use 2 main colors for different subtitles

[bidomo]

Hi everyone!

I've just Saw an Anime DVD that appears to be official, it has dual audio, and triple subs.
My attention come to the screen when I saw that the DVD subtitles where Overlapping (different captions from different colors), and even where moving on the screen (not so advanced as ASS would do).

What I really want to use is the overlapping and the coloring (Yellow and white as main colors) for when there are two people talking


Any help would be appreciated

[BigCondor]

You can change the colour of every subtitle separately with DVDSubEdit.

If you want to have different colour for different streams then you change the colour scheme for the whole stream.

If you want to have different colour for different people then I'm afraid you have to do it manually for each sub.

But if you want to have different colours in one subtitle then it will not be easy. A clumsy way is to edit the bitmap colours of each subtilte yourself.

[bidomo]

But if you want to have different colours in one subtitle then it will not be easy. A clumsy way is to edit the bitmap colours of each subtilte yourself.

Thanks for your reply, but doing so seems to be very hard.

All I want to do is maybe use one color for talking and other for signals and stuff, and maybe move the subs for signals near them.

[kumi]

A subtitle that appears to overlap in time with another (and doesn't flicker when it changes) is actually a single SPU (Sub-picture Decoding Unit). The overlap is performed with a Display Control Command like a wipe.

Your only option for creating such effects is DVD Maestro, Scenarist, or other professional authoring suites.

Different colors in the same subpicture are more easily obtainable. MaestroSBT (http://sourceforge.net/projects/maestrosbt/) accepts .SSA subtitles as inputs, and with the use of styles or the manual editor, you can define different colors for different lines on the same subpicture.

[bidomo]

A subtitle that appears to overlap in time with another (and doesn't flicker when it changes) is actually a single SPU (Sub-picture Decoding Unit). The overlap is performed with a Display Control Command like a wipe.

Your only option for creating such effects is DVD Maestro, Scenarist, or other professional authoring suites.

Different colors in the same subpicture are more easily obtainable. MaestroSBT (http://sourceforge.net/projects/maestrosbt/) accepts .SSA subtitles as inputs, and with the use of styles or the manual editor, you can define different colors for different lines on the same subpicture.

You're right, I was thinking on it.
I've tried MaestroSBT in conjunction with DVD-Lab pro, but didn't work as espected (my fault), but now I have some free time to make some testing.
DVD Lab pro is the only licenced software I own, so couldn't say how does other works.

In my last Job, there was some professional software for subtitling DVD's, but can't remember the name, to check for pricing.


I'll give a nice try to MaestroSBT again.

Thanks for your reply

[kumi]

You could also look into MuxMan (http://www.mpucoder.com/Muxman/), as it can import the .SST file(s) from MaestroSBT.

[Zeul]

As does DVDPlanner ;)

[hamletiii]

For two colors subs coexist and time overlapping, MastroSBT with SSA will do it.
put two different styles in SSA and configure these styles in MaestroSBT. The drawback is that you have two colors for subs, one color for outline, one color for background, there's no 5th color for antialising to smooth the edges a little bit.

For wipe, karaoke type, DVDMaestro's stl will do, but it's quite complicated and need some patience to do the timing...

For real space moving subs (like subs moving across the screen), the only way without any custom subtitle software I have figured out is using macromedia flash, exporting as frame by frame 4-color subpicture, then importing into DVDMaestro or scenarist, but the size of the subpicture is too huge...

[kumi]

Maestro's STL also does position animation via XOffset and YOffset, IIRC.

[auenf]

As does DVDPlanner ;)
*cough*ad*cough* :P

iirc, DVDMaestro (and derivatives) only support a minimum subtitle length of 1 GOP, so subtitle animation (cept fade in/out, and karaoke wipe) really needs to be done in Scenarist

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