Upscaling Of divx

[djimmortal]

I'm planning to buy a lcd and mainly for watching divx(quality rips >1.5gb per movie) movies,what size should i go for 26 or 32,cos when i checked the lcd in the store with digital sdtv i could clearly see artifacts and the picture was not impressive at all

Im not xpecting HD quality ,all i want is descent picture with divx in biggest possible size

Which plays the divx best..PC or a standalone hd dvd player(will it upscale the divx)

Plz suggest ..i am really very confused

[djimmortal]

I'm planning to buy a lcd and mainly for watching divx(quality rips >1.5gb per movie) movies,what size should i go for 26 or 32,cos when i checked the lcd in the store with digital sdtv i could clearly see artifacts and the picture was not impressive at all

Im not xpecting HD quality ,all i want is descent picture with divx in biggest possible size
I wanna connect The pc with the lcd....Which Player and decoder i should use to upscale the resolution of the Divx
Plz suggest ..i am really very confused

[Awatef]

26" seems too small to me.
32" is the vital minimum I think.

I suggest you take your own HQ rips and check them in the store, because Digital SDTV is not to be compared w/ DivX. I have a DVB-S receiver at home and I can see the artefacts even though the TV is 15 years old! This is due to low bitrate MPEG-2 encoding (3 to 4 Mbit/s). If you encode w/ such bitrates in DivX, you'll be stunned how good it looks! I doubt you could even reach such bitrates, most rips will saturate on 2 Mbit/s or less!
So a standard standalone w/ component output & progressive scan will be just fine. You just make sure you take your disc to the store, compare several LCDs and pick the one that has a sharper/clearer picture :)

[djimmortal]

Thanks Bro
Which is better for DIvx PC or a standalone player,,,,,

[Awatef]

A PC will give you more freedom as to which encoding options you can use, as it can play anything you throw at it, where a standalone has some restrictions that need to be respected.
But as you're OK w/ big sized rips, the restrictions won't have an impact on quality, so a 60€ standard standalone will be just fine :)

[djimmortal]

@Awatef
Thx bro..i really appreciate it..
Will setup my My LCd and get back to ya with results

[DewAsmara]

Don't forget,
If you want to watch DivX with LCD HDTV, rip the movie using highest possible bitrate you can, if using standalone player, use Home Theater profile at 4000 bitrate. It will reduce artefact and jagging pictures. For CRT TV, at 2000 bitrate its enough but LCD need a lot extra bitrate.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Well, you can't just assume that. One movie might totally saturate at 2000, some might saturate at 8000, it all depends on the content.

Definitely don't upscale in the encoding process, unless you plan on doing full DVD backups - i e use a full DVD+R for a single movie, which gives you tons of bitrate. In this case, you could upscale to 720p or 1080p depending on what your TV (and playback device) supports, and then sharpen with SeeSaw or LimitedSharpenFaster or any other sharpener, add some grain etc, and volia...

A good and faster method is to just keep the full frame size (no upsizing), and encode using a high detail custom quant matrix like Didee's 6of9 or Sharktooth's EQM-V3HR. This should do a nice job with most movies, provided you can allocate at least half a DVD+R, maybe a full DVD+R for a long movie (3hrs+).

Thinking of exact bitrates is kind of arbitrary :)

~MiSfit

[Awatef]

Side note:
Blue's recommendations do not apply if you're looking for standalone compatibility.
At the file sizes you're using, there is no way the standard Home Theater Profile will fail you.
I usually watch my movies on my laptop, which has a 15" 1024x768 LCD panel, at only 1m distance, and I can assure you, quality is just fine w/ as "little" as 1.5 Mbit/s and no post-processing. And if your LCD has good filters (Noise reduction and stuff), it may just look perfect (that's why I told you to compare several models ;))

[SeeMoreDigital]

I generate all my MPEG-4 encodes to match the native resolution of the MPEG-2 DVD source (less the black mattes). They look great on my 42" high-def capable display :)

[pelle412]

SeeMoreDigital:

Can you see any difference from the DVD source at a reasonable viewing distance? How do you do your encodes? (size, matrix?)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Can you see any difference from the DVD source at a reasonable viewing distance? How do you do your encodes? (size, matrix?)Technically there's always some visual differences when generating encodes from one video format to another!

Currently I'm using AutoMKV to generate MPEG-4 ASP video (with 2B-VOPs over two passes) with 6Ch AAC-LC audio placed within the MP4 container.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I generate all my MPEG-4 encodes to match the native resolution of the MPEG-2 DVD source (less the black mattes).


Cheers