Vdubmod filtering how-to is feeling overwhelming

[tancients]

I've been trying to do lots of additional effects besides just 'encode, trim, resize' with my videos, but became completely lost in the options available Mainly because the multitude of terminology and algorithims aren't useful to me.

Dubmod has filters built in, but most just aren't what I'm looking for, or aren't familiar enough for me to know it IS what I'm looking for.

After not seeming to be able to get the encoding quality and filesize to where I was happy with it, a lot of people recommended windows movie maker. So I opened it up, tried it out.

While its a lot more user friendly from the get-go than dubmod is, it also steals away a lot of the control and fine-tuning I could do with vdubmod (Unless I just can't find out how to precisely trim a clip without feeling like I'm in 4th grade making a collage).

But I really like what they call 'video effects', which I assume is just filters. But looking around at Avisynth, none of it seems as 'noob-friendly' as 'sepia tone' and 'speeds up' (Which is just altering the I-frames or something that I don't understand well enough to tweak). Not to mention, things like embedding multiple clips (2 videos playing side-by-side in the same clip) or having a foreground filter that causes a static image (or even an avi clip) moving a different direction.

Transition effects were also pretty, and I could have occasional use for them, but again, completely clueless how to do any WYSIWYG with avisynth by itself, and vdubmod just doesn't have anything up what I'm looking for.

Is there a way in vdubmod to set filters to play for selected frames or just for a certain set? Or to have a filter 'move' (such as a merging frames together in a horizantal transition). Or is that all done purely through avs? The wiki seemed a lot more technical than I could grasp. None of the available filters listed seemed to do anything close to what I am looking for....

To summarize for those who don't want to read. How can I reproduce filter effects that are shown in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWz_ECjZpI&mode=user&search=

With vdubmod? And if not vdubmod, what about windows movie maker or some other (free or cheap) video editor?

Preferably, I'd like to be able to add all the filters and such, and trim and organize the movie how I want in vdub, and then try out encoding it with windows movie maker (via directstream copy I guess) to see if it provides desired results before I have to go back to the drawing board with vdubmod encoding again...

[Dark Shikari]

Theoretically that kind of editing can be done in AviSynth, but that looks fancy enough that I would outright refuse to even attempt it without a graphical nonlinear editor like Premiere simply due to the annoyance of doing it with a script editor.

/why do I know that the song in that video was from the 4th opening sequence for Gundam Seed?
//sad, isn't it?
///slashies

[tancients]

I seem to remember getting my hands on a movie editor a long while back that basically had multiple layers of video. Adobe premiere I guess is what you're referring to?

Wonder if its as precise as vdubmod...

[Dark Shikari]

I seem to remember getting my hands on a movie editor a long while back that basically had multiple layers of video. Adobe premiere I guess is what you're referring to?

Wonder if its as precise as vdubmod...
Premiere and VDubMod are two entirely different beasts.

Premiere, Vegas, Avid, etc all have similar interfaces in that they have multiple layers of video you can edit in a graphical editor.

VDubMod is not meant as a fancy NLE like they are.

[tancients]

Well, would vdub be able to do something like this with a bit of WYSIWYG? Or am I asking the impossible? ^^;

I'm hoping/attempting to make a few videos from the same game that the link I posted came from, but for everything but trimming, vdub has dissapointed. Filesize too big...quality too horrid....can't find the happy medium that I've been looking for, so I've been trying to focus on being able to get the video up to "needs to be encoded time" quality instead of just fraps dumps put into XviD encoding.

[Dark Shikari]

Well, would vdub be able to do something like this with a bit of WYSIWYG? Or am I asking the impossible? ^^;

I'm hoping/attempting to make a few videos from the same game that the link I posted came from, but for everything but trimming, vdub has dissapointed. Filesize too big...quality too horrid....can't find the happy medium that I've been looking for, so I've been trying to focus on being able to get the video up to "needs to be encoded time" quality instead of just fraps dumps put into XviD encoding.Filesize/quality is unrelated to the issue of video editing; that's an issue when the codec and settings you've chosen, not video editing.

VirtualDub is not a serious video editor for the kind of purposes you're looking at.

[thearklight]

I've been trying to do lots of additional effects besides just 'encode, trim, resize' with my videos, but became completely lost in the options available Mainly because the multitude of terminology and algorithims aren't useful to me.

But I really like what they call 'video effects', which I assume is just filters. But looking around at Avisynth, none of it seems as 'noob-friendly' as 'sepia tone' and 'speeds up' (Which is just altering the I-frames or something that I don't understand well enough to tweak). Not to mention, things like embedding multiple clips (2 videos playing side-by-side in the same clip) or having a foreground filter that causes a static image (or even an avi clip) moving a different direction.

Preferably, I'd like to be able to add all the filters and such, and trim and organize the movie how I want in vdub, and then try out encoding it with windows movie maker (via directstream copy I guess) to see if it provides desired results before I have to go back to the drawing board with vdubmod encoding again...

Welcome! I Edited your quotes abit.
Unfortunately what you are wanting
are two completely different things.
One is the capabilities of a video editor,
and the other is the capabilities of
an image processor like Virtualdub.

Avisynth can do even more things than virtualdub.
But i can see why one look at a avisynth
script for the first time might have sent you reeling.
stick to virtualdub,learn it till you hit a brick wall,
get comfortable, then onto avisynth.

I really hope the intro to filtering you are talking
about that left you a bit baffled isn't my intro...

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=14396&

because I really tried hard to make it easy for newbs
to understand with grahics etc.By the way
the animated gifs change every couple of
seconds for each step and are not still images.

The range of FX, filters are huge for Virtualdub.
Second only to photoshop in multitude.Plus these
specifically work for vids.So don't give up on it yet.

Heri

[tancients]

I've used vdubmod a lot for encoding and trimming, just never any actual special effects before.

I'll download the list of filters and check them out. Is there a way to set filters to start/end at certain frames? With vdubmod it looks like any filters I apply cover the entire avi.

[neuron2]

Is there a way to set filters to start/end at certain frames? You can use the filter blending feature for this in the latest version of VirtualDub.

[sumpm1]

Hi, Vdub and VdubMod are LINEAR editors made for cutting commercials, filtering, and encoding/transcoding. You are looking for something much fancier, like others said; Premiere or After Effects (the most expensive apps on earth lol.)

My suggestion is that if you are REALLY interested in creating videos similar to the one you posted, try Magix Movie Edit Pro: http://www.magix.com/uk/movie-edit-pro/

Here is a few reviews of Movie edit

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/100189/magix-movie-edit-pro-11.html
http://products.howstuffworks.com/magix-movie-edit-pro-11-review.htm
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1777473,00.asp