backuphddvd + Powerdvd 7.3 Ultra deluxe??

[hajj_3]

has powerdvd 7.3 fixed problems that people were having with subtitles being forced on, jerky playback and non-working menu's or are these problems the fault of backuphddvd and still do not work?

[blutach]

This may be a playback issue. Until we can eliminate decryption as its source, I'll keep the thread here. But perhaps a search of the software players sub-forum may yield results.

Regards

[honai]

Just tried it with a backup of Corpse Bride (Blu-ray, VC-1, DD 5.1 EX) playing over a network share, worked like a charm, didn't work with previous version 7.2.

Also, it seems this version integrates all the previous distributions, i.e. it plays DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray all-in-one.

[hajj_3]

we cant be sure of the cause at the moment, but hopefully powerdvd 7.3 might have fixed the problems, could do with some people to try out the new version. ive heard reports that 7.3 wont let you use dvi to your tv now due to the hdcp on powerdvd 7.3, even when using a dvi to hdmi cable.

[Galileo2000]

7.3 was installed on my HTPC on March 9.

Deinstalled 6.5 and then refused to play any of my HD DVDs (black screen, system freeze, then message "..encountered a problem and needs to shut down"..

With and without AnyDVD HD being active.

Needless to say it was gone very quickly and 6.5 backup was restored.

My system:
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8Ghz - > 3.29 Ghz
Asus P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi
XFX 7800GT nvidia 97.91 drivers
2x1GB G.Skill DDR667 PC800 RAM
Seagate 500GB SATA II HDD

[hajj_3]

you need to test it on a clean install really galileo, you could try it on vmware or virtual pc

[shpitz]

7.3 was installed on my HTPC on March 9.

Deinstalled 6.5 and then refused to play any of my HD DVDs (black screen, system freeze, then message "..encountered a problem and needs to shut down"..


afaik all the v7 ultra versions have hdcp enabled while 6.5 isn't, so if your pc is not hdcp-compliant (video card, video drivers, monitor) then it will not play.

v6.5 works fine regardless of hdcp.

[hajj_3]

i know a guy who has it working via dvi with 7.2, but 7.3 it wont work.

[jkenzie]

7.3 seems to have an install problem when switching from earlier versions. The first time I installed it I got the 1013 error using a 7800gt to vga.
I then uninstalled it and reinstalled and it worked fine. No errors no playback issue's.
One thing of note, after the reinstall it detected all three of my drive, where it didn't the first time.
I ran through this process twice and it was the same scenario both times.
So if you having problems with 7.3 I would start by trying a reinstall.

[Galileo2000]

you need to test it on a clean install really galileo, you could try it on vmware or virtual pc

I will at some point, unless Cyberlink will release 7.4 before long.

vmware and virtualpc don't excite me, I want all things real to eliminate all the non-relevant issues.

I might do a new clean install of XP SP2 just for the purpose of testing Cyberlink software.

I am not on the Cyberlink beta program, and I need to explain to the she who must obey why did I spent all this money on the "new" HTPC #8 and all those HD DVD movies.

My reasoning was: "Honey, it will be just like in the movie theater. No, it will be better than in the movie theater".

"We are having technical difficulties at that time" is not a good answer.

[awhitehead]

and I need to explain to the she who must obey

:) I wish mine was that way.

I've not looked at PowerDVD 7 yet myself, however a friend of mine bought 7.2 Ultra when it was just released, and called me an hour later, all puzzled, why he was getting blue and black lines and nothing else. This was before the problem with video acceleration was well known, so we spent two hours trying to figure out what was going on. He was not amused at all, and I decided to stick with WinDVD.

So in my mind Cyberlink doesn't have a good track history with HD playback.

Then again, not like Cyberlink is the only one guilty of doing stupid things. Apple. F&*&^$ Apple. There are very few DVD players for Mac OS X and the one Apple bundles with OS doesn't decrypt DTS streams at all. AC3 - aok. DTS - silence. After a friend visited Macau, and brought me a ton of Chinese/Hong Kong movies, I was very puzzled why it is that I can't get any audio out of them.

Yes, I know that AC3 is mandatory, and DTS is optional in the DVD spec, but c'mon, this is 2006, pay the license fee, bundle a DTS decoder. But no.

[blutach]

Yes, I know that AC3 is mandatory, and DTS is optional in the DVD spec,Only in NTSC-land.

Discs containing 525/60 (NTSC) video must use PCM or Dolby Digital on at least one track. Discs containing 625/50 (PAL/SECAM) video must use PCM or MPEG audio or Dolby Digital on at least one track. Additional tracks may be in any format.

Regards

[dvdboy]

has powerdvd 7.3 fixed problems that people were having with subtitles being forced on, jerky playback and non-working menu's or are these problems the fault of backuphddvd and still do not work?

I can confirm that 7.3 doesn't force on subtitles, which I was experiencing with 7.2 and the Mission Impossible boxset.

[snipper_cr]

With these problems relating to Power DVD 7.x and HDCP... does AnyDVD HD do anything to help?

shpitz says that if you do not have HDCP complient hardware that PDVD7.x will not play but 6.5 will. Or do you need PDVD6.5 AND AnyDVD HD to play the discs on non HDCP complient hardware?
(first post after lurking for a few months)

[awhitehead]

With these problems relating to Power DVD 7.x and HDCP... does AnyDVD HD do anything to help?

shpitz says that if you do not have HDCP complient hardware that PDVD7.x will not play but 6.5 will. Or do you need PDVD6.5 AND AnyDVD HD to play the discs on non HDCP complient hardware?
(first post after lurking for a few months)

You don't need AnyDVD HD to play back HD-DVDs on non-HDCP compliant hardware using PowerDVD 6.5. Why would you? However as doom9 mentioned in his posts, both PowerDVD and WinDVD are overzealous in such situations, and downscale content even if ICH bit is not set.

[hajj_3]

I can confirm that 7.3 doesn't force on subtitles, which I was experiencing with 7.2 and the Mission Impossible boxset.

good news, hope people who had issues with 7.2 can try with 7.3 on a clean install, hopefully everyone will migrate to this nice new version if all the problems were fixed.

[bass4040]

Anyone know if the Discovery Atlas hd-dvd's that weren't working in PD and standalone players is working with 7.3?

[blutach]

Keys were posted for them today bass4040. Try them out.

Regards

[frogman]

i know a guy who has it working via dvi with 7.2, but 7.3 it wont work.

Agree I also had to remove 7.3 because of the black screen output useing dvi to hdmi and also dvi to vga. When in dual monitor mode.

If my second monitor is turn off or deactivated dvi to vga I got to see movie.
Video Card ATI 1950 256 mb. Anyway I went back to 7.2 and all is well.
btw: I managed to remove subtitle on play back from 7.2.
The trick is to have a dual install of 7.2 ie HD DVD version and Blu-Ray version. After that the sub just faded away.
Also both my monitors are HDCP "green" via cyberlink test.

[awhitehead]

Anyone know if the Discovery Atlas hd-dvd's that weren't working in PD and standalone players is working with 7.3?

Basically two of the Discovery Atlas titles are authoried using Standard Content Authoring (Discover Atlas Australia and Italy), and two are authoried using Advanced Content Authoring (Discover Atlas China and Brazil) (At least the US versions that I bought through amazon.com).

If you use BackupHDDVD, it has problems with standard authoring. You might have to copy the contents of the disk undecrypted to the hard drive first, rename aacs/VTKF.AACS to aacs/VTKF000.AACS, and decrypt the copy that you copied to the hard drive. Then there is no encryption, and it just works. DumpHD should just work.

aacskeys also just works on these disks, generating VUKs that validatevuk confirms are correct.

[RulerOf]

Just tried it with a backup of Corpse Bride (Blu-ray, VC-1, DD 5.1 EX) playing over a network share, worked like a charm, didn't work with previous version 7.2.

It did, actually, but you had to map the share to a drive. For some reason 7.2 just refused to read them properly out of shares but would handle the backup right as long as it wasn't behind a UNC. At any rate, of course, a 7.3 upgrade solves that as you say, but for anyone still using 7.2, map the share.