DVD Rebuilder Encoder. Which one to use?

[alexVS]

I want to backup DVD9 to DVD5. IMHO the best program, that can do this conversion is DVD Rebuilder PRO. But there are some options in this program and I can't decide for myself which encoder is better (which one produce the picture most close to original one). And I can't do any tests to find out which is faster.

The options are:
CCE mode
ReJig mode
QuEnc mode
HC mode
ProCoder mode

Can somebody help with advice or recommendation?

P.S. If there's some program, that has the same functionality as DVD Rebuilder, but works faster and has the same quality, tell me please.

[pandy]

rejig is very fast and for normall use is ok, QuEnc recode mpeg so it will be much more slower than rejig, hc is similar to quenc but it is IMHO a better quality solution.
cce and procoder is for owner of commercial software (cce is rather expensive) sa i prefer hc.
At first try to use rejig and decide by yourself it is ok for you or not.

[alexVS]

Does Rejig provide better quality then DVDShrink?

[jdobbs]

No. They both ReJig and DVDShrink use within-the-compressed-domain transcoding. DVDShrink usually looks a little better. Any of the other DVD-RB options should give significantly better output than DVDShrink, though.

[jfcarbel]

I have been away from the scene for some time now, but last time I looked at DVD Rebuilder and read opinions it seemed that the encoder for the best quality was CCE. There seemed to be a clear consensus on that.

Transcoding aside, it looks like since I have been away that 2 new encoders have been impressing many: HC and QuEnc.

From what I have been reading is that in terms of speed they are all close. I am curious though if users with high end quad core do see one significantly edging out the others in speed.

Now in terms of quality, has there been any MPEG-2 encoder shootouts like doom9 did for codecs but for encodes of DVD based material?

UPDATE: I did find this shootout (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=57235&page=4). Seems to favor non-CCE encoders. But its an old thread from 2005. I also did read that HC tends to size better and that CCE can oversize often.

And if price was not an issue, would CCE still be top dog?

jdobbs - have you seen a significant recent movement away from CCE to these other options by a portion of your user base? Are many now going with HC? I ask since you deal daily with people using the product and are thus more knowledgeable to form an educated guess.

[flebber]

Following on from this if I want to use HC encoder with DVD rebuilder as using the afformentioned guide http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvdrb.htm what is the best wrapper to allow HC to be used in Rebuilder ?

There is Qu2HC http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144138

[blutach]

Just select HCEnc from the Mode --> Encoder menu.

Regards

[manolito]

@flebber
The guide you linked to is written for DVB-RB free edition (current version is 0.98.2). While the pro version has full support for HC (as blutach mentioned), the free version does not.

But this does not mean that you cannot use HC together with the free version of DVD-RB. HC's command line interface is very similar to QuEnc, so you can just specify the HCenc executable instead of QuEnc.exe in the DVD-RB setup.

Using a wrapper like Qu2HC or HC_D2S additionally improves HC support by either translating the few incompatible command line parameters (DC precision, Closed GOPs, 1Pass) from the QuEnc format into HC format (HC_D2S) or by creating the corresponding HC.ini settings from the QuEnc command line parameters (Qu2HC).


Cheers
manolito