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kellogg

2nd July 2007, 23:57

*.mp4 guy

3rd July 2007, 00:20

This is obviously automated spam, but what I can't figure out is why someone would auto-spam this.

kellogg

3rd July 2007, 00:56

this is not spam,it's a simple question....

mitsubishi

3rd July 2007, 01:01

I'm not sure what mp4 guy is on about, if there is one thing this isn't, it's "automated spam", especially since this is a modified version of an earlier post. That post was locked for rule 12, but you also seem to be breaking two counts of rule 6!

FishTank

3rd July 2007, 01:50

What is a really good quality movie you have seen for about 200-300kbps

i've seen one, on the same day i've seen the monster of loch ness.

DarkZell666

3rd July 2007, 12:46

What is a really good quality movie you have seen for about 200-300kbps (with standard definition resolution)
If you can send me a link to see a really good quality movie with this bitrate it would be great
thanks!

I do understand mp4 guy's post, the question is so dumb it either betrays total newbism (no offense, we've all been newbs at least once ;)) or disguised attempts to obtain some movies illegally.

Anyhow, why do you believe such a thing actually exists ? Who might have told you such a lie ? My usual anime encodings (512x384 @ 25fps) are watchable at that bitrate but it's far from "great quality".

Also what resolution are you interested in ? What framerate ? On what device do you plan on watching such a video ?

i've seen one, on the same day i've seen the monster of loch ness.Fish tanks are big enough for nessy ? *run's away before he get's eaten* :D

Edit : anyway, the only thing worth watching that could look good at that bitrate is a wall with paint drying (somewhat more interesting that reality TV shows ;)).

Dark Shikari

3rd July 2007, 16:09

If you really want high quality at that low a bitrate, from my experience you need very high quality source material, as at low bitrates every artifact from the source that you encode is that much of a waste.

mitsubishi

3rd July 2007, 16:30

Well if you could check out "Blue", (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106438/) I'm sure you could get that down to a pretty low bitrate, since it's just a blue screen.

Dark Shikari

3rd July 2007, 16:39

Well if you could check out "Blue", (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106438/) I'm sure you could get that down to a pretty low bitrate, since it's just a blue screen.
:p:p:p:p

R3Z

5th July 2007, 07:31

kellogg

6th July 2007, 17:16

Heres an example of decent quality at 300kbps;

http://users.on.net/inet_s51/300kbps.mp4

Keep in mind the clip is slow motion. Heres the settings used;

- 3 pass bitrate 300kbps
- trellis 2, subme7
- 10 ref frames, 4 bframes
- deblock 0,0
- me umh, mixed refs

Not bad really.

Thanks...I like the quality of this movie, and the resolution is what i'm looking for. anybody else seen things like that?

*.mp4 guy

6th July 2007, 17:57

...I thought it was auto-spam because there were two (they looked identicle to me, but I didn't pay much attention) nearly identicle posts in a short timeframe, and the other obvious spam like qualities of the post.

PuzZLeR

6th July 2007, 18:43

I remember the good ol' days, when I was first encoding with DivX and how I enjoyed the neat little files from 800kbps to 1000kbps. I actually enjoyed that quality.

Then I wanted better quality. And more. And more. Now I can't watch anything under 1500kbps, even with AVC.

Is this something that normally happens with us enthusiasts?

So, it goes without saying, give me a clip at 300kbps, even on a small screen, I would find it unbearable today...

Selur

7th July 2007, 00:00

Is this something that normally happens with us enthusiasts?
My vote goes for: Yes!

SealTooGreat

7th July 2007, 21:14

Then I wanted better quality. And more. And more. Now I can't watch anything under 1500kbps, even with AVC.

When I've realized that, I've turned to XviD. :D (though not completely :rolleyes:)

PuzZLeR

8th July 2007, 04:49

When I've realized that, I've turned to XviD. :D (though not completely :rolleyes:)

Well, when you keep wanting more and more bitrate, what's the point in x264/AVC? At higher bitrates DivX and Xvid are very good too, so I see one reason why you and I still go there. The quicker encoding times are also very nice...

If this upward trend continues I may even decide on keeping the original source in the first place then (usually MPEG-2).:(