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MaxPowers
20th January 2007, 13:55
Hellooo everyone!

I have a digibox from Telenet (Belgium), the only exits are 2 scarts...

and because the digibox serial and the smartcards number are coupled and activated it's impossible to use the smartcard in another device (at least thats what they say, can't try it...)

I know it's very stupid: digital - analog - digital, but it's probably the only way to protect the original digital content...

so I connected the digibox to my pc's Prolink Pixelview PlayTv Pro card (BT878 chipset) though a scart adaptor http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc507/th_00730_105633_122_507lo.jpg that makes it possible to connect it to the S-Video exit on my tv-card,

(I can choose the signal output of my two scart outputs:
scart 1 can be set to: RGB, SVHS or CVBS,
scart 2 can be set to: SVHS or CVBS)

by doing that I can watch it by any software, I use WinDVR 3 (anyone suggestion for better software? My Pc: AMD athlon XP 2400+, 1GB DDR400 ram, Win XP Pro sp2)

The Problem:
when I hit record, suddently video gone and only noise... like no signal, same thing if I use Composite video connection...
CORRECTION: plugged also the coax-cable into tv-card, and apparently when I try to record on S-Video, it switches to tuner and records analog...

this also happens with Virtual Dub and the original software of my tv-card... but I think it has to do with the software/drivers, cause with nothing connected same phenomena (I think...)

but it works with DScaler, but then I only get a resolution of 720x576 (PAL) by using these settings: Full height (interlaced) (the other settings (which are faster) only render heightresolution of 288...), but if I record then with DivX codec (latest) then only black image... using 3ivX codec gives good video, but after few seconds of movement everything gets blurry... tried different settings, no luck yet...

can anyone explain the logic behind this and tell me what software to use and which settings for codec to record best live tv stream (analog)?

kind of in a hurry, since I get the first 3 weeks all channels for free ;-)

many thanks in advance...

Regards

MaxPowers
22nd January 2007, 13:19
Problem solved:

seems to be a hardware problem, cause when I use a Philips SAA7130 tv-card it works just fine (recording S-Video)

MaxPowers
24th January 2007, 21:04
PROBLEM - INFO ?

So now I'm using a cheap tv-card I bought on eBay for $9,99: Buster Tv Card Philips 7130, cause I can record S-Video with it (that tv-card sucks though: when tuning analog coax tv cable the tuning of the video does not match tuning of the audio, so when I've got good video, the audio is all scrambled noise (like not tuned)), the quality is ok, but I can see some vertical lines... look: http://img162.imagevenue.com/loc384/th_68557_screencap_122_384lo.jpg (http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68557_screencap_122_384lo.jpg) (but on high motion video not very noticeable)

is that because of my cheap tv-card? or they way that it's connected? (I can change the output settings of the Digibox to RGB, SVHS and CVBS) when I connect it with the Composite cable (CVBS) I don't seem to have those vertical lines, but more flickering (specially the text in menu's)

RGB does not work, are there any tv-cards that support RGB and even have a scart connection? what tv-card and connection would be the best?

any help very much appreciated...

MaxPowers
26th January 2007, 13:50
I don't know why I'm still posting here... since no one replies...

but still...

The specifications of the Digibox:
Video: MPEG-2 MP@ML
Video rate: 1.5 - 15 Mbit/s
720x576

so when I capture with analog pci tv-card, what Bit-rate should I use?

I recorded with InterVideo WinDVR:

[PAL DVD_6000]
Format: MPEG-2 DVD

Audio:
Format: MPEG-1 Layer II
Sampling Rate: 48.0 kHz 16-bit Stereo
Bit Rate: 224 KBits/sec

Video:
Size: 720x576
Frame Rate: 25.00 frames/sec
Bit Rate: 6000 KBits/sec

Total:
Bit Rate: 6467 KBits/sec

which is allready a lower bit-rate than its standard PAL DVD profile (which is 7200 KBits/sec !!!)

but a 2 hour movie at 6000 KBits/sec is allready 5.3 GB... so it doesn't fit a single layer dvd... so logically that bitrate is far too high, cause it's higher than dvd quality (when considering the size...)

another thing: in TMPGEnc MPEG Editor it says the video is VBR (constant quality), Maximum 9799 Kbps !!! (recorded at 6000 KBits/sec)

someone?

thanks in advance,

Regards

MaxPowers
29th January 2007, 14:52
did some research:

1 byte = 8 bits

1024 kilobytes = 1 MB

so 15 Mbits/sec or 15.000 Kbits/sec = 1875 Kbytes/sec

so the Digibox supports video with a minimum of 1500 kbits/sec and a maximum of 15.000 kbits/sec

I don't know how tv-stations work, they probably don't play the dvd's ;-) ?
(does anyone know how they get the releases and how they broadcast them?)

so if the orginal video being broadcasted is a DVD-9, it would probably be advised to use a bitrate of at least 7200 kbits/sec, and if it's a DVD-5 a bitrate of 5000 kbits/sec should be sufficient, right?

so I'm going to conclude to use a bitrate of 6000 kbits/sec (at least)