New Decrypting Method

[poisson]

If this is the only disk that is misbehaving, then your reader is probably OK . . .

OK. Here's the thing. I've obtained my, at least 2nd but hopefully, 3rd copy (it's a possibility I may have been given back the 1st one . . ??) of this movie and it would appear I'm having exactly the same hassles.

What I can be sure about is;
I've ripped many a movie from disks that have all pretty much come from the same source. They've all been in slightly used but good condition. This movie is the ONLY movie I've had issues with.
From what I can tell, (could be wrong) those issues have occured in exactly the same place in the movie.

So my procedure has been;

Start with Ripit4me which puts DVDDecrypter to work. It does (movie only) it's job (seemingly) without a hitch, reports no errors.

(At this point, may I copy in the Ripit4me log)

I 21:35:29: RipIt4Me Version 1.7.1.0
I 21:35:29: Starting 1-click Ripping Procedure at 21:34:48
I 21:35:29: Running Windows XP Service Pack 2
I 21:35:29: DVD Decrypter version: 3.5.4.0
I 21:35:29: DVD Shrink version 3.2.0.15
I 21:35:29: _________________________
I 21:35:29: SPTI layer available
I 21:35:29: _________________________
I 21:35:29: Ripping mode: Movie Only
I 21:35:29: Main title(s):
I 21:35:29: Title 1 (VTS 1 PGCs 1) -- 2:12:17s -- 16:9
I 21:35:29: Selected title for rip: Title 1 (VTS 1 PGC 1)
I 21:35:29: Remove Protected Cells = On
I 21:35:29: Remove Tiny Cells = On
I 21:35:29: Remove Useless Menu Cells = On
I 21:35:29: Bypass Annoying PGCs = Off
I 21:35:29: Remove Last VTS = On
I 21:35:29: Blank Bogus VTS = On
I 21:35:29: Cleanup VOBs on Full DVD = On
I 21:35:29: Rip JACKET_P folder = Off
I 21:35:29: Copy IFO mode = 2
I 21:35:29: DVD Decrypter IFO parsing mode = 1
I 21:35:29: VOB Scan: Scan cells lasting less than: 300
I 21:35:29: BOV VOBU Stride = 30
I 21:35:29:
I 21:35:29: Copying original IFOs into target directory
I 21:35:29: DVD Volume Label: THE_LIVES_OF_OTHERS
I 21:35:29: Loading IFOs
I 21:35:29: Region code: 4
I 21:35:29: Video Format: PAL
I 21:35:29: Done opening IFOs
I 21:35:29: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 21:35:30: CRC32 value = 0x7A642FFD
I 21:35:30: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 21:35:30: Done creating PSL file
I 21:35:30: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 21:35:35: Done importing the PSL file, now starting ripping...
I 22:09:11: Done ripping ...
I 22:09:11: Decrypter ripping time: 00:33:41
I 22:09:11: _________________________
I 22:09:13: Loading IFOs
I 22:09:13: DVD is region-free
I 22:09:15: Scanning VTS 1 for BOVs
I 22:09:18: 0 Button(s) Over Video found in all VTS
I 22:09:18: Video Format: PAL
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 6 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 8 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 9 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 10 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 11 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 12 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 13 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 14 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 15 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 16 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 17 is protected
I 22:09:19: VTS 1 PGC 1 Cell 19 is protected
I 22:09:19: Found 12 protected cells
I 22:09:19: Found no unreferenced titleset.
I 22:09:19: Checking for potential read errors caused by scratches on the disc.
I 22:09:19: WARNING: Possible scratch/dirt on VTS 1 PGC 1 (missing 4187 sec.)

At this point a Ripit4me dialoue box pops up saying (paraphrase) "Your disk is dirty and/or scratched. Would you like to remove, clean and replace disk in drive and let Ripit re rip the problem files?". Once I click yes, DVD Decrypter seems to get thru VOB files 1 & 2 OK but all hell breaks loose in VOB files 3 & 4 and beyond. And, as I've said b4, it soon all comes to a grinding halt . . . . !!??

Is there just a small chance that this isn't a coincidence and that there is some different encryption thing or SOME thing going on with this particular movie rather than straight out "damaged disk"?
May I state again, I've NEVER had an issue with any other movie and that they've ALL been in similar condition and from the same original source. . . .!!??

Thanx for reading this. Thought somebody might be interested although they'd prob just wanna have their "technical" hat on . . . ??

:eek:

[blutach]

With that log, it is obviously a protected DVD.

Is there just a small chance that this isn't a coincidence and that there is some different encryption thing or SOME thing going on with this particular movie rather than straight out "damaged disk"?
Yes, of course it's possible. Who knows what new things have come out recently? I'm sorry, but I really can't assist you on this matter.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@poisson

1) Have you PLAYED your purchased DVD (both on your PC and your standalone DVD player) to see if it plays back properly? If it doesn't play back properly, you can be fairly certain that there's a physical problem with the DVD.

(On the other hand, if it plays back properly, that DOESN'T prove that the DVD is okay)

2)ME - You didn't, I hope, have this brand new purchased DVD polished BEFORE you tried copying it, did you?
You - Er . . . . I did actually . . . ?
They've all been in slightly used but good condition.I guess you and I have a different understanding of "brand new". Anything, in the way of problems, can exist on a used (rather than new) DVD.

I'd suggest you get a refund and purchase an unsullied NEW (Unused) DVD...

[poisson]

[QUOTE=setarip_old;1072594] . . . Have you [COLOR="DarkRed"]PLAYED your purchased DVD (both on your PC and your standalone DVD player) to see if it plays back properly? . . . [QUOTE]

Yes it does play back properly on both units.

[poisson]

. . . I'd suggest you . . . purchase an unsullied NEW (Unused) DVD . . .

OK. But I'm betting my sox that there's an encryption thang going on with this particular DVD that all the groove decryption programs ain't got "covered" at this point in time.
:)

[setarip_old]

It's possible that there is some new version of SONY encryption on only the R4 version of this DVD - but, if so, I'm sure it would have become common knowledge by now - unless, of course the R4 version had JUST been released - but the R4 version was released on 8/15/07...

[jinjin_jp]

The problem of DVDFabDecrypter and AnyDVD which removes playable cells has not been fixed at all for about a month though many update.
It seems to be very difficult to fix.

Regards.

AnyDVD 6.3.0.1beta fixed the problem in "8 BELOW" in Japan.
Thanks a lot.

Regards.

[fengtao]

Hi jinjin_jp,

Please check your PM, thanks.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[jinjin_jp]

Hi jinjin_jp,

Please check your PM, thanks.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

Hi fengtao.

I checked and replyed in PM.
There was no change in ifo.

Regards.

[Jeffster]

OK. But I'm betting my sox that there's an encryption thang going on with this particular DVD that all the groove decryption programs ain't got "covered" at this point in time.
:)
FWIW - I had no problem at all with the R4 version, and since I just used DVDDecrypter and nothing else I don't think there are any special protections. My only disappointment with it was the movie has permanent yellow subtitles... yuk! :(

[poisson]

. . . I had no problem at all with the R4 version, and since I just used DVDDecrypter and nothing else . . .


OK. I'm feeling a lot like a goose here. (A goose without sox that is!!)
After J's post I jumped onto my wifes laptop, downloaded DVDDecrypter and away I went with the said feature and Voilà!! . . . all files decrypted with no probs at all (and a lot faster than my reasonably modern desktop PC!)
So I guess there's something odd going on with my computer . . ??
I kinda don't feel TOO bad (he said, nearly convincing only himself!!) as I reckon I'd pretty much eliminated all other variables . . . I think . . ? And as I've said, this is the ONLY disk I've ever had an issue with!

Is there an emoticon for slinking away with your tail between your legs . . . ?? :o

[setarip_old]

You might want to try running a DVD/CD cleaning disc on your burner. Maxell makes one that sells for approximately $10US...

[poisson]

You might want to try running a DVD/CD cleaning disc on your burner . . .

I did that.
I believe my burner is possessed. Possessed by the spirit of Honecker!!

[setarip_old]

Shhhh... You don't know who may be listening ;>}

[jinjin_jp]

@poisson

Did you question me in PB ?
Did you noticed my reply to your question in PB?

Regards.

[jinjin_jp]

Hi jinjin_jp,

I think I find a way to fix the problem, and I'll find some time to do this job :)

Best Regards,
Fengtao

DVDFabHDDDecrypter 4.0.2.0beta fixed the problem in "8 BELOW" in Japan.
Thanks a lot.

Regards.

[Wombler]

DVDFabHDDDecrypter 4.0.2.0beta fixed the problem in "8 BELOW" in Japan.
Thanks a lot.

Regards.

Glad to hear it's finally sorted jinjin_jp and I'm sure Fengtao and all the guys here appreciate your considerable efforts.

Well done. :cool:


Wombler

[fengtao]

Without help of jinjin_jp, we cannot fix the problem easier.

Thank you!

[Episodio1]

Well, fengtao... and what was the problem in your code?

[Switchback]

Anyone have a link to this program? The link provided no longer works at the download website.

[Wombler]

Anyone have a link to this program? The link provided no longer works at the download website.

If you mean the latest beta of DVDFab HD Decrypter, you'll get it here.

http://72.55.133.121/download/DVDFabHDDecrypter4020Beta.exe


Wombler

[NubianBull]

Lately ive been having problems ripping from dVD... I dont know its because i switched over to nero 8 from nero 7.. not sure whats going on. The movies are starting from the middle or not starting at all. Should i go back to nero 7?

[blutach]

NubianBull

Please read rule 8 and do not cross post.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@NubianBull

Hi!

If you're using NERO v.8.xxx AUTOMATICALLY from within DVD Shrink, that certainly sould be the problem. Click on the following link:


http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1079676&postcount=9

Two solutions:

1) Turn OFF the automatic burning function and use NERO manually

2) Turn OFF the automatic burning function and use IMGBurn or similar