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castellanos
4th August 2007, 20:03
Hi there!
HD TV, I thought HD (in the sense of Hi Definition) had nothing to do with HD or Blu-ray specifically ... but I think I'm wrong. If you buy a HD ready TV, and you want to see a Blue-ray movie, it's not possible?
I've red the article appointed by Domm9 in the news... I was shocked!
I'm sorry for my ignorance. :rolleyes:
Greetings!

mitsubishi
4th August 2007, 20:56
In Europe "HD ready" is a certification allowed only if:

1) Has minimum 720 horizontal display pixels.
2) Accepts both Digital and analog Input.
3) Can accept a 1080i60 signal.

I believe it must also have HDCP on the digital input, but not sure if this requirement has always been there?

Outside Europe I don't think there is any official certification so can mean much less.

What article?



EDIT: I should say though, that the HD ready stickers are not actually "certified" as such and are often put on devices that do not meet the requirements.

SeeMoreDigital
4th August 2007, 21:08
Whatever HDTV you decide to buy, make sure it has at least one HDMI input (with HDCP) and supports multi-standard (PAL/NTSC) signals....

Personally speaking I would not consider buying any panel offering a native resolution below 1920x1080 pixels and without progressive scanning ;)


Cheers

castellanos
4th August 2007, 21:08
This (http://www.contentagenda.com/blog/1500000150/post/750012075.html) article.
Thank you for your answer mitsubishi.
I thought exactly that. HD Ready should be only in the sense of "Hi Definition" but nothing to do specifically with HD DVD or Blu-ray.
When I red the article I was confused... still not sure anyway. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Thanks SeeMoreDigital.
I'm not planning to buy a HDTV, not yet. Anyway it's nice to be sure what all that means... just in case.

mitsubishi
4th August 2007, 21:29
Oh I see, the article isn't saying a blu-ray isn't compatible with a HD TV, but highlighting the confusion.

Any TV which is genuinely "HD Ready" will work fine with either blu-ray or HD DVD at full input resolution using the HDCP digital input.

jeffy
4th August 2007, 22:00
This (http://www.contentagenda.com/blog/1500000150/post/750012075.html) article.
Thank you for your answer mitsubishi.
I thought exactly that. HD Ready should be only in the sense of "Hi Definition" but nothing to do specifically with HD DVD or Blu-ray.
When I red the article I was confused... still not sure anyway. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Thanks SeeMoreDigital.
I'm not planning to buy a HDTV, not yet. Anyway it's nice to be sure what all that means... just in case.

Quote from the article:
When asked whether she would buy a Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD player she noted that she’d have to buy HD DVD because it was an “HD TV set” not a “Blu-ray TV.”

She just got it wrong. She thought she needed an HD TV set for HD DVD and a different Blu-ray TV set for a Blue-ray Disc format. Sounds like a joke, but not that funny... read further in the article.

castellanos
4th August 2007, 23:40
Thanks guys, I got it.
My confusion was not only because the article, but a friend of mine just came days ago with the same question. My answer was exactly what mitsubishi said, but then I saw the article and... well you know the rest. :rolleyes:
Thanks a lot!

Doom9
5th August 2007, 11:32
There's a new certification coming: Full HD ready. That means the display has a resolution of 1920x1080 (so full 1080p), supports HDCP and can handle 24p input (from HD discs.. no more 3:2 pulldown).
HD ready just means the display can handle 720p content so those TVs generally have a resolution in the area of 1280x720 or a little more.

Inventive Software
6th August 2007, 14:06
I believe that, certainly in the UK, there is the 1080HD Ready logo for those that support 1080p at 1920x1080. Looks like the HD Ready logo, but has 1080 before the HD Ready part.

And I STILL can't work out why most HDTVs use 1366x768! The mind boggles.... :D

Jay Bee
6th August 2007, 19:46
And I STILL can't work out why most HDTVs use 1366x768! The mind boggles.... :D

I heard it's because of panel manufacturing. At that res they can make HDTV and Computer panels on the same machines or something like that. What's for sure is that it's crap.

SeeMoreDigital
6th August 2007, 19:56
I heard it's because of panel manufacturing. At that res they can make HDTV and Computer panels on the same machines or something like that. What's for sure is that it's crap.Yep.....

Especially when you consider, PC "wide-screen" LCD monitors have a panel aspect ratio of 16:10 (instead of 16:9) and PC "std-screen" LCD monitors have a panel aspect ratio of 5:4 (instead of 4:3).... it's crap!

Shinigami-Sama
7th August 2007, 07:30
Yep.....

Especially when you consider, PC "wide-screen" LCD monitors have a panel aspect ratio of 16:10 (instead of 16:9) and PC "std-screen" LCD monitors have a panel aspect ratio of 5:4 (instead of 4:3).... it's crap!

I heard some Drek about that for being able to see the media player or a hud if you're playing a game and have the rest of the res for what you're working for

MuttLover
7th August 2007, 12:08
There's a new certification coming: Full HD ready. That means the display has a resolution of 1920x1080 (so full 1080p), supports HDCP and can handle 24p input (from HD discs.. no more 3:2 pulldown).
HD ready just means the display can handle 720p content so those TVs generally have a resolution in the area of 1280x720 or a little more.

My HD set can accept a 24/p signal -- but its display is at 60hz -- so it still has to do some sort of pulldown to get a 24p signal to 60.

The HDTV would need a refresh rate of 72 or some multiple of 24 to really get rid of 2:3 pulldown. Is this part of the "Full HD Ready" spec?

Doom9
7th August 2007, 19:19
Is this part of the "Full HD Ready" spec?Unfortunately, no.

Morbo
7th August 2007, 22:05
I use a 61" Sony(i dont wanna hear it) SXRD,with a HTPC running Windvd(and it's trumotion).

HD looks grand,but SD dvd's look sweet with 1080p from a PC,sure it's scaled.....but there are no real HD titles yet that urge me
into the format war.