DL. I normally just burn on DL but this file is almost 9Gb.

3r1c
18th January 2008, 17:57
Because mpeg2 vobs are larger they require faster disc access and network to stream.
Especially 1080p can be 15mbit or more.

Are you sure your pc/network is fast enough?

Try copy it to the PS3 hdd and then play it.

jamos
18th January 2008, 18:54
I don't mind the wait though. Mkv2vob is a great program. One other question though. I am trying a mkv that is split into two. When I choose automatic it goes through the normal process and opens the h264 info windows, which from what I remember reading is it doesn't need transcoded. When I try the second mkv it automatically starts muxing. Is this normal?

I don't like to split mkv's but this mkv won't fit on DVD+R DL. I normally just burn on DL but this file is almost 9Gb.

I think when you spit, your second mkv doesnt have the correct header info that mkv2vob needs to determine to set the lvl to 4.1. best to use never transcode option I beleive for the second mkv. 3r could give you better info than I about splitting mkvs and using mkv2vob. Or just use the original full mkv and transfer it to your harddrive after it is muxed into a vob as there is no limit to size on the internal ps3 harddrive. Tversity hosted on your pc then you can see it on your ps3 then choose transfer from your ps3.

pjclay27
18th January 2008, 20:05
I tried using mkv2vob with second mkv and when I played on computer or streamed, it freezes at the beginning and then plays fine. The original mkv is over 8Gb so it won't fit on DL. Most mkv's I have will fit on DVD-R but the mkv is 3 hours. How long does it take to copy to PS3 HDD?

jamos
18th January 2008, 20:54
I tried using mkv2vob with second mkv and when I played on computer or streamed, it freezes at the beginning and then plays fine. The original mkv is over 8Gb so it won't fit on DL. Most mkv's I have will fit on DVD-R but the mkv is 3 hours. How long does it take to copy to PS3 HDD?

depends on your network speed. if you using wireless prolly around 2 hours for 8 gig.

jamos
18th January 2008, 20:58
yes and I am sure that is also what is causing the video/audio sync issues. I personally make all my mkv files from various sources and I have no issues with video/audio sync or playback so I am sure its just crappy downloaded mkv files that these folks are using.

also 3r did you try the besweet option I listed in a above post? it really does help the dts conversions..they sound better then the ac3 original titles I have.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )


Actually i do not like the boost effect on my receiver. yes it is louder but almost distorted on center channel. So for dts sources this is what I currently use to reencode to ac3.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

3r1c
19th January 2008, 00:13
BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

The purpose of mkv2vob is to convert and make and make the files playable, not to modify or "enhance" it.

The professional sound engineers at the movie studios produce the DTS and set the channels to give the best sound, if your sound system isnt good enough that it needs a boost you should probably buy a better one.

3r1c
19th January 2008, 00:15
I don't know what's taking so long. I only have a P4 2.4Ghz processor so I know it's not the fastest.

For remuxing without transcoding the main bottleneck is your disc read/write, speed not processor.

The best thing you can do to increase speed is to defragment your hard drive.

3r1c
19th January 2008, 00:17
I don't mind the wait though. Mkv2vob is a great program. One other question though. I am trying a mkv that is split into two. When I choose automatic it goes through the normal process and opens the h264 info windows, which from what I remember reading is it doesn't need transcoded. When I try the second mkv it automatically starts muxing. Is this normal?

You are correct that if the h264info window opens it does not need transcoding, so the correct thing to do is to select "never transcode" on the second half.

pjclay27
19th January 2008, 00:22
3r1c, do you stream your mkv's or do you copy them to PS3 HDD.

margaan
19th January 2008, 01:11
Thx for the great tool. I have 2 questions tho:

I just used the tool to make a vob out of a 720p mkv. It plays well on my computer (VLC) but somehow it plays "fast" on my PS3. Its like fast forward *2. Any idea what might be wrong?

And I have loaded a 1080p mkv with the tool which - now as vob - studders on the PS3. Is that normal? Without transcoding I dont get any picture at all.

Thxy