Silent Hill, R1. Weird green screen at beginning of main title.

[JFerguson]

The Setup:


Source was Silent Hill R1 ripped via DVD Decrypter v3.5.4.0 (Mode, ISO, Read), with all Remove options enabled under "ISO Read Mode" settings (e.g., Remove IFO Structure Protection, etc.). AnyDVD v6.1.1.4 was enabled on source DVD-ROM drive during ripping with "Copy Protection based on unreadable Sectors" option enabled. ISO image file was mounted via Daemon Tools v3.47.
No preprocessing was performed.
DVD Rebuilder Professional Edition v1.21



The Anomaly:

DVD-RB produces this very short "green screen" segment at the beginning of the main title. Here's a picture of it:

http://www.chicagophoto.net/blackhole/Doom9/SilentHill.png

I've seen this a few times recently, probably just with the newer Sony titles. You can see this in DVD Shrink v3.2 preview when you load up the files and select the Main Movie. I'll dump a snapshot here from VobBlanker, where one can see it by loading up the first cell of the main movie titleset.

It's very short (subsecond) but I do sometimes see it flash during playback. It is not present in the original mounted .ISO file.

[setarip_old]

As I stated in your other thread, I'd strongly suggest you try changing your ripping methodology to using ONLY the "RipIt4Me" package of programs...

[steptoe]

Might be a silly question, but if you are using DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD together have you got all the settings right


You should have the 'General/Check for structure protection' turned off, also the 'CSS/CSS Cracking method' should be set to 'None'

And the most important the 'I/O' should be set to 'ElbyCDIO'


These were suggested by the guy who writes AnyDVD so that DVD Decrypter does the excellant job of ripping, while AnyDVD does the actual work of stripping the protections

[linx05]

It sounds like he has:

(e.g., Remove IFO Structure Protection, etc.)

[jdobbs]

I'll take a look at that disc. I seem to recall looking at a cell like that once. A single orphaned frame existed at the very start of the first cell of a PGC (following a section of remnant garbage video). I thought I'd added some code to recognize it and strip it off -- but that was a while ago...

[Fishman0919]

As setarip_old stated, try using RipIt4Me...... I was able to produce the "Green Screen" with AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter but not with RipIt4Me.... so something with AnyDVD and removing the Sony copy-protection for that movie is doing it.

[jdobbs]

I understand... but I'd much rather keep DVD-RB updated so it doesn't depend on FixVTS to operate. Not that there's anything wrong with FixVTS -- I just don't want to create a forced dependency there.

[linx05]

@ JFerguson and Co.
You might want to also send a report off to Slysoft. Make sure you try the latest BETA (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1376) and see if that works for you.

[Fishman0919]

I understand... but I'd much rather keep DVD-RB updated so it doesn't depend on FixVTS to operate. Not that there's anything wrong with FixVTS -- I just don't want to create a forced dependency there.

Sorry jdobbs, my answer was more directed towards JFerguson and not you.... but yes AnyDVD should handle this correctly but when it doesn't having DVD-RB correct it would be best.

[JFerguson]

Might be a silly question, but if you are using DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD together have you got all the settings right


You should have the 'General/Check for structure protection' turned off, also the 'CSS/CSS Cracking method' should be set to 'None'

And the most important the 'I/O' should be set to 'ElbyCDIO'


These were suggested by the guy who writes AnyDVD so that DVD Decrypter does the excellant job of ripping, while AnyDVD does the actual work of stripping the protections

Well, I only have the CSS method setting as suggested, the others are at defaults and I can try changing them.

I don't like RipIt4Me because I like working with .ISOs.

I could contact the author, but the green segment isn't present in the original .ISO, just the DVD-RB output, so that probably wouldn't make sense.

I can strip the green screen out with VobBlanker, although the Cut point intervals are sometimes kind of big. The two or three times I've really looked at this (with Ifoedit v0.96), the segment is gone at lba 2 (yes, it is short). On my strip with VobBlanker, my option was to strip from lba 0-60...I just saved the project and then modified it with notepad to change it to 0-2. It did the strip; whether it actually used the setting I overrode, I don't know. I think it does, because on another one i did, the first cut point that VobBlanker offered was at or in the opening studio sequence, so I did the same override there and the output was perfect.

Hope this helps...

[JFerguson]

Haven't seen this happen in a while, but just caught one today.

Curse of the Golden Flower, R1. Using version 1.25.0. Another Sony title, of course, with wacky IFO structure, etc. etc...

[steptoe]

You might find using a newer version of AnyDVD will improve things as that disc may have been updated in newer releases of AnyDVD as you're using quite an old version

AnyDVD is now on 6.1.5.1 and has quite a few improvements, and specific fixes for certain titles, plus the fact is now handles HD and BlueRay


Also, in DVD Decrypter you need to untick the box to disable that function via the settings in DVD Decrypter

General
Check For Structure Protection

CSS Cracking Method
None


And also make sure you have the following set

I/O
ElbyCDIO - Elaborate Bytes


These settings were suggested by the guys that write AnyDVD so that DVD Decrypter does the ripping, but AnyDVD does the actual protection removal, and this is what I use


I've had a couple of discs that went screwy after ripping, but that was my error and forgetting to enable AnyDVD. Ripping again with it enabled fixed that problem




I also have set ALL the options to remove any DVD restrictions that prevent you from skipping straight to the title or menu, and let you fast forward any motion menus as some drag on far too long

[JFerguson]

Yeah, I'm current on AnyDVD and the recommended settings. Ripped this about a week ago with 6.1.4.3.

The other thing that is weird, and I know Shrink is a different animal and all, but when I pulled DVD-RB's output into Shrink, the 5.1 language tracks read in at about 180MB each, which isn't right.

When I run the DVD-RB output through VoBBlanker (to strip the green screen), they read in at around 370MB each, which seems more accurate...