DVD RB PROf.

[EuropeanMan]

I have been using the guide for DVD9--> DVD5 with DVD Rebuilder Prof using CCE/SP for some time now (located in the guide's forum for doom9). I have had other people say that these days DVD RB Prof is out-dated. That there are better solutions to make a DVD5's video/audio look/sound just like the original DVD9 quality.

My question is this...what software/process and/or filters do I need to use with my existing software, or any other software that I might need...so I can have better DVD5s that I am making now?

I am hoping this is the right area of discussion for this...please forgive me if I am mistaken...thank you. - Farooq

[buzzqw]

i have had other people say that these days DVD RB Prof is out-dated. That there are better solutions to make a DVD5's video/audio look/sound just like the original DVD9 quality.

i don't want to comment... but i hope you are ready to demostrate, put in evidence , make inconfutable your statement.

DVD-RB use the top-notch technology/software to build better dvd.

If you dislike the result try other encoder (hcenc/quenc/cce/procoder...) WITHIN DVD-RB and share your opinion

BHH

P.S. i am a proud DVD-RB PRO subscriber

[EuropeanMan]

I use DVD-RB Prof 1.2 with CCE/SP trial. Well, I wanted some opinions...I will keep with CCE/SP for the time-being unless someone suggest something better. Thank you for yours :)

[buzzqw]

i don't want to be rude... pardon me... but dvd-rb pro is very good program and frequently update.

I use too cce but sometimes expecially if the source is true progressive i use hcenc... very good resuts !

BHH

[jdobbs]

I'd just say "Name the other program or method."

If it uses CCE, ProCoder, or HC, it may be possible... but it if uses any other method than a full blown encoder (such as transcoding) I'd say it is all hype and no substance. In fact I'd be willing to admit that you can get similar results to DVD-RB if you did the big three method (which uses CCE)... it's just more complicated, takes more time to learn and execute, and requires an authoring package like Scenarist (which can be very, very expensive). Big three was actually around before DVD-RB and DVD-RB was developed as a method to get the same results in "one click".

People continue to use DVD-RB because they've compared it against other methods and frankly, those other methods fall short of their promises in terms of quality.

[dynospectrum]

P.S. i am a proud DVD-RB PRO subscriber

w00t! I finally got around to donating and getting the Pro version myself a couple weeks ago and I couldn't be happier. There's nothing better than DVD Rebuilder Pro in my opinion. Awesome support on forums, frequent updates like you mentioned and it utilizes the best encoders. Whether you're new to backing up DVDs or a seasoned veteran, DVD-RB Pro is where it's at!

Anyone who tells you that DVD-RB Pro is "outdated" obviously has no idea what they're talking about. They probably use DVDShrink or DVD2One and think it owns.

;)

[EuropeanMan]

I will upgrade to 1.21 DVDRBpro. :) But upgrading from CCE/SP trial to the full version...wow, it's expensive. Anyone have a free one? lol...j/k

Tx for the help...was hoping there might have been something better than what I was using...without having to resort to the Big3...
DVDRBpro 1.2, CCE/sp trial..is what i have. Only wondered if there was something spectacularly better

[steptoe]

Its not that expensive, you can buy the CCE Basic for $58 (about £38). It uses exactly the same encoding engine that was used in CCE SP. The only difference is that you cannot have more than 2-passes, but a lot of people are happy with 2-passes and even CCE say anymore than 2-passes doesn't make much difference to quality but does increase encoding time

Then again, some have said increasing the number of passes on high motion movies has made a difference, but for the majority of people 2-passes is a happy medium


Also, DVD-RB is better than transcoding as it actually re-encodes the source and rebuilds it from scratch, so matching the bitrate. This is why it takes much longer than transcoding, plus you can use avisynth filters to tweak your source, and I have used filters in the past to improve poor quality sources

You try to do that with transcoding

[archaeo]

I have had other people say that these days DVD RB Prof is out-dated. That there are better solutions to make a DVD5's video/audio look/sound just like the original DVD9 quality.


outdated...? RB pro is updated almost monthly, utilizes encoders (like CCE, HC) that are updated on a regular basis, and most of all - the programmer who has designed this software answers and responds to almost every question and concern that comes up in regard to his program. I don't know how anything with that level of support and attention can possibly be considered 'outdated'.

just my two cents :cool:

[therat]

I'm not sure what or who the "Big Three" are but I'm sure there probably are better programs out there than DVD-RB Pro however I'm equally sure that for the price, nothing comes near it.

If you want to pay a fortune then go right ahead but for the best balance of cost/quality then DVD-RB is hard to beat.

[sockeye]

I will upgrade to 1.21 DVDRBpro. :) But upgrading from CCE/SP trial to the full version...wow, it's expensive. Anyone have a free one? lol...j/k

Tx for the help...was hoping there might have been something better than what I was using...without having to resort to the Big3...
DVDRBpro 1.2, CCE/sp trial..is what i have. Only wondered if there was something spectacularly better

If you havn't already, try the HCEnoder that's included with DVDRB. Slower than CCE, and limited to 2 passes, but nice results. QuEnc is very worthy as well.
If time is the problem, just set up a batch conversion, and process at your convience.

[m1ckran]

As sockeye stated, try HcEnc before spending on CCE. Many people prefer HcEnc over CCE. You can use its default settings or employ custom matrices for different bitrates from within DVDRB Pro - but that's another story.

Also, try AutoQMatEnc. It automatically adapts its matrix when used with its QMatOp feature switched on. Google for its website.

I've no real experience of QuEnc but I know some people swear by it and, like the other encoders, it is subject to update from time to time.

I suggest you try each encoder on an identical excerpt then burn them all to a DVDRW for comparison on the big screen. I think you'll be surprised at how well the free encoders perform. I was - so much so that I made donations to the authors and I feel no need to buy CCE.

[joesmart]

i've seen the "big 3" mentioned before...just out of curiousity, what are the big 3? thanks.

BTW, absolutely love RB Pro. best money i've ever spent on software. Thank you jdobbs!

[Geekman]

I paid $150 years ago for the now defunct DVDXCopy that created many coasters and had abysmal technical support. Now I've spent less than $100 for tools that create excellent backups. I find DVD-RB Pro is a good educational tool since I have been learning about encoding, AVISynth, DVD Authoring.
Technical support is excellent and you can participate in the problem solving. jdobbs listens and responds!
My hats off to a great product.

[jdobbs]

I won't argue with that point at all. :D

[shrink0]

Hey all! just my 2 cents here... I've only been backing up about a year and used only DVDshrink and the newer R4Me. Although it worked fine and after a few coasters and substandard quality , I decided to finally try DVDRB Pro. I did have the free version and used it only a couple times ,you know it was taking to long to process...Boy was I a bonehead, this prog. rocks I'm telling ya!!!!!
just my 2 cents worth........:thanks:

[dragongodz]

QuEnc is very worthy as well.
thanks. its nice to be remembered. ;)

I've no real experience of QuEnc but I know some people swear by it and, like the other encoders, it is subject to update from time to time.
and infact 0.72 was already released and doesnt seem to be getting much in they way of negative feedback so far.

[LetOneRip]

I had been backing up my DVD's with Shrink and was looking for a way to start using professional quality encoders and re-authoring methods when DVD Rebuilder came along, now for people that say DVD-RB is great or it isn't, my impression of it is that is nothing more than a command shell for some of the best encoders available, and fortunately it *is* maintained as well as the programs it supports, offering great flexibility in this respect, and for me made using pro encoding possible without first getting a degree in batch programming and video compression and editing, if there is such a thing.

[linx05]

I had been backing up my DVD's with Shrink and was looking for a way to start using professional quality encoders and re-authoring methods when DVD Rebuilder came along, now for people that say DVD-RB is great or it isn't, my impression of it is that is nothing more than a command shell for some of the best encoders available, and fortunately it *is* maintained as well as the programs it supports, offering great flexibility in this respect, and for me made using pro encoding possible without first getting a degree in batch programming and video compression and editing, if there is such a thing.
If you really knew what DVD Rebuilder does you wouldn't call it a "command shell". It does a whole lot more. By calling it a command shell would be insulting.

[sockeye]

thanks. its nice to be remembered. ;)


and infact 0.72 was already released and doesnt seem to be getting much in they way of negative feedback so far.
I would like to edit that from "very worthy as well", to, AWSOME!
Thankyou dragongodz for your hard work. It's much easier to use an encoder, than to develope one, and I, and many others, appreciate your work.

[ricardo.santos]

My question is this...what software/process and/or filters do I need to use with my existing software, or any other software that I might need...so I can have better DVD5s that I am making now?


It wont compress menus just main movie but if youre interested in something "different" you can try DVDREASY (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/dvdreasy/).

[wmansir]

If you really knew what DVD Rebuilder does you wouldn't call it a "command shell". It does a whole lot more. By calling it a command shell would be insulting.

I agree, but it is easy for people to over look the actual REBUILDING part because it requires little user input and works so well as to appear trivial.

[m1ckran]

It wont compress menus just main movie but if youre interested in something "different" you can try DVDREASY (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/dvdreasy/).

Erm.. I always produce movie-only backups so I'm not absolutely certain about this point, but I was under the impression that DVDRB Pro can, in fact, compress menus if you want it to. DVDRB seems to be more versatile than many people realise.

I'd also like to echo sokeye's remarks to DragonGodz regarding QuEnc. Just because I don't use QuEnc (you can't use them all) doesn't mean I don't appreciate and admire the work that goes into this product and others like it. Thank you.

[ricardo.santos]

Erm.. I always produce movie-only backups so I'm not absolutely certain about this point, but I was under the impression that DVDRB Pro can, in fact, compress menus if you want it to.


I did say "It wont compress menus just main movie but if youre interested in something "different" you can try DVDREASY."

[writersblock29]

@richardo.santos

It's always good to have choices. Actually, you're both right: DVD Rebuilder Professional allows for menu re-encoding, while the free version does not. Some (myself included) rarely use this feature in Pro because many menus are pretty on-the-edge already and have pixel dance that looks like it came off a disco ball if you were to try re-encoding them. But, "Eye of the beholder," and all that stuff.

Cheers!

[ruedas]

If you really knew what DVD Rebuilder does you wouldn't call it a "command shell". It does a whole lot more. By calling it a command shell would be insulting.

Actually he intented to insult. He tried to reduce DVD-RB to something as small as an interface or a front-end. Or a scripting tool. First of all a command shell as good as DVD-RB would require a lot of knowledge to design.

DVD-RB is the best and will always stay that way. I'll personally support your donation if you find something better than this. Its not just only as good as its encoders. Its much much better than that. Its not about the integration. Its about the reliability of the product. Its about all the updates in time you get. Its about always listening to the end-user and adapting to fullfill new needs. No other products get ever close to that. Its not a front-end. Its not a command shell. Is not only a tool. Its a complete solution to all your dvd encoding needs. And its open enough to outdate the encoders-transcoders and always be on top.