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Blue_MiSfit
31st December 2006, 04:08
So I'm trying to backup my copy of Kids - and its a VERY crappy MPEG-2 encode. It looks like it came from a bad laserdisc or something...

Here http://www.mediafire.com/?bmizwmignzq is an M2V with force film (thankfully that part was easy).

As you can tell it's simply dreadful. LOTS of chroma noise, a good deal of luma chroma noise also, and some funky rainbows.

I've made some good progress with fft3dgpu with 1 call each for chroma and luma (Stronger chroma settings, and luma sharpening). Still, this movie compresses very badly. What do you guys think?

~MiSfit

rfmmars
31st December 2006, 04:56
Yes its bad but make it clear, what is your source, commerical DVD , Camcorder DVD, or your own made DVD from some source, its clear in your mind but I haven't a clue.

First and formost it was recoreded with too much contrast & brightness, its cliped which makes the other problems standout.

Richard
photorecall.net

PaulKroll
31st December 2006, 05:23
That film is $10.99 for the DVD at Amazon. And it's pretty clear you're talking about a copy you didn't make, so it's a pirated thing, and why are you really going to waste any time on a crappy copy when it's lunch money for the pristine original?

Blue_MiSfit
31st December 2006, 05:31
@paulkroll
Excuse me, I need to make a few things clear.

1) I own this DVD.
2) It is a commercial, pressed DVD.

Don't put words in my mouth please. It is not pirated.

@ rffmars - I agree, whoever did the mastering totally screwed it up. As I said, it looks like the original source was maybe a LaserDisc or similar analog format. The rainbows are particularly bad. It's offensive to me that a commerical DVD of this quality would be released.

~MiSfit

Revgen
31st December 2006, 05:39
Have you tried RemoveNoiseMC http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=110078

Blue_MiSfit
31st December 2006, 05:49
Not yet, I'll have to try it out. Looks like a good approach!

PaulKroll
31st December 2006, 05:55
@blue_misfit
My apologies. You seemed to be deliberately vague about the source, and saying "like it came from a bad laserdisc" implied you didn't know what the source was, and being a glass-half-empty guy, I assumed the worst. Sorry!

Revgen
31st December 2006, 06:02
Not yet, I'll have to try it out. Looks like a good approach!

Be careful, it's slow.:D

I figured you tried everything else already.

foxyshadis
31st December 2006, 06:05
That film is $10.99 for the DVD at Amazon. And it's pretty clear you're talking about a copy you didn't make, so it's a pirated thing, and why are you really going to waste any time on a crappy copy when it's lunch money for the pristine original?

Although it's very comforting to think that all commercial DVDs are mastered better than piracy, all it takes is borrowing a friend's pirated DVD to compare to your own new, official, terrible copy, and seeing how much better his looks, to completely lose all faith in movie studios. What's sad is how often that happens to classic older movies just because they're no longer blockbusters. (The bad quality, that is; I'll give you that pirated DVDs are rarely good quality, let alone better than commercial.)

Back on topic, this looks like one of those many situations when finding another region copy is your only hope for a really good transfer. The canvas-like vertical noise is so heavy it'd probably fake out mvdegrain pretty well. Something interesting you'll notice in the histogram: There's a small amount of BTB and WTW in there, so if you want to get at it, you might want to use a levels(13,1,240,16,235,false) to get at it, and reduce the clipping a bit.

Blue_MiSfit
31st December 2006, 07:41
BTB / WTW? Sorry foxyshadis, you've lost me! :)

My best guess is black to black / white to white. Maybe you can explain?

It is a really poor source, I might end up just doing an ISO backup.

@paulkroll

No worries. Thanks for the words.

foxyshadis
31st December 2006, 08:10
Blacker than Black, Whiter than White, sorry. In other words, the range is screwed up, that's where the extra clipping comes from. Not quite a full pc-mode, just a few steps in each direction.