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Atak_Snajpera
23rd January 2010, 17:04
Try to remux your BD movie with TSmuxer without downconverting DTS audio. Import remuxed file again in ripbot264.

dirk362
23rd January 2010, 18:51
Feature Request
More options around audio profiles.
Audio profiles as text files, and users can create/edit/customise as they wish, similar to Encoder profiles for Video.
Or alternatively an option to specify XCOPY, CBR or VBR, and (if not XCOPY) then Audio Encoder from drop down, and then lastly bitrate another drop down of say 32, 48, 64, 128, 256, 384, 448, 640, 1536.
Clearly would need to take into account source audio type etc

For the main video work I put through RipBot264, I only need basic audio. At present I edit the job1_EncodeAudio.cmd to adjust down from say 65536 to 49152.
But it means I have to also go and adjust the x264 parameters with 2-pass to take this into account and increase video bitrate accordingly.

Of course, this is just my own need - no idea how many others would find this useful...
And I can work around this, so just asking on the chance this is easy-ish to accomplish (it's probably not at all, and I'm totally naive to think it can be easily done)

Atak_Snajpera
23rd January 2010, 19:08
For the main video work I put through RipBot264, I only need basic audio. At present I edit the job1_EncodeAudio.cmd to adjust down from say 65536 to 49152.
Wow! 64 kbps vs 48 kbps. You save only 2 KB/s !!! It does not make sense at all for me.

Rob2687
23rd January 2010, 20:25
When I run this an error shows saying "Failed to get data for 'isWhitelist'.

I've reinstalled matroska splitter, ffdshow and avisynth. The first time I saw this error was with the 1.15.0 version. Version 1.14.0 has worked fine before but it also shows the error when run 1.14.0 now.

After clicking Okay on the error the RipBot window opens. I can't add any videos because it get's stuck at the "Please Wait... Gathering information..." stage. It just sits there while the RipBot process uses no CPU.

Anybody have any idea what the deal is with this?

I've searched the forum and the thread. Someone posted a bunch of registry entries and there was one isWhitelist entry for ffdshow. I've checked my registry and the registry key is there.

I'd like to be able to use this program again.

consultant
23rd January 2010, 20:49
Look here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1366528#post1366528


Why do you need that? DTS icon + number of channels is not enough?

I didn't realize the arcs next to the DTS icon represented number of channels.

I've found that DVDFab rips my BDs much faster than MakeMKV for some reason. And RipBot264 can demux the LPCM from the m2ts file. Problem solved.

I've got an mkv that ripbot created but somehow it used the audio from another job. I don't want to have to reencode the video. Any suggestions on how I can just rip the DTS track off the BD so I can remux it with the video in the MKV?

Atak_Snajpera
23rd January 2010, 21:14
tsmuxer

chane2k1
24th January 2010, 02:00
Try to remux your BD movie with TSmuxer without downconverting DTS audio. Import remuxed file again in ripbot264.

its a bug with the arcsoft decoder and 6.1 dtshd. set eac3to to use the sonic decoder and it processed the stream correctly. sucks that arcsoft cant handle it right. oh well hopefully this helps others with the same problem.

Arbelisk
24th January 2010, 06:43
Trying to convert "Sleepy Hollow" Blu-Ray and it does not give me the option for FLAC conversion. All my other movies do. Anyone experienced this before? Thanks!

Atak_Snajpera
24th January 2010, 13:49
FLAC is only available for lossless audio! I checked your movie (http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php) and it has plain DTS audio not DTS-MA!

stasi
24th January 2010, 14:04
Thanks Atak for the new version : )

My missing features list :

-multiple audio tracks support
-subs support in dvd (vobs)
-a bit more audio options eventually

Thanks again

Sub support for DVD was very useful, I manually extract subs from DVDs with VSRIP. The old AutoMKV uses VSRIP, too (I used AutoMKV before I heard about RIPBOT)
@Atak: Is is possible to add this option?

mochevolete
24th January 2010, 14:17
Sub support for DVD was very useful, I manually extract subs from DVDs with VSRIP. The old AutoMKV uses VSRIP, too (I used AutoMKV before I heard about RIPBOT)
@Atak: Is is possible to add this option?
+1 on multiple audio tracks and DVD subs :)
Nik

Atak_Snajpera
24th January 2010, 16:11
can somebody send me m2ts file with DTS-MA 6.1?

ludeboy12
24th January 2010, 18:22
Not 6.1 but you can get a couple 7.1 DTS-HD MA m2ts trailers over here: http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php

Atak_Snajpera
24th January 2010, 18:38
I need 6.1

consultant
24th January 2010, 19:40
What controls the location of the ripbot264temp directory?

Atak_Snajpera
24th January 2010, 19:43
ripbot264.ini

johnny50
24th January 2010, 20:30
Atak, I get the error message in DGSplit "Insane start/end values!" when I try that.

Atak_Snajpera
24th January 2010, 20:33
How big is your m2ts file?

Arbelisk
24th January 2010, 20:56
FLAC is only available for lossless audio! I checked your movie (http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php) and it has plain DTS audio not DTS-MA!

Thanks Atak! Guess they didn't even bother to remaster the audio for Blu-Ray. :rolleyes:

Ajax_Undone
24th January 2010, 23:15
I guess u're talking about CoreAVC and AnyDVD right?

I was talking about the rented video comment, but yes if they are ripped off then them as well.:cool:

rcrh
25th January 2010, 02:15
Is there any way to get ripbot264 to encode a dvr-ms file? When I open the file it says "Please wait... Gathering information..." but it never finishes.

It would be great to avoid having to go through an extra step to remux this into another container.

Thanks in advance.

prettyboy85712
25th January 2010, 04:21
can somebody send me m2ts file with DTS-MA 6.1?

Here you go. It's clip of Terminator 2.

http://www.mediafire.com/?tvmfjidyvne

blackcell
25th January 2010, 04:29
can somebody send me m2ts file with DTS-MA 6.1?

mplayer site has all types
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/DTS/dts/

awake33
26th January 2010, 06:07
No sir, no artifacts show up. I watched it for a good while from the beginning.

And thank you for the time you take to help us here. :thanks:

Dump CoreAVC 1.9.x !

I don't have CoreAVC software installed on my PC. Nothing has changed on my PC other than changing from 1.14.6 to 1.15.0.
I've tried a newer ffdshow.exe file and re-installing codecs, but the problem remains. Any other suggestions?

Tolham
26th January 2010, 06:18
i'm trying to convert a blu-ray rip of Oldboy to mkv. it is a korean movie and i need subtitles. when i tell it to "build in picture" and start the conversion, it says conversion is complete after 1 second of initializing. if i reset the subtitle option, the conversion begins normally. the subtitle file i select is the one found in the job temp folder.

marax
26th January 2010, 10:31
Windows 7 x64,

i have installed klite codec pack x64 and ripbot asks for 32bit version ?! FFDSHOW NOT INSTALLED in red, even I have installed 3158

also for Halli media splitter

why ?

twazerty
26th January 2010, 10:42
Windows 7 x64,

i have installed klite codec pack x64 and ripbot asks for 32bit version ?! FFDSHOW NOT INSTALLED in red, even I have installed 3158

also for Halli media splitter

why ?

because ripbot asks for 32bit versions. Most GUI's still works on 32 bit decoders/encoders/splitters. Sometimes a 64 bit encoder but still a 32bit splitter and decoder.

prettyboy85712
26th January 2010, 13:40
Windows 7 x64,

i have installed klite codec pack x64 and ripbot asks for 32bit version ?! FFDSHOW NOT INSTALLED in red, even I have installed 3158

also for Halli media splitter

why ?

Never use codec packs. Uninstall and then download/install each app separately. You're asking for problems otherwise.

Atak_Snajpera
26th January 2010, 14:12
@Tolham
Send me 100 MB sample (.m2ts file) to www.mediafire.com. Use DGsplit. Show me log file from Logs folder

stumped
26th January 2010, 17:49
i'm having issues with ripbot and blu-ray files. It's only recently though that it's happening. It's not related to 32bit or 64bit differences (i just finished trying that, it first started on win7 x64 and now on win7 x32)

When i load either the elementary h264 stream, or one that's inside an mkv container, i get an avisynth error "DirectShow Source: Timeout waiting for graph to start.
M:\temp\Ripbot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2"

It's also not related to just one movie. It started doing this on "The Fifth Element" last friday (64bit) and when i did a fresh install of 32bit (like only gpu driver, ffdshow, firefox, haali, java, avisynth) it worked fine. Yesterday i finished setting up the pc and tried loading "Land of the Lost" (in both mkv, then .264) it gave me the avisynth error. I tried earlier version,s same issue. I tried reinstalling avisynth, same issue. I'm pulling my hair out right now trying to figure out what's going wrong. I have coreAVC 2.0 installed (wasn't an issue before) and i have ffdshow rev3222 clsid variant (i'm thinking that might be the issue, but when windows was fresh install, it worked?).

Can you please help me? I love ripbot 264, but if i can't get it to work, i'm not sure what i'll do!


EDIT: i read the first page, downgraded my Haali (although .264 files inside .mkv container shouldn't be an issue, also haali changed something, the FouCC so that it can work around windows 7 stuff) and now all works just fine!

Tolham
27th January 2010, 05:38
@Tolham
Send me 100 MB sample (.m2ts file) to www.mediafire.com. Use DGsplit. Show me log file from Logs folder

i discovered the problem. my java installation was corrupt which was preventing BDsup2sub from doing it's job.

8ternity
27th January 2010, 06:57
@awake33:

Personnaly i can suggest you to try theses things.

Uninstall all programs (avisynth, ffdshow, matroska). Reboot after this. Make a spot check if you don't have another directshow all-in-one application are installed in your system (like k-lite codecs pack, or any codec packages).

After download and/or install this:

- Latest DirectX Files ( http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/resultsForProduct.aspx?displaylang=en&productID=9C954C37-1ED1-4846-8A7D-85FC422D1388 )
- Install ffdshow CLSID rev. (try mine are working right now rev.3176) ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ffdshow_rev3176_20100102_clsid.exe/download )
- Install matroska haali (available on the 1rst page of this thread) submited by Atak.
- Install avisynth 2.5.8 stable rev. ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/avisynth2/files/AviSynth%202.5/AviSynth%202.5.8/Avisynth_258.exe/download )

Try with this and let us know if it is working.

I have experienced a trouble like you but with another program (HDConvertToX) wich i was using a ffdshow rev of CLSID, but i have re-installed ffdshow but rev of XXL. I never has or read something that said i was need to use ffdshow XXL with HDConvertToX. I was solved that trouble but for ripbot264, atak have recommand CLSID rev. (Not XXL or ICL-10).

Good Luck for your case!

joae
27th January 2010, 09:31
I'm re-encoding a DVD to PS3 format, and the program stops within a few seconds at "muxing." I already encoded the DVD once with Ripbot264, but the AR was wrong.

I first thought it was using the old temp files and failed because of that, but it stops even after deleting the temp folder for the job.

Any ideas?

edit: encoding any other file works fine

prettyboy85712
27th January 2010, 13:35
I'm re-encoding a DVD to PS3 format, and the program stops within a few seconds at "muxing." I already encoded the DVD once with Ripbot264, but the AR was wrong.

I first thought it was using the old temp files and failed because of that, but it stops even after deleting the temp folder for the job.

Any ideas?

edit: encoding any other file works fine:script:

joae
27th January 2010, 16:56
:script:

Not sure which file you mean, but here's two, hope they help :)

job7_EncodeVideoPass1:

"C:\Program Files\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job7\job7.avs" --crf 18 --fps 25 --min-keyint 25 --keyint 250 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"


and job7_MuxFiles

"C:\Program Files\RipBot264\tools\mp4box\mp4box.exe" -tmp "C:\temp\RipBot264temp" -add "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264":name="filename" -fps 25 -add "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.aac":lang=und -mpeg4 -chap "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job7\chapters.txt" -new "C:\[path]\filename.mp4"

eyekyu
27th January 2010, 19:12
is there a difference using this software on a 64bit system

consultant
27th January 2010, 23:01
To save time, while RipBot is encoding, I'm getting other jobs ready by ripping and demuxing them so when I add them ripbot doesn't have to demux.

I used eac3to to demux an m2ts file into a .h264 and .flac file (from PCM) and selected the .264 file. After a while ripbot came back with:

AVCSource: Could not open one of the input files.
(d:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2)

Atak_Snajpera
27th January 2010, 23:14
I can only suggest to use mkv instead of raw .h264 file

consultant
27th January 2010, 23:47
So it is not possible to submit a separate video and audio file for encoding and muxing by Ripbot264? There's a browse button on the audio filename in the second screen so I thought I would be able to submit a video file, then browse to my audio file? No possible?

Atak_Snajpera
27th January 2010, 23:50
as you can see no. DGAVCDec didn't like your file. Period.

tulip001
28th January 2010, 10:58
Hi,

i have a Intel Core-2-Duo-Prozessor T7200 and when i encode an Bluray with RipBot the ETA is about 60hrs with 0,94 fps !!

I use the "[High 4.0] Bluray, Console" Profile with no modifications from v.1.15

Encoding the same Bluray with HDConvertToX shows me an ETA of 15hr using the x264 normal preset with crf of 22.

I am using Vists Home Premium x86.

Why is x264 encoding in RipBot so slow?

Ciao
Tulip001

prettyboy85712
28th January 2010, 13:45
Hi,

i have a Intel Core-2-Duo-Prozessor T7200 and when i encode an Bluray with RipBot the ETA is about 60hrs with 0,94 fps !!

I use the "[High 4.0] Bluray, Console" Profile with no modifications from v.1.15

Encoding the same Bluray with HDConvertToX shows me an ETA of 15hr using the x264 normal preset with crf of 22.

I am using Vists Home Premium x86.

Why is x264 encoding in RipBot so slow?

Ciao
Tulip001

Post your script.

iSeries
29th January 2010, 12:27
Hi,

Recently switched to Windows 7. I've just installed the latest RipBot and I'm getting an error after the the source file has been demuxed. After demuxing, it says 'Please wait, gathering information' for about 5 minutes, then an error comes up saying 'DirectShowSource : Timeout waiting for graph to start.
(D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2)'. I've uninstalled/reinstalled ffdshow, avisynth and haali to no avail. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

prettyboy85712
29th January 2010, 13:45
Hi,

Recently switched to Windows 7. I've just installed the latest RipBot and I'm getting an error after the the source file has been demuxed. After demuxing, it says 'Please wait, gathering information' for about 5 minutes, then an error comes up saying 'DirectShowSource : Timeout waiting for graph to start.
(D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2)'. I've uninstalled/reinstalled ffdshow, avisynth and haali to no avail. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

What version of Haali to you have installed?

iSeries
29th January 2010, 14:20
@ prettyboy85712 - I have the latest one as downloaded from http://haali.su/mkv/. In the 'About' properties it says 1.9.355.21.

prettyboy85712
29th January 2010, 14:58
@ prettyboy85712 - I have the latest one as downloaded from http://haali.su/mkv/. In the 'About' properties it says 1.9.355.21.

Don't use that version. Use 19/12/2009.

dbone1026
29th January 2010, 15:31
Don't use that version. Use 19/12/2009.

Isnt the latest one on the haali site the 19/12/2009 version?

Atak_Snajpera
29th January 2010, 15:36
have you read first post?

iSeries
29th January 2010, 17:31
Yes I've read the first post. All it says in the first post is the latest Haali will not work with VC1 .m2ts files. However the source file is already remuxed into MKV, and the video codec is AVC not VC1. So therefore I assumed this advice was not applicable here.

pacaveli211
29th January 2010, 19:45
I have the latest Haali, vc1 files inside m2ts will just not play. like if I try to play an m2ts with MPC (that's setup to use haali instead of the default codec) it will play just the audio and not the video.
I can still process vc1/m2ts fine through ripbot264. it just demuxes the vc1 into an mkv anyways (I assume that's what it's always done as ripbot doesn't recognize raw vc1)
so the only thing the new haali will prevent you from doing is playin vc1 inside m2ts

dr01dy
30th January 2010, 16:38
I searched around the forums for this setting but was unable to find it.

I am looking to do a test encode with ripbot246 but I can't find the setting. All of my encodes are not cropping out the black screens even when I set it for each encode.

Jeff

tormento
30th January 2010, 17:50
Could somebody tell me why the CheckRequiredSoftware=0 parameter does not work anymore?

I am progressively abandon haali splitter since it gives me more problems than ever. How should I fake it is installed?

stumped
30th January 2010, 18:09
Yes I've read the first post. All it says in the first post is the latest Haali will not work with VC1 .m2ts files. However the source file is already remuxed into MKV, and the video codec is AVC not VC1. So therefore I assumed this advice was not applicable here.

i had the same issue you're having. turns out, you have to downgrade to the haali that is posted on the first page of this thread (i know, go figure?).

tormento
30th January 2010, 18:41
I tried every haali I found. Don't think I need it anymore. I use MPC HC to play video, DGToolsNV to demux BD & DVD audio+video, eac3to to demux chapters and subs. What should I use Haali Splitter to?

Need a way to fake it for RipBot ;)

joae
31st January 2010, 16:27
How do I force a temp directory? I have two temp folders, one on C and another on F (don't know how that happened). Now I can't recover my job queue.

8ternity
31st January 2010, 19:16
Hi atak,

After changing one hard drive and put into my server computer, ripbot264 has freezing to "Gathering Informations". I make some look up in the C:\Temp\ to check what's wrong.

- .264 file is not in temp folder, all subtitles and audio tracks are in job1. only 2 avs file (job1.avs and getinfo.avs). If i cancell the gathering information, the C:\Temp has been deleted.

I went to Windows Vista SP2 to make some test, and samething.

Could you help me with this case?

It's start from when i takeout 1 hard discs and modify ripbot.ini to change drive letter and output drive.

pacaveli211
31st January 2010, 22:22
suggestion for a couple features (if possible)
a Pause! (maybe at least after pass1 if it can't be done during encoding?)
an option to drop the framerate for the audio

8ternity
31st January 2010, 23:15
How do I force a temp directory? I have two temp folders, one on C and another on F (don't know how that happened). Now I can't recover my job queue.

in Ripbot264 folder, go in Ripbot264.ini with notpad.exe;
Temporary system and Output Path. The first one has for jobs working files, and the other for done project.

hoju3508
1st February 2010, 07:56
How do I force a temp directory? I have two temp folders, one on C and another on F (don't know how that happened). Now I can't recover my job queue.

In your RipBot264.ini file, change AUTO to desired drive.

[settings]
// TEMP=uses System temp ; AUTO = selects the biggest partition ; C , D ... uses specific partition
StoreTempFilesin=C

slayers
1st February 2010, 17:12
Any Chance of a Future update to ALLOW Interlaced Encoding? So far I have noticed just a Bunch of De interlacing options, but nothing for just to encode it to interlaced. Top and Bottom Field.

juGGaKNot
1st February 2010, 23:13
I get a "line 2 from getinfo.avs wont talk to me" when i open mp4 files, what can cause this ?

TeflonFong
2nd February 2010, 04:25
how come I am getting AVCHD and not Blu-Ray disc where it says save as? On all the screenshots I see online in the tutorials/guide there is an option for blu-ray disc...I want to shrink BD50s on a BD25 but I cannot find the option! :confused:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4300272191_fdd8a90c5b_o.jpg

xaero
2nd February 2010, 05:33
I get a "line 2 from getinfo.avs wont talk to me" when i open mp4 files, what can cause this ?

same here.. i reinstalled ripbot, avisynth, ffdshow and turned off my firewall and still get this error:
DirectShowSource: RenderFile, the filter graph manager won't talk to me
(C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2)

any suggestions?

pacaveli211
2nd February 2010, 07:26
how come I am getting AVCHD and not Blu-Ray disc where it says save as? On all the screenshots I see online in the tutorials/guide there is an option for blu-ray disc...I want to shrink BD50s on a BD25 but I cannot find the option! :confused:
not sure what guides you saw with this, I've never seen the button (maybe it was there on early versions?). possibly you've see the bluray button on TSMuxer though. just reencode your files to MKV and then mux to bluray structure with TSMuxer. keep in mind the file will be larger after muxing. for example: I reencode files to 7620MB to fit as AVCHD on dvd9 (a dvd9 is about 8150MB).
alternately you could encode to avchd and then just remux the m2ts into bluray structure.....or maybe just even leave it, your player might play AVCHD on bd25 (mine won't play bluray on dvd9)

I've been unable to determine the significant difference between AVCHD and Bluray structure (a couple index files are different sizes)

tulip001
2nd February 2010, 10:24
same here.. i reinstalled ripbot, avisynth, ffdshow and turned off my firewall and still get this error:


any suggestions?

What Hali version do you use?
Is the source a VC-1 encoded video? Then use the Hali Splitter version shown in the 1st post.

juGGaKNot
2nd February 2010, 15:48
I get a "line 2 from getinfo.avs wont talk to me" when i open mp4 files, what can cause this ?

Haali "logo" keeps going in and out in the right lower corner ( taskbar ? ), i have the haali from the first page.

xaero
2nd February 2010, 16:38
hey thanks! mine seems to be working fine now..

i launched media splitter settings | under compatibility i set autoload vsfilter to yes.

juGGaKNot
2nd February 2010, 17:27
Reinstalled haali and avisynth, updated to ffdshow 3251, java was not reinstalled, works now :

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/gud.png

Wish me luck on a sempron.

BTW : open multiple files would help.

xaero
2nd February 2010, 18:17
Does not work for me, h.264 files, works for wmv and xvid.

~edit
thanks for the info

laoping
2nd February 2010, 20:28
Two Questions... and sorry if they have ever been covered before, but we are on page 340 here :) About subtitles.

1. Does Ripbot264 OCR subtitles before you burn them in? Or do you build in the image of subtitles from the bluray?

2. Would SupTitle work better for subtitles http://www.zachsaw.co.cc/?pg=suptitle_pgs_avisynth_plugin? It looks like it uses the SUP file directly to burn in subtitles.

Atak_Snajpera
2nd February 2010, 20:34
1. Blu-ray subtitles are converted to idx/sub format (VSfilter does not support sup format)

2. I don't like this

SupTitle has the following restrictions (by downloading, you agree to the following terms and conditions):

* Not to be redistributed
* Other standard software EULAs such as this.

prettyboy85712
2nd February 2010, 22:31
how come I am getting AVCHD and not Blu-Ray disc where it says save as? On all the screenshots I see online in the tutorials/guide there is an option for blu-ray disc...I want to shrink BD50s on a BD25 but I cannot find the option! :confused:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4300272191_fdd8a90c5b_o.jpg

LINK (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1312042#post1312042)

TeflonFong
3rd February 2010, 03:53
ahhhh...ok Thanks- kept searching the thread but was inundated with results.

juGGaKNot
3rd February 2010, 10:26
Reinstalled haali and avisynth, updated to ffdshow 3251, java was not reinstalled, works now :

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/gud.png

Wish me luck on a sempron.

BTW : open multiple files would help.

K, encoded 50 movies, worked fine, restart, does not work on any files.

Reinstalled haali, works.

So every tine i restart i have to reinstall haali ( the one in the first post )

laoping
3rd February 2010, 16:53
1. Blu-ray subtitles are converted to idx/sub format (VSfilter does not support sup format)

2. I don't like this

Thanks man for the info. I guess I must have been blind when I was looking at that site. Would you be interested in it if he changed the license, or if someone else wrote a similar plug in, or are you pretty much happy with VSfilter for subtitles?

-Thanks

laoping
5th February 2010, 04:30
1. Blu-ray subtitles are converted to idx/sub format (VSfilter does not support sup format)

2. I don't like this

Alright I looked into and I posted a question to the author in his forum. According to his response, he does not mind if you use his plugin. Also it does not use OCR but overlays the subtitles bitmap right over the video. I think this would produce very good looking subtitles.

Here is a link to his response. http://www.zachsaw.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=71&sid=502c4e763b10b90f51c852e8742a393d

Do you think you might be interested in using this for burned subtitles in the next release?

QUEENFAN
5th February 2010, 10:20
Hello,

why does the encoding option Lock Size (MB) disapear after indexing a videostream ?

I'd like to encode to AVCHD giving a max size (DVD5 or DVD9) for the encode.

Thanks for your help.

Wishbringer
5th February 2010, 12:50
@QUEENFAN:

Maybe you have to select 2-pass mode first (default is CQ).

QUEENFAN
5th February 2010, 13:03
Thanks alot fpr your hint Wishbringer.

You saved my day ;-))

Atak_Snajpera
5th February 2010, 22:48
Do you think you might be interested in using this for burned subtitles in the next release?
There is major problem with this plugin. It does not resample subtitles!
SupTitle plugin
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5267/snapshot20100205214736.png

VSFilter plugin
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2873/snapshot20100205214914.png

chane2k1
6th February 2010, 04:51
@Atak_Snajpera

i posted this a while back

its a bug with the arcsoft decoder and 6.1 dtshd. set eac3to to use the sonic decoder and it processed the stream correctly. sucks that arcsoft cant handle it right. oh well hopefully this helps others with the same problem.

i just started encoding Stargate and this movie has DTS-HD HI-RES 6.1, it's not a MA track but it does the same thing as the 6.1 DTS-HD MA from X-Men Last Stand. audio has slowed down and has static present. I just decoded the track using the Sonic Decoder and it works fine. My question is, would you be able to add a check box to use the sonic decoder for 6.1 DTS-HD streams. I just dont trust the arcsoft decoder for 6.1 anymore and it would be nice not to have to do a separate step and remux later.

thanks for all your hard work on this program, it's made encoding my collection a breeze other than this little hiccup every once in a while.

juepi
6th February 2010, 08:45
Hi Folks,

First of all, @Atak_Snajpera: thanks for this great piece of software, keep on the good work!

Then, a question :)

When ripping BD-ROMs, i'm missing the option to "stream copy" the selected audio stream (EDIT: DTS-MA seems to automatically decode to multichannel PCM while demuxing, i guess the problem starts here). I first realised this in v. 1.15.0, but i also used the 1.14.7 and it also can't simply copy the audio stream from the original source to the MKV target any longer :(
Am i missing something? I can resample the DTS-MA audio stream from the BD to AC3, but this is actually not what i want. I know this has worked in the past with RipBot, why has this option been removed?

I also got a feature request (i guess not a very rare one): are there plans to implement muxing multiple audio streams to the output file? would be very nice feature.

Thanks in advance for your help,

greetings from snowy austria,

Juergen

Balwyn
6th February 2010, 10:05
The often used haali link on the first post has recently disappeared. Was this intentional ?

stasi
6th February 2010, 13:15
When ripping BD-ROMs, i'm missing the option to "stream copy" the selected audio stream (EDIT: DTS-MA seems to automatically decode to multichannel PCM while demuxing, i guess the problem starts here). I first realised this in v. 1.15.0, but i also used the 1.14.7 and it also can't simply copy the audio stream from the original source to the MKV target any longer :(
Am i missing something? I can resample the DTS-MA audio stream from the BD to AC3, but this is actually not what i want. I know this has worked in the past with RipBot, why has this option been removed?

Um xx.copy stream verfügbar zu haben musst du im vorherigen Fenster die FLAC Option setzen. Ripbot wird dann die FLAC Datei in die MKV muxen. Wenn die FLAC Option nicht gesetzt ist, decodiert Ripbot die Tonspur zu PCM, damit später daraus eine AC3, OGG oder AAC erstellt werden kann. Verstanden? Also: FLAC aktiviert heißt, den Ton verlustfrei in MKV zu muxen, FLAC deaktiviert heißt, den Ton weiter zu verarbeiten als AC3, OGG oder AAC.

Atak_Snajpera
6th February 2010, 13:38
I just decoded the track using the Sonic Decoder and it works fine.
Where can i get sonic decoder?

i just started encoding Stargate and this movie has DTS-HD HI-RES 6.1
can you send me a sample for testing? As always m2ts 50mb to www.mediafire.com. Use DGSplit.

bigggt
6th February 2010, 13:46
Hi Folks,

First of all, @Atak_Snajpera: thanks for this great piece of software, keep on the good work!

Then, a question :)

When ripping BD-ROMs, i'm missing the option to "stream copy" the selected audio stream (EDIT: DTS-MA seems to automatically decode to multichannel PCM while demuxing, i guess the problem starts here). I first realised this in v. 1.15.0, but i also used the 1.14.7 and it also can't simply copy the audio stream from the original source to the MKV target any longer :(
Am i missing something? I can resample the DTS-MA audio stream from the BD to AC3, but this is actually not what i want. I know this has worked in the past with RipBot, why has this option been removed?

I also got a feature request (i guess not a very rare one): are there plans to implement muxing multiple audio streams to the output file? would be very nice feature.

Thanks in advance for your help,

greetings from snowy austria,

Juergen

I also have this problem in the last few ripbot releases

its no big deal if i want DTS i just use eac3to and demux it and then load that into ribpot

i don't know why it won't give dts core anymore

juepi
6th February 2010, 15:00
Um xx.copy stream verfügbar zu haben musst du im vorherigen Fenster die FLAC Option setzen. Ripbot wird dann die FLAC Datei in die MKV muxen. Wenn die FLAC Option nicht gesetzt ist, decodiert Ripbot die Tonspur zu PCM, damit später daraus eine AC3, OGG oder AAC erstellt werden kann. Verstanden? Also: FLAC aktiviert heißt, den Ton verlustfrei in MKV zu muxen, FLAC deaktiviert heißt, den Ton weiter zu verarbeiten als AC3, OGG oder AAC.

Hmm, according to Stasi :thanks: the "xx.copy stream" is available, when selecting the FLAC checkbox during A/V selection. i'll give it a try, but if that's true, i don't understand why the checkbox is named "FLAC" instead of "demux only" or something like that :)
Will try it out and post if it worked for me.

EDIT: Ok, FLAC checkbox just decodes DTS to multichannel FLAC instead of just copying the audio stream out of the M2TS, so the checkbox is named correctly, however it does not solve my problem ;).
The intention behind my question is, that i'm playing the transcoded videos on my popcorn hour C200, which is connected to a 5.1 receiver. The receiver should get the DTS signal for decoding, since it cannot handle multichannel flac, AAC, OGG etc. (of course "downgrading" to AC3 works, but i'd like to keep the advantages of DTS sound).

yours,
Juergen

Atak_Snajpera
6th February 2010, 15:31
How many times I have to repeat that DTS-MA/TrueHD -> FLAC/wav -> AC3 640kbps = DTS CORE 1,5 MBps in terms of quality!!!
Why would you waste space for stupid DTS???

juepi
6th February 2010, 16:23
Hi,

Sorry if you have to discuss this again, i have to admit that i didn't read all the 342 pages of this threat before posting my question ;)

However, concerning the bitrate of both codecs you might be right that one cannot hear much difference, however afaik DTS uses 24bits per sample, whereas A52 only uses 16bps, which results in better dynamic sound for DTS. Not sure if this is correct, as i could't find much (professional) info on this.

True or not, i guess you might have the point that the "listening difference" is not worth the much higher DTS bitrate. Might be a better idea to use the audio bitrate difference to encode the video in better quality ;)

yours,
Juergen

Atak_Snajpera
6th February 2010, 16:50
noise in 16 bit is STILL below human hearing range!!! No need to use placebo 24 bit! Also compression algorithm are alot better in AC3 than in DTS!

pacaveli211
7th February 2010, 08:25
DTS > AC3
end of discussion

Remicade
7th February 2010, 08:34
Don't see the difference on my Logitech X530, for me both is the same. I preffer AC3 for space reason (4480 Mb MKV/DVD).

Atak_Snajpera
7th February 2010, 12:05
DTS > AC3
end of discussion
bla bla bla ... You better find professional tests and then write anything. Ac3@640 kbps is transparent. DTS reaches transparency @ 1,5 Mbps.

pacaveli211
7th February 2010, 18:53
where are your professional tests to prove ac3 640 is transparent?
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=65936
this guy did a bunch of tests on dts vs ac3. some of his thoughts:
DTS 5.1 1538Kbps is a good source for transcoding & I consider it always far superior to AC3 640Kbps ... there is no competition here.
For me, the claim that AC3 5.1 640Kbps is as transparent as DTS 5.1 1538Kbps is a commercial lie. NO doubt here.
For me AC3 640Kbps clearly doesn't compete with DTS 1536Kbps, the dolby competitor against DTS 1536Kbps must be E-AC3, which I didn't tested.

oh and:
People at doom9 just don't care as much for audio quality as we do here on HA. lol

Atak_Snajpera
7th February 2010, 19:20
where are your professional tests to prove ac3 640 is transparent?
http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/tech/tech3324.pdf

BTW Did you know that very often even flac files can be smaller that DTS 1,5Mbps? :)

pacaveli211
7th February 2010, 19:43
I don't see AC3640 in there anywhere =\
it looks like they used 448 for all their tests

prettyboy85712
7th February 2010, 20:15
where are your professional tests to prove ac3 640 is transparent?
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=65936
this guy did a bunch of tests on dts vs ac3. some of his thoughts:

Don't take this the wrong way pacaveli211, but I don't see how one persons opinions/test prove anything? Both DTS and Dolby tout being more transparent/better than the other. This proves nothing nothing. Perhaps under certain conditions, but there is never a true winner.

stryker412
7th February 2010, 20:34
I just had to format my HDD. What versions of Haali, Avisynth, and FFDshow appear to not have issues. I heard one of the latest versions of Haali had lipsync issues.

Shuichiro
7th February 2010, 21:04
Hi. First let me thank you for such a great tool and all the time and work you have spent for it!

I have already encoded a lot of my movies to 720p for my media device but now there are two movies with a DTS 6.1 track. The finished mkv always end in an unusable audio (checked on PC).
Is this something already known or can be fixed? I am using the latest Ripbot version. Maybe someone is able to help me. Thank you in advance.

WndrBr3d
7th February 2010, 21:06
I've been having an issue lately when trying to convert h.264 formatted files (in a demuxed .264 file) using RipBot. I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit and other than CoreAVC (which comes with Haali), it's a clean install.

The issue is that some files convert fine, while others tend to error out after the 1st pass. It's seemingly random because if I try enough times with the same job, it'll work.

Below is a log file from a failed attempt. Any help would be appreciated! :)




C:\>"C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\bepipe\bepipe.exe" --script "import(^C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs^)" | "C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\Tools\aften\aften.exe" -readtoeof 1 -b 448 - "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.ac3"

***************************************

BePipe by dimzon

***************************************

Script used:

# BEGIN

import("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs")

# END





Scanning for Audio Stream...

Found Audio Stream

Channels=6, BitsPerSample=16, SampleRate=48000Hz

Writing Header...

Writing Data...

0%

Aften: A/52 audio encoder

Version git

(c) 2006-2009 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.



input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz 5.1-channel

output format: 48000 Hz 3/2 + LFE



SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3

Threads: 4




progre
pr
progre
Done!

bitrate: 448.0 kbps




C:\>"C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\avs2yuv\pipebuf.exe" "C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\avs2yuv\avs2yuv.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" -raw - : "C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264_x64.exe" --pass 1 --bitrate 9899 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --frames 158406 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" - 1920x1080 : 2

x264 [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1

x264 [warning]: VBV bitrate (25000) > level limit (20000)

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64

x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.0
C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs: 1916x812, 48000/2002 fps, 158406 frames

x264 [info]: frame I:5194 Avg QP:29.36 size: 66757

x264 [info]: frame P:113655 Avg QP:32.11 size: 53106

x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 100.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%

x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 79.2% 0.0% 20.8%

x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 94.9% 0.0% 0.0% P16..4: 5.1% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip: 0.0%

x264 [info]: final ratefactor: 27.71

x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 21.8% 71.3% 59.2% inter: 45.7% 99.6% 65.4%

x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 31% 41% 14% 14%

x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 4% 43% 20% 1% 1% 0% 1% 0% 30%

x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.1%

x264 [info]: kb/s:10300.55



encoded 118849 frames, 16.80 fps, 10300.55 kb/s


C:\>"C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\avs2yuv\pipebuf.exe" "C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\avs2yuv\avs2yuv.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" -raw - : "C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264_x64.exe" --pass 2 --bitrate 9899 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --frames 158406 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" - 1920x1080 : 2

x264 [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64

x264 [error]: 2nd pass has more frames than 1st pass (158406 vs 118849)

x264 [error]: x264_encoder_open failed

C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs: 1916x812, 48000/2002 fps, 158406 frames

Output error: wrote only 2300683 of 2333688 bytes


C:\>"C:\Users\User1\Desktop\RipBot264\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\Temp\Output.mkv" --title "Output" --default-duration 0:24000/1001fps -d 0 -A -S "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --language 0:eng -a 0 -D -S "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.ac3"

mkvmerge v3.0.0 ('Hang up your Hang-Ups') built on Dec 12 2009 15:20:35


Error: The file 'C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' has unknown type. Please have a look at the supported file types ('mkvmerge --list-types') and contact the author Moritz Bunkus <moritz@bunkus.org> if your file type is supported but not recognized properly.

-------------------------

Elapsed Time: 02h:01m:59s

chane2k1
7th February 2010, 21:42
Where can i get sonic decoder?


can you send me a sample for testing? As always m2ts 50mb to www.mediafire.com Use DGSplit.

The decoder was discontinued after the death of hd dvd, this is the last known version http://www.mediafire.com/?l2evmyznqej

Here are the clips you asked for

Stargate DTS-HD HI-RES 6.1 http://www.mediafire.com/?ljimizfzoyw
X-Men The Last Stand DTS-HD MA 6.1 http://www.mediafire.com/?tmj2tyykujj

pacaveli211
8th February 2010, 01:59
Don't take this the wrong way pacaveli211, but I don't see how one persons opinions/test prove anything? Both DTS and Dolby tout being more transparent/better than the other. This proves nothing nothing. Perhaps under certain conditions, but there is never a true winner.

eh, it was about the only thing I could find other than people raging based solely upon their opinions

jacksback
8th February 2010, 07:43
Hi

Can anyone please tell me how to re-encode 1080i videos with RipBot?

I'm trying to re-encode my Fiance's Celine Dion BluRay but it keeps failing after demuxing has finished. I even tried using an external program to split the Audio and Video but I get the following error when loading the Video mkv in RipBot

"Can't open "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\getinfo.avs"

Here is the gentinfo.avs log

DirectShowSource("F:\Celine\1_2_video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Framecount")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Framerate")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","AudioRate")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","AudioChannels")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","AudioLength")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Width")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Height ")
Trim(0,-1)

Any Ideas?

Thanks

pacaveli211
8th February 2010, 08:02
did you try demuxing and then adding the separate streams? I know you said you 'split the audio and video', I'm unsure if that means you actually demuxed it or not though
did you try aborting/removing the job and make sure the job6 folder disappears/is deleted? (every once in a while one of my job folders gets stuck and I'll have to close ripbot and delete the folder)
other than that I have no ideas, sorry

jacksback
8th February 2010, 09:23
did you try demuxing and then adding the separate streams? I know you said you 'split the audio and video', I'm unsure if that means you actually demuxed it or not though
did you try aborting/removing the job and make sure the job6 folder disappears/is deleted? (every once in a while one of my job folders gets stuck and I'll have to close ripbot and delete the folder)
other than that I have no ideas, sorry

Thanks for the reply. In answer to your question, I used HD-DVD/Blu-Ray extractor to demux the Video and Audio first. I then loaded the demuxed Video.mkv track into Ripbot which immediately displayed the avs error.

Just tried your suggestion and removed job 6 from my queue. I restarted and tried again but get the same error. This happens on all my 1080i concert Blu-rays for some reason. The other one is Justin Timberlake, also at 1080i.

Weird?

nburgess
8th February 2010, 12:35
I've searched this thread but can't find a definitive answer to this question.

I've ripped a blu-ray movie using MakeMKV, and this gives a 23Gb 1080p MKV file. I want to convert it to a 720p MKV so in Ripbot I set the mode to CQ 22, re-size it to 1280x720, and encode. The resulting MKV is 4Gb in size but the bitrate is only 2500kbps. The image quality still looks great but does this bitrate seem a bit low, espeically as the movie has a lot of fast action scenes?

If I'm using CQ 22, should I go into the HIGH 4.0 Profile settings and increase the max bitrate from default 25000 to something much higher like 50000, would this force CQ22 encodes to give a higher bitrate?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

jacksback
8th February 2010, 13:41
I've searched this thread but can't find a definitive answer to this question.

I've ripped a blu-ray movie using MakeMKV, and this gives a 23Gb 1080p MKV file. I want to convert it to a 720p MKV so in Ripbot I set the mode to CQ 22, re-size it to 1280x720, and encode. The resulting MKV is 4Gb in size but the bitrate is only 2500kbps. The image quality still looks great but does this bitrate seem a bit low, espeically as the movie has a lot of fast action scenes?

If I'm using CQ 22, should I go into the HIGH 4.0 Profile settings and increase the max bitrate from default 25000 to something much higher like 50000, would this force CQ22 encodes to give a higher bitrate?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I personally try and get around the 5.5 - 6.5gb mark when converting an action movie to 720p. I use CQ 18 first and move up to 20 if the size gets too big. I sometimes use 16 to get the desired output size because some movies compress better than others.

If Hard Disk space is an issue for you then try and get your output to between 4 and 5gb. The movies should still look very good

nburgess
8th February 2010, 14:08
Even when I try CQ20, although the filesize is bigger and the bitrate increases, the bitrate itself is still quite low.

I'm working on the basis of a previous post by Atak that stated that a 720p MKV at 6Mbps will generally look very good. When I encode to 720p even using CQ 20, the bitrate is still around the 2.5Mbps level.

Does anyone know of a way of forcing Ripbot to encode at a higher bitrate using Constant Quality mode, should I increase the High 4.0 Profile's Max Bitrate setting from its default 25000, or should I not touch this?

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2010, 15:17
he image quality still looks great but does this bitrate seem a bit low, espeically as the movie has a lot of fast action scenes?
Oh my god! You should be very HAPPY that you get small file with very good quality! You should thank x264 developers! ALWAYS judge quality not bitrate/size! x264 encoder is not stupid. If scene contains more movement so it will get more bits. BTW. Don't touch anything.

nburgess
8th February 2010, 15:41
Oh my god! You should be very HAPPY that you get small file with very good quality! You should thank x264 developers! ALWAYS judge quality not bitrate/size! x264 encoder is not stupid. If scene contains more movement so it will get more bits. BTW. Don't touch anything.

Ha ha, believe me Atak, I'm very thankful for all your fantastic work on Ripbot, superb encoder!

So you don't think I should try 2-Pass mode then set the kbps to something higher like 6144? Is it best to just stick with Constant Quality?

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2010, 15:44
So you don't think I should try 2-Pass mode then set the kbps to something higher like 6144? Is it best to just stick with Constant Quality?
If you like waste time and space use 2-pass. Your choice.

People behind x264 encoder do a excellent work. BTW. I'm just a gui maker.

nburgess
8th February 2010, 15:48
OK, I'll stick with CQ from now on. Thanks for the advice Atak, much appreciated.

xaero
8th February 2010, 16:36
Hi

Can anyone please tell me how to re-encode 1080i videos with RipBot?

I'm trying to re-encode my Fiance's Celine Dion BluRay but it keeps failing after demuxing has finished. I even tried using an external program to split the Audio and Video but I get the following error when loading the Video mkv in RipBot

"Can't open "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\getinfo.avs"

Here is the gentinfo.avs log

DirectShowSource("F:\Celine\1_2_video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Framecount")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Framerate")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","AudioRate")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","AudioChannels")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","AudioLength")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Width")
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job6\info.txt","Height ")
Trim(0,-1)

Any Ideas?

Thanks

reinstall ffdshow, haali, avisynth.
config ffdshow video decoder as such:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/new1sr2.png/
http://img501.imageshack.us/i/new1qq1.png/

pacaveli211
8th February 2010, 17:15
Thanks for the reply. In answer to your question, I used HD-DVD/Blu-Ray extractor to demux the Video and Audio first. I then loaded the demuxed Video.mkv track into Ripbot which immediately displayed the avs error.

Just tried your suggestion and removed job 6 from my queue. I restarted and tried again but get the same error. This happens on all my 1080i concert Blu-rays for some reason. The other one is Justin Timberlake, also at 1080i.

Weird?

if your video is truly demuxed it's not going to be in an mkv container. your software has just remuxed it into an mkv file. if it's vc-1 it'll have to stay in mkv for ripbot. if it's h.264 ripbot can accept the raw stream though (which would be a .264 file, not an mkv).


nburgess:
the latest version of x264 made some changes / updates so when processing something at CQ20 or such you'll end up with lower bitrate files than you would've with the previous version

jacksback
8th February 2010, 21:10
reinstall ffdshow, haali, avisynth.
config ffdshow video decoder as such:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/new1sr2.png/
http://img501.imageshack.us/i/new1qq1.png/

Thanks, will give that a try

ErsatZ
9th February 2010, 00:42
alright, first of all thanks for this excellent program.
Basically I have two questions that would make things even better to me :p

1. How to change to location of the 'Temp' folder?
I guess it can be done in 'RipBot264.ini', but I'm scared to use it and don't really how to.

2. Is it possible for RipBot264 to automatically set the audio profile bitrate to the source bitrate?
By default I have 128kb/s, so currently I have to check manually each the bitrate of the source file because I wouldn't want to transcode an audio stream into a higher bitrate, which is non-sens (.ie 96kbs (original) > 128kbs (output). So I cannot use queueing option because I do this verification all the time, but if it adapts it would be perferct.

Atak_Snajpera
9th February 2010, 01:01
1. How to change to location of the 'Temp' folder?
I guess it can be done in 'RipBot264.ini', but I'm scared to use it and don't really how to.
Find a guide called "How to use notepad"

ErsatZ
9th February 2010, 12:45
Ok.
And for question 2. ?

consultant
9th February 2010, 16:35
I tried encoding a couple movies with TrueHD audio using the FLAC option and even though Ripbot seems to do the conversion there's no audio. I tried using EAC3To to Demux my MKV and convert the audio and then just play the FLAC file using VLC Media Player but it won't play the FLAC file. So I'm guessing EAC3To can't turn TrueHD into FLAC?

Sephiroth0000
9th February 2010, 17:18
If you like waste time and space use 2-pass. Your choice.

People behind x264 encoder do a excellent work. BTW. I'm just a gui maker.

So are you saying ONE pass constant quality is better then 2 pass? I was always under the impression a 2 pass was the best way to get quality.... will one pass constant give me the same results? If so then why have a 2 pass option?... what are the advantages of doing a 2 pass VBR rather then a 1 pass CBR

pacaveli211
9th February 2010, 18:03
Sephiroth0000 - you missed the important points. neither 2pass nor CQ are necessarily better. 2pass is essential for hitting a target size, CQ is for hitting a target quality which results in an unpredictable size
he was making the point that you could use 2pass to hit a higher bitrate but would be wasting space (as the higher bitrate wasn't necessary per the CQ processing) and wasting time (as 2pass will take longer than CQ)

consultant: Eac3To should be able to transcode to flac just fine, possibly you have a codec / player / etc issue

nurbs
9th February 2010, 18:14
@Sephiroth0000:
Both have some benefits and drawbacks. Dark Shikari listed them here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1362942&postcount=16). Basically you need to use --slow-firstpass to get all the benefits and even then you don't completely eliminate the drawbacks.

laoping
9th February 2010, 18:20
There is major problem with this plugin. It does not resample subtitles!
SupTitle plugin
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5267/snapshot20100205214736.png

VSFilter plugin
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2873/snapshot20100205214914.png



I see your point. How I have used it in the past is I overlaid the subtitles before using Ripbot to re size the video. So could you overlay the subtitle first, like a 1st pass. Then recode the entire video like normal? Sorry, I keep bringing this up, but it makes subtitles look very nice.

ErsatZ
9th February 2010, 22:14
With 'StoreTempFilesin=', you can only select a partition (c, d..) but not a specific folder right?

tulip001
10th February 2010, 03:00
Hi,

is the audio bitrate i can select per channel, or the sum of all channels?

eg. 2.0 @ 128kb = 2x 64kbit?
or 5.1 @ 320 = 5x 64kbit? (why 5x? 5.1 has 6 channels!)
or 5.1 @ 192 = 6x 32kbit?

gohamstergo
10th February 2010, 04:23
With 'StoreTempFilesin=', you can only select a partition (c, d..) but not a specific folder right?

correct

nurbs
10th February 2010, 08:15
is the audio bitrate i can select per channel, or the sum of all channels?

It is the sum.

rmd3003
10th February 2010, 18:13
I have a quick question about Ripbot temp storage. When Ripbot starts "Demuxing... please wait" it writes somewhere and it looks like it ignores wht's in ripbot.ini and writes to C drive which is SSD in my case and i don't want to use it.

Is there any way to force to use another drive?

Beloww is my INI file:

[settings]
// TEMP=uses System temp ; AUTO = selects the biggest partition ; C , D ... uses specific partition
StoreTempFilesin=E
KeepJobsQueue=1
---------------------
DefaultProfile=[HIGH 4.0] HD . BluRay . Consoles
DefaultEncodingMode=CQ
DefaultModeValue=22
---------------------
//Directory must exists!!! D:\movies\ is correct but D:\movies is incorrect!
DefaultOutputPath=G:\movies\
---------------------
// allowed values are mp4, mkv or bluray
DefaultContainer=mkv
---------------------
// in GiB (1GiB=1024 MiB) , 0 = no splitting
SplitM2TS=0
---------------------
FastFirstPassin2passMode=1
---------------------
//AnyDVD DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray decryptor will be automatically activated with RipBot264
ExecuteAnyDVD=0
---------------------
x264LowPriority=0
---------------------
// it will use 64bit version of x264 on 64bit Windows. up to 10% faster encoding speed.
Usex264x64=1

juramirez
10th February 2010, 20:43
It would be nice to have an option to remove jobs / temporary files as the jobs are finished. The "Keep Jobs Queue" option, when unchecked, currently removes all the jobs in the queue, whether they're finished or not, upon program exit.

gohamstergo
10th February 2010, 21:23
It would be nice to have an option to remove jobs / temporary files as the jobs are finished. The "Keep Jobs Queue" option, when unchecked, currently removes all the jobs in the queue, whether they're finished or not, upon program exit.

sounds like a good ini option to have since not everyone would want a forced change. +1

just remember: if you automatically delete the temp files and your conversion comes out with any glitches, you wont be able to simply start another conversion with 1 click, youd have to start from scratch. happened to me once, so now i always check my mkvs before deleting the temp files.

gohamstergo
12th February 2010, 03:44
Atak: Bug Report:

When adding an mkv into ripbot, it demuxes the audio from the file but after demux there is no audio in the list. In the temp folder, there is a file called "2_Audio_English" but it has no extention (for ex: .ac3). When I try to manually add that file into ripbot, Haali reports and error.

The audio contained in the mkv is 7.1 FLAC.

TRONDROM
12th February 2010, 17:44
Does anybody have high-quality profiles for 720 and 1080 for BD5 and BD9 output? I don't care if if takes 16 hours to encode with a quad-core. I'm just looking for some custom profiles that will result in pristine video quality. Thanks.

Adub
12th February 2010, 18:25
Why not make them yourself? Creating custom profiles in RipBot really isn't that hard, and you can pick and choose your settings with ease.

Simply through all of your available settings on max if you wanted everything to get stupid slow.

stryker412
13th February 2010, 11:01
I have an odd issue. I installed a new HDD with a clean format and install of the OS.

I am having issues with converting a BD. It usually took about 6-7 hrs for a rip (resizing to 720p), now it's taking 16+. Any idea why this might be?

jacksback
13th February 2010, 15:29
reinstall ffdshow, haali, avisynth.
config ffdshow video decoder as such:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/new1sr2.png/
http://img501.imageshack.us/i/new1qq1.png/

PROBLEM SOLVED!!! :)

Downloaded "Windows Media Encoder 9" and set VC-1 to be decoded with wmv9 in ffdshow

Thanks for the instructions.

Shadow5606
13th February 2010, 17:32
Hey there guys, this is most likely NOT a Ripbot problem but I'm stumped....

I've been running a HTPC with Vista Business, Ripbot264, DVDShrink, XBMC & Fastcopy for about 6 months. No problems. virtually no other apps.

This machine has 3 hard drives, 1 300GB drive for the OS which is the boot drive and 2 dedicated media drives, 1TB & 1.5TB respectively.

Lately I've noticed movies go missing and I've narrowed it down to the 2nd media drive, the 1.5TB drive. I uesd an application called Recuva to find parts of some of these missing movies that appear to have been deleted and some already partially overwritten... Many of the missing files were not found by Recuva at all so some must be long gone. This is widespread, I've found about 40 missing movies but I have no idea why or by what program they're being overwritten!

I'm wondering if you've run into anything like this? Is is possible for Ripbot to be overwriting files that have not already been deleted or marked for deletion?

Does it sound like a bad hard drive or poorly formatted hard drive? Any clues?

FYI, the only way I could possibly think to blame Ripbot would be based on where it stores it's temp file which for me is in my C (boot drive) and should effect these dedicated media drives...

I'm throwing this out here in hopes that someone has seen something similar...

weaver4
13th February 2010, 22:36
I'm sorry if this has been answered before, but I did look.

Right now I use Ripbot264 for all of my videos unless I need subtitles, then I use Handbrake.

For standard (not blueray) dvds what is the best tool to use to rip subtitles from the VOBs to then add to Ripbot264.

8ternity
15th February 2010, 06:33
Hey there guys, this is most likely NOT a Ripbot problem but I'm stumped....

I've been running a HTPC with Vista Business, Ripbot264, DVDShrink, XBMC & Fastcopy for about 6 months. No problems. virtually no other apps.

This machine has 3 hard drives, 1 300GB drive for the OS which is the boot drive and 2 dedicated media drives, 1TB & 1.5TB respectively.

Lately I've noticed movies go missing and I've narrowed it down to the 2nd media drive, the 1.5TB drive. I uesd an application called Recuva to find parts of some of these missing movies that appear to have been deleted and some already partially overwritten... Many of the missing files were not found by Recuva at all so some must be long gone. This is widespread, I've found about 40 missing movies but I have no idea why or by what program they're being overwritten!

I'm wondering if you've run into anything like this? Is is possible for Ripbot to be overwriting files that have not already been deleted or marked for deletion?

Does it sound like a bad hard drive or poorly formatted hard drive? Any clues?

FYI, the only way I could possibly think to blame Ripbot would be based on where it stores it's temp file which for me is in my C (boot drive) and should effect these dedicated media drives...

I'm throwing this out here in hopes that someone has seen something similar...

Personnally last month, i was starting to have similar problem. It was a hard disc that i use for only converted movies with ripbot. I'm having many movies informations missing (videos filesize ok, but during conversion again, or burning, it has crashed all the time). I have over 10 movies that i can't burn 100% or convert my original file source (on this drive) from my bluray. It's when i convert again a backup and ripbot has completed the conversion, try to burn again that the burn crashed. I spent over some medias, hours and days before founding this problem.

I dont know if it's a similar trouble that you have but i have download a Western Digital Diagnostics software and make just some fast test, and my hard drive has starting to crashed, can't erase (erase folders with contents, but after rebooting, folder still there) etc. Stranges issue, but i was transfert all my other data (movie collectorz collection) to another drive for backup and 1 week later, drive dead.

Try to download a diagnostic tool from the drive manufacturer. Try this....

Finnally, last week i received my exchanged drive from Western Digital. It's my 5th drive dead in the last 3 years. 3 raptor on 3 (not recertified), two sata1 and one sata2 last month.... so it goes to 6 right now. I purchass an seagate 1.0 TB to exchange my 500B, but i readd my 500GB exchanged for an Recertied. Verry desapointed that WD exchange for a recertified!

Good luck!
Give me some news in pm... :thanks: and sorry for my english, i do my best... i know i make some bad sentense etc.

cwerdna
16th February 2010, 11:47
I've been using kmttg (http://code.google.com/p/kmttg/) to transfer TV shows from my TiVoHD to my PC and then decrypt the .tivo file into an .mpeg.

I'm trying to archive these shows and my target is to get 1 or 2 hours of 720p or 1080i video to fit w/reasonable quality on a single layer DVD +/- R.

Someone at my work (who I don't know personally ) has led me down the path of Ripbot264 since he uses it to make AVCHDs that he can play on his BD player.

I'm using the [HIGH 4.0] profile, 2-pass encoding and locking size to 2230 MB or 4460 MB (doesn't make a difference) and leaving everything else alone. I want the audio stream copied too (sometimes is AC3 5.1). My saga and latest results are at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7775887#post7775887.

I'm guessing I should stick w/TFF 29.97 fps for de-interlacing but I'm having some judder problems. The picture quality is otherwise ok.

Question: What settings should I change from the defaults to try to reduce the judder? Might I have to step outside what the Ripbot264 GUI provides and add/alter my own command-line switches?

(I'm happy that the audio is in sync, even 45 minutes into a show, unlike the results I got from Handbrake to .mkv, then .mkv to .m2ts via tsMuxeR.)

Atak_Snajpera
16th February 2010, 18:18
Use Inverse Telecine (deinterlace section)

cwerdna
16th February 2010, 19:36
Use Inverse Telecine (deinterlace section)
I can try that but I seriously doubt the content I'm transcoding (below) was originally put on film.
http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/smithsonian/show_white_house_reveal.do recorded from Smithsonian Channel HD
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/In_a_Mirror,_Darkly_%28episode%29 recorded from HDNet

cybersharky
17th February 2010, 13:17
How can I denoise using only hqdn3d? I've tried a few times but it gives an Avisynth error:
Script error: Invalid arguments to function "hqdn3d"

Remicade
17th February 2010, 17:15
How can i choose between multiple profiles like in MeGUI, if exist of course...i want a high quality profile not balanced.

Atak_Snajpera
17th February 2010, 19:23
Use mouse and left button. BTW Who says that default profile is not high quality?

illestdomer2005
17th February 2010, 20:19
Personally, I don't deviate from Atak's default high profile for BD. The quality is outstanding, and I trust that the guy who developed this knows a little bit more about the ins and outs of the settings than I do ;)

As to my question, though, RipBot is such a key component of my computer experience that I am ready to make the jump into the new X58 or P55 chipsets. I currently have a C2Q 6700 on a 780i mobo, and it just isn't cutting it for me. 7 hours to encode a 1080p movie is just too long for me. Cutting it down to something like 4-5 hours would be outstanding. SO, I am looking to spec out a new i7 build but am still a bit torn between the 9xx series and 8xx series. I am leaning towards the i7 920 just because a 1366 board is considered the high end and will support the Gulftown CPUs...when the price goes down.

I am just curious if anyone is running an i7 rig right now and has any recommendations...? I have gone from a mid-level gamer to an almost exclusive video encoder and need more power! :)

illestdomer2005
17th February 2010, 20:34
I have a quick question about Ripbot temp storage. When Ripbot starts "Demuxing... please wait" it writes somewhere and it looks like it ignores wht's in ripbot.ini and writes to C drive which is SSD in my case and i don't want to use it.

Is there any way to force to use another drive?

Beloww is my INI file:

[settings]
// TEMP=uses System temp ; AUTO = selects the biggest partition ; C , D ... uses specific partition
StoreTempFilesin=E
KeepJobsQueue=1
---------------------
DefaultProfile=[HIGH 4.0] HD . BluRay . Consoles
DefaultEncodingMode=CQ
DefaultModeValue=22
---------------------
//Directory must exists!!! D:\movies\ is correct but D:\movies is incorrect!
DefaultOutputPath=G:\movies\
---------------------
// allowed values are mp4, mkv or bluray
DefaultContainer=mkv
---------------------
// in GiB (1GiB=1024 MiB) , 0 = no splitting
SplitM2TS=0
---------------------
FastFirstPassin2passMode=1
---------------------
//AnyDVD DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray decryptor will be automatically activated with RipBot264
ExecuteAnyDVD=0
---------------------
x264LowPriority=0
---------------------
// it will use 64bit version of x264 on 64bit Windows. up to 10% faster encoding speed.
Usex264x64=1

I assume "E" is the drive letter where you want RipBot to store the temp files; so, I don't know why it would be storing them on your SSD if it's your C drive. Assuming your SSD is smaller than your other drives, I wonder if selecting "Auto" might fix the problem...or changing the drive letter for that drive?

bubbers214
18th February 2010, 00:37
Personally, I don't deviate from Atak's default high profile for BD. The quality is outstanding, and I trust that the guy who developed this knows a little bit more about the ins and outs of the settings than I do ;)

As to my question, though, RipBot is such a key component of my computer experience that I am ready to make the jump into the new X58 or P55 chipsets. I currently have a C2Q 6700 on a 780i mobo, and it just isn't cutting it for me. 7 hours to encode a 1080p movie is just too long for me. Cutting it down to something like 4-5 hours would be outstanding. SO, I am looking to spec out a new i7 build but am still a bit torn between the 9xx series and 8xx series. I am leaning towards the i7 920 just because a 1366 board is considered the high end and will support the Gulftown CPUs...when the price goes down.

I am just curious if anyone is running an i7 rig right now and has any recommendations...? I have gone from a mid-level gamer to an almost exclusive video encoder and need more power! :)

I was in your same boat recently, I had been using a C2Q 6600 and eventually decided I wanted to encode all my movies instead of keeping the raw streams, just for storage considerations. Raw streams were just taking up too much space. So I did a considerable amount of research and decided to go with an i7 860. That chip will easily overclock to 3.6+ and I currently have mine at 3.9 will relatively little effort.

Anyway, my encode times dropped from around 7-8 hours on my C2Q to about 3.5 using High Profile settings and a CF of 18. I definitely recommend the 860 chip, great bang for your buck. I would venture to guess that the X58 series won't bring you much more in terms of encoding, until at least the new chips come out, most people say the purpose of going X58 is for SLI and gaming. So I decided to save myself some money, and I've been considerably happy with my decision.

RandomEngy
18th February 2010, 07:24
Am I just missing something? I've got RipBot264 v1.15.0 but I can't seem to find this preview dialog everyone's talking about. Running on Win7 x64.

cwerdna
18th February 2010, 11:44
Use Inverse Telecine (deinterlace section)
Amazingly, you were right, at least for one show so far! I can't believe it!

I can try that but I seriously doubt the content I'm transcoding (below) was originally put on film.
http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/smithsonian/show_white_house_reveal.do recorded from Smithsonian Channel HD
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/In_a_Mirror,_Darkly_%28episode%29 recorded from HDNet
I have no judder problems now that I switched to Inverse Telecine w/the Enterprise ep. I'm going try the other show tonight.

Is it common for US 1080i broadcasts to use film (~24 fps) frame rates over cable or in my case, Verizon FiOS?

Atak_Snajpera
18th February 2010, 12:48
Is it common for US 1080i broadcasts to use film (~24 fps) frame rates over cable or in my case, Verizon FiOS?
Movies are always recorded at 24 fps. In order to put 24fps into 30fps (60i) they use mix of 3 progressive frames + 2 interlaced (Telecine). This a common method. Nothing special.

Balthazar2k4
18th February 2010, 15:12
I am just curious if anyone is running an i7 rig right now and has any recommendations...? I have gone from a mid-level gamer to an almost exclusive video encoder and need more power! :)

That is the same thing that happened to me. I somehow went from PC gaming to video encoding addict. Last year I picked up a Core i7 920 D0 Stepping and an Asus P6Tv2 Deluxe along with 6GB DDR3 1600 memory. I overclocked the i7 to 4ghz with HT on and I can encode a movie in single pass CQ18 @ 720p in about an hour and a half. I haven't tried 1080p so I can't say, but the upgrade was well worth it. I have successfully OC'ed the processor to 4.3, but it just runs too hot for my taste and I have to keep the fan running full tilt. Plus, as you mentioned, LGA1366 will allow for migration to the Gulftown CPU. Anyways, the 920 is definitely an OC'ing dream and you should buy it while you can.

laserfan
18th February 2010, 15:47
I have no judder problems now that I switched to Inverse Telecine... Is it common for US 1080i broadcasts to use film (~24 fps) frame ratesMany TV programs are either shot-on-film or otherwise 24p HD, so IVTC is appropriate.

Occasionally the 3-2-3-2 etc cadence is munged at the local affiliate but for the most part simple IVTC works IME.

plouie10
18th February 2010, 16:27
Atak_Snajpera
First of all let me say thanks for your work on ripbot264. I was absolutely stunned at the quality you can get from a blu-ray down to 4gb on main movie. I always use avchd format, lock to 4gb and have never been disappointed. I have a quick question about subtitles. When I first choose the m2ts file and it does it's analysing, it shows the english subtitle, but after I click okay and do all my settings, when I go to click selectable subtitles, it shows nothing in the box. I then have to click the plus "+" button and navigate to the temp folder, job1 and choose it there. Is there some default I can set up or is this the way it works. I'm good either way. Again, fantastic program, thanks for your efforts.
Phil

Atak_Snajpera
18th February 2010, 16:39
...is this the way it works.
Exactly.

juramirez
18th February 2010, 22:25
I was just wondering whether my encode times were normal... It's taking from 10 to 15 hours (usually around 12) to encode a BluRay movie with idx/sub subtitles. I'm using default settings. My setup is a Core 2 Duo P8600 @ 2.40GHz, 4GB of RAM, Win 7 64bit, and an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670. Do those sound like normal transcoding times, or am I doing something wrong and taking too long because of it?

Atak_Snajpera
18th February 2010, 22:48
you have only 2 cores with slow clock so your times are correct

juramirez
18th February 2010, 22:49
you have only 2 cores with slow clock so your times are correct

Okie... thanks, I can stop worrying now. =)

jamd1
19th February 2010, 05:45
Atak - my hard disc crashed and I lost all the old versions of ripbot. I really liked 1.13 (I prefer the simple audio conversion - core dts or 640kbps core from True HD , instead of the wav/flac method - maybe a choice in the ini file could be offered ) Please could you give a link to 1.13 - Thx for your help.

MuLTiTaSK
19th February 2010, 06:25
Atak - my hard disc crashed and I lost all the old versions of ripbot. I really liked 1.13 (I prefer the simple audio conversion - core dts or 640kbps core from True HD , instead of the wav/flac method - maybe a choice in the ini file could be offered ) Please could you give a link to 1.13 - Thx for your help.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/RipBot264/old-versions#download

illestdomer2005
19th February 2010, 15:32
I was in your same boat recently, I had been using a C2Q 6600 and eventually decided I wanted to encode all my movies instead of keeping the raw streams, just for storage considerations. Raw streams were just taking up too much space. So I did a considerable amount of research and decided to go with an i7 860. That chip will easily overclock to 3.6+ and I currently have mine at 3.9 will relatively little effort.

Anyway, my encode times dropped from around 7-8 hours on my C2Q to about 3.5 using High Profile settings and a CF of 18. I definitely recommend the 860 chip, great bang for your buck. I would venture to guess that the X58 series won't bring you much more in terms of encoding, until at least the new chips come out, most people say the purpose of going X58 is for SLI and gaming. So I decided to save myself some money, and I've been considerably happy with my decision.

Awesome, bubbers! That's exactly what I was looking to hear. I had heard that the i7 chips were approximately 30% faster than C2Q chips at the same speed; so, all sorts of efficiency dreams started popping up :)

The 860 vs 920 thing has driven me nuts! I think you are absolutely right about the difference between the X58 and P55 (et al.) chipsets. I currently have two 8800GT cards in SLI, but I'll never do it again. It's too expensive for the performance return, and I mostly game on my PS3/360/Wii now. Very rarely do I play a game on the comp these days.

I had spec'ed out a Biostar Tpower 55i with the 860 for my brother who is interested in BD conversion as well. For x264, I know it's all about the processor speed, but I wondered if the difference between dual and triple channel RAM on the P55 and X58, respectively, made any appreciable impact...at least as far as video encoding is concerned?

illestdomer2005
19th February 2010, 15:39
That is the same thing that happened to me. I somehow went from PC gaming to video encoding addict. Last year I picked up a Core i7 920 D0 Stepping and an Asus P6Tv2 Deluxe along with 6GB DDR3 1600 memory. I overclocked the i7 to 4ghz with HT on and I can encode a movie in single pass CQ18 @ 720p in about an hour and a half. I haven't tried 1080p so I can't say, but the upgrade was well worth it. I have successfully OC'ed the processor to 4.3, but it just runs too hot for my taste and I have to keep the fan running full tilt. Plus, as you mentioned, LGA1366 will allow for migration to the Gulftown CPU. Anyways, the 920 is definitely an OC'ing dream and you should buy it while you can.

That is blazing fast! I almost exclusively run 2-pass encodes because I just create AVCHD ISOs for burning to disc and playing on my PS3 or family/friends BD players. I just re-OC'ed my Q6700 from 2.66GHz to 3.33GHz and encode a ~2 hour 720p movie in 4.25 hours. In my experience, the difference between encoding at 720p and 1080p -- at least in 2-pass -- is that 1080p takes about 50% longer.

I had been struggling with whether to spend the $1,000 or so on a new i7 rig or a NAS, but the new rig is getting more and more tempting :) Besides, I think this C2Q has enough power to be a nice little server in its own right ;)

Balthazar2k4
19th February 2010, 17:25
That is blazing fast! I almost exclusively run 2-pass encodes because I just create AVCHD ISOs for burning to disc and playing on my PS3 or family/friends BD players. I just re-OC'ed my Q6700 from 2.66GHz to 3.33GHz and encode a ~2 hour 720p movie in 4.25 hours. In my experience, the difference between encoding at 720p and 1080p -- at least in 2-pass -- is that 1080p takes about 50% longer.

I had been struggling with whether to spend the $1,000 or so on a new i7 rig or a NAS, but the new rig is getting more and more tempting :) Besides, I think this C2Q has enough power to be a nice little server in its own right ;)

I used to use 2-pass, but decided hard drives were cheap and if I am taking the time to backup my collection then I might as well not sacrifice too much. On a 2 hour movie, 2-pass was generally 20-30 minutes slower than CQ. In most instances I can backup a movie in realtime or faster. For instance, I am backing up my Planet Earth discs now and each episode is around 50 minutes and it is taking 50 minutes to back them up. That is at a bitrate of 10,000kbps+ and decoding VC1 (which is generally slower).

In my case I have turned my main computer into my server. It stays on pretty much all the time (since I am almost always encoding) and so I just keep stacking drives in it. I am looking at some NAS boxes now, but I just can't justify the expense... yet.

maldino800
19th February 2010, 18:40
Thank you for a great program
I have some mkv files not compliant with 1920x824 and 1280x526,,,If I use RipBot to make my mkv files compliant with 1920x1080 and 1280x720 AVCHD to play with PS3,,the size and quality will keep the same original or will be reduce ??

illestdomer2005
19th February 2010, 20:54
I used to use 2-pass, but decided hard drives were cheap and if I am taking the time to backup my collection then I might as well not sacrifice too much. On a 2 hour movie, 2-pass was generally 20-30 minutes slower than CQ. In most instances I can backup a movie in realtime or faster. For instance, I am backing up my Planet Earth discs now and each episode is around 50 minutes and it is taking 50 minutes to back them up. That is at a bitrate of 10,000kbps+ and decoding VC1 (which is generally slower).

In my case I have turned my main computer into my server. It stays on pretty much all the time (since I am almost always encoding) and so I just keep stacking drives in it. I am looking at some NAS boxes now, but I just can't justify the expense... yet.

I've noticed -- right or wrong -- that the higher the bitrate, the faster the encode. I guess it makes sense, at least to me, because that means less compression. If you're trying to cut your budget by 25%, that's going to be easier than trying to cut it by 50%. Most of my encodes are to DVD-5; so, I am usually in the 5000 - 6000 bitrate range. If I drop much below 5000, I will consider DVD-9. I absolutely understand your position based on the cost of hard drives and quality...I just want to have optical discs of them in addition to the actual BD :)

Regarding the NAS, I've really looked hard a Synology and NetGear. Both have some great products, but you're paying A LOT for some hardware that really isn't that impressive. You can build a cheap AMD machine that kills the power of those little boxes, but of course it's all about the software. Synology software looks fantastic, and it's about the only thing giving me pause from just building my own and running FreeNas...or possibly being a masochist and going with Windows Home Server lol

illestdomer2005
19th February 2010, 21:00
Thank you for a great program
I have some mkv files not compliant with 1920x824 and 1280x526,,,If I use RipBot to make my mkv files compliant with 1920x1080 and 1280x720 AVCHD to play with PS3,,the size and quality will keep the same original or will be reduce ??

1) A re-encode will never look as good as the original.

2) You can use one of the tools in RipBot called "TSMuxer" to generate an .m2ts file that will play on the PS3. You just need to make sure the audio codec is compatible. Your MKV file will be bigger when generating an AVCHD, but if you reconvert using RipBot, you can specify the file size in 2-pass mode.

Balthazar2k4
19th February 2010, 21:38
I've noticed -- right or wrong -- that the higher the bitrate, the faster the encode. I guess it makes sense, at least to me, because that means less compression. If you're trying to cut your budget by 25%, that's going to be easier than trying to cut it by 50%. Most of my encodes are to DVD-5; so, I am usually in the 5000 - 6000 bitrate range. If I drop much below 5000, I will consider DVD-9. I absolutely understand your position based on the cost of hard drives and quality...I just want to have optical discs of them in addition to the actual BD :)

Regarding the NAS, I've really looked hard a Synology and NetGear. Both have some great products, but you're paying A LOT for some hardware that really isn't that impressive. You can build a cheap AMD machine that kills the power of those little boxes, but of course it's all about the software. Synology software looks fantastic, and it's about the only thing giving me pause from just building my own and running FreeNas...or possibly being a masochist and going with Windows Home Server lol

Actually I have found the opposite in regards to encode times based on higher bitrates (at least when using CQ mode). At 10000+ I get 25fps on avg. At 5000+ I get 32+fps on avg. Also, VC-1 titles are slower to re-encode. With H264 encoded titles, the re-encode rate can jump by as much as 20%.

As for the NAS, that is where I am heading. I have a spare computer that I am tempted to drop FreeNAS on and start piling on the hard drives.

pacaveli211
19th February 2010, 22:08
I'm going to have to say you're both wrong. the encoding time is going to depend on these main factors:
resolution - 720's will process significantly faster than 1080's
aspect ratio - any low aspect ratios take longer, like 1.85 or 1.78 (there are more pixels to analyze)
movie length - of course the longer the movie the more frames and time to process

Balthazar2k4
19th February 2010, 22:39
I'm going to have to say you're both wrong. the encoding time is going to depend on these main factors:
resolution - 720's will process significantly faster than 1080's
aspect ratio - any low aspect ratios take longer, like 1.85 or 1.78 (there are more pixels to analyze)
movie length - of course the longer the movie the more frames and time to process

Thanks pacaveli211 for the comment. I can attest to the fact that all of the issues you pointed out DO make a time difference. However, if I encode the same move at CQ18 and then CQ22, the CQ22 will get done much faster.

pacaveli211
19th February 2010, 22:44
hmmm, I never use CQ. In that scenario, how much of a time difference does it usually make?

dbone1026
19th February 2010, 22:45
hmmm, I never use CQ. In that scenario, how much of a time difference does it usually make?

When I was using 2-Pass, Size locked to 8GB it would take about 10-14 hours with my quad core. When I moved to CQ=18 the times went down to 4-6 hours.

Balthazar2k4
19th February 2010, 23:23
hmmm, I never use CQ. In that scenario, how much of a time difference does it usually make?

Well, without sitting down and doing one I could only guess. I would say that the difference in speed is 10-15%.

Atak_Snajpera
20th February 2010, 00:37
I'm going to have to say you're both wrong. the encoding time is going to depend on these main factors:
resolution - 720's will process significantly faster than 1080's
aspect ratio - any low aspect ratios take longer, like 1.85 or 1.78 (there are more pixels to analyze)
movie length - of course the longer the movie the more frames and time to process

You forgot about movie complexity. If scene contains more motion encoding process will also take more time.

illestdomer2005
20th February 2010, 01:00
I'm going to have to say you're both wrong. the encoding time is going to depend on these main factors:
resolution - 720's will process significantly faster than 1080's
aspect ratio - any low aspect ratios take longer, like 1.85 or 1.78 (there are more pixels to analyze)
movie length - of course the longer the movie the more frames and time to process

That's all well and good except...

In my experience, the difference between encoding at 720p and 1080p -- at least in 2-pass -- is that 1080p takes about 50% longer.

So, I guess I'm not wrong ;)

But the length of the movie and, as Atak pointed out, the complexity of the video are also major factors.

illestdomer2005
20th February 2010, 01:02
Thanks pacaveli211 for the comment. I can attest to the fact that all of the issues you pointed out DO make a time difference. However, if I encode the same move at CQ18 and then CQ22, the CQ22 will get done much faster.

Isn't CQ22 higher quality than CQ18? If so, isn't that another way of saying what I said about the higher bitrate?

Because I never use CQ, I really don't have enough experience with it to say, but I have converted hundreds of BDs in 2-pass mode.

Balthazar2k4
20th February 2010, 02:07
Isn't CQ22 higher quality than CQ18? If so, isn't that another way of saying what I said about the higher bitrate?

Because I never use CQ, I really don't have enough experience with it to say, but I have converted hundreds of BDs in 2-pass mode.

No, the lower the CQ value, the higher the bitrate.

Balthazar2k4
20th February 2010, 02:10
You forgot about movie complexity. If scene contains more motion encoding process will also take more time.

That is why CQ18 takes longer than CQ22. It isn't the bitrate directly that causes the longer encode time. By telling the encoder to capture more of the scene fidelity the encoder therefore needs more bits to capture it faithfully. It is the analysis of the movie that requires more time.

angel40204
20th February 2010, 02:17
v 1.15 crahes when i try to start the encoding process.
using windows 7. also , afterwards , i got the bsplayer latest version 2.51 to crash as soon as i used ripbot. i think there must be a conflict with ffdshow for this application and bsplayer . i have to remove ffdshow and reinstall bsplayer to make it to work again . anyhow , ripbot won't encode under windows7
something to do with ffdshow not sure why . used later version and 3171 version .
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: x264_x86.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4b2a6505
Fault Module Name: avisynth.DLL
Fault Module Version: 2.5.7.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 45971d82
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000168f0
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

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i have not been able to use this application properly since i switched to windows 7.

Ga1j1n
20th February 2010, 07:16
In my case I have turned my main computer into my server. It stays on pretty much all the time (since I am almost always encoding) and so I just keep stacking drives in it. I am looking at some NAS boxes now, but I just can't justify the expense... yet.

Servers don't need to cost a lot, let me suggest you pick up a cheap Atom Netbook or Nettop and install Amahi Home server on it.

http://www.amahi.org/
I have been using it for approx 2 Years and it is the best server software bar none, it's free, very simple to setup and use and extremely versatile, it even supports DLNA.

I store my video on external USB hardrives which means I can keep adding storage forever practically and easily transfer them should I decide to upgrade it

Much better than most off the shelf solutions, I couldn't live without it.

Atak_Snajpera
20th February 2010, 08:09
@angel40204
Fault Module Name: avisynth.DLLL
......

angel40204
20th February 2010, 11:16
i removed avisynth version 2.5.7 and reinstalled it . still the same thing . which version should i use . thanks
ripbot crahes not when i get the setting detected . but when i start the encoding process .

illestdomer2005
20th February 2010, 19:25
Servers don't need to cost a lot, let me suggest you pick up a cheap Atom Netbook or Nettop and install Amahi Home server on it.

http://www.amahi.org/
I have been using it for approx 2 Years and it is the best server software bar none, it's free, very simple to setup and use and extremely versatile, it even supports DLNA.

I store my video on external USB hardrives which means I can keep adding storage forever practically and easily transfer them should I decide to upgrade it

Much better than most off the shelf solutions, I couldn't live without it.

That's some interesting software...I'm curious about what the Web GUI looks like and how easily I could download my files remotely. I wouldn't really use the VPN because I just want a box I can leave on 24/7 with RAID 5 or 6 that houses all of my media. I guess it just depends on your needs.

illestdomer2005
20th February 2010, 19:26
No, the lower the CQ value, the higher the bitrate.

We need to get an official ruling from Dark Shikari ;)

illestdomer2005
20th February 2010, 20:40
i removed avisynth version 2.5.7 and reinstalled it . still the same thing . which version should i use . thanks
ripbot crahes not when i get the setting detected . but when i start the encoding process .

Can you elaborate? What exactly happens when it "crashes?"

angel40204
21st February 2010, 00:20
Application Name: x264_x86.exe.
i posted the log above few replies if you look back . avisynth is the application in the log crashing . but i removed and reinstalled without any result. this is really frustrating . i am using bsplayer 2.51 with its own codecs . but i noticed fddshows changes when i use ripbot and bsplayer crashes afterwards.
this should be simple. installation . was working under xp . but another beast under windows 7 .32bits
this is really frustrating as i can't understand why when following simple guidelines of install . i get this crap .
and i an not a pc geek on ffdshows and other codecs use .

A.VOID
21st February 2010, 22:07
After 50/50 failed attempts with HDCOnvertX >>> Converting an VC-1 .mkv into an .mpg .mkv ... failed at 99.9% with incorrect framecounts, I gave the newest RipBot a crack at it. I haven't used RipBot for about 6 mos ...

Worked flawlessly on my VC-1 .mkv BR rip. Converted it to .mp4 in about 9 hours. Trying a couple other failed attempts now. Very happy right now.

angel40204
22nd February 2010, 01:04
all i can read in this forum , for most is only applied to discuss about tech stuff to show how better one is to the other .
i am not an encoding genius , but i knnow how to follow the guideline . this should be simple. on windows 7. 86x , i should after install in a folder , be able to encode simply.
for most of us , we do not know much about tech stuff and are completely helpless when weird stuff happens .
i was using this program with windows xp with no problem. i use version 1.15. and all i get is a crash of the application each time at the start encoding .
i was trying to encode a mkv to another smaller mkv. worlks great with xp . but here all i get at this point is the application crashing. and i show the log in my first post here . all i get is avisynth.
why and what the heck that means .tried reinstalling . no change .
this is pure crap and it should not be so complicate as to use this thing . unless it is for certain video geeks and limited use .

Atak_Snajpera
22nd February 2010, 01:12
@angel40204
I have perfect solution for you. DON'T USE IT! You have so many alternatives...

xantius
22nd February 2010, 10:33
When I try to convert videos, the 1st one converts fine, but the rest that follow will be scrambled/corrupt and the size is not what I selected (480x360). but larger, and it seems as if the video has multiple copies of the video in it, and there are green lines and shades through it. I have done a clean install of Windows 7, and tried installing just RipBot264 with the files/codecs that it needs, but the problem persists.

If I restart my computer, and try to convert videos again, the 1st one will convert fine, after which the rest will be weird like that again.

I am running Windows 7 Pro x64, Version 6.1 Build 7600 (winver.exe), which I got from school through msdn academic alliance. It is running on an i7 920 4.0GHz, 6GB RAM, and an ATI HD 4890 1GB with the latest drivers (catalyst 10.2).

After reading through the posts, I have to say that I am a very novice user, but any help/suggestions would be appreciated. If there are any other info that I can provide which may help home in on the solution, just let me know.

Thanks.

This video was supposed to be resized to 480x360
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9502/crptvid.jpg

jeremy33
22nd February 2010, 15:08
Hi Atak_Snajpera

if I update x264 64bit to rev. 1442 Ripbot crash. why ?

Thanks.

laserfan
22nd February 2010, 15:32
this is pure crap and it should not be so complicate as to use this thing . unless it is for certain video geeks and limited use .But angel40204 if this were easy to do then everybody would be doing it! ;)

soneca
22nd February 2010, 16:19
if I update x264 64bit to rev. 1442 Ripbot crash. why ?

I'm using this rev.x86(Komisar) and it works perfectly.

stasi
22nd February 2010, 16:31
Hi Atak,
I found a little warning in my job.txt:

D:\>"C:\Program Files (x86)\RipBot264\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "D:\Video.mkv" --title Video" --default-duration 0:25fps -d 0 -A -S "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --language 0:ger -a 0 -D -S "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.aac" --chapters "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"

mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') built on Feb 12 2010 16:46:17


'D:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264': Using the AVC/h.264 ES demultiplexer.


'D:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.aac': Using the AAC demultiplexer.


'D:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 720/406.


'D:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' track 0: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 ES video output module.


Warning: AAC files may contain HE-AAC / AAC+ / SBR AAC audio. This can NOT be detected automatically. Therefore you have to specifiy '--aac-is-sbr 0' manually for this input file if the file actually contains SBR AAC. The file will be muxed in the WRONG way otherwise. Also read mkvmerge's documentation.


'D:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.aac' track 0: Using the AAC output module.


The file 'D:\Video.mkv' has been opened for writing.

As you can see I´m using mkvtoolnix 3.2.0. The Video created plays fine. I post this just for information, it seems a little paramter is missing.

pacaveli211
22nd February 2010, 19:51
xantius: make sure your last step is going into the video properties (where you set resize, crop, etc options) and clicking ok. if you don't do this sometimes, it seems, it doesn't properly write the script, then consequently the video doesn't process properly and you end up with a scrolling / flickering green thing. at least this is what I've found from my experience.

xantius
22nd February 2010, 20:12
xantius: make sure your last step is going into the video properties (where you set resize, crop, etc options) and clicking ok. if you don't do this sometimes, it seems, it doesn't properly write the script, then consequently the video doesn't process properly and you end up with a scrolling / flickering green thing. at least this is what I've found from my experience.

I've had videos that were in queue. Some were resized to run on my blackberry (480x360) and others were resized to 720p, but that still happened. In fact, if I convert 1 video after a fresh reboot, it will convert fine. Then if I exit RipBot and start it again, and then load the same file to convert (didn't keep it in que, but browsing for it just like it did the 1st time), it will still be scrambled like that.

illestdomer2005
22nd February 2010, 22:09
Application Name: x264_x86.exe.
i posted the log above few replies if you look back . avisynth is the application in the log crashing . but i removed and reinstalled without any result. this is really frustrating . i am using bsplayer 2.51 with its own codecs . but i noticed fddshows changes when i use ripbot and bsplayer crashes afterwards.
this should be simple. installation . was working under xp . but another beast under windows 7 .32bits
this is really frustrating as i can't understand why when following simple guidelines of install . i get this crap .
and i an not a pc geek on ffdshows and other codecs use .

Did you uninstall bsplayer and try it? I'm not sure if it installs codecs on your system or not, but that could be a problem. As a rule of thumb, you only want ONE set of codecs on your system. You don't want K-Lite, CCCP, FFdshow, et al installed on there at the same time...

Also, it looks like x264 crashed. You might try replacing x264 with a previous version. Has this same thing happened for you on multiple discs, or are you just trying the same one? I have had problems in the past with a certain disc, and it ended up being scratched or faulty in some other way.

xantius
22nd February 2010, 23:13
xantius: make sure your last step is going into the video properties (where you set resize, crop, etc options) and clicking ok. if you don't do this sometimes, it seems, it doesn't properly write the script, then consequently the video doesn't process properly and you end up with a scrolling / flickering green thing. at least this is what I've found from my experience.

pacaveli211, when I got home, I tried it to make sure that was the last step I did, and sure enough it works fine.

Thanks a bunch!

Atak_Snajpera
23rd February 2010, 01:02
@xantius
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/
BTW. I had the same problem some time ago. Problem disapeared when I installed newer ffdshow version.

@stasi
I will add that switch

pacaveli211
23rd February 2010, 01:23
last time I tried to update my ffdshow it broke everything else =\

WildTexasChef
23rd February 2010, 10:55
Is there anyway in rip bot to change the Frame reference number from 2 to 3, or even to 4?

I ahve also noticed that in 2-Pass mode that KBPS is limited to 8192kbps. Is there anyway to increase that?

I have a Blu-ray that I ripped to my hard drive with AnyDVD and stored on my NAS server as backup. The original video encoding of the Blu-ray is allready in H.264.

I notice a HUGE difference in video quality on my 65" plasma between playing the M2TS file at its full bit rate of almost 25mbps and after I make it into an MKV with a bit rate of only 8192kbsp.

I love how RiPbot works. Expecaily when converting VC-1 to H.264. However the Bitrate is to low for my needs. I would like it to be higher so that I can get better quality video.

Thanks

WTC

Atak_Snajpera
23rd February 2010, 12:07
I ahve also noticed that in 2-Pass mode that KBPS is limited to 8192kbps. Is there anyway to increase that?
eee i don't know. You will have to figure out something.

I love how RiPbot works. Expecaily when converting VC-1 to H.264. However the Bitrate is to low for my needs. I would like it to be higher so that I can get better quality video.
You should ask yourself "WHY I don't just use CQ@18"??
Answer to that question would be "Because I like to waste time and space"

Balthazar2k4
23rd February 2010, 15:35
Since I really don't feel like experimenting, does the latest ffdshow still cause problems with RipBot?

Atak_Snajpera
23rd February 2010, 15:42
why don't you check?

Discoboy
23rd February 2010, 17:11
Since I really don't feel like experimenting, does the latest ffdshow still cause problems with RipBot?

Yes r3274 Feb 19th 2010 is working all OK for me

consultant
23rd February 2010, 19:01
Any ideas why RipBot would just stop. I'm encoding Star Trek 2 Search for Spock and at 28.1% done, it doesn't go any further. No error or crash message, the progress just freezes. I restarted the encode and it did the exact same thing.

Atak_Snajpera
23rd February 2010, 19:24
try different ffdshow versions. Also make sure that your movie is not damaged @ 28.1%. Check frames belond that point.

Balthazar2k4
23rd February 2010, 20:24
why don't you check?

Well I wasn't being lazy as much as I didn't want to put on the latest and then have to turn around and dig up and install an older version if it didn't work. Just trying to save some leg work as I figured someone had already tried it.

Balthazar2k4
23rd February 2010, 20:24
Yes r3274 Feb 19th 2010 is working all OK for me

Thanks!

pacaveli211
24th February 2010, 15:13
Is there anyway in rip bot to change the Frame reference number from 2 to 3, or even to 4? yes, click the [...] next to the profile in the encoding settings window

I ahve also noticed that in 2-Pass mode that KBPS is limited to 8192kbps. Is there anyway to increase that? no it's not, you can type in any custom kbps

I have a Blu-ray that I ripped to my hard drive with AnyDVD and stored on my NAS server as backup. The original video encoding of the Blu-ray is allready in H.264.

I notice a HUGE difference in video quality on my 65" plasma between playing the M2TS file at its full bit rate of almost 25mbps and after I make it into an MKV with a bit rate of only 8192kbsp. no you don't =P

I love how RiPbot works. Expecaily when converting VC-1 to H.264. However the Bitrate is to low for my needs. I would like it to be higher so that I can get better quality video. as atak said, maybe you should just be using cq18 instead of messing with 2pass

beb7089
24th February 2010, 16:29
Has anybody ever successfully been able to encode a video with RipBot264 for the iPod and been able to sync it to their iPod? I get a message in iTunes that states that the video is not compatiable with my iPod.

My iPod is the 5.5G and firmware 1.3

I have successfully created hundreds and hundres of video for my AppleTV using RipBot264 that work flawlessly. But I have always use Handbrake when I want to create videos specifically for my iPod. I would like to use RipBot264 due to it updated with the latest tools and the fact it performs inverse telcine with better quality than handbrake could.

I've tried the [Base3.0] iPod... profile just the way it was distributed. I also altered the profile to level 2.1, 2.2 with no help. Tried removing all the microblock option and no work. Tried removing adaptive quantization and no work. Reduced MaxBitrate and no work.

I took one of my videos done on handbrake and a the video done with the default [Base3.0] iPod profile and use mediainfo to compare. Couldn't find anything setting that is different other than the encoding and wrapping tools used.

Could mp4box be causing the issue? I've tried removing the -MPEG4 switch out of the mux.cmd file.

Please assist.

Thanks

prettyboy85712
24th February 2010, 16:40
Has anybody ever successfully been able to encode a video with RipBot264 for the iPod and been able to sync it to their iPod? I get a message in iTunes that states that the video is not compatiable with my iPod.

My iPod is the 5.5G and firmware 1.3

I have successfully created hundreds and hundres of video for my AppleTV using RipBot264 that work flawlessly. But I have always use Handbrake when I want to create videos specifically for my iPod. I would like to use RipBot264 due to it updated with the latest tools and the fact it performs inverse telcine with better quality than handbrake could.

I've tried the [Base3.0] iPod... profile just the way it was distributed. I also altered the profile to level 2.1, 2.2 with no help. Tried removing all the microblock option and no work. Tried removing adaptive quantization and no work. Reduced MaxBitrate and no work.

I took one of my videos done on handbrake and a the video done with the default [Base3.0] iPod profile and use mediainfo to compare. Couldn't find anything setting that is different other than the encoding and wrapping tools used.

Could mp4box be causing the issue? I've tried removing the -MPEG4 switch out of the mux.cmd file.

Please assist.

Thanks

Obviously you didn't search this thread very hard.

beb7089
24th February 2010, 16:46
Obviously you didn't search this thread very hard.

I've read over the thread quite a bit for the last couple days. Tried a lot of the "here is what fixed my problem" resolutions with no success.

I'm asking for help...not criticism.

beb7089
24th February 2010, 17:16
OK...Here's a real head scratcher..

Took [Base3.0] iPod profile and lowered level to 2.1 and double checked that ref = 1

Set video output to 480x272
Birate set to 512 and AAC to 128


iTunes still will not sync this file to my iPod but will play it fine in iTunes.

pacaveli211
24th February 2010, 21:35
Obviously you didn't search this thread very hard.

this thread is ~350 pages....it takes years to sort through
you could at least give him a link to the post or something

prettyboy85712
24th February 2010, 22:18
OK...Here's a real head scratcher..

Took [Base3.0] iPod profile and lowered level to 2.1 and double checked that ref = 1

Set video output to 480x272
Birate set to 512 and AAC to 128


iTunes still will not sync this file to my iPod but will play it fine in iTunes.

What's your source?

beb7089
24th February 2010, 22:30
What's your source?

MPEG2 720x480 .vob file

Atak_Snajpera
24th February 2010, 22:38
http://www.mediafire.com/file/znzi5jgijiw/[BASE 1.3] iPOD 5.5.txt
copy this file to profiles folder
also use 320x240 resolution

BTW you don't need itunes to copy files to your ipod. http://www.floola.com/

beb7089
24th February 2010, 22:38
The problem appears to be with mp4box itself. If you look inside the job1_MuxFile.cmd you'll see variable "-IPOD". This variable is to ad an "atom" for ipods. It appears to be not working.

After search through other resources, I came across "nicMP4Box" and used it to wrap my 480x272 video and aac audio that were encoded with Ripbot. It would now sync to my ipod but due to the 480 resolution it would not fill the screen on the ipod display.

Testing a 640x480 resolution now and using the nicMP4Box.exe to wrap it up instead of MP4Box.exe that came with RipBot 1.15.0

beb7089
24th February 2010, 23:05
http://www.mediafire.com/file/znzi5jgijiw/[BASE 1.3] iPOD 5.5.txt
copy this file to profiles folder
also use 320x240 resolution

BTW you don't need itunes to copy files to your ipod. http://www.floola.com/

I downloaded the profile file and reduce resolution to 320x240 and bitrate to 512. Still the file would not sync to my ipod.

I use iTunes on my MacBook to sync with since I have purchased TV and Movies. I encode on my Windows machine and then transfer the file to my Mac to add to iTunes.

Atak_Snajpera
24th February 2010, 23:17
wouldn't be easier windows -> floola ?

pacaveli211
25th February 2010, 02:21
I use winamp for ipod stuff. I don't know if it'll do video though

beb7089
25th February 2010, 04:39
Found the issue.

RipBot264 uses MP4Box to wrap up the video and audio streams into a MP4 container. MP4Box uses variable -IPOD in the job1_MuxFiles.cmd file to add the uuid atom for iPod 5.5G models (aka iPod Classic). Unfortunately mp4box is not adding this special atom into the mp4 file. This atom tells iTunes that H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels videos can be played on iPod 5.5G

Could not get mp4box to work for nothing.

Then I found nicmp4box.exe and it was "tweaked" to import this special atom automatically. nicmp4box.exe works great. It wraps up my video and audio into an mp4 container and will sync from iTunes to my iPod.

nicmp4box.exe (http://nic.dnsalias.com/NicMP4Box.zip)

stinman
25th February 2010, 05:51
Is this true?Do I just replace the x264 with the 64bit x264 in the tools?Or what.Thanks for a great program Atak_Snajpera
Oops,I just seen it was in the x264 folder,I guess it will use it automatically.Sorry about the n00b question,still gave me the chance to say thanks for your program.

stinman

J33pman
25th February 2010, 20:28
I have run into an issue while ripping my Star Trek Original Series BDs. Season1 went fine, but 5 disks of Season 2, and now several of Season 3 fail to rip the first episode in the drop down. All subsequent eqpisodes rip and encode fine. I also tried ripping the disk to the hard drive first, with the same result: DirectShowSource: couldn't open file D:\Temp\RipBot264\job4\video.mkv: The system cannot find the file specified. (D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job4\getinfo.avs, line2)

I looked through the site for a while, but didn't see a similar error. As I said, it's only the first "track" and the rest of the disk rips without incident.

Thoughts?

Thanks for your help!

pacaveli211
25th February 2010, 21:25
I have run into an issue while ripping my Star Trek Original Series BDs. Season1 went fine, but 5 disks of Season 2, and now several of Season 3 fail to rip the first episode in the drop down. All subsequent eqpisodes rip and encode fine. I also tried ripping the disk to the hard drive first, with the same result: DirectShowSource: couldn't open file D:\Temp\RipBot264\job4\video.mkv: The system cannot find the file specified. (D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job4\getinfo.avs, line2)

I looked through the site for a while, but didn't see a similar error. As I said, it's only the first "track" and the rest of the disk rips without incident.

Thoughts?

Thanks for your help!

demux the audio and video (if it's vc-1 mux back into an mkv instead of an m2ts)

beb7089
25th February 2010, 22:24
Found the issue.

RipBot264 uses MP4Box to wrap up the video and audio streams into a MP4 container. MP4Box uses variable -IPOD in the job1_MuxFiles.cmd file to add the uuid atom for iPod 5.5G models (aka iPod Classic). Unfortunately mp4box is not adding this special atom into the mp4 file. This atom tells iTunes that H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels videos can be played on iPod 5.5G

Could not get mp4box to work for nothing.

Then I found nicmp4box.exe and it was "tweaked" to import this special atom automatically. nicmp4box.exe works great. It wraps up my video and audio into an mp4 container and will sync from iTunes to my iPod.

nicmp4box.exe (http://nic.dnsalias.com/NicMP4Box.zip)

UPDATE...

Well I thought NICMP4BOX.EXE would resolve my issue and it did about 25% of the time. Not a very good solution.

I took a video processed with RipBot using base3.0 640x480 1.5Mbps and gave it to my buddy to try on his iPod touch. It worked and synced with no issues.

I've decided that it was too much work and troubleshooting to get the iPod 5g atom applied to the mp4 file. Decided after 2 yrs of having my iPod 5G it was time to upgrade to an iPod touch.

xantius
26th February 2010, 02:08
@xantius
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/
BTW. I had the same problem some time ago. Problem disapeared when I installed newer ffdshow version.


Atak_Snajpera, I've tried installing newer and different versions of ffdshow, but unless the last step isn't going into the video properties (where you set resize, crop, etc options) and clicking ok, like pacaveli211 suggested, the video doesn't resize properly, and encodes very very slowly (10 fps max as opposed to 100+ fps). Would you mind giving me the info or link to the exact version of ffdshow that you're using? I would just like to eliminate any doubt about weather or not it's the filter.

Atak_Snajpera
26th February 2010, 14:13
Ok. I have the same problem. I didn't notice that before. I always check audio sync in preview so I always go to properties.

UPDATE: Ok I finally found the problem. It will be fixed in new version. New version will be released after NAL-HRD patch is 100% stable.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152127

Temporary solution :
Usex264x64=0

J33pman
26th February 2010, 18:53
demux the audio and video (if it's vc-1 mux back into an mkv instead of an m2ts)
I guess I'm still a little confused, as I always choose MKV encoding. The app goes through the first "Demuxing selected streams" and goes to 100% on the first pass (they always go through this twice for some reason) but throws up the error on the second pass. Do I need to demux these with another app? If so, what do you recommend? Thanks!

Atak_Snajpera
26th February 2010, 19:04
demuxlog.txt should tell you what went wrong

Arbelisk
26th February 2010, 20:00
I guess I'm still a little confused, as I always choose MKV encoding. The app goes through the first "Demuxing selected streams" and goes to 100% on the first pass (they always go through this twice for some reason) but throws up the error on the second pass. Do I need to demux these with another app? If so, what do you recommend? Thanks!

I can confirm your error. I am trying to convert the same discs and the error shows up with the first episode but the rest work fine. Seems to be a problem with the Arcsoft Decoder or the Blu-Ray files themselves.

M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 0:50:40, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 6 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 7.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: AC3, Spanish, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: AC3, French, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: Subtitle (PGS), English
8: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
9: Subtitle (PGS), French
10: Subtitle (PGS), Portuguese
Creating file "D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[s07] Extracting subtitle track number 7...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
[a03] Reducing depth from 24 to 16 bits...
[a03] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a03] Creating file "D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio_English.dtsma.flac"...
[s07] Creating file "D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\7_subtitles_English_1080.sup"...
[a03] The ArcSoft DTS Decoder reported an error while decoding. <ERROR>
Aborted at file position 7906023424. <ERROR>

J33pman
26th February 2010, 20:10
Yep, that's it.

pacaveli211
26th February 2010, 20:50
I guess I'm still a little confused, as I always choose MKV encoding. The app goes through the first "Demuxing selected streams" and goes to 100% on the first pass (they always go through this twice for some reason) but throws up the error on the second pass. Do I need to demux these with another app? If so, what do you recommend? Thanks!

the demux / remux into mkv I was talking about would require tsmuxer and mkvmerge (both freeware)
tsmuxer can extract the audio and video streams you want. it can also extract the DTS core in the same step if you're not going to keep the full HD track. from there you can mux them back into an MKV file with mkvmerge and then try processing that file with ripbot. not steps that you should necessarily have to do or anything, but it might process properly after doing so

Arbelisk
26th February 2010, 20:53
the demux / remux into mkv I was talking about would require tsmuxer and mkvmerge (both freeware)
tsmuxer can extract the audio and video streams you want. it can also extract the DTS core in the same step if you're not going to keep the full HD track. from there you can mux them back into an MKV file with mkvmerge and then try processing that file with ripbot. not steps that you should necessarily have to do or anything, but it might process properly after doing so

That does work, but you will not get FLAC Audio. I tried converting the Audio seperately with Eac3to, but got an error with that as well.

pacaveli211
26th February 2010, 21:24
if you mux in the HD track (into the mkv) or import the raw DTS-HD track into ripbot do you still have trouble?

xantius
27th February 2010, 00:01
Ok. I have the same problem. I didn't notice that before. I always check audio sync in preview so I always go to properties.

UPDATE: Ok I finally found the problem. It will be fixed in new version. New version will be released after NAL-HRD patch is 100% stable.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152127

Temporary solution :
Usex264x64=0

Dziękuję Atak_Snajpera. Looking forward to the release :)

I'm guessing "Usex264x64=0" was meant to be "Use x264 x64 =0", right? In which case, I'm wondering where I should download it from (x264.nl ?), and where do I place it, or how do I get RipBot to use it?

Thanks again :)

Atak_Snajpera
27th February 2010, 00:19
edit ripbot264.ini :)

pacaveli211
27th February 2010, 03:02
or.....just make sure you go into the properties as your last step
as the x264 x64 gives you faster processing

xantius
27th February 2010, 06:27
or.....just make sure you go into the properties as your last step
as the x264 x64 gives you faster processing

... So if I edit the .ini file, I can turn it off and not have to worry about the issue, but if I go into properties as my last step, I can continue using x264 x64, which is faster...
Got it :)

Thanks :)

arapkadri
27th February 2010, 12:04
hi
This version x264 core 85 r1442kGIT 781d300 was working very good, but the new version did not work.

x264.1462kGIT why this version did not work :confused:

http://komisar.gin.by/

WildTexasChef
28th February 2010, 01:41
You should ask yourself "WHY I don't just use CQ@18"??
Answer to that question would be "Because I like to waste time and space"

As far as space goes... I have access to all the hard drive space I want.

If I need 500 - 2TB drives then so be it. I DON'T CARE How much space I need, or how many NAS drives I need to do it with.

I only care about picture quality.

Use CQ@18 has CRAPPY pq on my 160" projection display. The PQ coming direct from Blu-ray is superb.

Even on my 65" plasma the PQ SUCKS!

Now I will admit, on my 32" sets. I can't much difference between CQ@18 and the original blu-ray. But I can on a 65" plasma and a 160" Projection set.

As far as time goes. Doesn't matter to me either. I have my "Assistant" do it on her time. Since I pay her Salary anyways.

So give me a better excuse then your belief its a waste of time & space. I do understand that it may be a waste of time & space for YOU... but it ISN'T FOR ME!

Thank you

WTC

WildTexasChef
28th February 2010, 01:44
as atak said, maybe you should just be using cq18 instead of messing with 2pass

What is the difference? I have tried Cq18 and the PQ doesn't seem near as good as 2 pass. Is CQ18 suppose to be better? What is actually the difference?

Like I said in a previous post, I could care less how much processing time it takes, or how much space is required.

WTC

WildTexasChef
28th February 2010, 01:47
I have run into an issue while ripping my Star Trek Original Series BDs. Season1 went fine, but 5 disks of Season 2, and now several of Season 3 fail to rip the first episode in the drop down. All subsequent eqpisodes rip and encode fine. I also tried ripping the disk to the hard drive first, with the same result: DirectShowSource: couldn't open file D:\Temp\RipBot264\job4\video.mkv: The system cannot find the file specified. (D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job4\getinfo.avs, line2)

I looked through the site for a while, but didn't see a similar error. As I said, it's only the first "track" and the rest of the disk rips without incident.

Thoughts?

Thanks for your help!


I had the same problem. So I used AnyDVD HD to rip them to my SDD drive. Then I used ripbot to make them into H.264 MKV's for me. (Star Trek is using hte VC-1 codec in thier M2TS files)

Works like a charm. Looks good too (At least on my 32" HDTV)

I did that for all 3 seasons of Star Trek: TOS

WTC

dbone1026
28th February 2010, 01:47
As far as space goes... I have access to all the hard drive space I want.

If I need 500 - 2TB drives then so be it. I DON'T CARE How much space I need, or how many NAS drives I need to do it with.

I only care about picture quality.

Use CQ@18 has CRAPPY pq on my 160" projection display. The PQ coming direct from Blu-ray is superb.

Even on my 65" plasma the PQ SUCKS!

Now I will admit, on my 32" sets. I can't much difference between CQ@18 and the original blu-ray. But I can on a 65" plasma and a 160" Projection set.

As far as time goes. Doesn't matter to me either. I have my "Assistant" do it on her time. Since I pay her Salary anyways.

So give me a better excuse then your belief its a waste of time & space. I do understand that it may be a waste of time & space for YOU... but it ISN'T FOR ME!

Thank you

WTC

Not trying to ruffle any feathers here but you state all you care about it PQ. If so then why exactly are you encoding??? You don't care about space, so just using MakeMKV, Clown_BD, or Another eac3to GUI, and create a 1:1 copy of the original. No need to worry about the PQ regardless of what size display you are viewing on.

WildTexasChef
28th February 2010, 01:56
Not trying to ruffle any feathers here but you state all you care about it PQ. If so then why exactly are you encoding??? You don't care about space, so just using MakeMKV, Clown_BD, or Another eac3to GUI, and create a 1:1 copy of the original. No need to worry about the PQ regardless of what size display you are viewing on.

To make a long story short. 98% of my use of Ripbot is to take BD movies that have used the VC-1 encoding and convert them to H.264 encoded MKV files.

VC-1 codec isn't a widely accepted formate for many hardware media players. As in their firmware has not yet been upgraded to make use of the VC-1 codec. As a result conversion from VC-1 to H.264 is required.

In my home, playing VC-1 content isn't a major issue even though my LG BD390 player doesn't like VC-1 MKV's I do have other options to play VC-1 encoded MKV's in my home. It is elsewhere when I play them that it begins to become a major issue. On other media players.

Even though space is not an issue or concern for me. Trying to maintain multiple versions & MKV's of the same movie is a PIA. Therefore I would like just ONE file that I can play on all my required media players with the best quality possible.

Honestly I would rather not have to re-encode at all if I didn't have too. But some Blu-rays have to be because of the VC-1 encoding.

WTC

P.S. I am using MakeMKV for h.264 encoded Blu-rays. If it has the capability to convert VC-1 to h.264 I sure haven't figured out how to do it yet! LOL

crackinhedz
28th February 2010, 03:01
Hey Atak, got a question for you (or for anyone else?)

...recently upgraded my OS from Vista 64 to Windows 7 64bit. (Quad Core processor)

Obviously I had to re-install EVERYTHING, and before, Ripbot was set up perfect to my liking, but now Im not sure if I missed something or some of my encoder/decoders not working properly...I am using latest up-to-date Haali, FFDShow, AviSynth.

The movie is "9" 1080p, and im running CQ18. Before I would expect the total time to be around 8-9 hours, but im looking at close to 14 hours.

When I hover over the Ripbot process it shows:

pass 1 [6%] 6960/114227 frames, 2.80 fps, 6027kbps eta ~12:36:52


...does this sound right? Since Im using 64 bit, does it automatically select x264 64 bit?

Im thinking there is something I can tweak, because it seemed to run a bit faster on Vista 64.

Thanks for your time, and again awesome program!!

xantius
28th February 2010, 03:42
Hey Atak, got a question for you (or for anyone else?)

...recently upgraded my OS from Vista 64 to Windows 7 64bit. (Quad Core processor)

Obviously I had to re-install EVERYTHING, and before, Ripbot was set up perfect to my liking, but now Im not sure if I missed something or some of my encoder/decoders not working properly...I am using latest up-to-date Haali, FFDShow, AviSynth.

The movie is "9" 1080p, and im running CQ18. Before I would expect the total time to be around 8-9 hours, but im looking at close to 14 hours.

When I hover over the Ripbot process it shows:




...does this sound right? Since Im using 64 bit, does it automatically select x264 64 bit?

Im thinking there is something I can tweak, because it seemed to run a bit faster on Vista 64.

Thanks for your time, and again awesome program!!


crackinhedz, I was having an issue with encoding, and pacaveli211 suggested that the last step is going into the video properties (where you set resize, crop, etc options) and clicking ok. if you don't do this sometimes, it seems, it doesn't properly write the script.

dbone1026
28th February 2010, 13:00
To make a long story short. 98% of my use of Ripbot is to take BD movies that have used the VC-1 encoding and convert them to H.264 encoded MKV files.

VC-1 codec isn't a widely accepted formate for many hardware media players. As in their firmware has not yet been upgraded to make use of the VC-1 codec. As a result conversion from VC-1 to H.264 is required.

In my home, playing VC-1 content isn't a major issue even though my LG BD390 player doesn't like VC-1 MKV's I do have other options to play VC-1 encoded MKV's in my home. It is elsewhere when I play them that it begins to become a major issue. On other media players.

Even though space is not an issue or concern for me. Trying to maintain multiple versions & MKV's of the same movie is a PIA. Therefore I would like just ONE file that I can play on all my required media players with the best quality possible.

Honestly I would rather not have to re-encode at all if I didn't have too. But some Blu-rays have to be because of the VC-1 encoding.

WTC

P.S. I am using MakeMKV for h.264 encoded Blu-rays. If it has the capability to convert VC-1 to h.264 I sure haven't figured out how to do it yet! LOL

Make sense. VC-1 is a PITA. I honestly have never had issues playing VC-1 on any of my extenders, but gotta hack around Windows if you want it to play back properly.

Lighto
28th February 2010, 16:40
Hi there, I can't get RipBot264's preview to work with .sub subtitles.
I keep getting,

VobSub: Can't open "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\test.sub"
(D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\job2_preview.avs, line 35)


Any comments on this issue will be appreciated.:thanks:

crackinhedz
28th February 2010, 17:33
ok to follow up, the conversion is finished...actually only took 10h:30m:04s !!

The original file size was 19.6 GB, the final size after completion is 3.71 GB :eek:

wow, im impressed...didnt take as long as I first thought, and compressed below 5GB! insane.

The file plays fine but I have not given a run though my 50" plasma, but from the looks on my 19" LCD monitor quality seems fine? :)

james2432
28th February 2010, 19:18
It would be awesome if I could rip dual audio into an mkv, but it doesn't seem to support it :(