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dvd2svcd
1st January 2002, 23:21
Solution 1
I have made a custom build of Avisynth, which uses as fixed amount of memory and I'd like to know if maybe this could fix the CCE crash. Just download the attached zip file and put it in your c:\winnt\system32 folder. (or for those who live in the past and still uses win98/me put it in \windows\system)
And if you can, please monitor your CPU temperature and see if it gets abnormally high.
http://rilanparty.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=62889#post62889
Stars556
2nd January 2002, 00:04
Hi,
thanx a lot for this new Avisynth version ...
I will try it as soon as I cleaned up my hd for a new encode ...
Hope this version will eliminate my CCE freezes ...
In the past CCE pushed my CPU temp up to 47°C (Duron 900 MHz)... the highest temp ever measured since using my new cpu fan ...
THANX
Stars556
mrfixit
2nd January 2002, 05:26
I still live in the past but well try an encode tonight with the new avisynth. let you know what happens in 10-12 hours:)
dvd2svcd
2nd January 2002, 14:04
Solution 2
1. In the frameserver tab, select Avisynth Editing. Select "Edit as part of CCE encoding"
2. When the Edit AVS window pops up, run the VFAPI convert program (VFAPIConv-EN.exe). Load the d2v file created with dvd2svcd and convert it to an avi file. In the Edit AVS window remove these 2 lines:
a) LoadPlugin("MPEG2DEC.dll")
b) mpeg2source("DVD2AVI_Project_file.d2v")
and insert this line as the first line:
avisource("YOUR_PATH\DVD2AVI_PROJECT_FILE_d2v-vfapi.avi")
Remember to use the right path
3. Hit ok and see if this doesn't work for you. CCE will be somewhat slower, but I think this will work.
If either Solution 1 or Solution 2 works for you, please let me know and please state which solution worked.
Coentjo
2nd January 2002, 18:13
Both solutions are not working for me. When trying to load the .avs in CCE SP 2.50 the program imeediately crashes.
Coentjo
2nd January 2002, 18:15
PS. I've created a bug report and have send this to dvd2svcd@notrace.dk as asked by the program
mrfixit
2nd January 2002, 18:20
ok I tryed the avisynth fix and everything went fine. CPU did seem to run a couple of degrees warmer. The one thing I did notice and not sure if it has anything to do with this but RT droped to.430 when I normally get.630-.670 on a Duron 900 448 megs ram Win 98se
Thanks dvd2svcd tis program is by far the best for newbies. Thank you very much.
dvd2svcd
2nd January 2002, 18:56
@Coentjo:
Well, I did not mean that you should load the AVS manually, I wanted you to try it through dvd2svcd.
Try making your AVS like this instead:
avisource("E:\Temp\DVD2AVI_Project_file_d2v-vfapi.avi")
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\INVERS~1.DLL")
Trim(1,0)
InverseTelecine(40,10,15)
BiCubicResize(480,360,0.00,0.75)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
ResampleAudio(44100)
(The avisource() must be the first line)
Besides, maybe InverseTelecine doesn't work on AVISource, I haven't tried that.
Coentjo
2nd January 2002, 19:00
@dvd2svcd
First I've tried to load the .avs file through dvd2svcd (solution 1 and 2). When neither of them didn't work I've tried to load the .avs file directly. Sorry for the unclear message I've posted
dvd2svcd
2nd January 2002, 19:19
In case you didn't see, I edited my former post.
Coentjo
2nd January 2002, 21:39
After some further testing I've found the following:
1) CCE crashes, under Win XP, when trying to load an .avs file.
2) When running CCE in Win 98/ME compatibility mode under Win XP
the first 3 parts of the CCE processing (TitlePicture,
ChangeCDPicture and the creation of the .vaf file) are completed
succesfully. At the start of the 4th part CCE freezes after 5
seconds.
3) Solution 2 results in a crash (not a freeze) of CCE (bugreport
has been send to dvd2svcd.bug@notrace.dk)
4) I dindn't have time to try Solution 1 through dvd2svd. I did
however try to feed the modified .avs file to CCE directly (with
ResampleAudio(44100) as the last line). This stil results in a
crash of CCE
dvd2svcd
2nd January 2002, 21:47
You really should try to do the process again without InverseTelecine. In dvd2avi tab, set Force Film "on" and do the process from the beginning, if it still fails try the two above solutions.
Coentjo
3rd January 2002, 07:08
I've tried the following steps (in all cases CCE is running under Win XP mode so no modifications here anymore)All steps, to be sure, with Force Film so no IVTC
1) Run DVD2SVCD with the normal avisynth.dll module. Result is that
afterthe creation of the .vaf file CCE "freezes". "Freezes" is
perhaps the wrong description since CCE stops normally when I
press the cancel button. CCE just doesn't make any progress but
still consumes 99% of the CPU
2) I've loaded the CCE projectfile created by DVD2SVCD in the
previous step directly into CCE. Result is the same as above
3) Repeated step 2 but now with the modified avisynth.dll module.
Same result
3) Went back to the original avisynth.dll module. Loaded the project
file directly into CCE and changed the encoding settings to CBR
instead of 3 pass VBR. CCE works fine!
4) Same as step 3 but now with single pass VBR. CCE still works fine!
What I still have to try is running DVD2SVCD with CBR or single pass VBR for CCE but I'm pretty confident that that will work. Apearantly CCE SP 2.50 and avisynth are not working properly (at least on my PC).
xrv1138
3rd January 2002, 08:19
im presently using the adjusted avisynth dll to fix cce failing at 49% (2 attempts same failure) for gladiator pal under win xp.
will post back when/if the encoding completes.
the overall RT has dropped from 0.91 to 0.5 which is a bummer :\
dvd2svcd
3rd January 2002, 09:16
To all. The speed of CCE is very likely to drop since this is only a test. The reason you probably experience a drop in speed is because I use a Fixed amount of memory. The former versions of Avisynth uses 1/4 of all memory you have in your computer (including the size of your pagefile). So if you for instance have 128 mb ram + 768 mb pagefile it would allocate (128+768) / 4 mb of ram, and I have had a feeling that thate could give problems, and as I can read some of the above posts some users actually has success with my custom build. If more users reports success, I will see if I can make the fixed memory allocation adjustable, in that way you should be able to get the same speed as before. So, don't worry about the speed of the above avisynth, it is just a test in my quest to locate one of the damn CCE crashes.
So to sum up, the above avisynth may solve some users CCE problems, but I doubt that it will solve all CCE crashes.
xrv1138
3rd January 2002, 10:29
dvd2svcd
thanks a lot
ill let u know in about 20 hours if it works for me ;)
{morpheus}
3rd January 2002, 14:06
To Dvd2Svcd.
I'm sure you must have considered this but:
working on the theory that the vast majority of users of your program do not have any problems, and you only get posts from a small percentage of these users. it begs the questions:
1: have they installed the "current" software correctly?
I.e: uninstalled all previous components. removed all the other support programs & then downloaded and re-installed the full new package, including support programs!
2: as the problems seem to be mainly CCE based could they be using unknown quality / origin "pirate versions"?
I know I did use 2 versions myself originally which were "un-stable" when used with your program.
Just a thought! ;)
Keep up the good work! it's a cracking program
and you deserve more than just donations.
Cyber2010
3rd January 2002, 19:17
"I know I did use 2 versions myself originally which were "un-stable" when used with your program."
You mean for the CCE? Becouse for as far i now there is 1 program, 2.5 SP.
I am one of the "lucky" guys with cce problems. Tried everything. Before i had CRC error's, but patched the program. Instead of the CRC i now get the program hang. And it's always between 2 passes. For the fifth element, it's between pass 2-3. Doesn't matter if i use 5 or 4 or 3 passen, it's between 2-3. He hangs. I tried the special AMD win2k patch mentioned in Q&A, and make the swapfile 1048 mb. Same freeze. (freeze= cpu usage 100%, and nothing happend). I tried to get all un-installed, and use latest version, same freeze. Used "older" avisync.dll, same freeze. maybe the crc patch is not 100% on all systems? becouse in stead of crc i now get freeze on same point... i read that a "older" version of dvd2svcd didn't had this problem, but what is the latest, so i can try this one on the same movie. Tried for a little time the "new" written dll, but was so slow, i didn't have the time to wait. I will try tonigt. Same settings etc.
Is my next question.. when i have a movie for 70 minutes, use 2 discs, i can take a CBR for 2400-2500 with no prob. But the same movie is it in VBR 1800-2400 an avr. 2100 better quality than CBR at 2400? Less space, i now, but that's not the problem. I now this is in another post asked, but the answer where NOT for the question the guy did.
My pc is AMD 1700+ with 756 DDR and "fast" ide HD ata 100. So i don't think that's the problem. I hope the "problem" will be found fast... this is no fun ripping... but the program dvd2svcd is .... you now ;)
EMonty
3rd January 2002, 19:49
Hi,
It would be mabey an idea to check the lucky ones that have no freezing problems as why not them.
You could ask mabey questions like:
1) Is your page file on the same disk
2) CPU speed
3) type of memory modules
4) usage of an CPU
Mabey we will get an answer :rolleyes:
gldblade
3rd January 2002, 20:15
The modified Avisynth works for me.
On my computer, if I use the normal Avisynth, CCE will take up so much of the total system resources that nothing else will run. Meaning that once I start CCE, I can't start any other program since there are no resources left for them to use. Also, it eventually gets so bad the CCE itself crashes and says "Not responding" in the task manager.
However, with the new Avisynth, I can run other programs after I start CCE meaning that less resources are being used up.
I guess you have solved my big problem...
*EDIT*
Maybe I spoke too soon. I'm doing more testing now...
Mozart
3rd January 2002, 20:27
In my tests with a Dell Precision 340, P4 2GHz, 1GB RAM, CCE reachs 99% of CPU usage and 356 MB of memory. The speed of encoding is about 1.500 RT and the total memory usage is about 490 MB. Monitoring the memory I can see a spike of almost 900 MB while it is doing the transition between each pass. I'm wondering if CCE freezing doesn't have some kind of correlation with "generic" RAM. The likelyhood of some fault of these memories while they are handling this transition is pretty high.
DVDHack
3rd January 2002, 21:40
I upgraded to 105b4 in the last few days and I have done 3 encodes in that time, two have failed on me at the CCE stage, the strange thing has been where it has failed. In version 104b2 the only time CCE ever failed was when the movie was low action and it seemed to fail on average bit rate close to maximum and always at 33% ie between pass 1 and 2, I just use CBR then. With 105b4 it has failed at 17% and 31% and also one was an action film, 'The Rock'.
I'll try some of the suggested trial fixes when I get a chance.
I use 3 pass VBR, std settings, PAL, 4:3, I delete the resize line and 160Kb audio at 48KHz.
700 MHz PIII
512MB RAM
mrbass
3rd January 2002, 21:51
@Cyber2010
My pc is AMD 1700+ with 756 DDR
I assume that is three sticks of 256...Can you take out two of them and just try CCE and see if it freezes. Perhaps it's your mobo/memory combination.
xrv1138
3rd January 2002, 22:02
just tried third attempt at gladiator using the adjusted avisynth.
same freeze at exactly 49 % again (thats 3 at exactly 49 % now).
the last dvd i did on same machine with original avisynth dll was succesful. only differences are longer movie (149 minutes vs 99 minutes) and type (pal vs ntsc which was converted to pal).
so first solution doesnt work for me
will try second method.
(if that fails i still have the reduced bitrate 'fix' and remove one memory stick to try).
xrv1138
4th January 2002, 00:28
attempting to use method 2
deleted the altered avisynth dll
uninstalled dvd2svcd and reinstalled
downloaded VFAPIConv-1.04-EN.zip from the download page
unzipped this to a temp directory
ran the vifpset bat file in the codec subdirectory
ran dvd2svcd with settings as per 'solution 2'
will post back when this run ends/fails
also re-running original settings and same dvd on my piii 933 as well
in reply to those posts about incorrect install/dodgey cce etc
both of my machines have produced good quality svcds from all other dvds ive used
all other dvds have been ntsc converted to pal
and have been much shorter than gladiator
so i dont suspect my install/setup at all
will get back when present runs conclude
Cyber2010
4th January 2002, 08:51
Hi,
I tried your new avisync file. Speed was 1/2, but cpu usage was also 99%. And the movie i tried 4 times and hangs between pass 2 and 3, did the same with the new file, so no result for me ;( Still got the freeze.
What wass the last pakage of dvd2svcd that didn't have this problem? so i can try that one.
thnx for the efort.
PS.
"I assume that is three sticks of 256...Can you take out two of them and just try CCE and see if it freezes. Perhaps it's your mobo/memory combination."
Right. I try that one.
xrv1138
4th January 2002, 13:05
method 2 has failed at 49 % again
this is possibly between pass 2 and 3 (4 pass vbr)
seem to be a lot of posts for cce freezes between passes
and the memory spike mentioned by mozart may be involved here somewhere ?
going to do a normal run with max ave bitrate lower as per a few other threads here...
incidentally i have my pagefile set to 128meg (512 ram)
could this have anything to do with it ?
itimpi
4th January 2002, 13:12
I have tried various of the fixes mentioned here:
a) Using the new "fixed memory size" avisynth program
b) Reducing the Max Ave bitrate
In all cases the freeze seems to happen between the VBR passes. If I set for 3 passes then it always seems to be at 32%, and if I set 4 passes then at 49%.
I have tried about 3 different DVDs and they all exhibit the same symptoms. One of them was a NTSC and two were PAL, so it seems that NTSC->PAL conversion is not one of the factors.
In terms of machine spec in case any of it is relevant I have:
1.2Gb Athlon (266 MHz front side bus)
1Gb PC133 memory (2x512Mb)
OS is Win2K SP2 + all critical updates from Windows Update
Direct X 8.1 is isntalled
Media Player 7.1 is installed
I have had everything working in the past OK. I tend to install the latest DVD2SVCD build as it becomes available, and I am not sure at what point things started going wrong. I have just started a test where I removed the current DVD2SVCD build (1.0.5 build 4) and have put back the last 1.0.3 build to see if that works OK. I will report back if anything comes out of that test.
Cyber2010
4th January 2002, 13:24
When i read all this, one thing everytime comes back: The freeze is between 1 pass going to the next. Before i patched CCE 2.5 it would give me at this point a "CRC" error, and now it's a freeze error. So maybe the crc patch is not 100% with new dvd2svcd?
i am now testing the same movie (6 times) with 1 memorie bank, to see if it's maybe a memmorie problem... in 1 hour i will now.
But in my upinion, the crc error given before is now the freeze problem. Maybe look into that patch...
Cyber2010
4th January 2002, 14:20
I just tried it with 1 memorie module, and same freeze, so that's not the problem ;(((
Gives me a headache... can feel it in my head, straight to my butt ;(
{morpheus}
4th January 2002, 14:34
Originally posted by Cyber2010
"You mean for the CCE? Becouse for as far i now there is 1 program, 2.5 SP."
Sorry! what I meant was, that I had been used two different "..." copies of CCE v2.5
"... to remove the banner from the demo."
but they caused similar problems to those in this thread with CCE when used with dvd2svcd.
Cyber2010
4th January 2002, 14:40
"Sorry! what I meant was, that I had been used two different "..." copies of CCE v2.5
"... to remove the banner from the demo."
but they caused similar problems to those in this thread with CCE when used with dvd2svcd."
Then maybe that is the problem? Where can i find the "good" one... becouse maybe it's not a avysinth problem at all, but a ... problem...
Just a hint would be appreacheated
{morpheus}
4th January 2002, 14:45
Originally posted by EMonty
Hi,
It would be mabey an idea to check the lucky ones that have no freezing problems as why not them.
You could ask mabey questions like:
1) Is your page file on the same disk
2) CPU speed
3) type of memory modules
4) usage of an CPU
Mabey we will get an answer :rolleyes:
I don't get any problems at all since the last 2 builds.
machine spec as follows:
P4 1.5ghz overclocked to 1.75ghz
768mb pc133 ram
100gb of Hdd
64mb Ati Radeon 8500
WinXP
Pagefile= auto allocate (also tried with no pagefile with no probs)
cpu usage 100% during CCE encoding (using normal/high priority)
CCE rate 1.2 - 1.5
Hope this helps!
Stars556
4th January 2002, 16:28
Hi,
here's one of my older posts. Due to my experiences in the last weeks I don't think that a bad *** of CCE is causing this strange freezes ...
For me the "Virtual Dub" workaround ALWAYS (!!) worked. No freezes in CBR or VBR ...
So I think the real problem is the frameserving part ...
My CCE experiences
since a couple of weeks I also have great trouble with CCE 2.50 when using DVD2SVCD. Most of the time the whole system (Win XP) freezes during the CCE encoding process. The freezes happen at random points during the vaf or / and mpv file creation. They are not bitrate related and don't occur between two individual passes.
I tried running DVD2SVCD (1.0.4 B3) and CCE in WinXP safe mode, so that unnecessary drivers and apps are not started at boot up. But still I'm getting those random freezes.
On the other hand I used the following encoding setup for a couple of weeks.
DVD2AVI --> Avisynth MMX / MPEG2DEC --> Virtual Dub --> Virtual Dub Frame Server --> CCE 2.50
I'm using this funny setup for cutting my PVA/MPEG2 streams "on the fly" during the transcoding process to SVCD (frame accurate cutting for removing commercials).
I've NEVER got any freezes in CCE using this setup !!
So I suggest that there might by a problem with the frame serving DVD2AVI --> Avisynth / MPEG2DEC when using CCE. This (I think) causes the freezes. It seems that Virtual Dub doesn't have these problems.
So I added Virtual Dub in the DVD2SVCD process. I loaded the Avysinth_script_file.avs into Virtual Dub and added the audio as WAVE. Then I started the Virtual Dub Frame Server and opened the referring file in CCE 2.50. I started the encoding process ... and guess what ... NO FREEZES.
I tried this method about 20 times in VBR and CBR ...
In older version of DVD2SVCD I didn't get any freezes at all during the CCE process. So what has been changed ??? Can anyone remember the changes in the frame serving setup ???
Please post your experiences.
Maybe you can also try the Virtual Dub workaround ...
But be aware ... you will get a encoding speed loss of about 20 % (realtime) ...
Stars556
Cyber2010
4th January 2002, 18:17
In older version of DVD2SVCD I didn't get any freezes at all during the CCE process.
What was the last good working? 1.03 B5?
nfl2k2
4th January 2002, 20:24
This is wierd. I downloaded the newest dvd2svcd version and CCE 2.5 crashes. I try the edited avisynth file and it still crashes. Then I go back in time and install dvd2svcd v. 1.0.2 build 12 (from september) and CCE crashes again. I make it past the vaf part but when I does the mpv it crashes. It usually just shuts down my whole computer. my specs-
1 gighz Athlon
640mb sdram pc133
20 gig HD space left
Windows 2000
Radeon ultra 64mb ddr
CCE rate w/ old avisynth = .7 / .8
w/ new avisynth = .4
xrv1138
4th January 2002, 23:41
tried to drop max average bitrate
cce still froze at 49% 4 pass vbr
attempt on piii machine also froze at 49%
both machines have totally separate architecture and setup
trying a new encode on athlon of max bitrate dropped even further
trying new encode on piii with 1 pass vbr, q=5, ts on
nfl2k2
5th January 2002, 06:43
Hey I just used 1.0.4 build 2 with 1 pass VBR Qfactor of 1 with make vaf file checked. I sat here watching Leno and Conan o Brian checking the progress of dvd2svcd and it worked. I have two bin files and am burning them with fireburer onto tdk 80min cdr's. the quality isn't so bad for a 1 pass either.
mnordlin
5th January 2002, 07:26
I'm very happy to report that Solution 1 did solve my problem, and made it possible to convert a DVD successfully. For the first time actually, after having tried on various motherboards (VIA KT133A, KT266A and ALi Magick1, all with Athlon/Athlon XP). Have tried SDRAM and DDRAM memories. Tried all versions of DVD2SVCD, also.
Actually I did manage once to get past the CCE transcoding on a Celeron notebook, but eventually (after more than 24 hours) ran out of disk space.
Solution 1 actually works, but with reduced transcoding speed; from more-than-realtime to about 0,61.
Hope my findings can help you develop your outstanding tool!:)
itimpi
5th January 2002, 07:44
I have just tried reverting to DVD2SVCD 1.0.3 build 5 which I was sure I had had working in the past and I still got the freeze. Also as a check I tried with CCE with and without the crack to remove the logo - again in both cases the freeze occurred at the same point.
What was obvious in the above tests was the big change in the CCE speed factor - it wa 0.77 in the above tests while using 1.0.5 build 4 I am getting more like 0.47. What has caused this slowdown?
I am going to dig out the DVD's I have successfully converted in the past and retry them in case there is still a link to exactly which DVD one is trying to convert.
I am beginning to wonder, though. if some extraneous factor is at work and it is some other software upgrade that has caused the problem. Possibilities that occur to me of recent software upgrades are Direct/X 8.1 and Media Player 7.1 (it is always easy to blame Microsoft :) in my experience).
dvd2svcd
5th January 2002, 16:51
@nfl2k2: Listen to me! CCE only freezes in multipass not CBR and not 1 pass VBR. So DON'T try it, if you want to test it use Multipas, ok. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I really hate your bloody post on VCDHelp!
dvd2svcd
5th January 2002, 17:20
Hi, Here's a new build, also with fixed memor, but a higher fixed memory, you should get a little better performance, besides this build is from Edwins latest source. So to all who still have freezes in the middle of a CCE MULTIPASS 3 or more Encoding, try this and please report back to me no matter if it works or not, thanks :)
xrv1138
5th January 2002, 23:33
downloaded the zip
starting a run now will post back
and just read the post by nfl2k2 on vcdhelp
possibly the rudest post i have ever read
clearly a post written by by a selfish person with no vision whatsoever and who obviously has no time to help others
dvd2svcd - i know that you know there are a large number of us who are very appreciative of your time and expertise
let us know if there are any further tests you require at any time
for this new avisynth test is there a particular page file size that you would like us to test with
i am using 512 ddr ram and 128k fixed page file
should i increase this for this run ?
frankt.
6th January 2002, 00:18
Hi all,
actually I think there are 2 problems with cce:
1)
In the first pass when the *.vaf file is created, sometimes the frame rate goes up to 2x-3x Realtime - IMHO this is a problem with avisynth.
I tried it many times with an 480x576 pix. sized avi - no problem at all with vaf-file creation. When I use *.avs cce goes crazy... :mad:
Trying to encode with that vaf-file results in an error-message encoded in the mpeg-stream. (saying something about an error in avisynth.dll) I didn't looked at this further - my main problem are the freezes in cce!
2)
In the second/third pass cce freezes (at least on my machine) when it begins a new pass. I've testetd it with an 2000 frames divx-avi instead of avs-files. It always results in freezes at 2000 or 4000 frames. IMHO this is a bug within cce. VBR setting are min.500 / avg.1900 / max.2500. When i use a higher max.bitrate (3000-4000) - it doesn't freeze. :confused:
Currently I'm "playing" with cce-patcher and trying a matrix for low bitrate encoding to see if it can solve the "freeze"-problem.
Greets from Germany :D
Frank
nfl2k2
6th January 2002, 02:23
xrv1138: I asked for an older version of dvd2svcd to see if that would solve the problem. I don't even know how you can call someone selfish if you don't even know them personally let alone a message board. and I'm sorry I can't help out with testing of the program because I have high school, work and basketball all during the week. Video encoding is not one of my top priorities.
itimpi
6th January 2002, 09:34
Just completed a run with your new avisynth.dll file and I still got a CCE freeze at 32% (doing 3 pass VBR). The speed was dramatically improved as you stated should be expected (from .47 to .72 in my case).
dvd2svcd
6th January 2002, 15:27
@itimpi
What is your:
- CPU
- Motherboard Manufactor and Modelnumber
- Size of physical Memory
- Size of pagefile
- Bitrates (min, max and avg.)
Coentjo
6th January 2002, 16:51
I've tried the new modifed avisynth on 2 different PC's. CCE unfortunately still freezes after creating the .vaf file.
equilibrium
6th January 2002, 17:56
Out of the box I found that the latest version of dvd2svcd froze in cce after about 6.5 hours on vbr 3 or 5. I suceeded with 2 passes which it did in about 6hr 10 mins.
I came to the forum and got the latest version of avisynth.dll that was posted on the first page of this thread and ran it on a 3 passes scenario last night. I found it froze after 2hrs 24mins which was considerably worse that the unmodified version.
I have now got the version posted on page 3 and will try that now.
for the record my setup is:
Windows XP Pro
amd athlon 1Ghz
pc133 ram 1Gb
page file 1024Mb
Abit KT7A Raid motherboard
geforce 2 pro 64mb ddr
plenty of disk space
itimpi
6th January 2002, 18:11
As requested here are my machine details:
Athlon 1.2GHz (266 Mhz front side bus)
MSI K7-Turbo (revision 3.0) motherboard
1Gb PC133 memory (2 x 512Mb)
1.5GB Page file
ATI Radeon VE graphics card
OS is W2K + SP2
Bit rates for last run were what I think are default with DVD2SCVD 1.0.5 build 4 (300 Min, 2250 Max, 1600 Min Ave, 2130 Max Ave). I also had the box to adjust the audio rate if required ticked.
I could try amending any details of the above if you want me to (e.g. remove some memory, change page file size, etc) or change bit rates. It would be nice to pin the problem down to a particular hardware/software combination.
I also have a Pentium 3 600MHz notebook with 256Mb of memory that I could try the same run on if you want - I tend to avoid using that machine as everything takes too long. From a software point of view the notebook is also running W2K with the same revision levels of all software as far as I know. I have saved all the files, so could do a crash recovery and restart at the video encoding - either using the previously created .vaf file, or recreateing it as required. Let me know if that run will give you any useful information.
SteveV
6th January 2002, 20:46
I am trying the new avisynth.dll now the first one did the job but very slow .380 the second avisynth.dll is doing it at .608 dunno if this one will finish the job but i will find out in 15 to 20 hours.
Just wanted to let you guys know the speed.
Specs:
TBird 1000
512mb SDram (2x256 oem)
512mb swapfile on a different partition
win2k+sp2 and some hotfixes (sp3 thingies)
119GB hd space
GF2 32mb
mrfixit
7th January 2002, 00:21
@dvd2svcd I don't know if this has anything to dod with the freezing problem. But last night I was setting up my other computer with your program when I found have CCE version 2.50.01.00 and version 2.50.01.01. Could this have anything to do with it??
nfl2k2
7th January 2002, 00:47
It seems that since I bumped my RAM up to 640mb that CCE 2.5 has stopped encoding. When I had 128mb it worked great but since mid December when I added an extra 512mb it hasn't worked. Maybe if I take out the two 256mb sticks tonight and leave the 128 it will work? I'll try it tonight on 4 pass and tell you if it worked when i get home from school.
xrv1138
7th January 2002, 05:38
last 2 tests (on long movie pal gladiator, still dont have problems for normal length movies touch wood):
piii800@940
256 ram
windows managed pagefile
windows xp
all cd size set to 790
default for rest of bitrate:
max 2250
min 300
min ave unticked
max ave 2130
adjust audio for maxbiterate ticked
latest avisynth dll
failed between pass 2 and 3 of 4 pass vbr
athlon 1.4
512 ddr
fixed pagefile of 128
windows xp
all cd size set to 790
avisynth dll original from bundle
max 2300
min 300
min ave unticked
max ave 1950
adjust audio for maxbiterate ticked
froze between pass 3 and 4 (which is a change from 2 and 3)
same athlon machine
max 2500 (only using one audio track at 224)
min 0
min ave ticked 1600
max ave 2100
adjust audio ticked
froze at 87% (not at a pass junction) - thought this one might make it ;-)
i guess i can get a 3 pass vbr out of it for this movie but that doesnt help much
as has been stated a lot elsewhere
adjusting the bitrates does seem to overcome problems
are there any other settings you would like me to try ?
dvd2svcd
7th January 2002, 10:59
After intensive investigation I have come to suspect my internal ripping routine as being the culprit. So, if you have been using internal routines to rip the dvd, I suggest that you try using vStrip instead and try again.
SteveV
7th January 2002, 19:28
Ok Godfather part 2 is done in almost 24 hours , 0.641 was the final speed i used the second updated avisynth.dll subs didnt work though bitmaps were empty.
[edited]Hmm i used smartripper for The Godfather 1 and 2 and didnt have a problem with the first and second updated avysynth file.[edited]
gldblade
7th January 2002, 21:09
I'm using Smartripper, but CCE still crashes for me.
dvd2svcd
7th January 2002, 21:27
Well, I know for sure that there's issues with Smartripper, so please try vStrip, just to satisfy my curiosity.
TheeeGod 3
7th January 2002, 21:27
im having problems with crashing too. cce workedfine the first two times but now as soon as dvd2svcd opens it up it says "closing program". then a message pops up saying cce has caused an error. i have no clue what to do. im running win xp pro on 900 athlon, 384 ram and 45 gb. i dles the .dll file and put it in my system directory. i tried both vbr abd cbr and no success. this is the error that comes up:
"AppName: cctsp.exe AppVer: 2.50.1. ModName: unknown ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00000066"
i saw post about guys running XP and experiencing the same problem. i uninstalled everything and then reinstalled it back on. no luck. what have you guys done to fix the problem? im open to any suggestion or help. thnx for your time
*edit*
i started the whole process again and CCE closed when it was time to encode and restarted back up to "transcode". its running right now and theres about 3+hours left. does this mean that CCE only crashes on my system when its encoding and not "transcoding"? by the way what the hell is the difference between "trans" and "en" -coding? suggestions...comments...help....whateva
Coentjo
7th January 2002, 22:24
I'll try the vstrip thing tomorrow. All test I did until now were smartripper or dvd2svcd internal based rips.
equilibrium
8th January 2002, 12:29
Originally posted by equilibrium
Out of the box I found that the latest version of dvd2svcd froze in cce after about 6.5 hours on vbr 3 or 5. I suceeded with 2 passes which it did in about 6hr 10 mins.
I came to the forum and got the latest version of avisynth.dll that was posted on the first page of this thread and ran it on a 3 passes scenario last night. I found it froze after 2hrs 24mins which was considerably worse that the unmodified version.
I have now got the version posted on page 3 and will try that now.
for the record my setup is:
Windows XP Pro
amd athlon 1Ghz
pc133 ram 1Gb
page file 1024Mb
Abit KT7A Raid motherboard
geforce 2 pro 64mb ddr
plenty of disk space
I have read dvd2svds latest comments about using internal routines to rip. However I found that when I used the new avisynth.dll posted on page 3 of this thread everything worked for the first time.
I suceeded in creating Bridget Jones Diary with 3 passes. The main encoding part successfully ran in 8.5 hours without freezing. I was still using the original vob's and inf file that I had ripped with internal routines.
Something I thought I would point out. The ppl who have provide spec details all seem to have AMD processors and I read something on another site about issues with avisynth.dll and AMD processors in relation to the audio part of the encoding could this be related ?
I am going to try a longer film today and see how it goes.
Another thing to point out is that with all 3 versions of the dll (the one in build 4 and the 2 in this thread) I did not notice a differnce in speed I always got 0.535.
The only other thing I changed for the successfull run apart from using the latest .dll was to 'remove the banner from cce' if you get my drift (rhymes with track );)
dvd2svcd
8th January 2002, 12:32
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