Please use PowerDVD 7.3 !!

[Emon]

Everyone who's having playback issues with PowerDVD 6.5/7.1/7.2 .... please upgrade to PowerDVD 7.3.

Here are the list of bugs that got fixed in this release:


Subtitle stays off
U-Control in "King Kong" works now (the PIP window stays off)
Works in Vista (I never got 7.1/7.2 to work in Vista ..... I have a 7900 GT and I am using ForceWare v101.41)
Menu in "Lady in the Water" works
Menu in "Nacho Libre" works


So I am going to turn off the "nav chain" fix in BackupHDDVD and then rip some movies to see if this bug got fixed too or not.

[kuklitis]

It's all pretty impressive and vary good, but there is still one TREMENDOUS issue left why very big chunk of users there would be no good at all switching to 7.3 version - it plays at Full-HD only if you have whole chain of valid HDCP stuuf - videocard, drivers, cable and monitor ! :mad:

[Emon]

It's all pretty impressive and vary good, but there is still one TREMENDOUS issue left why very big chunk of users there would be no good at all switching to 7.3 version - it plays at Full-HD only if you have whole chain of valid HDCP stuuf - videocard, drivers, cable and monitor ! :mad:

You think so? How do you test for that? My setup defiantly not HDCP complaint and in plain eye I couldn't tell any difference.

[pahrtyTlix]

Correct me if I'm wrong but after using BackupHDDVD, AACS and thus HDCP isn't present anymore in the unencrypted EVO files hence it wouldn't be enforced by PowerDVD or any other player?

[Momotte]

neither do I, I am missing a HDCP compliant monitor in the chain and my decrypted backup look like they are playing in full HD... any way to verify that?

[kuklitis]

neither do I, I am missing a HDCP compliant monitor in the chain and my decrypted backup look like they are playing in full HD... any way to verify that?

Sauns very promissing ! I'm then gonna try out this 7.3 version on clean XP install, without HDCP monitor, but with HDCP videocard this weekend or early next week !
The reason for my concern was that I was reading across varios Doom9 forums posts that many users have this issue with ver 7.3 and downscaling ...

[Founditalso]

Next to the reasons Emon mentionned a very important reason for me to install 7.3 is that I have HD-DVD as well as Blu-Ray readers on the same system.
7.3 does allow to play both formats. With 7.2 and before one had to choose.
I am using 7.3 now on XP, but had some problems installing it.
Maybe my experience will help somebody:
I installed 7.3 over 7.2. The decrypted HD-DVD's and Blu-Ray's (files) played fine. The discs did not play at all. Black screens for HD-DVD as well as Blu-Ray discs in the drives.
Uninstalling and reinstalling 7.3 solved the problem for Blu-Ray discs but with HD-DVD there was still an issue with Powerdvd not wanting to play the disc because of non-compatibility of the system. It started playing (so no more black screen) but soon it stopped giving the message.
Running the Cyberlink advisor gave all green light so I am not sure what was wrong.
Installing AnyDVD HD solved the problem, so now I am able to play the decrypted files on disc as well as the discs themselves. Great!

[Blinx123]

Hi guys,
what about the NVIDIA PureVideo acceleration,which wasn´t working for many people in PowerDVD 7.2? Is this also fixed?

[Emon]

Hi guys,
what about the NVIDIA PureVideo acceleration,which wasn´t working for many people in PowerDVD 7.2? Is this also fixed?

"PureVideo acceleration" .. is that something you turn on in nVidia control panel? I will try that out after get home.

[markrb]

I don't know if it was the way I ripped it, but subs are still forced on in Superman Returns for me in 7.3.
Not a big deal as I can fix it easy enough.
Could just be me, but I thought I would report it.

Mark

[Manbearpig]

It's all pretty impressive and vary good, but there is still one TREMENDOUS issue left why very big chunk of users there would be no good at all switching to 7.3 version - it plays at Full-HD only if you have whole chain of valid HDCP stuuf - videocard, drivers, cable and monitor ! :mad:


hmmmm... i dont think so...im using powerdvd 7.3 to play a ripped version of my Terminator 2 blu-ray, and if i capture a screenshot the size of the pic is 1920*1080.

[Zotty]

So I am going to turn off the "nav chain" fix in BackupHDDVD and then rip some movies to see if this bug got fixed too or not.

Very interrested in the results!

[sjchmura]

Has anyone confirmed this? I do not want to drop $100 unless this works. My 7800GTX with DVI-> HDMI is NOT chain secure (xfx left this off my card). As I understand it this makes it a 960x540 player that "upscales" in fullscreen back to 1920x1080p

[Turtleggjp]

My biggest grief is that it doesn't work on my laptop with .EVO files. It complains about my graphics card and drivers (Intel integrated graphics). I have been trying it with some of the .EVO trailers I found online. If I demux them, it will play the video streams without any trouble, so my Core 2 Duo 1.66 GHz can handle it. In fact, CPU usage is often above 50%, so I am happy to see it using both cores.

I have no problem with it being protective like this when playing back HD-DVDs, but I agree that once decrypted, all the restrictions should be gone, and it should just work.

Matt

[Galileo2000]

I had a lot of problems on my HTPC with 7.3.

But since Emon says so, I'll do a clean XP install and try it again.

Edit: No can do. Tried 6(sic!) times in a row to install a fresh copy of XP on the separate partition, XP SP2 slipstream, SP1 slipstream etc. After the first reboot of XP it destroys my main partition with the dreadful "Disk read error. Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart".
I have 500GB Seagate SATA HDD with 4 partitions and trying to install a clean XP on the second or third.
Another M$ bug, Web is full of complaints. Strangely I've never seen it before, must be SATA-only related.

Thanks God I have Acronis backup.

I "might" use my second HTPC with the IDE, but it's no good for me since it will never be my HD DVD machine.

[ruva]

I got a problem with 7.3 release: I see only a part of the movie (upper left) and badly zoomed as well.

Anyone got a solution ?

ruva

[K40]

I installed 7.3 today and it's working with my D950 3.4Ghz
Dualcore and the MSI 7600 GT HDCP G.Card.
I played decrypted HDDVD and BluRay movies.
It seems that together with the 100.87 Driver for XP 1080p24 is working much better now.
Sadly,the color banding in some movies is the same as before.

[prOnorama]

I couldn't tell any difference.

I think HD DVD content gets downscaled (mandatory as per industry specs) to 960 x 540 on devices which don't support HDCP. The reason you might not notice it is because your software player upscales it again so it looks like full resolution.

[Galileo2000]

I think HD DVD content gets downscaled (mandatory as per industry specs) to 960 x 540 on devices which don't support HDCP. The reason you might not notice it is because your software player upscales it again so it looks like full resolution.

Holy cow, I bet u r right.

Any good way to test it?

[IanD]

Holy cow, I bet u r right.

Any good way to test it?
Have a look at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123395

The results are still not completely conclusive yet, one way or the other.

My suspicion is that the results are highly dependent on the graphics card used (not just whether HDCP compatible, but also whether in Cyberlink's compatibility list).

Unless PDVD 7.3 removes some of the hardware checking, I doubt I would be able to get it working with my ATI X300 which wouldn't work with PDVD 7.1 but does with PDVD 6.5 (albeit possibly down-res'd), so it isn't a matter of the graphics card's technical ability that is the stumbling block, but more likely what Cyberlink in their wisdom permit to work.

[IanD]

I think HD DVD content gets downscaled (mandatory as per industry specs) to 960 x 540 on devices which don't support HDCP. The reason you might not notice it is because your software player upscales it again so it looks like full resolution.
There is enough variation in results that it is difficult to tell what is happening at the moment.

960x540p is still a respectable resolution and better than DVD, so you would probably notice a difference, but without a genuine 1920x1080p image side-by-side for comparison I'm not sure how one could tell whether one was actually seeing a full 1920x1080 quality presentation. It might require 2 setups feeding identical monitors, where one player is known to absolutely output the full 1920x1080p.

[Galileo2000]

Have a look at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123395

The results are still not completely conclusive yet, one way or the other.

My suspicion is that the results are highly dependent on the graphics card used (not just whether HDCP compatible, but also whether in Cyberlink's compatibility list).

Unless PDVD 7.3 removes some of the hardware checking, I doubt I would be able to get it working with my ATI X300 which wouldn't work with PDVD 7.1 but does with PDVD 6.5 (albeit possibly down-res'd), so it isn't a matter of the graphics card's technical ability that is the stumbling block, but more likely what Cyberlink in their wisdom permit to work.

OK, I give up.

My 6.5 works pefectly and I am NOT wasting my time and my marvelous setup anymore until Cyberlink puts its stuff together.

See you all at PDVD 8.0.

[talon95]

Yea, I seem to be getting the "Incompatible graphics driver error" with PDVD 7.3 despite the Advisor being all green. The only reason I can use it is AnyDVDHD. With AnyDVDHD running, it works fine.

Sadly 6.5 and 7.1 worked fine.

[Blinx123]

What about Analog output? Does it play in Full Res when I´m using a VGA D-SUB cable?

[Mike89]

Where are you all seeing a version 7.3?

The latest version I'm seeing is 7.0.2410.0

I have the Deluxe version.

[Emon]

Where are you all seeing a version 7.3?

The latest version I'm seeing is 7.0.2410.0

I have the Deluxe version.

Here ...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6258/capturead5.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturead5.jpg)

[Emon]

Very interrested in the results!

The backup of "Lucky # Slevin" played fine without the "nav fix" in 7.3!!

[bob0r]

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/products/main_112_ENU.html

http://mirror05.x264.nl/public/pdvd7.3.gif

[Mike89]

The Cyberlink website is sure hush about any version other than 7.

I've been scanning that website since reading this thread and saw no references to a 7.3.

When I opened the 7.0 Deluxe version and clicked on 'Upgrade', it took me to the patch which was the version 7.0.2410.0.

Edit: The link just provided also does not say anything about a version 7.3. Evidently this version must just be for the "Ultra" version. Maybe this thread should have stated as exclusive to the Ultra version so as not to cause confusion for people that have the other versions (where there is no version 7.3).

[Emon]

The Cyberlink website is sure hush about any version other than 7.

I've been scanning that website since reading this thread and saw no references to a 7.3.

When I opened the 7.0 Deluxe version and clicked on 'Upgrade', it took me to the patch which was the version 7.0.2410.0.

Edit: The link just provided also does not say anything about a version 7.3. Evidently this version must just be for the "Ultra" version. Maybe this thread should have stated as exclusive to the Ultra version so as not to cause confusion for people that have the other versions (where there is no version 7.3).

You are right. So the PowerDVD Ultra is basically is at version 7.3. (I think)

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/answerbox_productfaq.jsp?FID=4356&nProdId=1

[zeroprobe]

can people find keys through 7.3???

[Mike89]

What do you mean "find keys"?

If you purchased PowerDVD 7, you will have the key which will work for all version 7s of which PowerDVD you bought (either Standard, Deluxe, Ultra, etc).

If you went to a higher whole version number (like 8, or went to a higher PowerDVD, like say Standard to Deluxe), then you would need to purchase it again.

[awhitehead]

can people find keys through 7.3???

If you mean the Volume Unique Keys for HD-DVDs, just use the aacskeys (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=968972) program. As far as I know, if PowerDVD exposes title or volume keys in memory, technique to extract them was never publically disclosed.

[erikt]

I found another reason to use 7.3 instead of 7.2. You can launch PDVD 7.3 from the command line and provide the DISCID.DAT file as an argument and the HD DVD will play correctly. Now I can integrate my HD DVD library into my HTPC front-end.

Cheers,
erikt

[Momotte]

I found another reason to use 7.3 instead of 7.2. You can launch PDVD 7.3 from the command line and provide the DISCID.DAT file as an argument and the HD DVD will play correctly. Now I can integrate my HD DVD library into my HTPC front-end.

Cheers,
erikt

thanks for the tip...

[zeroprobe]

I mean can you still find the VUKs in 7.3

[HDLife]

How does that look front end and what did you put in your DiscAT.dat file?

[slow4mula]

You are right. So the PowerDVD Ultra is basically is at version 7.3. (I think)

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/answerbox_productfaq.jsp?FID=4356&nProdId=1


hmm i bought powerdvd ultra 7.1/7.2 on jan 16, but i can't find anywhere to download 7.3 and use the key I already bought...

[Emon]

Alright here's what I found out. Both 6.5 and 7.3 behaves the same way after turning off the "nav fix".

If "nav fix" is turned off .. then you'll get stuttering when you play individual evo files. But if you play the movie using the option "play movie from HD", it will play fine.

If "nav fix" is turned on .. then both of these playback options will work fine.

[dmz01]

What is this "nav fix" and how do I toggle it?

[CapFuture]

Yea, I seem to be getting the "Incompatible graphics driver error" with PDVD 7.3 despite the Advisor being all green. The only reason I can use it is AnyDVDHD. With AnyDVDHD running, it works fine.

Sadly 6.5 and 7.1 worked fine.

I am the 3rd one w/ this crazy bug. I mean they say the advisor is only some 'beta-stuff' and not reliable but anyway it says GREEN to all of my options?!? But in Discmode (when playing a HD) it comes up w/ this failure message "Incompatible graphics driver error".

With PDVD 7.1 the advisor said orange for the nvidia 8800GTX driver, but it ran the HDs without any probs.

Hey come on who wants to explain this!?!
Anyway. The backups are running great :)

Best regards,
Cap

[HD><Blu]

I got a problem with 7.3 release: I see only a part of the movie (upper left) and badly zoomed as well.

Anyone got a solution ?

ruva

Hi! ruva

I had exactly same problem as you. I did solve the problem by installing a fresh copy of winxp.

CU

[ddeell72]

PowerDVD 7.3 is very nice! Many problums fixed!:devil:

[awhitehead]

Hi! ruva

I had exactly same problem as you. I did solve the problem by installing a fresh copy of winxp.

CU


Supposedly graphic problems like this are caused by AA settings in the Nvidea driver, or by screen resolution being cranked too high (above 1920 * 1080)

Maybe it's worth disabling AA and other fancy video driver features first, before reinstalling.

[Traehuert Mada]

Would it be worth upgrading from PDVD 5.0, which (might I add) I can reinstall from any of the various CD's that came with our many video cards, to something like 7.2 if I'm only playing plain-old DVD's (factory made, + & - formats) and ripped DVD's (original discs in cases and stored for easy access for viewing on the TV) from the hard drive?

[ACrowley]

On my Ati x800xt AGP, PowerDVD 6.5 HDDVD is the only one which is working .
Full HDDVDs from disc are not starting after the intro.
But single evos works perfct.

7.3 gives a Error Message "wrong Driver" bla bla
With Catalyst 7.2 its ok, but i have a green picture.

Waiting for Cat 7.3 and hope it helps.
Actually is use the Decoder .ax Files from PowerDVDUltra 7.3 (overwrite the 6.5 .ax)

[qtx999]

neither do I, I am missing a HDCP compliant monitor in the chain and my decrypted backup look like they are playing in full HD... any way to verify that?


just enable information within powerdvd ..it'll show a black box on your screen with stats including your video speed

you'll see by the stream speed if it's decoding HD

[Emon]

just enable information within powerdvd ..it'll show a black box on your screen with stats including your video speed

you'll see by the stream speed if it's decoding HD

totally forgot about that. Thanks for the pointer!!