Help with trimmed image on TV of a 4:3 film dvd

[Talayero]

Hi, I have a 4:3 pal dvd film and when I play it in computer I can see perfectly the beginning credits. But on my TV set I miss one letter on the left one letter on the right of some of the credits. The image is a bit cropped.

Ifoedit says "automatic letterboxed" for the movie attributes. I think that's correct. Time ago I managed to fix a problem with a 16:9 movie that I couldn't see well on TV. The movie attributes were "automatic pan & scan", I changed with ifoedit to "automatic letterboxed" and the problem disappeared. But know I don't know what to do. I even tried several standalone players, and also changed the attributes with Ifoedit, but I see the image always cropped. Using powerdvd in my PC I see the whole image, even two very small black bars one of the left one on the right.

How could I see the whole image on my TV? The film is a classic, a very good one, and the problem is not only the credits. In some scenes you can tell that's not the exact framing the director chose.

Thanks in advance.

[Video Dude]

That is normal. It happens on all televisions. It is called overscan.

Some advanced televisions allow you to adjust overscan, most don't. Some DVD players allow you to zoom out (most only have zoom in). Nothing much else you can do except re-encoding and add a 10% black border. But then when you watch it on your computer you will see the black border.

Read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

[Talayero]

Thanks.

I just tried some reencoding with cce and tmpgenc, adding bars, but I can't find the way to get the right video stream in order to see the whole image on my tv.

There's something I don't understand: If I reencode adding bars then I trim even more the video image. What I need is a zoom out effect on my TV. So I would need some bars that could contain inside the whole image as I see it on my PC, but as soon as I start adding bars with tmpgenc or with the avisynth script in CCE I start cropping the original video size.

[Video Dude]

You have to resize the video in AviSynth first to make the frame size smaller. Then use AddBorders to add the bars and put the video back to 720x576.


Something like:
LanczosResize(648,520)
AddBorders(36, 28, 36, 28)

Values might need adjusting to keep aspect ratio.



You should see now see the full image on your TV, but you will see black bars on the computer.

[Talayero]

Thanks a lot. Now it worked and I can see the full image on TV.