View Full Version : Guide: Decrypt Blu-Ray Movies with a PS3 WITHOUT keys
QuePaso
17th April 2007, 19:14
Guys, i will elaborate with pics and much more later, but i thought you guys would like the gist of it so you can get started. Here is how i do it.
1. Install SAK (Swiss Army Knife) to the PS3 OtherOS and boot into it. I use the network connection and do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser and transfer the ISO over the network. You can hook up a FAT32 hard drive and get the ISO that way as well.
2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3.
3. Install Nero Premium v7.8.5.0 and once installed, go to StartSmart, Extras Tab, make sure its in Advanced Mode and then choose Mount ISO image. Mount the ISO of the blu-ray movie you have. It is VERY important to use nero, as Daemon Tools DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY FOR THIS METHOD.
4. Install AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6. Once installed, go to windows explorer and check the mounted ISO drive to see if the AACS Directory has been renamed to SLY!. If so, you should be good.
5. In AnyDVD HD, right click on the icon in the taskbar, and you will see: Rip Video HD-DVD / Blu-Ray to Hard disk. Choose that, make sure the drive being chosen is the one with the Nero mounted Blu-Ray image and let it rip. I suggest not doing much while it works its magic.
5a. Now, a lot of people talked about how AnyDVD HD has errors with blu-ray, but that is because they fixed the ripping in the latest version ONLY if you use the special rip tool. If you go to windows explorer and copy over the files to your hard drive, THEY WILL ERROR. This is the ONLY way to do it properly, and i will show you how to verify next.
6. Once complete, you should have the full blu-ray in your hard drive and ready to go. As a test, close AnyDVD HD and try to play any of the .m2ts's on the image mounted, THEY WILL NOT WORK. But the ones off of the hard drive you decrypted will. Now, you need to check for errors. Most blu-ray movies come with MPEG2 Trailers which are ~100-300 megs a piece for other blu-ray movies. Copy 2-3 of them into a empty directory. You will need to check these for errors. When AnyDVD HD errors, it happens on every file, so you want to check at least 2-3 files for errors and make sure they are ok using MPEG2Repair.
7. MPEG2Repair WILL NOT accept Decrypted .m2ts files. You need to convert them to .ts. The program i use is called: m2tstots. It is command line based and lightening fast. Once you convert those files you have, go ahead and run them through MPEG2 repair, 1 by 1. You will have a stream error, dont worry about that, its because ALL blu-rays give that error. Once done, the only thing you want to look for is errors in the video/audio areas. I did this with 4 different movies i had no keys for and they worked perfectly.
If you guys have any issues i will be back later to help, but that is how ive SUCCESSFULLY decrypted blu-ray movies WITHOUT ANY ERRORS using no keys at all!!! Credit goes out my VERY good friend mart who without his help getting started, none of this would have been possible. Enjoy!
Doom9
17th April 2007, 19:30
Haven't I seen a similar procedure (just with AnyDVD and BackupBluRay swapped out) before ;)
It'll get interesting once the whole thing can be done on the PS3 proper.. wouldn't it be hilarous if Sony's trojan horse into the HD market would turn out to be a trojan horse for Sony and enable the millions of PS3 owners to back up their Blu-ray discs.
FoxDisc
17th April 2007, 19:32
install AnyDVD .... that is how ive SUCCESSFULLY decrypted blu-ray movies WITHOUT ANY ERRORS using no keys at all!!!
When you installed AnyDVD it would have provided the required keys. If it's AACS encrypted, and almost all theatrical releases are, you need keys to decrypt. I must admit, I am surprised that this works, as I wouldn't expect an iso image to have the Volume ID.
arnezami
17th April 2007, 19:33
This is amazing! What is most interesting is that apparently a BD ISO (created by the PS3) also holds the Volume ID somehow and that AnyDVD/Nero is able to retrieve it. Thats incredible.
So far it has been impossible to retrieve the Volume ID through the official (and seemingly blocked) AACS-Auth way. This seems to completely bypass that. So its really interesting to see what is going on here.
Great work !! :D
arnezami
PS. I guess technically its possible AnyDVD contains tons of VUKs but I doubt it...
FoxDisc
17th April 2007, 19:43
PS. I guess technically its possible AnyDVD contains tons of VUKs but I doubt it...
Or even tons of Volume IDs, but I doubt that too. It would be interesting to look at the iso to see if the Volume ID is there and to know whether AnyDVD is communicating to a database that might include it.
QuePaso
17th April 2007, 19:47
Guys, AnyDVD HD isnt allowed to talk to the internet on my pc, so it is not going to a outside network. Believe me, i was as shocked as anyone when i got to the point of it working. Also, AACSKeys doesnt work because when you use AnyDVD HD, it renames the AACS directory!! Also, i forgot to mention, when you load up the ISO and have AnyDVD HD running, you can load up PDVD and watch the movie 0 problems. Works greats. But when you try to use Windvd 8, it never works. I wanted to use WinDVD 8 and grab the keys, but it just doesnt play. More food for thought!
arnezami
17th April 2007, 19:57
I'm starting to think AnyDVD have found a general way of reading some (lead-in?) area on the disc that works with all drives and contains some (obfuscated?) volume id. And they might also have done this for HD DVDs but there I really wouldn't know how they would have pulled this off because (without our "hack") the xbox hd drive doesn't seem to give up lead-in area secrets...
Hats off to AnyDVD ;). And what role does Nero play here?
Much food for thought and testing/sniffing indeed.
zeroprobe
17th April 2007, 20:11
Im gonna try Nat Geo : Relentless Enemies as no key has been published and its quite a new release.
FoxDisc
17th April 2007, 20:13
Hats off to AnyDVD ;). And what role does Nero play here?
And what role does SAK play? It seems that SAK would have to read the lead-in to put that in the iso, if it's really there, but you'd expect access to the lead-in to be blocked.
This is very interesting.
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 21:13
it worxx!! I test it with DVD DECRYPTER , read the Hole Bluray disc as an iso to HD ,
then mount with NERO image drive.
installed new any dvd version!
M2ts workx fine in VLC !
And sometimes for testing purposes i burned many CRYPTED BLURAY Disc´s!!!
READ iso with DVDDECRYPTER and burned directly to BD DISC:
these disc workxx fine too!!!
arnezami
17th April 2007, 21:35
I think that this would mean that if we can figure out how the Volume ID is extracted from/stored inside the ISO and given the fact that the PS3 can read these parts of the orignal disc (since the ISO was created on the PS3) it should be possible to create a tool that would retrieve the Volume ID on the PS3 itself (and thus do direct playback on the PS3 :)). Which would make an awful lot of people very happy...
@mrazzido: i'm assuming you're doing all this with a PC BD drive right?
[edit]
The question is: will this work for HD DVD too...
Can somebody try to make an ISO of an HD DVD disc and try the same thing?
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 21:44
UPDATE :
Test it with new version of Daemon Tools too , mount the image workx!!
Watch my video ehhe CLICK DL (http://rapidshare.com/files/26529061/5757_Screen_Stream.avi)
yeah i read the Hole iso with a BD PC drive...
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 21:48
this post was wrong i test something yet..
FoxDisc
17th April 2007, 21:59
if we can figure out how the Volume ID is extracted from/stored inside the ISO
Questions:
1) Is the Volume ID really stored in the ISO?
2) If the Volume ID is stored in the ISO, then is it in the lead in area, or somewhere else? I was under the impression that you couldn't write the lead in area to prevent bit-for-bit copying. Even if an ISO has a simulated lead in area, how can a burned copy be decrypted by AnyDVD if the burned copy does not have a burned lead-in with the Volume ID. Could the Volume ID be stored in multiple places on a disc (seems unlikely ..... hmmmm)
3) If the Volume ID is not stored in the ISO, then where is AnyDVD getting it? Could there be a database inside AnyDVD (assuming no network access as reported)?
The internal database concept, as unlikely at it originally seemed, now strikes me as most consistent with the ability to decrypt a burned encrypted copy. I presume these burned encrypted copies won't play with regular software like WinDVD/PowerDVD. @mrazzido - would you test that?
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 22:00
hey!!!
i burned a BD-RE with some ( 3 GB )crypted files , with the original AACS FOLDER
i used nero!!
Anydvd works here to!!
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:03
hey!!!
i burned a BD-RE with some ( 3 GB )crypted files , with the original AACS FOLDER
i used nero!!
Anydvd works here to!!
So only files right? No ISO burn?
We need more precise details... (3 GB only??)
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 22:06
yeah thats right!! no iso burn !!
AACS Folder
+ BDMV folder ( inclusive all files )
+ CERTIFICATE Folder
in the stream folder i delete the main movie because it a DUAL LAYER Movie ) disc is yet only 3gb. ( trailers... some extras ).
...
i made a new test yet disc is burning :-)
I made a Mixed Disc some Crypted files fron movie a and some files from movie b . and the aacs folder from one movie .
looking what happend later . ehhe.
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:08
yeah thats right!! no iso burn !!
AACS Folder
+ BDMV folder ( inclusive all files )
+ CERTIFICATE Folder
in the stream folder i delete the main movie because it a DUAL LAYER Movie ) disc is yet only 3gb. ( trailers... some extras ).
That certainly indicates some kind of database of VUKs/VIDs. Because the Volume ID isn't present in the files.
OR some HUUUUUGE breaktrough... (very very unlikely)
Starting to put my hat on again. :( This is starting to look like "plain" VUK based decryption.
arnezami
@QuePaso and @mrazzido: what movies are we talking about here: common or relatively new/rare ones?
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 22:15
i test it with 3 crypted movies.
CASINO ROYAL
KINGDOM OF THE HEAVEN
FULL METAL JACKET
i read some times ago the hole images to HD´s , for testing.
some crypted iso i burned on BD-R for testing ( with aacskeys ) to get volume id ( from a BD-R / RE) we talked about but it was all 000000000....
the only thing is Anydvd must have yet a Databse with some keys inside ?? all keys posted sometimes in the Threads.
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:18
i test it with 3 crypted movies.
CASINO ROYAL
KINGDOM OF THE HEAVEN
FULL METAL JACKET
i read some times ago the hole images to HD´s , for testing.
some crypted iso i burned on BD-R for testing ( with aacskeys ) to get volume id ( from a BD-R / RE) we talked about but it was all 000000000....
the only thing is Anydvd must have yet a Databse with some keys inside ?? all keys posted sometimes in the Threads.
Yeah. This seems to based on a database of VUKs. Possibly taken from this site...
Maybe AnyDVD uses this as a "fallback position" in case their Device/Host Private Keys don't work (anymore). Which is why they can claim old (known) discs will keep working of the HRL gets updated but thats just because of the database assembled here. Bah...
Its still a valid solution for PS3 owner though. Although we should make sure our own (open source/free) decrypters work on the PS3 properly (based on VUKs).
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 22:22
the mixed disc doesnt work ,
only the files from movie a works ( aacs folder is there )
the files from movie B doesn work.
--
i didn have yet a movie here where the key is not postet on forum yet. i try to get 1 new movie.!
FoxDisc
17th April 2007, 22:25
This is starting to look like "plain" VUK based decryption.
Yes, that's what it smells like to me. We need someone with a burned copy of a newly released movie and an older-than-the-movie copy of AnyDVD that has never been updated to see if it can decrypt without access to a lead-in. Perhaps AnyDVD uses both methods - use the known processing key and read the VID if it's there, and use a VUK/VID database if it's not.
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:28
Just for the record: QuePaso did great work here. :) No matter how this pans out.
For a moment I did sort of had a (naive?) hope though that a commercial product would be able to achieve something really remarkable...
QuePaso
17th April 2007, 22:28
Flyboys and Scooby Doo blu-ray were done by me, there are NO KEYS for either of these anywhere on the net, trust me, ive been looking LOL. Its why i SERIOUSLY doubt it has a database of keys. And thank you for the compliment =) Me and Mart1001 (my partner in crime) really went at it guns blazing to confirm this was going on!
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 22:29
i played something with win hex changed some bytes in
CPSUnit00001.cci
Unit_Key_RO...
the orignal sha-1 hash is gone.
i made a small image with nero.
anydvd regonize this disc as a unknown bluray disc.
ok they have a small DB
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:35
Flyboys and Scooby Doo blu-ray were done by me, there are NO KEYS for either of these anywhere on the net, trust me, ive been looking LOL. Its why i SERIOUSLY doubt it has a database of keys. And thank you for the compliment =) Me and Mart1001 (my partner in crime) really went at it guns blazing to confirm this was going on!
Hmmm...
These VUKs we clearly don't have yet.
We have to investigate this to make any definative conclusions.
For example: do these titles work if you only burn the files to a disc?
We need to sniff. Does anybody has a BD drive attached via USB? (and thus easely sniffable)
Eeknay
17th April 2007, 22:38
We need to sniff. Does anybody has a BD drive attached via USB? (and thus easely sniffable)
I do. Just lemme know what i need (I don't have any BD blanks though).
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:42
I do.
We need to know what AnyDVD does when dercypting a disc. And whether it (always) retrieves the Volume ID the offcial way. So you have to sniff the USB port.
Look here for more Volume ID sniffing info : http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866 You would have to use the USB sniffer.
FoxDisc
17th April 2007, 22:44
Hmmm...
These VUKs we clearly don't have yet.
If you are right that they do both ProcessingKey/VID decryption and use a backup VUK/VID database, then whenever anyone decrypts a new disc with AnyDVD, perhaps it adds the new keys to its database and later phones home with all the new keys it knows about. That would very quickly build a big, up to date, database.
Even if it doesn't phone home, an internal database would reproduce a lot of what is seen here by individual users of AnyDVD. Once a disc was inserted by that user, AnyDVD would know the VUK secret for later use.
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:46
If you are right that they do both ProcessingKey/VID decryption and use a backup VUK/VID database, then whenever anyone decrypts a new disc with AnyDVD, perhaps it adds the new keys to its database and later phones home with all the new keys it knows about. That would very quickly build a big, up to date, database.
That certainly makes sense. But we don't know that for sure. But if they did find something more special I just want to know ;).
arnezami
17th April 2007, 22:48
i played something with win hex changed some bytes in
CPSUnit00001.cci
Unit_Key_RO...
the orignal sha-1 hash is gone.
i made a small image with nero.
anydvd regonize this disc as a unknown bluray disc.
ok they have a small DB
So it won't work right? What "changes" did you make? It may have trouble with the changed cci file which maybe invalidates the AACS cert. But I doubt AndDVD cares much about those certs...
I guess this pretty much confirms they work with a database of VUKs/VIDs identified by hashes.
mrazzido
17th April 2007, 22:59
i change only one byte inside the files.
theeMule
17th April 2007, 23:05
If we want to sniff communication with a blu-ray drive, it might be worth trying to share the ps3 blu-ray drive to a PC via iSCSI (iSCSI server could be run within linux on the ps3, iSCSI clients available for windows and linux on the PC side). Then I'm not sure how easy it is to unwrap them, but the packets containing the SCSI commands could be sniffed with a network sniffer like ethereal.
On second thought, the fact that iSCSI wraps everything in scsi commands may break the usefulness of this. Perhaps this is why Daemon Tools doesn't work (Daemon Tools presents a virtual SCSI drive, does anyone know if nero's disc mounting emulates an IDE drive?)
Eeknay
17th April 2007, 23:14
I've got my log, looking in WinHex, what exactly am I looking for/trying to confirm?
arnezami
18th April 2007, 04:33
I've got my log, looking in WinHex, what exactly am I looking for/trying to confirm?
Look if the Volume ID is sniffed the normal way.
Searching for "00000000: 00 22 00 00" should reveal the response from the drive including the Volume ID (look if its in there). Be careful not to post too much (so no more than the Volume ID itself).
There should also be other responses like with "00000000: 00 72" and "00000000: 00 52". Don't post this stuff at all. But look if its in there.
These are AACS-Auth type responses and indicate the "official ways" are being used.
It is possible AnyDVD (when for some reason the Volume ID isn't found) switches to some kind of other mode where it simply accesses its (local) VUK database. In order to see this somehow you could burn (just) the files from an original disc to a recordable and see how AnyDVD handles that (by sniffing).
Personally (when given only the files from a original disc) I don't see how AnyDVD could decrypt the disc without actually using a VUK/VID from a (local) database. Since the Volume ID isn't on the burned disc and the Volume ID is really needed (and is not guessable) to calculate the VUK there really is no other way.
arnezami
zeroprobe
18th April 2007, 08:12
What would be the unique identifier of the disc if anydvd was using a database
awhitehead
18th April 2007, 08:52
What would be the unique identifier of the disc if anydvd was using a database
If they are using the database from doom9, then they most likely they use sha1 of AACS\CPSUnit00001.cci, and then try with each of the published keys to see what generates a valid decryption. That is what BackupBluRay uses.
Otherwise, probably AACS\Unit_Key_RO.inf, since it's known to be unique per disk.
Just guessing, but if I were building a database of VUKs using pre-published keys, that is what I'd use. Potentially I'd update my database with SHA1 of AACS\Unit_Key_RO.inf each time I found a match based on SHA1 of AACS\CPSUnit00001.cci since AACS\CPSUnit00001.cci is not unique.
jokin
18th April 2007, 09:53
anyone have a link for m2tstots? I googled it and found nothing helpful. Thank You
SuperGoof
18th April 2007, 11:40
We need someone with a burned copy of a newly released movie and an older-than-the-movie copy of AnyDVD that has never been updated to see if it can decrypt without access to a lead-in. Perhaps AnyDVD uses both methods - use the known processing key and read the VID if it's there, and use a VUK/VID database if it's not.
Did just that:
1) Disabled AnyDVD 6.1.3.6.
2) Created an 'encrypted' ISO of 'Happy Feet' with Roxio. 'Happy Feet' is a recent release and it is also very small - just 14GB.
3) Mounted the ISO with VirtualCloneDrive.
4) Checked that disc and .m2ts files cannot be played when AnyDVD is disabled and can be played when AnyDVD is enabled. Playback is somewhat jerky though for some reason (Probably the problem is VirtualCloneDrive: playback from disc or from ripped files on HD is fine).
5) Disabled the network.
6) Uninstalled AnyDVD 6.1.3.6.
7) Installed AnyDVD 6.1.3.0.
8) Confirmed that mounted 'Happy Feet' ISO cannot be played anymore with AnyDVD enabled. 'AACS' folder stays as well.
9) Inserted original disc - can play .m2ts files with AnyDVD 6.1.3.0 enabled. AnyDVD 6.1.3.0 decrypts it fine and 'AACS' folder is renamed to 'SLY!'.
10) Checked again mounted 'Happy Feet' ISO - still cannot be played. (I thought maybe it would update key database with keys from original movie).
11) Reinstalled AnyDVD 6.1.3.6.
12) Checked that it works as before.
13) Realised that maybe AnyDVD 6.1.3.0 did not have a feature to decrypt mounted images yet - will check it this evening by doing the same experiment with '5th Element'.
But even if AnyDVD uses key database, as it seems, I think it is very smart move by Slysoft. This way they will keep their promise that AnyDVD will not be affected when current host certificates are revoked (i.e. will still support titles released so far). Also, I do not think Doom9 is the only source of keys for them. They probably send keys to Slysoft as AnyDVD discovers them standard 'AACS way' if keys are not in the local database yet, and then every new version of AnyDVD comes with updated key database.
Fahzuu
18th April 2007, 13:21
For a moment I did sort of had a (naive?) hope though that a commercial product would be able to achieve something really remarkable...
Well they did use host certificates long before anyone here did, didn't they?
And they were using the processing key before it showed up on doom9, didn't they?
And they are removing BD region codes, which still nobody has achieved here yet, aren't they?
So if you say, that all this isn't remarkable, then nothing, that has been done here was either, right?
I did for my part try to look behind the curtains of region coding in BD myself and eventually gave up. There is a thread somewhere here, that gave me a start, but didn't get me nowhere.
Is there anybody still working on this? I sure would like to participate...
dmz01
18th April 2007, 15:50
anyone have a link for m2tstots? I googled it and found nothing helpful. Thank You
You can always write your own. The m2ts file is just a bunch of 192 byte packets. All you do is remove the first 4 bytes of each packet and write the 188 byte packets back to the disk into a new TS file.
bob0r
18th April 2007, 16:07
Ill let you guys know sooner or later if this method works with the S.W.A.T. .iso, this key is not known.
I have to wait for my North Korean guy to get online, so he can test an altered version of anydvd, good thing they dont have software lawls there :devil: :rolleyes:
PepsiLee2001
18th April 2007, 16:35
I will borrow a BD Rewriter without AACS to test it tomorrow.
The rewriter is a sample and can't decrypt any AACS disc before.
bob0r
18th April 2007, 17:03
Good news:
S.W.A.T. Bluray .iso will decrypt using nero+anydvd.
As key is not known on this forum:
1: they find keys themselfs for their database
2: anydvd has its own method of decrypting :)
FoxDisc
18th April 2007, 17:03
even if AnyDVD uses key database, as it seems, I think it is very smart move by Slysoft. This way they will keep their promise that AnyDVD will not be affected when current host certificates are revoked (i.e. will still support titles released so far).
I agree - if the Host Key they are using is revoked, the backup database will keep the AnyDVD software working for almost all titles while they try to respond.
It will be interesting to see if the AACSLA actually revokes any Host Keys. It does no good for old discs, since the keys are all released. It angers customers who suddenly can't play what played last week without the hassle of a software update. It does little against those who know the HK can be bypasssed via the Xbox HD-DVD drive hacks. Finally, you'd think they would want to minimize using new methods/keys to read/play old discs (where all keys are known) as that prior knowledge of the keys and answers makes it easier to track down what the revised/hardened software is doing.
bob0r
18th April 2007, 17:06
Hmm, can you find out the key of an encrypted .iso with this method?
Or does it remain hidden?
enantiomer
18th April 2007, 17:33
anyone have a link for m2tstots? I googled it and found nothing helpful. Thank You
It was posted on April 16 to Usenet: a.b.hdtv
I just spotted it myself today. I haven't tested it, but the C++ source is provided. Always a good thing.
FoxDisc
18th April 2007, 17:34
Good news:
S.W.A.T. Bluray .iso will decrypt using nero+anydvd.
As key is not known on this forum:
1: they find keys themselfs for their database
2: anydvd has its own method of decrypting :)
It's no surprise that they find keys themselves (although I would not call it their "own method" - it's the AACS method based on AACS authorized software player keys).
I don't think anyone was really suggesting that they get VUK or VID keys directly from posts here. It's been known for a long time (from USB sniffing) that they go through the AACS defined drive/host authentication process. That gave them the VID and the only other thing they needed for decryption would be the one known processing key or a device key from a software player.
The question was whether they had some totally new, amazing, and unauthorized cryptographic method to play ISO mounted encrypted copies.
FoxDisc
18th April 2007, 17:39
Hmm, can you find out the key of an encrypted .iso with this method?
The short answer is no.
If AnyDVD can play the encrypted .iso, then it has the key in its internal database, so you could, in theory, get it out (although I suspect it will be encrypted to make that hard). If it won't play it, then the key is not in the internal database and there's no way to get it, unless you can break the AACS AES-based encryption (which no one is even close to doing.)
bob0r
18th April 2007, 17:49
Thanks for the answers!
Now S.W.A.T. can waste 20GB on my HDD, just because i am an addicted collector of "firsties" :eek:
(Man, what a crap movie it is :p)
Pelican9
18th April 2007, 19:53
Now S.W.A.T. can waste 20GB on my HDD, just because i am an addicted collector of "firsties" :eek:
Right click, Delete :-)
xt5
18th April 2007, 23:13
If we want to sniff communication with a blu-ray drive, it might be worth trying to share the ps3 blu-ray drive to a PC via iSCSI (iSCSI server could be run within linux on the ps3, iSCSI clients available for windows and linux on the PC side). Then I'm not sure how easy it is to unwrap them, but the packets containing the SCSI commands could be sniffed with a network sniffer like ethereal.
On second thought, the fact that iSCSI wraps everything in scsi commands may break the usefulness of this. Perhaps this is why Daemon Tools doesn't work (Daemon Tools presents a virtual SCSI drive, does anyone know if nero's disc mounting emulates an IDE drive?)
is there any server/client of iSCSI freely available for Windows?
blutach
18th April 2007, 23:56
Ill let you guys know sooner or later if this method works with the S.W.A.T. .iso, this key is not known.
I have to wait for my North Korean guy to get online, so he can test an altered version of anydvd, good thing they dont have software lawls there :devil: :rolleyes:
We have them in this forum. Please confine your post to within forum rules. Specifically, references to warez and software cracks are prohibited.
Regards
jh87
19th April 2007, 02:35
If you have linux already installed on your ps3, it become much easy to do the decrypt. You can just dump the iso image to a external drive. Then connect this drive to you pc. Mount the image with the newest edition of Daemon Tools. (yes, you don't need the Nero). Run the AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6 to rip the movie to you hard drive. Done.
People had been trying to do this before, but it was a no go with the old AnyDVD HD. It was once thought the dumped iso from the ps3 might not contained all the needed data for decryption.
Now the AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6 does all the tricks.
jokin
19th April 2007, 02:44
is there any server/client of iSCSI freely available for Windows?
Microsoft iSCSi initiator. (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=12cb3c1a-15d6-4585-b385-befd1319f825&displaylang=en)
pooley22
19th April 2007, 04:57
Oh yes it works!! :)
Iv done a few 2day and all worked great but im getting this error when trying to do Enemy of the State
Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label:ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE
Media is AACS protected!
Failed to retrieve AGID!
ERROR processing Blu-Ray disc!
has anyone els had this error? if so is there anyway round it.
Thx!!
bob0r
19th April 2007, 07:41
@blutach
Not a working key is in the keys thread.
As for refering to warez, its hard for me, what it warez for you people, if freedom for us people.
Hard choises..... solution: i just STFU! :cool:
blutach
19th April 2007, 08:39
I don't care bob0r. I don't wish to see posts referring to people working with cracked software.
That is the same as someone copying a DVD he doesn't own.
You call it freedom - I call it theft. Slysoft also has copyright to protect.
This forum stands for fair use, not piracy. Reverse engineering software he may not own because he is in North Korea is not my idea of Fair Use.
Think carefully before you post in future please.
Regards
PepsiLee2001
19th April 2007, 10:09
I have a blu-ray rewriter that is a sample and NOT support AACS, so I can't use it to decrypt any blu-ray disc with AACS before.
AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6 trial version
Blu-ray rewriter : Pioneer BDR-101AVA (firmware 0.84) without AACS support.
VGA : nVidia 7600GS without HDCP
Player : PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra
1. Disable ALL NIC
2. Install AnyDVD HD
3. reboot
4. Testing blu-ray discs
AACS protection BDMV : work fine
Summary for drive M: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.6)
PIONEER BD-RWBDR-101A 0.84 A05/09/13PIONEER
Drive (Hardware) Region: free
Media is a Blu-Ray disc.
Total size: 7236352 sectors (14133 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label: 98748746_VOLUME_ID
Media is AACS protected!
Removed AACS copy protection!
AACS protection BDAV : FAIL to play with PowerDVD 7.3
Summary for drive M: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.6)
PIONEER BD-RWBDR-101A 0.84 A05/09/13PIONEER
Drive (Hardware) Region: free
Media is a Blu-Ray disc.
Total size: 11826176 sectors (23098 MBytes)
uncertainty
20th April 2007, 02:22
It was posted on April 16 to Usenet: a.b.hdtv
I just spotted it myself today. I haven't tested it, but the C++ source is provided. Always a good thing.
m2tstots worked like a charm on the 3 m2ts files I tried.
bourke
20th April 2007, 02:52
So if I grab a disc that has no 'publicly released' keys and try and decrypt it with AnyDVD-HD it will tell us whether they are doing something funky with the Volume IDs?
jokin
20th April 2007, 02:55
So if I grab a disc that has no 'publicly released' keys and try and decrypt it with AnyDVD-HD it will tell us whether they are doing something funky with the Volume IDs?
Not completely. I did "Into The BLue" and it worked. They prolly just build thir own db using the known methods. It not like they cant affor a PC drive and the movies to make their db.
awhitehead
20th April 2007, 06:06
Not completely. I did "Into The BLue" and it worked. They prolly just build thir own db using the known methods. It not like they cant affor a PC drive and the movies to make their db.
Note that in order for this to be scientific, you need to get a new release, image it to file without AnyDVD HD running while the disk in the in the drive, remove the original disk, and then see if AnyDVD HD will decrypt it.
Also, this should be done with network connection turned off, and then turned on to see if AnyDVD doesn't decrypt without making a network connection.
My personal uneducated guess (I don't use nor own AnyDVD HD, but this is how I'd do it, if I were writing something similar) is that for unknown disks AnyDVD HD connects to a website (maybe over SSL), requesting either a filename consisting of a sha1 hash of AACS\Unit_Key_RO.inf or re-downloading the database in it's entirety.
Potentially it helps to check if any file modifications dates/times change before and after each attempt.
HyperHacker
20th April 2007, 06:58
Heck, do the copy without AnyDVD even installed, just in case. Disable network, install it, see if you can copy the copy. If not, enable network and try again.
jokin
20th April 2007, 10:18
I have a BluRay that got released recently and has no key.
So I will uninstall AnyDVD. Use the PS3 to make the ISO. Disable network. Install AnyDVD. See if it will decrypt it. If not, I will enable Network and try again.
That sound good?
bob0r
20th April 2007, 16:58
@blutach
I have a registered copy of anydvd now.
Thanks for making me feel bad about using a program 1x, i will never ever use again anyway!
Alrighty then, lets get busy pirating movies.... i mean pirating movies..... i mean pirating movies.
(joke copyleft: http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail169.html)
qtx999
20th April 2007, 23:22
anyone have a link for m2tstots? I googled it and found nothing helpful. Thank You
look on alt binaries HDTV ..it is up there right now and REAL small (like 300 bytes)
qtx999
21st April 2007, 00:00
Not completely. I did "Into The BLue" and it worked. They prolly just build thir own db using the known methods. It not like they cant affor a PC drive and the movies to make their db.
worked with enemy of the state also (US)
blutach
21st April 2007, 01:03
@blutach
I have a registered copy of anydvd now.
Thanks for making me feel bad about using a program 1x, i will never ever use again anyway!
Alrighty then, lets get busy pirating movies.... i mean pirating movies..... i mean pirating movies.
(joke copyleft: http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail169.html)
bob0r
I know you think you are making a joke, but what you just said is in direct contravention of rule 6 - joke or not.
This forum is not about pirating movies under any circumstances. I suggest you read rule 6 and the various announcements (including my announcement at the top of this forum) carefully.
Making a post like that can only bring us into disrepute. For that, I am unfortunately going to have to issue a R6 strike.
Please be very careful about what you post in future.
EDIT: You should read Doom9's disclaimer (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/disclaimer.htm) very very carefully and ensure you understand the following perfectly:
Piracy and Copyright
The maintainer of this site does not condone or endorse video piracy in any way. The function of this site is to simply provide information for people to backup their own purchased DVDs to VCD/SVCD/DVD±R/W/DivX/MPEG-4 (more suitable formats for archival purposes). In most countries copyright laws allow the original purchaser/owner to legally make one personal backup/copy for their own personal use. The owner would like to stress that it is illegal to backup/copy a movie that you do not own (i.e.. personally purchased). It is also illegal to backup/copy your own movie and give copies away. The legality of copying a movie for a friend (if he owns that particular movie) may also depend on your country's' legislation concerning that matter.
Regards
bob0r
21st April 2007, 04:12
http://x264.nl/slap.gif
jokin
23rd April 2007, 13:11
Ok,
1) I uninstalled AnyDVD.
2) Copied the ISO off the PS3 I made of my "District B13"
3) Disabled my network.
4) Installed AnyDVD 6.1.3.6
5) Rebooted
6) Got this on the ISO mounted in daemon tools.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8900/anydvd1ed3.jpg
7) Enabled network
8) Still can't decrypt. Must be a database.
Jokin
mofo69
23rd April 2007, 16:09
same here.
dumped image with YDL.
transferred to ext HDD then to internal HDD.
mounted with latest Daemon-Tools.
Anydvd was running all the time and also being online,
nevertheless the decrypting didn't work.
I have a Euro PS3 with FW1.5 btw
EDIT: stupid me. 6.1.3.6 wasn't installed. what is the autoupdate good for? ;) nope, I am to blame. works fine now.
pooley22
23rd April 2007, 18:10
Ok,
1) I uninstalled AnyDVD.
2) Copied the ISO off the PS3 I made of my "District B13"
3) Disabled my network.
4) Installed AnyDVD 6.1.3.6
5) Rebooted
6) Got this on the ISO mounted in daemon tools.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8900/anydvd1ed3.jpg
7) Enabled network
8) Still can't decrypt. Must be a database.
Jokin
I too get this error message when trying with Enemy of the State
Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label:ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE
Media is AACS protected!
Failed to retrieve AGID!
ERROR processing Blu-Ray disc!
I'm thinking it may be a database also!
QuePaso
27th April 2007, 08:52
It is definitely a Database! Got the FIRST disc out of many, many discs so far, that did not work with AnyDVD HD. Enter The Dragon blu-ray. It got released April 17 so it is very new. I hope the anydvd guys get the database updated quickly LOL.
arnezami
27th April 2007, 09:08
It is definitely a Database! Got the FIRST disc out of many, many discs so far, that did not work with AnyDVD HD. Enter The Dragon blu-ray. It got released April 17 so it is very new. I hope the anydvd guys get the database updated quickly LOL.
Could you mount an ISO of that disc (or copy the AACS directory to the root dir of a HDD) and run aacskeys. Just to be sure its not a MKB v2. aacskeys should be able to get a verified Media Key out of an ISO/AACS files.
Thanks,
arnezami
QuePaso
27th April 2007, 11:41
Could you mount an ISO of that disc (or copy the AACS directory to the root dir of a HDD) and run aacskeys. Just to be sure its not a MKB v2. aacskeys should be able to get a verified Media Key out of an ISO/AACS files.
Thanks,
arnezami
E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>a i n
aacskeys v0.2.5
Current path: E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 0C26D49503AC34FBEE3113D8668CC714
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
All AGIDs in use, aborting.
Thats what i get
arnezami
27th April 2007, 11:48
E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>a i n
aacskeys v0.2.5
Current path: E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 0C26D49503AC34FBEE3113D8668CC714
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
All AGIDs in use, aborting.
Thats what i get
Well. From that I can see this still MKB v1 (the first umask/uv is still 17/00000001 which is where our current Processing Key is located).
Although I should change aacskeys so it doesn't abort so early since it can decrypt the C-value into a valid Media Key.
Anyway. Just for confirmation: could you check if the MKB file starts with there values:
1000000C0004100300000001
(using a hex editor)
The 01 is the MKB version number.
Regards,
arnezami
QuePaso
27th April 2007, 12:04
Well. From that I can see this still MKB v1 (the first umask/uv is still 17/00000001 which is where our current Processing Key is located).
Although I should change aacskeys so it doesn't abort so early since it can decrypt the C-value into a valid Media Key.
Anyway. Just for confirmation: could you check if the MKB file starts with there values:
1000000C0004100300000001
(using a hex editor)
The 01 is the MKB version number.
Regards,
arnezami
Yes, it does.
arnezami
27th April 2007, 12:15
Yes, it does.
Ok. Thanks.
Btw: if anyone finds a disc that contains a MKB starting with something different than the above then ring some bells. Since thats what we are looking for ;).
qtx999
27th April 2007, 14:17
I too get this error message when trying with Enemy of the State
Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label:ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE
Media is AACS protected!
Failed to retrieve AGID!
ERROR processing Blu-Ray disc!
I'm thinking it may be a database also!
if it is the US version, it worked for me
qtx999
27th April 2007, 14:18
This method worked for my copy of total recall, stir of echoes
but *not* the black crowes concert disc
pooley22
30th April 2007, 21:45
Could you mount an ISO of that disc (or copy the AACS directory to the root dir of a HDD) and run aacskeys. Just to be sure its not a MKB v2. aacskeys should be able to get a verified Media Key out of an ISO/AACS files.
Thanks,
arnezami
C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>aacskeys k v n
aacskeys v0.2.5
Current path: C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
Corresponding uv: 00000001
Decrypted C-value: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C35
Media key: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C34
Encrypted verification data: 374455068FE766D0850B19BDCE9CE758
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEFC532D476127F575E
Volume ID: 00000000000000000000000000000000
Volume Unique Key: 79C7B58E0A3CEDA849E585B93DD8FD09
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 680B64F68D128CECA055A1EDE5EB9FC1FF04039D
Encrypted Unit Key 1: 508B45D05EDF75B4A3F5E9CB222652A0
Decrypted Unit Key 1: B8FC9AAD9C8894C25747551CF67B7623
C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>
This is what i get when i run aacskeys!
arnezami
30th April 2007, 21:58
C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>aacskeys k v n
aacskeys v0.2.5
Current path: C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
Corresponding uv: 00000001
Decrypted C-value: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C35
Media key: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C34
Encrypted verification data: 374455068FE766D0850B19BDCE9CE758
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEFC532D476127F575E
Volume ID: 00000000000000000000000000000000
Volume Unique Key: 79C7B58E0A3CEDA849E585B93DD8FD09
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 680B64F68D128CECA055A1EDE5EB9FC1FF04039D
Encrypted Unit Key 1: 508B45D05EDF75B4A3F5E9CB222652A0
Decrypted Unit Key 1: B8FC9AAD9C8894C25747551CF67B7623
C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>
This is what i get when i run aacskeys!
Ehm. Which movie is this? Is thi the same movie that didn't work with AnyDVD (like QuePaso's movie)? Please give more info. Is this a mounted ISO?
Anyway. On this disc there is (most likely) a MKB v1 because the current found Device Key/Processing Key can decrypt the Media Key (note that the "Decrypted verification data" is alright).
pooley22
1st May 2007, 14:13
Ehm. Which movie is this? Is thi the same movie that didn't work with AnyDVD (like QuePaso's movie)? Please give more info. Is this a mounted ISO?
Anyway. On this disc there is (most likely) a MKB v1 because the current found Device Key/Processing Key can decrypt the Media Key (note that the "Decrypted verification data" is alright).
Sorry for the lack of info :)
The film is Speed (EUR), it is a mounted iso that didnt work with AnyDVD. So i thought i'd try and get the keys with aacskeys and thats what i got. The keys didnt work so im assuming thats because it didnt find the VID it just comes back as all zeros. Is there anyway to get the VID so i could mabe decrypt it with the new aacskeys v0.2.5
Thx!
arnezami
1st May 2007, 20:25
Sorry for the lack of info :)
The film is Speed (EUR), it is a mounted iso that didnt work with AnyDVD. So i thought i'd try and get the keys with aacskeys and thats what i got. The keys didnt work so im assuming thats because it didnt find the VID it just comes back as all zeros. Is there anyway to get the VID so i could mabe decrypt it with the new aacskeys v0.2.5
Thx!
Thanks for the info :).
It does indeed not work because of the lacking Volume ID (all zeroes).
At this moment we have not (yet) found a way to get a Volume ID using a PS3 (drive). Even though we've tried a lot ;). This is most likely caused by the Hyperviser in the PS3. It seems that only a PS3 hack or a PS3 drive hack will enable us to do this. Such a hack btw may become a little easier if we find out how the Volume ID is stored on a BD.
So the only options left for you are:
Wait for someone with a PC-based Bluray drive to post the VUK (or Volume ID) of your movie.
Wait for AnyDVD to update their VUK database to include the VUK.
Wait for someone to find a way to retrieve a Volume ID from a PS3.
So its basicly its a waiting game...
Regards,
arnezami
awhitehead
1st May 2007, 21:09
The film is Speed (EUR), it is a mounted iso that didnt work with AnyDVD. So i thought i'd try and get the keys with aacskeys and thats what i got. The keys didnt work so im assuming thats because it didnt find the VID it just comes back as all zeros. Is there anyway to get the VID so i could mabe decrypt it with the new aacskeys v0.2.5
Thx!
One VUK for Speed got posted today in the apropriate thread by mrazzido.
E035BDAC5FAFCA5F806BF738EF3B82A67BB823BD=SPEED (EUR GER/ENG) |u|mM/Dd/yy| 1-32F4C710802A7F654AEC0A81A50A42DE
This VUK is in DumpHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123111) format.
Maybe it will work for you.
zeroprobe
1st May 2007, 21:18
Do other people get a Volume ID when using aacskeys on there PS3's ???
This is from a UK Casino Royal disc and I am running a 2.6.21 kernel.
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: FF85DB5A97E19F7782037E03CDB679E0
Corresponding uv: 00000001
Decrypted C-value: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563A
Media key: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563B
Encrypted verification data: 67F611DD176C5CCA6D57210B18A065AF
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEF348925EDE51929CD
AGID: FF
Drive certificate (Dcert): ########################################
########################################
########################################
########################################
########################
Drive Nonce (Dn): ########################################
Drive key point (Dv): ########################################
########################################
Drive key signature (Dsig): ########################################
########################################
Host key (Hk): 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Host key signature (Hsig): ########################################
########################################
Drive signature wrong/error
Bus key (BK): ################################
Volume ID: 8E9B0E3CF41FA7DA3A829F604122EA4E
Voluem ID MAC: ################################
Volume Unique Key: B9BC0AF08BCB063AFE901C1573692CCF
Encrypted Unit Key 1: F22BB8CA98BC5E77CC1B7C76895C0F2C
Decrypted Unit Key 1: 54D03F90A14A88292304EE7C80161AAE
arnezami
1st May 2007, 21:21
Do other people get a Volume ID when using aacskeys on there PS3's ???
This is from a UK Casino Royal disc and I am running a 2.6.21 kernel.
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: FF85DB5A97E19F7782037E03CDB679E0
Corresponding uv: 00000001
Decrypted C-value: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563A
Media key: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563B
Encrypted verification data: 67F611DD176C5CCA6D57210B18A065AF
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEF348925EDE51929CD
AGID: FF
Drive certificate (Dcert): ########################################
########################################
########################################
########################################
########################
Drive Nonce (Dn): ########################################
Drive key point (Dv): ########################################
########################################
Drive key signature (Dsig): ########################################
########################################
Host key (Hk): 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Host key point (Hv): 8E9B0E3CF41FA7DA3A829F604122EA4ED5261AA4
7570CE0BB9061A66FAF92C4A7D98ACC171CBF19B
Host key signature (Hsig): ########################################
########################################
Drive signature wrong/error
Bus key (BK): ################################
Volume ID: 8E9B0E3CF41FA7DA3A829F604122EA4E
Voluem ID MAC: ################################
Volume Unique Key: B9BC0AF08BCB063AFE901C1573692CCF
Encrypted Unit Key 1: F22BB8CA98BC5E77CC1B7C76895C0F2C
Decrypted Unit Key 1: 54D03F90A14A88292304EE7C80161AAE
This is not a Volume ID. If AGID if FF then aacskeys should stop/quit. Because pretty much everything after that is garbage. It doesn't stop atm (still have to do proper error handling when I have the time) so that may be confusing.
Btw: you also seem to use an older version of aacskeys (but that doesn't matter much in this case).
arnezami
zeroprobe
1st May 2007, 21:23
just trying find the latest one.
KenD00
1st May 2007, 21:36
One VUK for Speed got posted today in the apropriate thread by mrazzido.
It's not a VUK, its a CPS Unit Key ;).
:rolleyes:
awhitehead
1st May 2007, 23:50
It's not a VUK, its a CPS Unit Key ;).
:rolleyes:
Aaargh. Why can't the HD-DVD and BD folks sit down, have some sushi and beer, sing some Karaoke songs together, and at least come up with consistent terminology between formats? One can dream.
:thanks:
zeroprobe
2nd May 2007, 00:43
here is another one. No keys on the web whatsoever for this bluray.
National Geographic : Relentless Enemies << quite new and rare.
Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label: 51283896_RELENTLESS_ENEMIES
Media is AACS protected!
Removed AACS copy protection!
KenD00
2nd May 2007, 01:34
Uhm, i don't want to sound like a smart ass but a VUK is a VUK for both formats, the difference is CPS Unit Key vs. Title Key :)
:rolleyes:
QuePaso
3rd May 2007, 12:13
Just a FYI. Ive only seen 1 movie that wouldnt decrypt with AnyDVD HD, and it was Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray (Very new release). I upgraded to the newest AnyDVD HD beta and was able to decrypt it flawlessly. Just a heads up for those who have discs with no keys to try the upgrade.
pooley22
3rd May 2007, 14:34
Just a FYI. Ive only seen 1 movie that wouldnt decrypt with AnyDVD HD, and it was Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray (Very new release). I upgraded to the newest AnyDVD HD beta and was able to decrypt it flawlessly. Just a heads up for those who have discs with no keys to try the upgrade.
Thx m8 will give this a try, is the version 6.1.3.6 BETA? cant seem to find it :(
Thx again :)
FoxDisc
3rd May 2007, 16:05
I've only seen 1 movie that wouldnt decrypt with AnyDVD HD, and it was Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray (Very new release). I upgraded to the newest AnyDVD HD beta and was able to decrypt it flawlessly.
It would be interesting to know why it wouldn't decrypt with the old version. AnyDVD is using an internal database of keys, so it's quite possible that an older version would not have the key to a new title in the database, but the database is only a backup to the primary method of decryption that should work for all discs using the now ultrafamous 09 F9 processing key (I've seen it in a poem, a song, an IPv6 version, a domain name and on a T-shirt!) .
If you had an original disc, it should have decrypted with the old version unless the new disc has a Mark II MKB. AFAIK, no one has yet seen a Mark II MKB disc despite announcements that they are coming. If Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray was a Mark II MKB that revoked the 09 F9 key and AnyDVD decrypted it, they are ahead of this forum on decryption.
Anyone have any information on this?
Thx m8 will give this a try, is the version 6.1.3.6 BETA? cant seem to find it :(
Thx again :)
Try the Slysoft forums. Its a sticky. Version 6.1.4.1
JK1974
3rd May 2007, 17:26
AnyDVD is using an internal database of keys, so it's quite possible that an older version would not have the key to a new title in the database, but the database is only a backup to the primary method of decryption that should work for all discs using the now ultrafamous 09 F9 processing key (I've seen it in a poem, a song, an IPv6 version, a domain name and on a T-shirt!) .
If I understand correctly, AnyDVD just has VUKs in it´s database. If the VUK for these new discs is missing, then of course the decryption is not working. When a VUK is inside (like it is said to be in the beta), then it would decode the disc without the processing key as this one is not necessary if you have a VUK.
aacskey simply might not work on new discs as it uses the private host key of PowerDVD for getting the volume ID.
If the AACS-LA indeed revoked something, the information written in this thread would mean that they just revoked the host key of PowerDVD (and for sure WinDVD).
Couldn´t this key just be rediscovered again by USB sniffing like you did before with the older versions of PowerDVD and WinDVD, because the USB communication between the drive and the host is not crypted (and can´t be encrypted in the future, referring to the information here as the HD DVD drive is said not to support bus encryption)?
zeroprobe
3rd May 2007, 17:29
Anyone tried looking for keys popping up within Anydvd? Like put a break in when you mount the image and anydvd does its stuff.
Probably be encrypted keys but worth a shot.
FoxDisc
3rd May 2007, 17:49
If I understand correctly, AnyDVD just has VUKs in it´s database.
I don't think you understand it correctly then. If I understand it correctly, AnyDVD enters into a standard AACS authenticated session with the drive and asks for the volume ID. It then uses the processing key or device keys the same way that any other authorized host software (like WindVD or PowerDVD) uses them to do the decryption. Only if the drive and disc are missing (say an encrypted iso) does it fall back to the database. The db is a good idea for them as it will make it look like their software is working, as long as the software is being used on an old Mark I MKB
If the VUK for these new discs is missing, then of course the decryption is not working.
And my point is that it should work on a Mark I original MKB disc even if the db does not include the VUK.
aacskey simply might not work on new discs as it uses the private host key of PowerDVD for getting the volume ID.
If the AACS-LA indeed revoked something, the information written in this thread would mean that they just revoked the host key of PowerDVD (and for sure WinDVD).
If this disc is revoking the host key (and/or the processing key), then it's the first of the new wave of discs - and that's the question. Is it one of the new discs or not? So far I haven't seen any reliable reports of a new disc.
Couldn´t this key just be rediscovered again by USB sniffing like you did before with the older versions of PowerDVD and WinDVD, because the USB communication between the drive and the host is not crypted (and can´t be encrypted in the future, referring to the information here as the HD DVD drive is said not to support bus encryption)?
The first step is to find out if it is truly a new disc, or just a glitch by AnyDVD.
JK1974
3rd May 2007, 18:04
If I understand it correctly, AnyDVD enters into a standard AACS authenticated session with the drive and asks for the volume ID. It then uses the processing key or device keys the same way that any other authorized host software (like WindVD or PowerDVD) uses them to do the decryption. Only if the drive and disc are missing (say an encrypted iso) does it fall back to the database. The db is a good idea for them as it will make it look like their software is working, as long as the software is being used on an old Mark I MKB
Do you have any link that confirmes that it enters a standard AACS authenticated session? If I remember correctly, it was written in this thread that older AnyDVD versions (6.1.30) do not work with newer HD DVDs (not the lastest ones!), while AnyDVD 6.1.36 does. This would be the proof that they just use a VUK database and not an authentication e.g. with PowerDVD´s private host key (as it was claimed in some threads without any proof) as no revocation as been set up until april 23th.
FoxDisc
3rd May 2007, 19:56
Do you have any link that confirmes that it enters a standard AACS authenticated session?
It's in one of the threads here. The USB sniffing process confirmed it's using the Host Private Key from one of the two WinDVD/PowerDVD host players. [edit] It's here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=965446#post965446)
If I remember correctly, it was written in this thread that older AnyDVD versions (6.1.30) do not work with newer HD DVDs (not the lastest ones!), while AnyDVD 6.1.36 does.
You are reading this thread wrong. This thread started with a claim that AnyDVD could decrypt an iso image. That was either an amazing feat of decryption (because an iso has no volume ID, which you need for decryption) or a sign of a database. It turned out to be a database. The posts saying the old AnyDVD could not decrypt new discs were about the iso decryption, not about decrypting the original disc mounted in a drive.
JK1974
3rd May 2007, 23:44
It's in one of the threads here. The USB sniffing process confirmed it's using the Host Private Key from one of the two WinDVD/PowerDVD host players.
The (only) post of jx6bpm IMHO does not prove that the key is from AnyDVD. Nobody else confirmed it yet. He just claims this, but he also says that AnyDVD and WinDVD are hiding their keys better which could mean that he got the key from PowerDVD itself (like arnezami confirmed). Because there was no clarification yet that WinDVD uses the same private host key, I thought that the keys are still non-public (if AnyDVD is using one at all) or not interesting enough (I would have bet that the WinDVD key is easier to get than the one from PowerDVD) :).
You are reading this thread wrong.
You might be right - I am going to re-read it.
QuePaso
4th May 2007, 08:32
Guys, i have no BD drive. Using a PS3 to rip the image and then load it up with Nero. If i had a BD drive, im positive that Enter The Dragon would have worked fine with AnyDVD. But the key wasnt in the old program, and it is now with the newest version!
FoxDisc
4th May 2007, 15:00
Guys, i have no BD drive. Using a PS3 to rip the image and then load it up with Nero. If i had a BD drive, im positive that Enter The Dragon would have worked fine with AnyDVD. But the key wasnt in the old program, and it is now with the newest version!
And this answers the question - QuePaso was decrypting an image, not a disc. The image has no VID on it, so AnyDVD can't enter into the authenticated session and ask for the VID, then use the processing/device key to decrypt. Instead, it has to rely on the internal database, and the old version of AnyDVD did not include this particular disc in its db, while the new version does.
We've been told that new discs are coming, but so far, none have been seen. I'm starting to wonder if they're having problems with standalones and new MKBs or SKBs.
slysoft has said before that they will not be effected by revocation and that they know of alot of weaknesses in aacs.
I think they know of some unknown method to extract the keys they are keeping secret, and as long as this method is kept secret, aacsla and windvd/powerdvd does not know what to fix.
FoxDisc
5th May 2007, 13:11
slysoft has said before that they will not be effected by revocation and that they know of alot of weaknesses in aacs.
I think they know of some unknown method to extract the keys they are keeping secret, and as long as this method is kept secret, aacsla and windvd/powerdvd does not know what to fix.
Claiming that they will not be affected is a combination of bulls**t bravado and marketing. No one has cryptographically broken AACS encryption, and no one is likely to ever break it. That's the only way they won't be affected.
You can be sure that AACSLA has looked at AnyDVD and revoked its keys. The entire userbase of AnyDVD will have to update AnyDVD for the new discs, that much is certain, so that's an effect right there. The purpose of AnyDVDs belt and suspenders approach with a database backup is to make their software work on the old discs while they react to new discs and keys.
Having said that, however, there's no reason that AnyDVD can't stay ahead of the AACS LA. I'm sure Slysoft has looked closely at the new software player updates. They've probably looked at hardware players too. They could have a dozen sets of keys from hardware players ready to feed out slowly for the next dozen times they get revoked, but they will be revoked.
The bottom line is that the AACSLA can't sell discs without giving out keys to devices (that Slysoft can find) and Slysoft can't sell AnyDVD without disclosing the keys they use (that the AACSLA can find). It's cat and mouse, and my money is on Slysoft - they'll be able to react much faster than the huge monolithic DRM industry.
Fahzuu
5th May 2007, 15:00
Claiming that they will not be affected is a combination of bulls**t bravado and marketing. No one has cryptographically broken AACS encryption, and no one is likely to ever break it. That's the only way they won't be affected.
I agree.
Though I read in some thread at SlySofts where somebody made it clear, that this statement was primarily aimed at those fearing that AnyDVD will completely stop functioning, when host keys get revoked (and therefore AnyDVD could stop working with old discs as well).
So it was simply a fuzzy description of what AnyDVD does with its database :)
And I'm also sure, that AnyDVD will have new keys ready... well, I do hope so anyway.
uncertainty
7th May 2007, 04:39
I have noticed a problem twice now using Anydvd and having the ISO mounted under Nero. Anydvd shows the AACS has been removed but when I choose "Rip video HD-DVD/Bluray to harddisk" it will stop after afew mins and give an error message of "error reading from drive". The ISO plays fine using Powerdvd but yet I cannot back it up. One title stops around 2% and the other at 40%. Wondering if anyone else is having this problem on certain Blu-Ray's?
domerdel
7th May 2007, 07:22
I'm currently backing up a BD movie using PS3 SAK as we speak to an ext fat32 drive. I have some questions.
As of the Firmware update to PS3 (1.60+), now supports AVCHD video files (.m2ts).
After I merge the ISO files into one, extract the m2ts file(s)... can I just split the m2ts files into 3.9gb intervals and play those directly in the PS3 os?
brand1130x
7th May 2007, 07:23
Can someone begin a "State of AACS" thread that explains exactly where we are concerning 1. Revoked keys 2. "Unrevokable" methods including this and the XBOX 360 one. I guess what I'm asking is, with the updates to WinDVD and the revokations appearing anyday now, is decryption stalled?
bourke
7th May 2007, 07:39
The entire userbase of AnyDVD will have to update AnyDVD for the new discs, that much is certain, so that's an effect right there
Not necessarily matey - if they have two (or more) keys already inside AnyDVD (and just happen to have only had to use the first one so far) then they could well be years ahead of the AACS LA already!
Well that's how I (a software architect) would design it - hack multiple hardware/software players and include all of the keys in my software - but only use them one at a time!
Cheers,
Bourkie
domerdel
7th May 2007, 07:49
what is copy /b and how do I use it. need to merge iso files
awhitehead
7th May 2007, 08:01
what is copy /b and how do I use it. need to merge iso files
*blink*
Not sure what this question is doing in this thread, but....
copy /b is a DOS command that permits you to concatenate two (or more) files together in BINARY mode.
On the DOS command prompt:
copy /b file1+file2+file3 newbigfile
As for iso files.... Each .ISO is a self-contained filesystem, with file allocation table, etc.
Are you sure you are not better off extracting files from the ISOs (by, for example, mounting the .ISO files using daemon tools and copying the files off into a directory), and then re-generating the .ISO from scratch using either one of the perty GUI tools, or mkisofs?
awhitehead
7th May 2007, 08:09
I'm currently backing up a BD movie using PS3 SAK as we speak to an ext fat32 drive. I have some questions.
As of the Firmware update to PS3 (1.60+), now supports AVCHD video files (.m2ts).
After I merge the ISO files into one, extract the m2ts file(s)... can I just split the m2ts files into 3.9gb intervals and play those directly in the PS3 os?
*sigh*
While it is not all that clear from your post, I suspect that part of the problem is the fact that you are using FAT32 formatted external drive. FAT32 has a 4 gig filesize limitation. You, honestly, are better off formatting the drive ext2 under Linux (I presume that you are using Linux on the PS3 to backup your BD movie), and then use something like ext2 driver for Windows (http://www.fs-driver.org/) or linux-reader (http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/) to read the disk on your PC.
It is possible that doing so will solve your issue with "3.9gb intervals".
domerdel
7th May 2007, 08:32
*blink*
Not sure what this question is doing in this thread, but....
copy /b is a DOS command that permits you to concatenate two (or more) files together in BINARY mode.
On the DOS command prompt:
copy /b file1+file2+file3 newbigfile
As for iso files.... Each .ISO is a self-contained filesystem, with file allocation table, etc.
Are you sure you are not better off extracting files from the ISOs (by, for example, mounting the .ISO files using daemon tools and copying the files off into a directory), and then re-generating the .ISO from scratch using either one of the perty GUI tools, or mkisofs?
This IS the PS3 decrypt thread, right? original post gives a "copy /b" in the tutorial, thus why I'm asking it. I will try that dos command prompt. thank you for your response.
domerdel
7th May 2007, 08:37
*sigh*
While it is not all that clear from your post, I suspect that part of the problem is the fact that you are using FAT32 formatted external drive. FAT32 has a 4 gig filesize limitation. You, honestly, are better off formatting the drive ext2 under Linux (I presume that you are using Linux on the PS3 to backup your BD movie), and then use something like ext2 driver for Windows (http://www.fs-driver.org/) or linux-reader (http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/) to read the disk on your PC.
It is possible that doing so will solve your issue with "3.9gb intervals".
I'm not sure why this isn't a clear post considering it's following a PS3 Blu-ray decript thread, but I'll try and give you more information.
PS3 only supports Fat32 within it's OS. As of firmware update 1.60, now supports video format AVCHD (m2ts files). Since I want to avoid booting into linux which still doesnt fully support HD content because of the hypervision security on the RSX chip, I want to use the PS3 OS as my video player. and in finding that I can use Swiss Army Knife, I'm creating Backups of Blu-rays using my PS3 as the BD ripper.
The merged Iso file will be created by coping the split 3.5gb intervals from my external drive onto my windows that supports NTFS...
Now, I would agree that Fat32 is crap, but since I'm keeping everything native, I'll need it to play my video content which is why I need to properly find a good method of splitting my m2ts
zeroprobe
7th May 2007, 11:09
I'm not sure why this isn't a clear post considering it's following a PS3 Blu-ray decript thread, but I'll try and give you more information.
PS3 only supports Fat32 within it's OS. As of firmware update 1.60, now supports video format AVCHD (m2ts files). Since I want to avoid booting into linux which still doesnt fully support HD content because of the hypervision security on the RSX chip, I want to use the PS3 OS as my video player. and in finding that I can use Swiss Army Knife, I'm creating Backups of Blu-rays using my PS3 as the BD ripper.
The merged Iso file will be created by coping the split 3.5gb intervals from my external drive onto my windows that supports NTFS...
Now, I would agree that Fat32 is crap, but since I'm keeping everything native, I'll need it to play my video content which is why I need to properly find a good method of splitting my m2ts
The fat32 method and copy /b is by far the easiest way as none of the other options work for me on the ps3 sak.
FoxDisc
7th May 2007, 20:13
The entire userbase of AnyDVD will have to update AnyDVD for the new discs, that much is certain, so that's an effect right there
Not necessarily matey - if they have two (or more) keys already inside AnyDVD (and just happen to have only had to use the first one so far) then they could well be years ahead of the AACS LA already!
Well that's how I (a software architect) would design it - hack multiple hardware/software players and include all of the keys in my software - but only use them one at a time!
Cheers,
Bourkie
That would be a serious software design mistake. Before the AACSLA releases a new MKB, they do lots of testing. One of the first things they will test is whether AnyDVD can decrypt it. If Slysoft puts a second set of decryption keys in current versions of AnyDVD, then the LA will know that now and the next MKB can revoke the current set and the second set. The best strategy from Slysoft's point of view is to use only one set of keys and make the LA go through the full movie release cycle before using another set of keys.
domerdel
8th May 2007, 04:24
Here's the steps that I took:
1. Ran SAK, ripped BD movie to Ext HDD
2. Merged ISO onto PC - NTFS
3. Mounted ISO
4. Used AnyDVD HD to rip
5. Took largest m2TS file, and split it in 3.5/gb pieces (10 total) using HDBDSplitGUI
6. Put renamed 00001.m2ts - 00010.m2ts back onto ext fat32 HDD
7. connected to PS3, selected Video > USB hit triangle "select all"
8. First file plays awesome!!! sound excellent (hit triangle - info - said Dolby Digital)!!
9. Part 5 of the m2ts splits said "Data is corrupt" while others were
Interesting item with Step 5... I had actually tried a generic file splitter (File Splitter 1.31) before I used HDBDSplitGUI, and it gave me 3 unsupported data files that wouldn't play, and another one that was just plain corrupt. I'm wondering if it's "split sensitive" as far as the M2TS files go.
I had split the files 3800MB sections, giving me 10. I'm going to try and do 3700MB, see if it comes up any different.
running FW 1.70
awhitehead
8th May 2007, 07:45
I'm not sure why this isn't a clear post considering it's following a PS3 Blu-ray decript thread, but I'll try and give you more information.
PS3 only supports Fat32 within it's OS. As of firmware update 1.60, now supports video format AVCHD (m2ts files). Since I want to avoid booting into linux which still doesnt fully support HD content because of the hypervision security on the RSX chip, I want to use the PS3 OS as my video player. and in finding that I can use Swiss Army Knife, I'm creating Backups of Blu-rays using my PS3 as the BD ripper.
I see. I apologize, I am not familiar with SAK, nor with OtherOS.
However, while I don't own a PS3 myself, over the weekend, while at friend's house, we managed to successfully use the procedure documented here (http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/breaking-news-worlds-first-ps3-blu-ray-movie-dumped-40441.html) to dump a BD movie off of his PS3.
We used an external, ext2 formatted hard drive under YDL, and dd'ed the ISO to it raw, then moved the drive over, and used SysInternals ext2 reader to copy the ISO over onto an XP box, where Nero and AnyDVD HD took care of the rest.
I guess there is more then one way to skin a cat.
ps3hacker
8th May 2007, 08:28
Open up HDBDSplitGUI and split .m2ts file into up to 3.9 gb chunks.
Or if you used SAK they are already split 4 u
Open up xport and demux all .m2ts file parts,one by one
Open up TMPGEnc Plus and mux all .m2v and mpa together one by one into Program stream. You should end up with 4 or 5 .mpg files all playable on ps3
This will only work on mpeg 2 streams though
http://forums.maxconsole.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=14855 here is HDBDSplitGUI
Or use a file server and transfer .m2ts avc and mpeg2 files over to your ps3 WITHOUT splitting. If you run into any problems playing an avc encoded m2ts file,rename it .mp4 and it will play fine. You can transfer a 25 gig file over and it will play
domerdel
8th May 2007, 08:40
just for the record. SAK copies and splits the ENTIRE BD disc... thus grabbing m2ts, and some. If that were the case, i'd just try and play those, but i dont think it will work.
thanks for your help i will give it a shot.
JK1974
8th May 2007, 11:40
Another way:
1. Use e.g. gparted to create a free ext3 partition on an external HD.
2. Use SAK to copy the BD to the ext3 partition.
3. Install ext3fsd from http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net on your XP, start the Ext2Mgr.exe to assign a drive letter to your ext3 partition.
4. Mount the ISO with Daemon Tools/Nero Image drive and enjoy :)
domerdel
8th May 2007, 16:01
the HDBDsplitGUI program helped split the files better. however, part0005.m2ts was corrupt. I kept them as m2ts files. even the PS3 saw the dolby digital codec within the container.
of all 10 files that were split. 9 of them worked flawlessly (picture and sound).
going to try and re-split...
UPDATE: Re-split movie to slightly smaller parts (3700 MB instead of 3800MB) all M2TS raw files working. Some even give an AVC icon then I hit Triangle > Information... even picks up AC3 Dolby Digital Codec... all files played off an external Fat32 drive.
ps3hacker
9th May 2007, 04:49
I see no resason to split anything unless you are set on using sak. My process
1:Copy movie to an external usb hard drive in linux on ps3(many tutorials on this)
2:Go to pc and install ext2fs and Anydvd (Mentioned earlier in this thread)
3:Plug usb hard drive into pc and mount .iso file with nero or dameons tools
4:Decrypt movie
5:Install Red Kawas File Server
6:Go back to ps3 xmb and use the ps3'2 internet browser to "download" the main movie file (.m2ts) to your ps3
The setup for the file server is pretty straight forward, just follow the directions it gives you. This works for avc and mpeg2 but not vc-1. Just trying to be a little helpful
domerdel
9th May 2007, 07:46
I see no resason to split anything unless you are set on using sak. My process PS3 only reads FAt32
1:Copy movie to an external usb hard drive in linux on ps3(many tutorials on this)Creating an extra partition is something I gave thought to just for the ripping process... still debating this.
2:Go to pc and install ext2fs and Anydvd (Mentioned earlier in this thread)
3:Plug usb hard drive into pc and mount .iso file with nero or dameons tools
4:Decrypt movie
5:Install Red Kawas File Server
6:Go back to ps3 xmb and use the ps3'2 internet browser to "download" the main movie file (.m2ts) to your ps3 Did I mention Fat32? My file is 35 gigs. Fat32 limitation is 4GB which is my whole purpose of splitting files... The setup for the file server is pretty straight forward, just follow the directions it gives you. This works for avc and mpeg2 but not vc-1. Just trying to be a little helpful
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All in all, I really appreciate you taking the time to give me more options which is why I come to these forums... There's more than one way to skin a Cat right? :) I've got an external terabyte drive that I need to keep majority Fat32 partition for the time being. I'm waiting for two things
1. Either Sony or Hacker gets permission past the hypervision (RSX), which would allow linux to take advantage of hardware, so that I could play ANY codec I want, and also say goodbye to gawd awful Fat32.
2. Sony will start releasing firmware updates to support AVI/MKV containers... I've got about 200 gigs worth of DivX (Some even in HD).
Edit: thanks for the heads up blutach
blutach
9th May 2007, 08:24
Until then, I'm going through my net flix Blu-ray subscriptions and ripping them, cutting them up, and keeping the raw files on my tera byte drive( which will quickly fill up). Thanks again for your post.
Read rule 6 please. You are new, but it should be obvious we do not support illegal copying of rented DVDs.
Regards
ps3hacker
9th May 2007, 11:22
I do understand the ps3 can only read fat32 partitions through the xmb. But when running linux, it can read/write ext2/3 filesystems. This does not have a 4g file limit. You can dump the WHOLE movie, and not to parts. No you cannot play them on your ext2/3 usb hard drive though xmb, but you can disconnect the hard drive, plug it in to your pc, and use a file server to transfer to the internal hard drive of your ps3. 35 gig will transfer fine, just take a long time. I know now you want to keep them on your usb hard drivet o play on ps3 and this method will not work, but it is good for people who upgraded their ps3's internal hard drive.
domerdel
9th May 2007, 16:22
right, but, playback in linux is my issue which is why i'm not doing it until there's resources beyond hypervision... the fat32 method i have is a substitute for now.
awhitehead
9th May 2007, 19:05
right, but, playback in linux is my issue which is why i'm not doing it until there's resources beyond hypervision... the fat32 method i have is a substitute for now.
In spite of your explanations, I am still very confused why you are insisting that playback in Linux is your issue.
You only use Linux to image the original BD disc, and transfer it to a PC for decryption. You don't even need to do it using an external USB hard drive, since you can mount a SMB (windows file sharing) share from your Windows system on your PS3 running Linux, and dd directly onto the network mounted share. This eliminates the steps that require dealing with SAK, partitioning the image into 3.9 gig chunks, and re-assembling the chunks when you moved the disc over to the PC.
(Heck, if you know the CPS key for the BD disc you are backing up, you can export the BD-drive's mount point over Samba to your windows system, and decrypt over the network using DumpHD in one step. Yes, it requires knowing how to configure smb.conf, and a little bit of Linux skill, but it can be very convinient)
Once you decrypted the media on a PC, then you can use re-mastering tools to cut up the mpeg2 or VC1 or AVC stream into apropriate sized (ie 3.9 gig in size, so it would fit on a FAT32 filesystem), and either copy it onto your 1TB external fat32 formatted drive (Shouldn't you be concerned with possiblity of drive failure, btw?) directly on the PC, or stream it from the local network using, for example, Red Kawas File Server.
So as far as I can tell, playback under Linux is not even coming up anywhere.
However, it's your PS3, it's your discs and your time, and I am not forcing my opinion onto you in any way.
(BTW, I suspect that only a few of your original chunks of video played because the software you used to cut the original video stream up did not cut it up at the stream frame boundary, corrupting the stream. Cutting the stream up intelligently would require the software that is actually capable of understanding the container format. It might be a question better answered in container forums, though)
domerdel
9th May 2007, 19:20
Yes I gather that some are suggesting ext2/3 as storage and not playback. Just FYI, sak will rip to an ext2/3 drive... and as mentioned in a response (in red above i believe) it is still something i'm considering to do.
The way I would do it, would problably be a 100-200 gig
ext2/3 partition (depending if i want to store original iso's). Then taking it back to my PC for decryption. What i'm NOT wanting to do is store any of this content on the PS3 HDD.. someone mentioned using Kawa to transfer 35 gigs, but i'm not sure how that' s possible if PS3 is on a Fat32 system.
ps3hacker
9th May 2007, 21:31
someone mentioned using Kawa to transfer 35 gigs, but i'm not sure how that' s possible if PS3 is on a Fat32 system
The ps3 does not run on fat32, it just can only read fat32. It has its own custom filesystem.
domerdel
9th May 2007, 22:07
Hmm, I need confirmation on that. Not sure I buy "custom file system", but I'll leave that topic for a different forum. thank you for your input.
qtx999
19th May 2007, 18:04
Anybody know why some lionsgate titles, when remuxed and split, the first file in the list (XXX1.mpg, XXX2.mpg etc etc) does not have an audio codec stream (ONLY IN XMB). That file plays fine using classic media player under windows...it's just in the XMB, the very first file is "slient"...
(CRANK, HAPPILY NEVER AFTER are 2 examples) TIA
sega32x
19th May 2007, 20:41
You only use Linux to image the original BD disc, and transfer it to a PC for decryption. You don't even need to do it using an external USB hard drive, since you can mount a SMB (windows file sharing) share from your Windows system on your PS3 running Linux, and dd directly onto the network mounted share. This eliminates the steps that require dealing with SAK, partitioning the image into 3.9 gig chunks, and re-assembling the chunks when you moved the disc over to the PC.
For what its worth, SAK can dump to network shares too (though its slow, I'm a fan of ext3 myself however!).
And for what its worth, the PS3's internal filesystem is called the Cell File System (yeah, I know!)
markrb
20th May 2007, 05:57
I have tried to look through this entire thread to make sure, but I may have missed it.
I keep reading about playing back on the PS3, but what if I wanted to play back the image on my PC? Is this possible with this method from a local to the PC drive using PowerDVD 7.3 and Daemon tools?
I use a HTPC for all my Video playback and prefer it for my HD-DVD's currently. I would like to expand this to Blue-Ray as well if possible.
Thanks,
Mark
mofo69
20th May 2007, 06:21
I have tried to look through this entire thread to make sure, but I may have missed it.
I keep reading about playing back on the PS3, but what if I wanted to play back the image on my PC? Is this possible with this method from a local to the PC drive using PowerDVD 7.3 and Daemon tools?
I use a HTPC for all my Video playback and prefer it for my HD-DVD's currently. I would like to expand this to Blue-Ray as well if possible.
Thanks,
Mark
yes, this is possible.
you simply dump an image of the BR disc with your ps3 to a external hdd formated ext2fs. connect the external hdd to your pc use Ext2IFS_1_10c to access the drive and mount with latest daemon-tools the image. anydvd is your friend then. you can either only read or make a back up to your ntfs formated hdd.
eousphoros
22nd May 2007, 22:48
I read thru the thread and didn't see mention of this, and I am not at home so I can't test this. The one frustrating thing with this solution is it involves windows and paid-for solutions. Wouldn't the following work since DumpHD uses a key database as well?
1) dd if=/dev/cdrom of=bob.iso (whatever the bdrom on the ps3 is)
2) Move to linux box (or hell even on the ps3 itself)
3) mount -o loop -t udf bob.iso /mnt/cdrom
4) java -jar DumpHD.jar /mnt/cdrom /backup/bob/
?? or am I completely missing something?
Humpa
23rd May 2007, 03:14
I read thru the thread and didn't see mention of this, and I am not at home so I can't test this. The one frustrating thing with this solution is it involves windows and paid-for solutions. Wouldn't the following work since DumpHD uses a key database as well?
1) dd if=/dev/cdrom of=bob.iso (whatever the bdrom on the ps3 is)
2) Move to linux box (or hell even on the ps3 itself)
3) mount -o loop -t udf bob.iso /mnt/cdrom
4) java -jar DumpHD.jar /mnt/cdrom /backup/bob/
?? or am I completely missing something?Yes, but only if the key has already been provided and you have updated your cfg file. I would much rather use dumphd than anydvd - I often get an unplayable movie after using anydvd - that has never happened yet when I've been able to use dumphd. You do have to keep the cfg key file updated yourself (no big deal), but as you can see from the Blu-Ray VUK thread, it is rather lacking. :(
MY blu-ray drive is the PS3, so I am limited. But with my hddvd drive I can simply get the keys myself, so I never have to use anydvd for hddvd.
plonk420
23rd May 2007, 21:35
copying over a 10/100mbit network seems to go at ~2gb an hour :/
i don't really have an external i can format, at least ATM...
eousphoros
23rd May 2007, 23:32
Looks like the ps3 has a gigabit interface.. if you upgraded your networking setup a bit it would probably go alot faster
localhost ~ # ethtool eth0
Settings for eth0:
Supported ports: [ TP ]
Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Speed: 1000Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Port: Twisted Pair
PHYAD: 0
Transceiver: internal
Auto-negotiation: on
Link detected: yes
plonk420
24th May 2007, 01:54
stupid nonvideo related question: i can just a crossover cable running from the PS3 straight to another computer, right?
eousphoros
24th May 2007, 02:22
Yeh it will but since neither one is likely to be running a dhcp server you will have to configure an ip address for the boxes
ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.250
ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.2 netmask 255.255.255.250
the ping 192.168.100.2 to test
eousphoros
24th May 2007, 03:50
BTW, has anyone played with the 2.6.21 or 2.6.22 kernels on the ps3 yet? I have the 2.6.21-r2 kernel from gentoo compiling right now and was curious what peoples experiences with the two aforementioned kernels has been like.
HanSooloo
24th May 2007, 17:34
BTW, has anyone played with the 2.6.21 or 2.6.22 kernels on the ps3 yet? I have the 2.6.21-r2 kernel from gentoo compiling right now and was curious what peoples experiences with the two aforementioned kernels has been like.
I have been using the 2.6.22-rc1 kernel on my Gentoo install for the last few days, and it has been holding out pretty good.
No crashes, or hangs or any other weird behavior.
I got this kernel via "garlicbread"s overlay intructions on Gentoo's PS3 forums.
This overlay also provides full UDF2.5 support, so you do not need to patch in the UDF2.5 for 2.6 Kernel module from Sourceforge.
Hope this helps :-)
Humpa
24th May 2007, 17:58
I have been using the 2.6.22-rc1 kernel on my Gentoo install for the last few days, and it has been holding out pretty good.
No crashes, or hangs or any other weird behavior.
I got this kernel via "garlicbread"s overlay intructions on Gentoo's PS3 forums.
This overlay also provides full UDF2.5 support, so you do not need to patch in the UDF2.5 for 2.6 Kernel module from Sourceforge.
Hope this helps :-)I haven't been following the linux threads for the last couple of weeks.
Do you have NTSF support? I'm still using ext3 for my ext hdd, and it is getting old - windows doesn't like it much, I keep having to reassign the drive letter and whatnot. Plus it is a little slow.
eousphoros
24th May 2007, 20:55
I have been using the 2.6.22-rc1 kernel on my Gentoo install for the last few days, and it has been holding out pretty good.
No crashes, or hangs or any other weird behavior.
I got this kernel via "garlicbread"s overlay intructions on Gentoo's PS3 forums.
This overlay also provides full UDF2.5 support, so you do not need to patch in the UDF2.5 for 2.6 Kernel module from Sourceforge.
Hope this helps :-)
Would you be willing to give a walk thru (and maybe a copy of your .config) on how you got it working? I can get it compiled and installed but when I try to boot it up the ps3 locks up. (I am using garlicbreads overlay to)
jacksparrow
25th May 2007, 22:12
You promised to elaborate with pics later, we are into page 7 now, where are the pics? :thanks:
Guys, i will elaborate with pics and much more later, but i thought you guys would like the gist of it so you can get started. Here is how i do it.
1. Install SAK (Swiss Army Knife) to the PS3 OtherOS and boot into it. I use the network connection and do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser and transfer the ISO over the network. You can hook up a FAT32 hard drive and get the ISO that way as well.
2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3.
3. Install Nero Premium v7.8.5.0 and once installed, go to StartSmart, Extras Tab, make sure its in Advanced Mode and then choose Mount ISO image. Mount the ISO of the blu-ray movie you have. It is VERY important to use nero, as Daemon Tools DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY FOR THIS METHOD.
4. Install AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6. Once installed, go to windows explorer and check the mounted ISO drive to see if the AACS Directory has been renamed to SLY!. If so, you should be good.
5. In AnyDVD HD, right click on the icon in the taskbar, and you will see: Rip Video HD-DVD / Blu-Ray to Hard disk. Choose that, make sure the drive being chosen is the one with the Nero mounted Blu-Ray image and let it rip. I suggest not doing much while it works its magic.
5a. Now, a lot of people talked about how AnyDVD HD has errors with blu-ray, but that is because they fixed the ripping in the latest version ONLY if you use the special rip tool. If you go to windows explorer and copy over the files to your hard drive, THEY WILL ERROR. This is the ONLY way to do it properly, and i will show you how to verify next.
6. Once complete, you should have the full blu-ray in your hard drive and ready to go. As a test, close AnyDVD HD and try to play any of the .m2ts's on the image mounted, THEY WILL NOT WORK. But the ones off of the hard drive you decrypted will. Now, you need to check for errors. Most blu-ray movies come with MPEG2 Trailers which are ~100-300 megs a piece for other blu-ray movies. Copy 2-3 of them into a empty directory. You will need to check these for errors. When AnyDVD HD errors, it happens on every file, so you want to check at least 2-3 files for errors and make sure they are ok using MPEG2Repair.
7. MPEG2Repair WILL NOT accept Decrypted .m2ts files. You need to convert them to .ts. The program i use is called: m2tstots. It is command line based and lightening fast. Once you convert those files you have, go ahead and run them through MPEG2 repair, 1 by 1. You will have a stream error, dont worry about that, its because ALL blu-rays give that error. Once done, the only thing you want to look for is errors in the video/audio areas. I did this with 4 different movies i had no keys for and they worked perfectly.
If you guys have any issues i will be back later to help, but that is how ive SUCCESSFULLY decrypted blu-ray movies WITHOUT ANY ERRORS using no keys at all!!! Credit goes out my VERY good friend mart who without his help getting started, none of this would have been possible. Enjoy!
CZroe
29th May 2007, 00:23
Guys, i will elaborate with pics and much more later, but i thought you guys would like the gist of it so you can get started. Here is how i do it.
1. Install SAK (Swiss Army Knife) to the PS3 OtherOS and boot into it. [You can find it at disreputable sites like PS3news.com.] I use the network connection and do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser and transfer the ISO over the network. You can hook up a FAT32 hard drive and get the ISO that way as well.
2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3.
3. Install Nero Premium v7.8.5.0 and once installed, go to StartSmart, Extras Tab, make sure its in Advanced Mode and then choose Mount ISO image. Mount the ISO of the blu-ray movie you have. It is VERY important to use nero, as Daemon Tools DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY FOR THIS METHOD.
4. Install AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6. Once installed, go to windows explorer and check the mounted ISO drive to see if the AACS Directory has been renamed to SLY!. If so, you should be good.
5. In AnyDVD HD, right click on the icon in the taskbar, and you will see: Rip Video HD-DVD / Blu-Ray to Hard disk. Choose that, make sure the drive being chosen is the one with the Nero mounted Blu-Ray image and let it rip. I suggest not doing much while it works its magic.
5a. Now, a lot of people talked about how AnyDVD HD has errors with blu-ray, but that is because they fixed the ripping in the latest version ONLY if you use the special rip tool. If you go to windows explorer and copy over the files to your hard drive, THEY WILL ERROR. This is the ONLY way to do it properly, and i will show you how to verify next.
6. Once complete, you should have the full blu-ray in your hard drive and ready to go. As a test, close AnyDVD HD and try to play any of the .m2ts's on the image mounted, THEY WILL NOT WORK. But the ones off of the hard drive you decrypted will. Now, you need to check for errors. Most blu-ray movies come with MPEG2 Trailers which are ~100-300 megs a piece for other blu-ray movies. Copy 2-3 of them into a empty directory. You will need to check these for errors. When AnyDVD HD errors, it happens on every file, so you want to check at least 2-3 files for errors and make sure they are ok using MPEG2Repair.
7. MPEG2Repair WILL NOT accept Decrypted .m2ts files. You need to convert them to .ts. The program i use is called: m2tstots. It is command line based and lightening fast. Once you convert those files you have, go ahead and run them through MPEG2 repair, 1 by 1. You will have a stream error, dont worry about that, its because ALL blu-rays give that error. Once done, the only thing you want to look for is errors in the video/audio areas. I did this with 4 different movies i had no keys for and they worked perfectly.
If you guys have any issues i will be back later to help, but that is how ive SUCCESSFULLY decrypted blu-ray movies WITHOUT ANY ERRORS using no keys at all!!! Credit goes out my VERY good friend mart who without his help getting started, none of this would have been possible. Enjoy!
You promised to elaborate with pics later, we are into page 7 now, where are the pics? :thanks:
I will elaborate on my progress so far because the steps above are MADDENINGLY lacking (no offense QuePaso; it's mostly all the other Linux and Sony sites sending me on wild goose-chases).
1. [Download and] Install SAK (Swiss Army Knife) to the PS3 OtherOS and boot into it. [You will also need Sony's "PS3 Other OS Installer." Finding it is a chore because PS3 linux distro documentation and PS3 news sites will tell you to get it from Sony's Open Platform page while Sony's Open Platform page will tell you to obtain it from your Other OS provider. NONE of the news sites or documentation will even give you the Open Platform page URL. ISOs of so-called "ready to use" PS3 Linux distros including Fedora Core 5 and Yellow Dog Linux will also lack the installer (otheros.self file) and require you to modify the ISO before burning (what's the point in distributing it as an ISO then?! caused me a few coasters). That doesn't even touch on the frustrations I had finding out that the file was needed due to inadequate error messages on the PS3 itself.] Certainly deserves a mention here. I use the network connection and do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser and transfer the ISO over the network. You can hook up a FAT32 hard drive and get the ISO that way as well.
[See how much longer that step was? The only place I could get it was from an unsavory website... PS3news.com (registration required; limited "download credits." Certainly not useful for a URL to be included in a guide)]
2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory [on a drive with a filesystem that supports files larger than 4GB such as NTFS or EXT3. Don't think that part of the instructions is not needed just because Windows XP is needed for the next set of utilities because even my 120GB laptop came preformatted as FAT32 (and it has Gigabit and dual-core so it would be my preferred system to do this on)]. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3.
I'm ripping my first disc now (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl) and this is as far as I have gotten. It's taken DAYS. Next time, just YouTube the entire process from a fresh out of box PS3 and fresh installation of Windows. Even the YouTube PS3 installation vids I found when trying to see what I was missing when installing an "Other OS" all ignore the otheros.self stuff and only show you the useless screens you couldn't avoid even if you got that far! How useful is that?! Thanks QuePaso, but we need a real, proper guide because it's really not as simple as you imagine.
Isn't this because otheros.self has been implemented directly into the PS3 firmware? Now all you can use is otheros.bld? Are you using otheros.self with 1.7 or 1.8?
CZroe
29th May 2007, 17:29
Isn't this because otheros.self has been implemented directly into the PS3 firmware? Now all you can use is otheros.bld? Are you using otheros.self with 1.7 or 1.8?
FW1.51 here because Paradox claimed that it is still exploitable and I am willing to wait. No documentation mentioned a minimum FW requirement though Sony's Open Platform page said that you must have FW 1.6 or higher for the installer (not true). The otheros.self "Installer" that I found instead claimed that something like FW1.1 or 1.3 was the minimum FW for using an "Other OS" with this installer (v1.0).
BTW, the only additional progress I've had time for is concatenating the files into one image on an NTFS drive. I don't have a Vista machine so my brother is taking the drive to work to see what we can do from here.
Now, is it true that there is no way to playback BD/HD-DVD images in Windows XP, even if you have AnyDVD installed? I was sure that the HDCP/Vista restriction was lifted by AnyDVD, right? So my question is, if so, what player supports this under Windows XP?
eousphoros
29th May 2007, 21:00
FW1.51 here because Paradox claimed that it is still exploitable and I am willing to wait. No documentation mentioned a minimum FW requirement though Sony's Open Platform page said that you must have FW 1.6 or higher for the installer (not true). The otheros.self "Installer" that I found instead claimed that something like FW1.1 or 1.3 was the minimum FW for using an "Other OS" with this installer (v1.0).
BTW, the only additional progress I've had time for is concatenating the files into one image on an NTFS drive. I don't have a Vista machine so my brother is taking the drive to work to see what we can do from here.
Now, is it true that there is no way to playback BD/HD-DVD images in Windows XP, even if you have AnyDVD installed? I was sure that the HDCP/Vista restriction was lifted by AnyDVD, right? So my question is, if so, what player supports this under Windows XP?
Forcing yourself to stay at 1.51 is silly esp when they have nand programmers out now that will downgrade your ps3 if this supposed exploit ever comes out. Linux is a snap to install on 1.8 plus you get upscaled dvd's and upscaled ps1/ps2 games. And powerdvd plays hddvd images fine
Viper8896
30th May 2007, 07:20
has anyone tried using anydvd with wine. that way the whole dd creating the iso could be skipped out.
CZroe
30th May 2007, 16:19
Edit: Oops. I meant to copy/paste this into a PM.
Forcing yourself to stay at 1.51 is silly esp when they have nand programmers out now that will downgrade your ps3 if this supposed exploit ever comes out. Linux is a snap to install on 1.8 plus you get upscaled dvd's and upscaled ps1/ps2 games.
Yes, I am familiar with the benefits of 1.8 FW, and because I am using my PS3 primarily as a PStwo and Blu-Ray player, it's more relevant to me than those who actually bought it to play PS3 games. However, I'm still not sure that upgrading is the smart thing to do when the primary benefit is upscaling. My XBR image processor upscales to 1080p well enough, though the images I've seen of the PS2 upscaling look much better.
You mean there are PS3 Linux utilities that can access the entire flash and write to it? With the PSP, it took forever before that was possible (large parts of the flashmemory were flashable, yes), and I would assume that the Hypervisor is allowing it access only to a very specific part of it (or a virtualized flash area). Unless there is a Hypervisor exploit for FW1.8? I was surprised that the forums I frequent were blissfully unaware of things like SAK and "Sony PS3 Other OS Installer," but I would not have imagined them to be this far behind.
Is a PS3 FW downgrade actually possible already without taking out the chips or using a test clip?
And powerdvd plays hddvd images fine
Edit: I've done some research and the downgrade is not yet possible without brute force (removing or socketing chips or using equipment such as test clips). I am not willing to open a $600 PS3 and rip parts out until the warranty is expired, so upgrading to 1.8 is not an option until A) An exploit for 1.51 is proven to not be possible or B) an exploit for 1.8 appears or C) The PS3 price floor drops out and the things become practically disposable (HA!). I'm perfectly willing to tolerate PStwo games as they were meant to be played (without upscaling) and the Resistance Fall of Man "exploit" will allow me to play most FW1.52+ games.
And another update on my rip progress: My PowerDVD version is incorrect for POTC:COTBP, but it does playback other BD images mounted in Nero Image Drive just fine... well, "just fine" if you like slide-shows. Should it be less than a frame per second on a Pentium 4 3.2GHz CPU with 2GB system memory and a 1050p 16:10 monitor (lower-resolution than the material)? I haven't done anything with the AnyDVD HD rip results yet for any of my rips because I have no BD burner and I don't know how to remaster it into something that'll play back from split-up DVD9 discs or a HDD connected to the PS3.
pointvu
5th June 2007, 03:33
seems the infectus downgrader is being on sold on mrmodchips. and you connect the chip via usb to downgrade. if anybody has bought it, and tried to downgrade, would like to know how well it works.
CZroe
5th June 2007, 04:38
seems the infectus downgrader is being on sold on mrmodchips. and you connect the chip via usb to downgrade. if anybody has bought it, and tried to downgrade, would like to know how well it works.
Actually, it must attach to your NAND flash chips directly. The USB port is for your PC to connect to the chip and perform the dump and flash processes. It is equivalent to using a TSOP test clip + chip documentation to read and flash your NAND chips except it is much more difficult to attach. Unfortunately, you can't just upgrade your firmware and then buy this if there is ever a need to downgrade. It requires a dump of your own NAND flash to downgrade to! It's not a "downgrader" at all. It's just a "rewinder" for risk-takers who bought it before needing it.
I see no resason to split anything unless you are set on using sak. My process
1:Copy movie to an external usb hard drive in linux on ps3(many tutorials on this)
2:Go to pc and install ext2fs and Anydvd (Mentioned earlier in this thread)
3:Plug usb hard drive into pc and mount .iso file with nero or dameons tools
4:Decrypt movie
5:Install Red Kawas File Server
6:Go back to ps3 xmb and use the ps3'2 internet browser to "download" the main movie file (.m2ts) to your ps3
The setup for the file server is pretty straight forward, just follow the directions it gives you. This works for avc and mpeg2 but not vc-1. Just trying to be a little helpful
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=2974&page=5
My PS3 doesn't show a thing when I type in my IP address. Before I start trying to diagnose network and firewall problems, let me just ask: Is there a minimum firmware for this method? I'm on 1.51. :)
ps3hacker
24th June 2007, 03:08
You must have the file server installed and running on the puter you want to transfer files from. Install this http://www.redkawa.com/fileserver/download/windows/index.phpis
Once its running it will tell you what ip adress and port number you must type in your ps3's net browser. Type that address in and you should be able to access all of your files on your pc.
You must set up your download directory,also. This can be don on your pc. Go to "Launch file sever" in red kawas file server. Than go to settings ang add dir.
Side note: When the ps3 does not let you download .m2ts files directly to ps3. A workaround for this is to name them .mp4. This will let you download straight to ps3 hard drive. Also, when downloading more than 4gb, the ps3 says 100 percent at the 4 gb mark and it seems like it hangs, but just give it more time. If it is a 16gb movie it will take 4 times as long as it says.20gb 5 times
psme
29th June 2007, 06:56
1. Install SAK (Swiss Army Knife) to the PS3 OtherOS and boot into it. [You can find it at disreputable sites like PS3news.com.] I use the network connection and do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser and transfer the ISO over the network. You can hook up a FAT32 hard drive and get the ISO that way as well.
What exactly does this "do it via the ps3 instead of" mean?
From the SAK page http://www.ps3news.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3670 it say:
• Web Interface (via HTTP) that lets you do all of the below featured!
• Check Blu-Ray Disk size
• Format internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to external EXT3 HDD
• Back-up iSO via wired network, to Windows Network Share
So SAK web interface should already rip BD in ISO to internal/external/network. So why should one "do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser"?
Thanks in advance.
regards,
Li On
CZroe
1st July 2007, 03:04
What exactly does this "do it via the ps3 instead of" mean?
From the SAK page http://www.ps3news.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3670 it say:
• Web Interface (via HTTP) that lets you do all of the below featured!
• Check Blu-Ray Disk size
• Format internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to external EXT3 HDD
• Back-up iSO via wired network, to Windows Network Share
So SAK web interface should already rip BD in ISO to internal/external/network. So why should one "do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser"?
Thanks in advance.
regards,
Li On
It doesn't really make much sense. He's saying that all of the features below "Web Interface (via HTTP) that lets you do all of the below featured!" can be controlled remotely by a PC with the web browser interface, but that can also be used with a USB keyboard connected to the PS3. Until you pointed it out, I kinda thought that the web interface was just an alternative for the "Back-up iSO via wired network, to Windows Network Share" feature (via HTTP or FTP download).
Too slow for my tastes. I much prefer an external USB hard drive.
ndjr
10th July 2007, 07:24
Does the SAK work with the 1.82v PS3 firmware???
ndjr
11th July 2007, 23:44
Anyone there???
Humpa
12th July 2007, 00:15
Anyone there???I'm here, I just don't know the answer to your question. But I don't see why not. You can install another OS on 1.82 just like any other version - YellowDog works exactly the same for me, so I don't know why SAK wouldn't.
ndjr
12th July 2007, 08:36
hmm, I can`t get it to work, I must try a little harder then
ndjr
14th July 2007, 04:42
I just can`t get it to work! have anyone successfully made a copy a blu-ray movie with firmware 1.82 ????
this is all a get, then nothing happens
Backup Blu-Ray to device at /dev/sdd
Selected /dev/sdd - Checking for partition now
Found our Hard Disk - /dev/sdd !
Enough Space To Backup!
Initializing to backup - This will complete when the backup is finished
Please do not leave this page, until you see that it has completed (with a message)
ndjr
14th July 2007, 14:24
yes finally, it does work!
bourke
14th July 2007, 16:09
What was wrong before?
ndjr
15th July 2007, 00:34
What was wrong before?
me...!
zebra
18th July 2007, 22:17
First, linux will divide iso into 4G files, because fat32 file can't be bigger than that. So then join the files, you have to join to a ntfs partition, otherwise it will hang when it reached 4g. Then what you get is a bin file, you have to give it a iso ext to let nero or daemon to recognize it. And then you use anydvd hd to copy your original blu-ray or hd dvd. After several try, I finally figured the bove out and got the copy. But the problem is, the copy is a folder, not a iso. Yes, there is a stream sub folder you can play, but the main menu page
with the clickable items is not there and the page with items icon are in sepeate sub folders and not clikable, I tried different ways to copy, but still same result, no iso. Any idea?
zebra
20th July 2007, 02:58
Also, is there any possibility PS3 will work with virtual disk? Since fat32 can't do it, how let PS# recognize ntfs?
dasilva99
4th August 2007, 18:29
Hello,
I installed linux and vlc on my ps3.
Ripped and decrypted fantastic 4 blu ray to external hdd.
From linux on the ps3 i loaded vlc and tried to play the m2ts files but they stutter badly (play fine on xp).
Is there any player that will play them properly on the ps3 through linux?
Or can i convert the files to something that will play back correctly?
Thanks,
Nick
Speediakal
5th August 2007, 21:17
umm, i dont understand part 2, it says:
"2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3."
but a FAT32 formatted drive can't handle files over 4GB and a BD is definetly over 4GB!?
when i rip my BD, it broke it into 3.5GB chunks labeled Blu-Ray.aa, Blu-Ray.ab, etc. all the way to Blu-Ray.aj....what do i do now? how do im open them, or make them into a iso or something that i can work with?
zeroprobe
6th August 2007, 12:17
umm, i dont understand part 2, it says:
"2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3."
but a FAT32 formatted drive can't handle files over 4GB and a BD is definetly over 4GB!?
when i rip my BD, it broke it into 3.5GB chunks labeled Blu-Ray.aa, Blu-Ray.ab, etc. all the way to Blu-Ray.aj....what do i do now? how do im open them, or make them into a iso or something that i can work with?
copy them onto an ntfs drive and then at a dos prompt do copy /b blu-ray* new.iso
Then mount.
Speediakal
6th August 2007, 19:30
i did that, but when i open it with 7-Zip or something, it says its an invalid file? or is that suppose to happen and i just have to mount it and rip it?
[EDIT] ok, so i opened it in ISoBuster and all the files are there. so ill try mounting it and see what happens.
Speedy523
7th August 2007, 21:31
Hi! I'm trying to dump my BD to my PC using Networkwork share, but I always get this error: Backup Blu-Ray to Network Share
IP Address: 192.168.1.7
Foldername: ps3
httpd: option requires an argument -- d BusyBox v1.1.3 (2007.02.22-18:46+0000) multi-call binary Usage: httpd [-c ] [-p ] [-r ] [-h home] [-d/-e ] Listens for incoming http server requests. Options: -c FILE Specifies configuration file. (default httpd.conf) -p PORT Server port (default 80) -r REALM Authentication Realm for Basic Authentication -h HOME Specifies http HOME directory (default ./) -e STRING Html encode STRING -d STRING URL decode STRING Username:
httpd: option requires an argument -- d BusyBox v1.1.3 (2007.02.22-18:46+0000) multi-call binary Usage: httpd [-c ] [-p ] [-r ] [-h home] [-d/-e ] Listens for incoming http server requests. Options: -c FILE Specifies configuration file. (default httpd.conf) -p PORT Server port (default 80) -r REALM Authentication Realm for Basic Authentication -h HOME Specifies http HOME directory (default ./) -e STRING Html encode STRING -d STRING URL decode STRING Password:
Checking Permissions...
Folder Exists.
You Have an Error, possible causes are: Bad Username/Password
The exact error is listed below
mount: Mounting //192.168.1.7/ps3 on /mnt/network failed: Invalid argument
My folders require no password to access, so I keep those firlds blank, so I don't see what the problem is.
Also I've tried backing it up yo my PS3 HD so I can access off of the internet, but everytime I try it says:
Drive:/dev/sda
Found our Hard Disk - /dev/sda !
Enough Space To Backup!
mkdir: Cannot create directory '/mnt/ps3hdd': File Exists
It always says this when I try backing my disk up to mmy HD, and it always stays at this screen.
So can anyone tell me how to fix my network share and my backup to HD?
Speediakal
9th August 2007, 18:14
so i ripped the files, but when i open the movie file in something like media player classic, or MPEG Streamclip or VLC, i just get the audio, though in VLC it shows that there is a video track but can't play it. i was also reading a guide for converting BD to H.264 using MeGUI, but it said i needed a DirectShow codec or filter. where can i get this from?
peau
27th August 2007, 04:54
I dont think anyone's mentioned anything about the nero part, but I have nero ultra, but I cant seem to find that tab (even in expert mode) about mounting the iso. I thought that premium was a lesser version. just wondering....
SamuriHL
27th August 2007, 04:55
That Nero function no workie with Vista...Use Daemon Tools.
pjo
1st September 2007, 10:50
Hello !
1. I read that Nero7 Ultra Enhanced ImageDrive does not run in Vista.
Is this true ?
2. DAEMEON Tools 4.10, can this version od DAEMON Tools load the Blu-Ray ISO image ? and BackupBDAV will run ok ?
On my Vista desktop it does not work.
Thanks in advance.
pjo
SuperGoof
1st September 2007, 11:49
Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive works fine in 32-bit Vista. (does not work in 64-bit Vista though.) It loads Blu-ray images just fine. Also it's free.
pjo
1st September 2007, 12:21
Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive works fine in 32-bit Vista. (does not work in 64-bit Vista though.) It loads Blu-ray images just fine. Also it's free.
Thanks, SuperGoof.
I have tried it but PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra could not play it.
DVDInfo Pro reports that the drive does not support BD-R.
SuperGoof
1st September 2007, 13:11
I have tried it but PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra could not play it.
In order for PowerDVD to play it, a Blu-ray image mounted with VCD (and perhaps any other similar program) must:
1) Contain already unencrypted .m2ts files OR you have to have AnyDVD HD running on the background to decrypt it 'on the fly', AND
2) The image must have UDF2.5 file system only.
DVDInfo Pro reports that the drive does not support BD-R.
It should not matter.
pjo
1st September 2007, 13:22
In order for PowerDVD to play it, a Blu-ray image mounted with VCD (and perhaps any other similar program) must:
1) Contain already unencrypted .m2ts files OR you have to have AnyDVD HD running on the background to decrypt it 'on the fly', AND
2) The image must have UDF2.5 file system only.
It should not matter.
Thanks.
With AnyDVD 6.1.6.9 running, AnyDVD Ripper generates error, "Drive F: is not ready".
Please advise what to check. Drive F: is the Virtual CloneDrive.
How do I check if the image is UDF 2.5 ? Vista File Explorer property shows it is UDF.
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ImgBurn shows that it is UDF 2.60
SuperGoof
1st September 2007, 13:44
With AnyDVD 6.1.6.9 running, AnyDVD Ripper generates error, "Drive F: is not ready".
How do I check if the image is UDF 2.5?
First, update AnyDVD HD to 6.1.7.0. This is the latest and also stable version. Versions in-between 6.1.6.5 and 6.1.7.0 are unstable (read: buggy).
Also, if you deal with encrypted ISO images, taken from PS3, it is better to always have the latest version of AnyDVD, as in this case they rely on some database of keys to decrypt the image, and they renew the database with each new version.
How do I check if the image is UDF 2.5?
DVDInfo Pro should tell it in "Media Info" tab.
Also you can use IsoBuster.
pjo
1st September 2007, 13:50
Thanks.
DVD Info Pro reports that it is UDF 2.96.
SuperGoof
1st September 2007, 13:55
Thanks.
DVD Info Pro reports that it is UDF 2.96.
UDF 2.96 does not exist.
Possible values are: 1.02, 1.5, 2.0, 2.01, 2.5, 2.6.
Update AnyDVD anyway. It might help.
pjo
1st September 2007, 14:13
It looks like AnyDVD 6.1.7.0 cannot decrypt this image.
In the drive F:, AACS folder stays as AACS.
Trying to rip, "Drive F: is not ready".
pjo
1st September 2007, 15:21
Maybe SAK dump was not OK.
SamuriHL
1st September 2007, 15:22
Virtual CloneDrive does not work correctly for Blu-ray and HD DVD images(for playback in PowerDVD Ultra especially). Slysoft is aware of this issue and are working on a new version, but, it's been very slow coming. Daemon Tools is your best bet. As for Nero Image Drive, as I said before, it does not work in Vista. Hope this helps!
pjo
1st September 2007, 15:25
Virtual CloneDrive does not work correctly for Blu-ray and HD DVD images(for playback in PowerDVD Ultra especially). Slysoft is aware of this issue and are working on a new version, but, it's been very slow coming. Daemon Tools is your best bet. As for Nero Image Drive, as I said before, it does not work in Vista. Hope this helps!
Thanks SamuriHL.
I also have been trying the DAEMON Tools v4.10.
AnyDVD does not work either.
Any advise ?
Pata
3rd September 2007, 10:06
Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format
SamuriHL
4th September 2007, 23:06
pjo:
Try grabbing the 6.1.7.1 beta and see if that helps at all with decrypting your image correctly.
pjo
5th September 2007, 00:52
pjo:
Try grabbing the 6.1.7.1 beta and see if that helps at all with decrypting your image correctly.
SamuriHL, Thanks.
I am getting a Panasonic BD drive so I will test it with the physical drive.
BTW I read this http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=129571 .
It looks like AnyDVD HD will not be able to do the job soon.
How do you guys think ?
It looks like DAEMON Tools does not return correct AGID, etc.
Is this correct ?
I am running Vista, so Vista is OK for UDF 2.5.
Do I need to install UDF driver in Vista ?
I could not find one. Pls advise on this.
Thanks in advance.
SamuriHL
5th September 2007, 00:55
No, you don't need a UDF driver for Vista. Daemon will work fine. The issue is that AnyDVD HD is not able to decrypt the mounted ISO that you ripped from your PS3. They generally fix those problems in updates which is why I suggested 6.1.7.1 beta. If you get an actual BD drive it will be better than ripping an ISO and transferring it.
pjo
5th September 2007, 01:21
No, you don't need a UDF driver for Vista. Daemon will work fine. The issue is that AnyDVD HD is not able to decrypt the mounted ISO that you ripped from your PS3. They generally fix those problems in updates which is why I suggested 6.1.7.1 beta. If you get an actual BD drive it will be better than ripping an ISO and transferring it.
Thanks again for your reply.
The AACS directory contains:
AACS_av directory
MKB_RW.inf file
AACS_av contains:
CPSUnit00001.cci
CPSUnit00002.cci
Unit_Key_RW.inf
BDAV contains:
CLIPINF
PLAYLIST
STREAM
info.bdav
cci is Copy Control Information for CPRM (Content Protection for Recordable Media)
I assume this is why AnyDVD HD cannot do the job.
I can assure that BackupBDAV with the physical BD drive can rip it. Although the ripped files still contain CCI.
After ripping it with BackupBDAV, by deleting AACS directory, it can be burned again and the BD player can play it.
pjo
5th September 2007, 01:23
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/AACS-to-counterattack-with-watermarks-and-encrypted-keys.html
How could AnyDVD HD survive this counterattack ?
SamuriHL
5th September 2007, 18:06
Thanks again for your reply.
The AACS directory contains:
AACS_av directory
MKB_RW.inf file
AACS_av contains:
CPSUnit00001.cci
CPSUnit00002.cci
Unit_Key_RW.inf
BDAV contains:
CLIPINF
PLAYLIST
STREAM
info.bdav
cci is Copy Control Information for CPRM (Content Protection for Recordable Media)
I assume this is why AnyDVD HD cannot do the job.
I can assure that BackupBDAV with the physical BD drive can rip it. Although the ripped files still contain CCI.
After ripping it with BackupBDAV, by deleting AACS directory, it can be burned again and the BD player can play it.
Fascinating. I know that Peer said that AnyDVD does not handle CPRM so maybe you're right about that. That seems odd, though. You could always email Slysoft support and see if they have any suggestions.
Th3K1n6
30th October 2007, 16:54
hi everyone
sorry for my english but I'm Italian...
I have a problem with my iso of casinò royale....I've done it with sak, then i've mounted it in nero image drive(version 3.6.1.0 of nero 8), and with anydvd (my version is 6.1.9.3), i selected rip the dvd-video on my hdd...but when I selected the unit where my iso was mounted, any dvd says: "The drive is not Ready"......i've tryied also with blu-ray disc ripper, but it says: "The Source file doesn't exist"....how can I solve this problem?
Thank you very much
edit: I've tryed also with daemon tool(version 4.10) but it doesn't work too....
Th3K1n6
31st October 2007, 15:44
hi everyone
sorry for my english but I'm Italian...
I have a problem with my iso of casinò royale....I've done it with sak, then i've mounted it in nero image drive(version 3.6.1.0 of nero 8), and with anydvd (my version is 6.1.9.3), i selected rip the dvd-video on my hdd...but when I selected the unit where my iso was mounted, any dvd says: "The drive is not Ready"......i've tryied also with blu-ray disc ripper, but it says: "The Source file doesn't exist"....how can I solve this problem?
Thank you very much
edit: I've tryed also with daemon tool(version 4.10) but it doesn't work too....
can someone help me?
Thanks
Th3K1n6
7th November 2007, 21:36
up....thanks
Adaminc
10th January 2008, 05:42
Can someone please upload m2tstots i cant find it anywhere
thanks
Quatre
1st March 2008, 21:01
what program will extract the main .m2ts file from the BDMV>Stream folder from a .iso set up with that file syste (bluray file syste)
tried several programs. only one could open the iso and see the files but wouldn't extract the .m2ts file.
JetJock_fl
15th February 2009, 22:32
what program will extract the main .m2ts file from the BDMV>Stream folder from a .iso set up with that file syste (bluray file syste)
tried several programs. only one could open the iso and see the files but wouldn't extract the .m2ts file.
AnyDVD does it. But it's pricey.
lchiu7
23rd February 2009, 01:02
This is an old thread that hasn't had much activity recently but looks interesting. Although I had a BD/HD-DVD drive so I don't need to do this I wanted to try it out. What I am fearful about is the note on the first page that says you have to format your PSD3 HD (which is a Sony requirement for other OS). yet on the Open Platform for Playstation page, there is no mention of having to format the internal drive. I just don't want to lose all the kids saved games.
Any clarification?
Thanks
[EDIT]
I see in the FAQ for Other OS it's possible to install a new OS without formatting the PS3 drive to create a partition for it. This is when you don't need access to the PS3 drive. I am thinking that if you use SAK and attach a USB drive to the PS3 you could dump the ISO directly to the USB drive without ever having to access the internal HD.
Is this the case? If so then it's something I might consider
drfix
13th March 2009, 05:02
Hi Ichiu7,
I used this guide : http://en.opensuse.org/PS3
and link on it to Sony's official guide.
There is no need to format internal HD. You will just allocate 10GB for "Other OS". Message about formatting is very misleading. Doesn't touch anything on your internal harddrive.
1) allocated 10GB
2) installed openSUSE 11.1
3) plug in external USB 2.0 HD which is NTFS Formatted !!! ( can't use FAT/FAT32, you might have to mount manually i.e. sudo mount /dev/sdd /media/usb )
3) using dd command with -bs 1536kb I read BD and created 30GB ISO ( i.e. dd -bs=1536kb if=/dev/scd0 -of=/media/usb )
4) umount and unplug drive
5) now, connect that drive to PC and you have ISO which for example works under AnyDVD just fine
I wish there would be DumpVID for PS3 LINUX or some kind of method to get VUK using PS3 ...
Regards
drfix
MrAngles
1st June 2009, 00:15
Strangely, when I dump my copy of Benjamin Button it appears to be successful, but the iso ends up only being about 22 gigs, cutting off the second half of the movie. All my other BDs have worked perfectly. Has anyone else had this issue?
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