Lightning UK, got a question about DVD Decrypt

[LotionBoy]

Just downloaded and tried DVD Decryptor and I love it (so much faster than some other rippers :-). I was just wondering what new features are in the works, specifically is there going to be stream ripping. Thanks for the great work.

LotionBoy

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I had started to implement stream ripping in v3.0.0.9 but decided against it in the end because it would mean huge changes would have to be made to the 'write' thread. It was just too messy for my liking. There are tools out there now that can rip from VOB straight to WAV (and mp3?).... I figure its better to stick with being a decent, reliable and fast decrypter rather than a piece of bloatware.
I know many 'newbies' want tools that do everything but they must realise these extra features come at the expense of something else (i.e. stability) - especially when a program is in its early development stages.

Ive left the 'Stream Information' in though...just in case I decided to finish the implementation at a later date. (The two features are very similar...the ripping one just writes what it finds :-)

The new one will be out in a couple of days.
I guess besides the 'stream information', the other major new thing is 'ISO' mode - where you can read off the entire DVD to an ISO image file that can then be burnt onto DVD-R or mounted as a virtual drive by the likes of Deamon Tools. It now supports Windows XP styles/themes (buttons etc.)
There have been lots of bug fixes too :)

[maven]

talking about bloating and implementing xp-themes ^_^

the prettiest ripper of the world award goes to...



;)

[LotionBoy]

the reason that I asked about Stream Ripping is that I've had lots of trouble with Vob2Audio and Graphedit in removing AC3 files from vobs, problems which vanished when I switched to stream processing (the trouble was corrupt AC3 files).

LotionBoy

[nitro]

Originally posted by LIGHTNING UK!
I had started to implement stream ripping in v3.0.0.9 but decided against it in the end because it would mean huge changes would have to be made to the 'write' thread. It was just too messy for my liking. There are tools out there now that can rip from VOB straight to WAV (and mp3?).... I figure its better to stick with being a decent, reliable and fast decrypter rather than a piece of bloatware.
I know many 'newbies' want tools that do everything but they must realise these extra features come at the expense of something else (i.e. stability) - especially when a program is in its early development stages.

Ive left the 'Stream Information' in though...just in case I decided to finish the implementation at a later date. (The two features are very similar...the ripping one just writes what it finds :-)

The new one will be out in a couple of days.
I guess besides the 'stream information', the other major new thing is 'ISO' mode - where you can read off the entire DVD to an ISO image file that can then be burnt onto DVD-R or mounted as a virtual drive by the likes of Deamon Tools. It now supports Windows XP styles/themes (buttons etc.)
There have been lots of bug fixes too :)

I tried DVD Decryptor, but unlike SmartRipper it doesn't parse and produce a .lst file for you. At only about 1 minute quicker than SmartRipper it takes longer than that to manually create the .lst file.....

[LotionBoy]

uhm, GKnot will create a lst file for you. You just need to drag, drop and click.

LotionBoy

[nitro]

Originally posted by LotionBoy
uhm, GKnot will create a lst file for you. You just need to drag, drop and click.

LotionBoy

Aahh...another download and another different tool, that I have never had and have absolutely no use for, just to create a file that the ripper should make for me?

Don't think so. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Gone are the days when a ripper just needed to rip.....now they have to do all sorts of 'EXTRA' stuff....soon you'll be wanting them to make the tea!

[nitro]

Originally posted by LIGHTNING UK!
Gone are the days when a ripper just needed to rip.....now they have to do all sorts of 'EXTRA' stuff....soon you'll be wanting them to make the tea!

Well, if you could make it whip up a batch of home brew....

[LIGHTNING UK!]

That is planned for v4 ;)

[LotionBoy]

now, if you could get it to do my C homework, so I can spend all my time ripping . . . :-)

LotionBoy

[LIGHTNING UK!]

If you need help with any C (C++) stuff, send it my way....I'll help you out if I can :)

[LotionBoy]

thanks for the offer. At the moment I can pretty much handle what my CompSci classes are throwing at me. Just a pain sometimes to write absolutely pointless programs (like a spreadsheet in 16-bit Assembly. I was read to frieking kill someone). :-)

LotionBoy

[warrior15r]

HEY Lightning, can you help me? I've been using your decryptor for quite awhile now. I have a HUGE problem. Every once in a while i run into a movie where the .ifo file will not open the movie completely. Some examples are Enemy of the State, Disney's The KID, Lady and The Tramp. (ALL NTSC of course.) They all only open the movie 3/4 of the way to encode. I've haven't tried your latest version yet, But I will do it after this message. Have you fixed this problem? Is this a Known problem.

Currently using 3.0.0.8

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I'm not 100% clear on what you are going on about but here goes!
I believe Disney's The Kid is a multiangle film so DVD Decrypter may or may not work with it properly.
By the sounds of it, you are using Flask or XMPEG to encode....for these programs to work properly, you need to turn OFF multiangle processing because they do the IFO parsing and if my program has removed some of the 'angle' sectors then they wont like it very much.
Other than that, I see no reason for that to happen. If the rip works 100%, then its more an encoding issue than a decrypting one.

[warrior15r]

Originally posted by LIGHTNING UK!
I'm not 100% clear on what you are going on about but here goes!
I believe Disney's The Kid is a multiangle film so DVD Decrypter may or may not work with it properly.
By the sounds of it, you are using Flask or XMPEG to encode....for these programs to work properly, you need to turn OFF multiangle processing because they do the IFO parsing and if my program has removed some of the 'angle' sectors then they wont like it very much.
Other than that, I see no reason for that to happen. If the rip works 100%, then its more an encoding issue than a decrypting one.


AS a matter of fact, I'm am using xmpeg. I checked my dvd decryptor on both of my computers, they are both turned off. I still cannot encode the entire movie. Do you know any other way to get around this? It just does not encode the entire movie on any of these moveis that i listed before. Is there another program that i can use to decrypt other than dvd decryptor for xmpeg to encode it properly. I don't believe it can be the xmpeg settings because it only has this 3/4 of the movie encoding problem on some movies, not all. Anything else you suggest LIGHTNING UK?

[warrior15r]

Oh yeah, when i said turned off, I meant multi angle processing for dvd decryptor is turned off.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You can try any of the other rippers but I would be VERY suprised if it worked with them. Mine does the least amount of changing because of its non-ifo parsing nature. Does the program (XMPEG) give you any sort of error message / code, or does it just quit?

[warrior15r]

XMPEG just ends. I also know whether the movie will encode all the way or not. In the preview area in Xmpeg, I move the preview bar all the way to the right to the last frame once the vob file is opened. It ends 3/4 of the way through the movie. It seems as though it doesn't open the last vob or something. This is just a guess. Any more suggestions LIGHTNING UK?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I dont really know what else to say......you're not merging the files or anything are you?

[Bugs Bunny]

Hey ya Lighting UK and Maven bubbas nice to see old blokes still around. Umm replying to Warrior bloke I use both DVD Decrypter and SmartRipper as each has its own strength. Decrypt is ultra stable and does non-IFO rips, so I use that to do the ripping. For multiangle stuff or anything that is stream-specific, then I use SmartRipper and point it to the already ripped-VOBs on the HD. Smart's problem is that it doesn't handle encrypted VOBs as well as Decrypt does and likes to crash ALOT like MUCHO! But Smart works great when the CSS stuff is already stripped off with Decrypt.

Drawback to this is that you have to have enough space for 2 copies of the VOBs, but that's what those cheapo large-cap hard drives are for.

@ Lighting & Fixture UK bubba: Hey with the DVD image rip, does that mean the CSS stuff is gone? Also Macrovision?

[warrior15r]

No I am not. If its possible, please try these movies for yourself. They all have the same problem for me. Or anyone please try to encode these movies using dvd decryptor & xmepg4.2a. Tell me if you guys have the same problem. You don't even have to encode. Just open the vob files with xmpeg 4.2a after you have copied it to your harddrive using dvd decryptor. PLEASE HELP ME ANYONE! Can you think of anything else LIGHTNING UK? Please try for yourself.

ALL ARE NTSC:

Disney's The Kid
Enemy of The State
Beethoven
Lady & The Tramp
007 Tomorrow Never Dies SPECIAL EDITION

[Doom9]

if I'm not mistaken all these titles have multiangles. As you may know.. flask/xmpeg is the best program if you want to have annoying bugs and crashes all the way... I strongly suggest you dump that prog and move over to GKnot.. it's not really more complicated (and we're working hard to make it as easy as Xmpeg) but you won't have to deal with the crap flask/xmpeg gives you anymore. Specifically.. you use SR/vStrip to rip these movies and you don't have to worry about multiangles ever again.