Oversizing Issues...

[Warbucks81]

Hello,

I'm having some oversizing issues. It seems no matter what the source is, the output continues to be oversized. I've tried a few different movies, all ripped with Ripit4me & fixvts. I'm using DVD-RB Pro v1.20.4, and CCE 2.7.2.10. Fresh installation of windows and all of the programs as well. Thanks for your help.

Here is "The General's Daugther" Log.


[12:04:06] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.20.4
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- CCE 2.70.2.10 encoder selected.
- "Movie and Menus Only" mode is enabled.
- Audio remapping mode is enabled.
- Source: THE GENERAL'S DAUGHTER
- VTS_01: 5 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 1 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 5 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 1 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 5 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 1 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 3,042,837 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 161,178 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 5 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 1 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 5 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 1 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 76.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,068Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,989,028KB
- Blanking all EXTRA Segments
-- Feature before/after: 0 / 0 Kbs
[12:06:15] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 2 minutes.
[12:06:15] Phase II ENCODING started
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 0
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_02 segment 0
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_03 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 1
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- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 26
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_04 segment 27
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_04 segment 28
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_04 segment 29
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_05 segment 0
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_06 segment 0
[13:05:19] Phase II ENCODING completed in 59 minutes.
[13:05:19] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_02
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_03
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_04
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 3 CELLID 1
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
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- Rebuilding seg 20 VOBID 14 CELLID 1
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- Rebuilding seg 21 VOBID 15 CELLID 1
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- Rebuilding seg 23 VOBID 16 CELLID 1
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- Audio_01 remapped to Audio_02
- Audio_03 remapped to Audio_02
- Audio_04 remapped to Audio_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_04_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_05
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_05_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_06
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_06_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[13:12:16] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 7 minutes.

Done.
[13:12:16] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 68 min.


And here is my rebuilder.ini.


[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=0
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
AudioDub=1
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=THE GENERAL'S DAUGHTER
DVD_Name=THE GENERAL'S DAUGHTER.ISO
MovieOnly=2
HalfD1=0000000
Convert_16_9=0000000
DisableInterlace=0000000
ConvertToYUY2=1
CCE=3
Skin=Rockas Original
CCE_Trial_Header="; Cinema Craft Enc. SP -- Encoder Control List"
RemoveDC=1
NewEditor=1
Completed=3
HalfD1Extras=0
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ReJig\ReJig.exe
HC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\HC Encoder\HCbatch.EXE
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\EclPro\EclPro.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=C:\DVDRB\
Output=C:\DVDRB-OUT\
CCENew=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctspt.exe
Source=C:\VOBOUT\THE GENERAL'S DAUGHTER\
[Audio]
Selected=010000000
Remapping=11222211
[Subpictures]
Selected=100
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

[Warbucks81]

I forgot to mention, The General's Daughter backup mode was Menu + Movie. I tried Fight Club using the same backup mode and it too was oversized. I then tried Fight Club with the backup mode set as "Movie Only" and it came out at 4.33gb, which is fine.

Thanks,

[Fishman0919]

try adding CCEAQM=1 to you rebuilder.INI file under the option part. It will help CCE SP with the sizing... do at less 3 passes.

[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=0
NoWarn=1
CCEAQM=1


PS Try turning on Menu Encoding

[jdobbs]

Are you preprocessing? Looking at your log it appears as though something has been done to the source -- as it isn't very common to see multiple VTSs that only occupy 5 sectors and consist of only one frame.

[Fishman0919]

When you rip the movie with Ripit4Me did you rip it in main movie mode or Menu and movie mode?

[Warbucks81]

When I ripped the movies with RipIt4Me, I ripped just the "Menu & Movie", then used vobblanker to blank the warnings etc...

[Fishman0919]

Try reripping the whole disc again then let DVD-RB do the rest, pick Menu-Movie mode with DVD-RB

[Jeff Mott]

I'm gonna change the subject real quick, then we can get back on track.

do at least 3 passesI think this should actually read, "Do at most 3 passes." Many extremely knowledgeable people could tell you that, for most encodes, there is no noticeable difference beyond 2 passes, and anything beyond 3 will certainly not show any improvement.


Okay. I'm done. Back to figuring out the oversizing thing. :)

[Fishman0919]

With CCEAQM=1 for CCE SP 2.70.## and CCE SP2... 3 passes works well for sizing on very high bitrate stuff and can help avoid encoder saturation.

[Jeff Mott]

And, Warbucks81, I agree with Fishman0919 that you should try the disc again but without VOB Blanker. The idea is simply to find out if VOB Blanker is somehow causing the trouble.

[Warbucks81]

okay I tried using CCEAQM=1, still getting the oversizing. Im re-ripping(full disc) one of the other movies I have, and I wont use vobblanker. I'll report once im done.

Thanks

[jdobbs]

You need to rip the entire disc. Then use DVD-RB to do "Movie and Menu" mode. Otherwise it just gets to a point at which neither I nor anyone else can predict what might happen -- let alone "why" it happens. There are too many variables involved when doing stripping with RipIt4Me (or any other preprocessing for that matter).

[Warbucks81]

Just wanted to let you guys know, that i've fixed the oversizing problem. In DVD-RB Pro, I changed the backup mode from "menu & movie only" to "Full Backup" and it seems to have fixed the oversizing.

[blutach]

VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) produces nice little MPEG2 compliant blanks.

That said, having a DVD rip which is already menus and movie, you can and should set it to Full Disk mode.

Movie only rips risk encoder saturation, especially for short movies.

Regards