YOUR favorite VOB editor

[MetateM]

I'm trying to remove a few frames in different areas of a project but I can't find a VOB editor I like to do the job.


What are some of your favorites?


:thanks:

[r0lZ]

Take care. You cannot edit a VOB file without editing the IFOs also!

VobBlanker (free) can do the job (on the VOB and IFOs) but is only GOP accurate. (This means that the precision of the cut point is within approx. 1/2 second.)

Womble MPEG Viodeo Wizard DVD (commercial) is frame accurate, but you have to reauthor your DVD completely. It has also many limitations (such as only 1 audio and 1 subpic stream.)

[MetateM]

Take care. You cannot edit a VOB file without editing the IFOs also!

VobBlanker (free) can do the job (on the VOB and IFOs) but is only GOP accurate. (This means that the precision of the cut point is within approx. 1/2 second.)

Womble MPEG Viodeo Wizard DVD (commercial) is frame accurate, but you have to reauthor your DVD completely. It has also many limitations (such as only 1 audio and 1 subpic stream.)

That's it?!

This is the digital age and people are doing so much with their digital content yet we have yet to conqueror the art of cutting out different portions of video?

This is just plain sad. I really hoped to get a long list of great apps free/commercial yet your post (no offense) makes it sound like there's not many options and the few options there are involves fubaring video and audio streams.

This is a sad, sad day for digital content.

*<insert a famous digital creator> hangs their head in sadness*

[blutach]

Really, with VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) it is just a few clicks. There's even a guide on the site for the uninitiated.

You are making it sound harder than it is. Try it and good luck.

Regards

[MetateM]

Really, with VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) it is just a few clicks. There's even a guide on the site for the uninitiated.

You are making it sound harder than it is. Try it and good luck.

Regards

Awesome, yes I can be highstrung.

Will I lose quality by using this program?

[r0lZ]

No. That's the good point with digital material. ;)

Since VobBlanker cuts always at the beginning of a GOP, it has nothing to reencode.
Womble must reencode a few frames near the cut point, but keeps the rest of the video unchanged.

[MetateM]

Really, with VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) it is just a few clicks. There's even a guide on the site for the uninitiated.

You are making it sound harder than it is. Try it and good luck.

Regards

Another quick question about it, can you do multiple cuts? Right now it looks like I'd have to do the cut, process it, reopen it, do another cut etc etc.

Is this true?

As usual,
:thanks:

[r0lZ]

Right. You can do one click per cell only. There is at least one cell per chapter.
Note that you have to go to cells mode to be able to cut at the cell level.

Since you can also split a cell in several parts, it is possible to create as many cells as you want in a first run, and then cut what you need in each cell in a second run.

[MetateM]

Right. You can do one click per cell only. There is at least one cell per chapter.
Note that you have to go to cells mode to be able to cut at the cell level.

Since you can also split a cell in several parts, it is possible to create as many cells as you want in a first run, and then cut what you need in each cell in a second run.

I know this expands outside of this topic, but I'm really lost with this program and the help menus seem to be designed for an advanced user.

How exactly do I divide a cell up?

Where is this cells mode you speak of?

Thanks.

[r0lZ]

OK, select the VTS in the top pane, and double click on the PGC in the bottom pane (or click once on the PGC and then on the Cells button). A new window is opened. That is cell mode.
Select a cell, and click Split to split in several parts.
Or, select a cell and click Prev/Cut to cut at the cell level.

Note that, when you split a cell, you might want to untick the Add Program and Add Chapter options, as your goal is not to create a new chapter.
Also, it's a good idea to split the cell exactly at a cut point. It will be easier to cut the part you want to remove later.

[MetateM]

OK, select the VTS in the top pane, and double click on the PGC in the bottom pane (or click once on the PGC and then on the Cells button). A new window is opened. That is cell mode.
Select a cell, and click Split to split in several parts.
Or, select a cell and click Prev/Cut to cut at the cell level.

Note that, when you split a cell, you might want to untick the Add Program and Add Chapter options, as your goal is not to create a new chapter.
Also, it's a good idea to split the cell exactly at a cut point. It will be easier to cut the part you want to remove later.
Awesome! Thank you.

Now then, here's another question. After I've found my spot that I want to split, I hit `OK` and it takes me back to the cell menu. From that point I assume I'm suppose to hit the `Apply` button. But at that point it takes me back to the main startup page and I find that nothing has happened to the cell window. Have I done something wrong or what is the next step to actually split it?

Thanks.

[r0lZ]

In the Split window, you have to click "Mark" when you have found the right split point. As I've said, you can mark several split points in the same cell.

[MetateM]

In the Split window, you have to click "Mark" when you have found the right split point. As I've said, you can mark several split points in the same cell.

Yup, did that. My post was about after doing that.

So..

Opened the split window (Cell split mode);
Found my split point
Hit "OK" in that dialogue...which sends me
Back to the "Cells in title" dialogue.
Hit "Apply" (still only one cell in that dialogue)...which sends me
Back to the main page.

Nothings happened though..I'm just confused as to what I did wrong.

[r0lZ]

Ah, OK! You have to press PROCESS!! and then reload the DVD to do your other edits.

[MetateM]

Ah, OK! You have to press PROCESS!! and then reload the DVD to do your other edits.

I can't really see the benefits of doing this. It seems like I'm doing the same thing as before by cutting, processing or splitting, processing. What's the benefit?

Thanks!

[r0lZ]

When you use split, you can add as many split points as you want. When you cut, you can cut only one part per cell. That's all the difference.
In a first run, you can split your cells at all cut points, and cut in a second run. You can do the job in 2 runs.
If you use only the cuts, the number of runs depends of the number of cuts, but is usually higher than 2.

[blutach]

The split method is very elegant, since after the splits have been done, you can eliminate the unwanted cells easily in PgcEdit and then tidy up with a run in FixVTS.

Regards

[MetateM]

The split method is very elegant, since after the splits have been done, you can eliminate the unwanted cells easily in PgcEdit and then tidy up with a run in FixVTS.

Regards

Yea, after I blanked out the cells I didn't want, I burned it with DVD shrink and it caused havoc with my dvd player. Huge blank spots were created that kept me waiting for about 2 seconds. Are you saying I can remove those spots with PGCedit and FixVTS?

Any guides for doing so?

[blutach]

Use the remove cells feature in PgcEdit. Double click on the title and note the cell numbers you no longer want (these will have been created with the split function in VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm)).

Click on remove cells and follow the prompts to remove them. OK to get out. Then from the Tools menu, run FixVTS (Current domain).

If all this gets too hard, DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php) has a very nice cut feature.

Regards