Problem converting back to PAL after NTSC conversion

[kpic]

Do not know if this is in the right forum & hope this makes sense:

I had a Sony DVD player that would play "patched" dvds meaning they were PAL and to play them on the DVD player I was able to load them into IFOEDIT and convert them to NTSC without having to convert the video itself, they ended up being MPEG2-NTSC-352x480.

Fast forward I now have a region-free\multi system Pioneer player that when I put in the same DVD I get the whole screen jumping around. Simple I said to myself just go back to IFOEDIT take the same DVD and revert it back to PAL settings (352x576), this did'nt work though. Stuck!

[setarip_old]

Hi!I had a Sony DVD player that would play "patched" dvds meaning they were PAL and to play them on the DVD player I was able to load them into IFOEDIT and convert them to NTSCSimple I said to myself just go back to IFOEDIT take the same DVD and revert it back to PAL settings1) Why not just make a backup of your original PAL DVD?

2) Look at the settings available for your Pioneer. It's likely you just have to change a setting from "NTSC" to "PAL" or vice-versa...

[kpic]

Yeah.....ummm....the original discs....well, why would I need them? Its not like I will ever get another DVD player or anything! DOH!!

No settings for the player, I think it auto detects a "REAL" PAL DVD, I just tried one and it played fine, just these that I tinkered with are all messed up.

[setarip_old]

Yeah.....ummm....the original discs....well, why would I need them? Its not like I will ever get another DVD player or anything! DOH!!??????????

[kpic]

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Yeah, I know stupid but these were not factory PAL DVDs they were DVDs of Formula One that were handwritten, burned etc. after my patch I figured I would never need them again.

This issue turned out to be my player though. I thought I had tried a real PAL DVD but it turned out it was NTSC, when I tried a real PAL DVD it did the same exact thing. Turns out I thought the player would auto set between NTSC \PAL , it does not. I had to hold the "FF" button on the player while powering on to switch between AUTO\NTSC\PAL. Luckily it works fine now as there would have been a lot of DVDs to convert over!

[jshumate]

This issue turned out to be my player though. I thought I had tried a real PAL DVD but it turned out it was NTSC, when I tried a real PAL DVD it did the same exact thing. Turns out I thought the player would auto set between NTSC \PAL , it does not. I had to hold the "FF" button on the player while powering on to switch between AUTO\NTSC\PAL. Luckily it works fine now as there would have been a lot of DVDs to convert over!

If you live in the USA, unless you have a multistandard TV (if you don't know if you have one or not, then you don't) you should always set this to NTSC. Here's what the settings mean:

NTSC - Display all output as NTSC, regardless of source format.
PAL - Dispaly all output as PAL, regardless of source format.
AUTO - Display all output in the same format as input. NTSC is displayed as NTSC. PAL is displayed as PAL.

Most American DVD players defautl to AUTO, which is completely wrong as our TVs are incapable of correctly displaying a PAL signal. However, it works because most people in the USA don't buy PAL DVDs, so they never know about this setting since it will correctly display NTSC DVDs as NTSC in AUTO mode. It's just when people try to play PAL DVDs that they have problems with this mode.

[kpic]

Thanks, thats great info (I do not have a multistandard TV) I knew the player was capable of playing PAL on U.S. tvs , but knew nothing of the settings and what they mean. Your explanation is very helpful and hopefully helpful to others as well, thanks!

[techreactor]

Very well said, jshumate