What's Up With Blade-House Of Chthon???

[rudy35]

Just found something unusual with this movie. Total DVD size-->11 GB. When try to open with DVDFab...main movie is 8 mins. long(310 MB). Any ideas???? Thanks

[buckster67]

i got the same problem and also with floodrayne 2

[rudy35]

I didn't have a problem with bloodrayne 2. Maybe someone can shed some light on what's up??

[buckster67]

well for some reason i can only get about 5 minutes of the movie on my shrink when i use ripit4me all the VTS's are skipped because there empty

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Although both are likely due to copy protection (Perhaps the same type as was used on the German release, "Das Parfum"), have you PLAYED the original DVD on your PC, to make certain you don't have a flawed DVD?

Post a list of ALL filenames and filesizes included on the original DVDs.

Try the following:

1) Reboot your system

2) BEFORE loading the DVD, try FIRST starting RipIt4Me and selecting either "Wizard" or "One-click" mode - and THEN load the DVD

[rudy35]

Here's what I tried:

1. Played DVD in both Power DVd and WinDVD- No problems! Plays Fine!
2. Rebooted pc-opened ripit4me-one click option-Full DVD-ripit4me shuts down after tring to read dvd-tried different drive-same results:

Can't post log..to many characters!

[setarip_old]

@rudy35

Although it may or may not yield any useful information, I asked that you, "Post a list of ALL filenames and filesizes included on the original DVDs", not to post the RipIt4Me log...

[rudy35]

Total DVD Size: 11.0 GB

Opened:
AUDIO_TS Folder
VIDEO_TS Folder
Jacket_P folder
common folder
win folder

._.DS_Store-DS_STORE file-1 KB
.DS_Store-DS_STORE file-7 KB
AUTORUN-setup information-1 KB
autorun.mcl-mcl file-1 KB
disc.id-id file- 1 KB
ialaunch-installation mananger-sonic solutions-884 KB
IAPlayer.dmg-dmg file-1521 KB
install-Install Chain Loader for Legacy InterActual Player installs-48.2 KB
iti-124x124-png image-6.81 KB
iti_st1-300x300-png image-19.9 KB
MacOS-HTML Document-7 KB
README-HTML Document-23 KB

U Need the VIDEO_TS contents also????

[setarip_old]

U Need the VIDEO_TS contents also????Most definitely ;>}

1) Couldn't help but notice the MAC-related ".DS_Store" files. Is this an Original, Commercial DVD or "something else"?

2) When you ran RipIt4Me and then loaded the DVD, did RipIt4Me generate a notification that it had pre-empted the running of an Autorun file?

[rudy35]

Yes this is a commercial..region 1..store bought dvd. As far as ripit..then only this i could do was..open software..choose one click..drive letter...reading ifo's...and then comepletely shutdown...no autorun notification.

In common folder:

base folder
images folder
jsLib folder
mcesetup folder
setup folder
upgflash folder
xml folder
index-HTML Document-5 KB
load-HTML document-4 KB
mac_default-HTML document-3 KB
MCE_default
mediainf-XML document-1 KB
mediainf.dtd-DTD file-5 KB
no_page_margin-Cascading Style Sheet Document-1 KB
page_style-Cascading Style Sheet Document-1 KB
vidplay-HTML Document-1 KB

In Jacket_p folder:
J00___5L
J00___5M
J00___5S

In win folder:
setup folder
skins folder

In setup folder:
cabinets folder
THIRDPTYfolder-empty
IADefDVD.dll-1.18.12.1221-IADefDVD-201 KB
IAIEPlay.dll-1.17.11.620-IAIEPlay Module-243 KB
IAMCE.dll-1.9.11.620-IAMCE-141 KB
INUNINST.exe-Uninstaller-Sonic Solutions-171 KB
INUNINST.ini-configuration settings-12 KB
iPlayer.ico-32x32-icon-4.59 KB
Register.dat-dat file-1 KB
UPDATE.DAT-dat file-8 KB


In VIDEO_TS folder:
VIDEO_TS.IFO-54 KB
VIDEO_TS.VOB-55,514 KB
VIDEO_TS.BUP-28 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO-7,056 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP-7,956 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB-522 KB
VTS_02_0.IFO-22 KB
VTS_02_0.VOB-136,514 KB
VTS_02_0.BUP-807,080 KB
VTS_02_1.VOB-1,048,530 KB
VTS_02_1.VOB-1,048,530 KB
VTS_02_1.VOB-1,048,530 KB
VTS_02_2.VOB-1,048,142 KB
VTS_02_3.VOB-1,048,318 KB
VTS_02_4.VOB-1,048,280 KB
VTS_02_5.VOB-153,522 KB
VTS_03_0.IFO-12 KB
VTS_03_0.BUP-8,000 KB
VTS_03_1.VOB-12,236 KB
VTS_04_0.IFO-14 KB
VTS_04_0.BUP-8,000 KB
VTS_04_1.VOB-12,236 KB
VTS_05_0.IFO-12 Kb
VTS_05_0.BUP-8,000 KB
VTS_05_1.VOB-4,400 KB
VTS_06_0.IFO-7,044 KB
VTS_06_0.BUP-4,314 KB
VTS_06_1.VOB-168,702 KB
VTS_07_0.IFO-7,576 KB
VTS_07_0.BUP-5,072 KB
VTS_07_1.VOB-47,870 KB
VTS_08_0.IFO-14 KB
VTS_08_0.BUP-8,000 KB
VTS_08_1.VOB-522 KB
VTS_09_0.IFO-6,144 KB
VTS_09_0.BUP-7,664 KB
VTS_09_1.VOB-522 KB
VTS_10_0.IFO-4,932 KB
VTS_10_0.VOB-90 KB
VTS_10_0.BUP-5,862 KB
VTS_10_1.VOB-1,048,524 KB
VTS_10_2.VOB-1,048,210 KB
VTS_10_3.VOB-504,378 KB
VTS_11_0.IFO-5,780 KB
VTS_11_0.VOB-88 KB
VTS_11_0.BUP-4,530 KB
VTS_11_1.VOB-317,934 KB
VTS_12_0.IFO-6 KB
VTS_12_0.IFO-1,048,000 KB

PS- Look at VTS 2- Has duplicates...

[setarip_old]

I believe this is the type of copy protection I speculated about earlier.

If I remember correctly (although I may be wrong - It's an age thing ;>}), both AnyDVD and DVDFab
HD Decrypter (try the very latest beta version of DVDFab HD Decrypter, that supposedly uses a new technology of tracing actual playback) are supposed to be capable of handling this...

[Carolina Mike]

Neither AnyDVD or DVDFAB HD Decrypter will work at this time but give them time and they will figure it out

[setarip_old]

@Carolina Mike

Hi!

Have you specifically tried DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.1.9.0 Beta

http://www.dvdfab.com/DVDFabHDDecrypter3190Beta.exe

on the specific DVD referred to by "rudy35"?

[linx05]

AnyDVD has not yet released their AI Scanner(tm) to the public yet.

[mc2man]

the multiple VTS_02_1.VOBs are not on the disk, probably just in the ifo. am presently ripping, should take 30-60 min. Will be interesting to see if the rip completes and if so how hard/easy it is to repair

[dtvhacker]

this is a new protection that came out nothing will rip it so far believe me i tried newest fab newest any dvd rip it 4 me and several other programs but i seen on one site they were working on its called pathplayer i believe i maybe wrong on the name i can rip everything on the dvd except the main movie altho i did put in a macrovision dvd recorder and played with another to record it for the time being untill a ripper can fully do the whole movie i never seen anything like this is all my dvd back up days

[setarip_old]

@dtvhacker

Hi!

In fact, "PathPlayer" is the new concept included in DVDFab HD Decrypter v.3.1.9.0 beta...

[Carolina Mike]

@Carolina Mike

Hi!

Have you specifically tried DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.1.9.0 Beta

http://www.dvdfab.com/DVDFabHDDecrypter3190Beta.exe

on the specific DVD referred to by "rudy35"?


Yes I tried it and the new version that came out today and it is no go.

[dtvhacker]

yes it suppose to be included in todays release but i had no success just locks up

[smokeyez1977]

yes i fully agree dvdfab beta will not do this blade or bloodrayne i know it said a couple of weeks ago the new update would do blades of glory to and i know people that said it worked for them but all i got was a skipping backup so kids have to have me load that disc along with these till i get them backed up

[setarip_old]

Yes, it seems that the "PathPlayer" process, supposedly included in DVDFab HD Decrypter v.3.1.9.0, failed completely with "Blade-House Of Chthon".

For me, it locked up after 74 seconds...

[rudy35]

Well time to break out the dvd recorder for the time being.... I guess... Thanks to everyone who summited there feedback. Much appreciated!!

[setarip_old]

I understand that "Digi", the author of DVD95Copy Pro is presently working on a solution.

Time will tell...

[dtvhacker]

@smokeeyez1977 you shouldn have any problems with bloodrayne 2 at all bud any dvd didn detect any protection like blade i read with dvd shrink and burnt fine did u try it right after blade cause man the computers acts weird with blade its slow and crap

[smokeyez1977]

no i didnt try it right after blade but i tried dvdfab no luck and rip4me no luck but in r4m it said it didnt find any protection so i think i will take it back to store and get a knew one tomorrow prob bad pressing or something if know body else is having any problems thanks

[setarip_old]

Good ol' SmartRipper (I used v.2.40) will readily rip a "movie only" version of "Blade - House of Chthon" ;>}

[mc2man]

Worst case it took 4 hrs. to rip manually. it looks like it will be a little bit of work to square up, though I'm sure those who know alot more than me about ifo's and vobs could breeze through it
the major area's were
vts_02_1 - 2063 block errors over about 64mb
vts_02_5 - 2124 block errors - most of vts , 1:09 end of movie

vts's 05, 07, 08, 09, - garbage
vts 03, 04 splash screens
vts 10, 11 good
vts 12 complete garbage - aborted after 16,000,000 errors (run by so fast can't see
disk is 7.2gb

[RAYCHARLES101]

ripit4me had no problems with bloodrayne2.....its blade thats being the headache.....it gets so far then crashes....weird

[RAYCHARLES101]

well i'm about to say goodbye to Blade and the backup....i've tried all that i know to back it up....dvdfab,ripit4me and smartrip.....just cant get it to backup....if theres a way i don't see it...lol...can anyone shed some light on this...thanks in advance

[setarip_old]

@RAYCHARLES101

Hi!

As I stated earlier in this thread, SmartRipper (v.2.40, set to "Movie") can very quickly and easily make a "movie only" copy of "Blade-House Of Chthon"...

[RAYCHARLES101]

i give up....i guess i'm missing it...too tough for the kid...:confused:

[stugots2]

any breakthroughs?

[linx05]

It appears DVD95Copy (http://www.dvd95copy.com) is the first commercial ripper to successfully complete a full DVD rip. Congrats to digi!

Forum link: http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/about9633.html

[blutach]

Stugots2 - please observe rules 1 and 1a. Thanks

Regards

[pja69]

how long does it take,been over 2 hours with little to show for it?

[setarip_old]

It appears DVD95Copy is the first commercial ripper to successfully complete a full DVD rip. Congrats to digi!And, from the time I initially made him aware of this DVD, it took him less than a week to do so. (See my 9/19 post in this thread)

So much for the "gloom and doom" posters at other forums, saying it would likely be a year or so to break this ugly mess ;>}

[Darth Sidious]

It appears that DVDHDFab Decrypter has been updated to version 3.1.9.5. According to CD freaks, that version should be able to handle the file structure. Any one tried it yet?

[Wombler]

It appears that DVDHDFab Decrypter has been updated to version 3.1.9.5. According to CD freaks, that version should be able to handle the file structure. Any one tried it yet?

No reports back yet but then the update was only posted an hour ago.

They'll not be long coming in though.


Wombler

[Wombler]

No reports back yet but then the update was only posted an hour ago.

They'll not be long coming in though.





First reports are that it works.


Wombler

[setarip_old]

DVD95Copy v.39.102 made a perfect "Full Copy" - including fully functional fast forward and fast reverse...

EDIT - "Rip" mode worked perfectly, as well ;>}

("1:1" IMG mode seems to need additional work)

[linx05]

I think the only thing stopping the major DVD rippers from updating their programs any quicker is the time it takes for a DVD to be shipped to them.

[setarip_old]

BTW - Whoever did the "Audio equalized for DVD" for this disc should be shot (Figuratively speaking, of course). There are parts of the dialog that can simply not be heard at any volume (e.g. Cops at the door advising of Zack's death), whether you select the 2 channel or 5.1 audiotrack...

[blutach]

Assuming you are not a lipreader, how did you know they advised about his death then? :D :D

Regards

[setarip_old]

Assuming you are not a lipreader, how did you know they advised about his death then?I guess you've never heard of subtitles...

[Wombler]

BTW - Whoever did the "Audio equalized for DVD" for this disc should be shot (Figuratively speaking, of course). There are parts of the dialog that can simply not be heard at any volume (e.g. Cops at the door advising of Zack's death), whether you select the 2 channel or 5.1 audiotrack...

That's pretty bad. That should never happen.

I've a few discs where the sound is muffled and difficult to make out but completely unintelligible is totally inexcusable.


Wombler

[Fishman0919]

From Doom9 main page...


DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.1.9.5 (http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm) supports the latest corrupt disc (Blade: House of Chthon) and contains an updated PathPlayer.

lol, looks like they already updated to DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.0.0 (http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm)

[Wombler]

From Doom9 main page...




lol, looks like they already updated to DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.0.0 (http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm)

Yeah 3.1.9.5 was a beta.

3.2.0.0 is the full release candidate.


Wombler

[setarip_old]

Has anyone posting here successfully used any version of DVDFab HD Decrypter to rip "Blade - House of Chthon", or is DVD95Copy v.3.9.102 presently the only program to do so?

[blutach]

I have seen posts at other forums saying 3.1.9.5 did it successfully.

Regards

[setarip_old]

I have seen posts at other forums saying 3.1.9.5 did it successfully.Would you please be good enough to provide links to any/all such posts?

[blutach]

See http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1892086&postcount=20 and http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1891984&postcount=97

Regards

[Fishman0919]

I pick up a copy on my lunch break today.
I will post my result when I get home.

[setarip_old]

@blutach

Thank you for the links...

So we now have two proven programs for dealing with this type of protection - DVD95Copy and DVDFab HD Decrypter

[Fishman0919]

Yes, DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.0.0 does rip Blade-House Of Chthon with out a problem.

[pja69]

once ripped with smartripper how do you get to a video_ts

[setarip_old]

once ripped with smartripper how do you get to a video_tsIf you mean "VIDEO_TS.IFO", if I remember correctly, I used the also ancient software, the ORIGINAL DVDFab (Nothing to do with the DVDFab Decrypter group of programs with similar names) to "Create Video Manager".

You can download the ORIGINAL DVDFab from:

www.mrbass.org

[setarip_old]

I'm mildly surprised that nothing capable of processing this DVD's protection scheme has yet been released by the AnyDVD folks...

[linx05]

The disc is still on the way setarip.

[setarip_old]

@linx05

Hi!The disc is still on the way setarip.I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean - What disc is still on the way to where?

[linx05]

The last I heard the DVD, Blade - House of Chthon, is on its way to Slysoft HQ. Along with the other DVDs with new protections. That is why they have not released a new version combating these problems.

[setarip_old]

Although I'm sure Slysoft will eventually come up with its own solution (and that really all that counts), I doubt that shipping/mailing/FedEx, etc. from the US (R1) to Antigua (one of the Caribbean islands off the coast of the Americas) is slower than shipping to Germany or mainland China - unless, of course, Slysoft, for some reason, first became aware of this protection much later than those who have already provided solutions...

[linx05]

Whatever the cause, they'll have a release out soon. You can always count on them.

[SamuriHL]

Maybe they get them in China quicker because that's where they're made? :D Slysoft will get an update out sometime this week. Give them time. It's also possible they're working on their new feature to AnyDVD, as well. I will admit that this is definitely unusually long in terms of an update. Blade has been out for a week and 2 days now. But if they're working on several new protections at once it could take them a bit longer.

[rudy35]

I know as I was updating to the current version the other day (V 3.2.0), they claim they had a fix for it. But I tried it with "No Luck"!! Their fix doesn't fix the issue.

[SamuriHL]

Version 3.2.0.0 definitely rips Blade HoC with no issues. I used Full Disc mode and the backup was fine.

[setarip_old]

@rudy35

1) Have you tried the freeware version, DVDFab HD Decrypter v.3.2.0.0?

2) Have you tried DVD95Copy or DVD95Copy Pro v.3.9.102?

[linx05]

Maybe you have a bad disc rudy35? Check the DVD out with CDSpeed.

[rudy35]

I know as I was updating to the current version the other day (V 3.2.0), they claim they had a fix for it. But I tried it with "No Luck"!! Their fix doesn't fix the issue.

I just want to appologize to everyone, when I posted this I only tried dvd decrypter plat in "movie only" mode. If fact it does rip perfectly in "full dvd" mode. And plays fine also. I'm sorry!

[SamuriHL]

No big deal, rudy35...we're just happy you got it figured out. :)

[setarip_old]

As an update to my earlier post in this thread, the currently available download of DVD95CopyPro (v.3.9.103) has added a properly functioning "1:1 copy" to the already perfect "Rip mode" and "Full Copy" mode...

[SamuriHL]

Also, the leaked private beta of AnyDVD 6.1.7.5 is also able to handle this title. In fact, it handles it so well that DVD Shrink is able to open the disc directly with AnyDVD running. I'm very impressed with the new technology.

[nevragain]

awesome thanks for all the hard wokk

[setarip_old]

As a related update, see my post regarding "Full of It" at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1050036&postcount=7

It may very well be that the ENTIRETY of possible "Junior-type protection" combinations may have already been proven to be futile...

My hat is off to "Digi", the DVD95Copy author, as well as any others whose programs prove able to deal with the "Full of It" variations.

[SamuriHL]

Also of note is that there's a new beta for DVDFab 3.2.0.5 but unfortunately some people are experiencing some issues with it. All of the bugs found in 3.1.9.5 beta and 3.2.0.0 have been fixed, however. FengTao made it so that PathPlayer is only used when the regular ripping function has found an error which should speed things up quite a bit. Once this version fixes the new bugs that have been found, this will be a great solution for people, as well. It handles Blade HoC and Full of It with no problems.

[setarip_old]

@SamuriHL

Looks like DVDFab HD Decrypter was still problematic. They've since released another beta, v.3.2.0.6...

[SamuriHL]

Yea, the new version seems better according to what I've read.

[RAYCHARLES101]

DVDFAB 3.2.0.0 did the job in 17 minutes ...no problem :)

[zap13]

@SamuriHL

Looks like DVDFab HD Decrypter was still problematic. They've since released another beta, v.3.2.0.6...

First timmer: Where can i find the free versions of dvd95copy,dvdfab HD decypter and ripit4me.

[setarip_old]

@zap13

Hi!

DVD95Copy is not freeware...

[zap13]

@zap13

Hi!

DVD95Copy is not freeware...

How about fab HD or ripit?

[SamuriHL]

http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

[zap13]

http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

thanks.