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Koppel
17th December 2006, 17:46
It is the first time that I have the need to put some edited DV footage on a DVD to be shown in my school.

The DV is a squeezed 16:9 and also interlaced. Seems like making a DVD is quite hard according to the guides in Doom9.org.

But I don't need menus and stuff (I guess) So is there some simple way to put this (10min video) on a DVD without unnecessary work?

bb
17th December 2006, 19:12
You may use a DV editing software with integrated DVD authoring, which should not be too complicated.

Or you encode the video with your favorite encoder and use IfoEdit to create a simple DVD without menus.

Another quick option is to simply burn the MPEG-2 file on a data DVD. But in that case you have to make sure that your DVD player supports that.

bb

Koppel
17th December 2006, 19:30
Do I understand correctly the stages of making a DVD.

1. You use one program to compress the source to MPEG2
(The result is one file or what?)

2. You use an authoring program to make the DVD structure?
(The result is a series of folders and files)

3. You burn the folders and files on a DVD like making a Data DVD, using any burning software?
(The result is a DVD like any other)

If I use IfoEdit as the authoring program what do you suggest for encoding?
I'm guessing TMPGEnc, because in the DV to DVD guide it is said that "It is really easy to use TMPGEnc for DV to DVD conversions"

EDIT:
Ok, I did a bit of work on it and encoded the DV file with TMPGEnc.
The result is a an m2v file:
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536Kbps
Video: MPEG2 Video 720x576 (16:9) 25.00fps 8000Kbps

(worked nicely with Media Player Classic)
The new question is - what now?
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I have IfoEdit v0.971. Opened it and then from the menu opened "DVD Author" > "Author new DVD"

From there I can pick the video source and the audio source. But isn't there a problem when my video file (the m2v) allready contains an audio track.
I also have the audio as a separate WAV file, so should I encode this to AC3 with BeLight and then Add the Audio as an AC3 file to IfoEdit?
Or is it OK if I use the WAV file?

spanky123
18th December 2006, 01:45
Do I understand correctly the stages of making a DVD.

1. You use one program to compress the source to MPEG2
(The result is one file or what?)

2. You use an authoring program to make the DVD structure?
(The result is a series of folders and files)

3. You burn the folders and files on a DVD like making a Data DVD, using any burning software?
(The result is a DVD like any other)

If I use IfoEdit as the authoring program what do you suggest for encoding?
I'm guessing TMPGEnc, because in the DV to DVD guide it is said that "It is really easy to use TMPGEnc for DV to DVD conversions"

EDIT:
Ok, I did a bit of work on it and encoded the DV file with TMPGEnc.
The result is a an m2v file:
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536Kbps
Video: MPEG2 Video 720x576 (16:9) 25.00fps 8000Kbps

(worked nicely with Media Player Classic)
The new question is - what now?
------------------------------------------------
I have IfoEdit v0.971. Opened it and then from the menu opened "DVD Author" > "Author new DVD"

From there I can pick the video source and the audio source. But isn't there a problem when my video file (the m2v) allready contains an audio track.
I also have the audio as a separate WAV file, so should I encode this to AC3 with BeLight and then Add the Audio as an AC3 file to IfoEdit?
Or is it OK if I use the WAV file?

#1. Yes. You use something like TMPGenc Xpress, or Canopus Procoder or CCE to convert from dv-avi to dvd compliant mpeg-2.

#2. Yes. It should give you an AUDIO_TS and a VIDEO_TS folder and a few .ifo/.vob/.bup files

#3. Yes. I usually use Nero and select burn 'DVD-Video Files', but I think burning as a data disc should work too, so long as you finalize the disc (no multisession)

About your m2v file. I thought m2v was just video. According to wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2V - it is just video. Are you sure you don't have a seperate audio file (m2a, mp2, ac3) ?
I think you do, and Media Player Classic is selecting that audio file to play with the video as they are in the same folder with same name.

EDIT: Just read the last bit of your post. Add the m2v file (which IS just video) and the wav file (assuming it's pcm audio) to the dvd-authoring program. I haven't used ifoedit so i don't know. If it doesn't accept the wav file, then use somethin like besweet (with the belight gui) to convert to ac3 or mp2.

Video Dude
18th December 2006, 04:45
MuxMan (free version) is a good choice for authoring a DVD without menus.

Instead of ac3 you could use mpa. tooLame is good free encoder. It is an command line encoder, but there are GUIs for it. TMPGEnc 2.5 can use tooLame.

Koppel
18th December 2006, 13:11
About your m2v file. I thought m2v was just video. According to wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2V - it is just video. Are you sure you don't have a seperate audio file (m2a, mp2, ac3) ?
I think you do, and Media Player Classic is selecting that audio file to play with the video as they are in the same folder with same name.

You're absolutely right. Thats exactly what happened. I had the wav with the same name before I imported my video into TMPGEnc and when I imported Video file, it automatically put the same thing as the audio file. So I had
Video file: myfilename.avi
Audio file: myfilename.avi

So I think it somehow extracted the wav from my file (cause it asked me if I wanted to overwrite myfilename.wav and used it later as an audio)

So now I'll just compress the audio into AC3 with BeLight and try to make the DVD with IfoEdit.
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EDIT:
I did the authoring with IfoEdit but strangely didn't get any Audio_TS or VIDEO_TS folders. What I did get was:
VTS_01_1.VOB
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO

Is this enough to make a DVD if I put these on a CD (since combined they only require 531mb) ?

communist
18th December 2006, 22:39
Is this enough to make a DVD if I put these on a CD (since combined they only require 531mb) ?
On a CD it would be a "miniDVD" - which is a standard not all DVD players support, if you can test it before you actually need it - otherwise just burn as Video-DVD in Nero to DVD+R with Booktype set to -ROM that'll give you the highest compatibility.

If quality isnt much of concern you can aswell make a SVCD ;)

Koppel
18th December 2006, 23:12
Ok, then I'll burn it on a DVD for most compatibility.

But the file structure I got was Ok, or what? Nothing else needed just these files?

VTS_01_1.VOB
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO

Fizick
18th December 2006, 23:43
You must create VIDEO_TS folder and put all these files to it.
Also create empty AUDIO_TS folder.
Burn. Try with DVD-RW :)

But is is certainly offtopic here, search other subforum and ask there.

communist
19th December 2006, 07:09
If you use the Video-DVD preset in Nero there will be an empty VIDEO_TS folder into which you can drop these files. Alternatively you can create an AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folder, put the files in the video folder and burn it with ImgBurn, should give you a video dvd aswell.