How can I keep the untouched DVD subs on Matroska?

[Chainmax]

After getting the .IFO, .IDX and .SUB files, how do I mux then into the video stream using MMG?

[Kurtnoise]

http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/doc/mkvmerge-gui.html#muxing

[Chainmax]

Thanks for the link, but it only says that Matroska supports VobSub sutitles muxing, which I already suspected. It doesn't say what to mux in order to get the subs.

[Kurtnoise]

idx file is enough...sub file must be also in the same folder because it contains raw images.

[Chainmax]

I'll mux both .IDX and .SUB then, as I prefer to have everything contained in a single file. Thanks for the answers :).

[LeMoi]

MMG doesn't handle .sub files, you'll only need see .idx in mmg add window ;)

[Chainmax]

Yeah, it seems you guys are right. Is there no way to keep everything within a single file?

[Haali]

When you mux dvd subtitles to mkv you do get a single file.
Specifying only an .idx to mkvmerge doesn't prevent it from reading .sub too.

[Chainmax]

The muxing was done: the chapters and dual audio track work wonderfully but the sutitles don't load, even though they appear and can be selected on the Haali splitter's icon. Putting the .IDX and .SUB in the same folder and with the same name as the movie makes the subtitles appear, but playack becomes extremely choppy and the AR changes :confused:.

[vlada]

Chainmax> How do you display the subtitles? Are you using VobSub (VSFilter)?

[Chainmax]

I have VoSub 2.23 and ffdshow (with the subtitles option disabled) installed.

[vlada]

2.23 is a very old version, I think this is the root cause of your problem. You'll find a new version here (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84359).

[foxyshadis]

http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/Media%20Player%20Classic/external%20filters/unicode//VSFilter.7z

This one's more recent, has a few fixes that the last official release doesn't.

[Chainmax]

I'll try that VSFilter version then, thanks for the replies :).

[edit]foxyshadis: that is a dll, should I just copy it to the system32 folder? Also, this dll alone doesn't allow me to rip VobSub sutitles from my DVDs, does it?

[foxyshadis]

Ah, sorry, you have to copy it somewhere and regsvr32 it. Doesn't matter where, though I think vsfilter by default installs in its own folder in program files. If you just copy over the old one it should inherit, but it's always safer to regsvr32 it anyway.

[joseph5]

this dll alone doesn't allow me to rip VobSub sutitles from my DVDs, does it?
No, for that you use VSRip from 2.23.

[Chainmax]

foxyshadis: done, thanks :).

joseph5: are you talking about VSRip v1.0.0.6 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84442&release_id=162590)?

[joseph5]

joseph5: are you talking about VSRip v1.0.0.6 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84442&release_id=162590)?Yes, I am.

[patoloco]

I'll try that VSFilter version then, thanks for the replies :).

[edit]foxyshadis: that is a dll, should I just copy it to the system32 folder? Also, this dll alone doesn't allow me to rip VobSub sutitles from my DVDs, does it?

If you by any chance are using Media Player Classic you can just put the dll anywhere and load it in MPC's external filters option.

MPC..Options..External Filters.. Add Filter... Browse..

//p

[Chainmax]

It's unfortunate that I can't put the .sub inside the .MKV but I guess that's not too big of a deal. Thanks for all the replies :).

[vlada]

It's unfortunate that I can't put the .sub inside the .MKV

Why not?

[LeMoi]

.sub are MicroDVD subs (if not with .idx), and mkvtoolnix doesn't handle them :)

[vlada]

I think we've been talking about VobSubs (.IDX) all the time. If you want to MicroDVD (.SUB) subtitles into MKV, just convert them to SubRip (.SRT) format.

[Chainmax]

When ripping subs with VobSub, you get an index file (.IDX) and the bitmap subtitles themselves (.SUB). The index file can be muxed with MMG, but the .SUB can't.

[LeMoi]

It's not really that it can or not, it's just automatical :)

[Chainmax]

But you can't see the subtitles unless the muxed MKV and the .SUB file are in the same folder, right?

[LeMoi]

No, the .sub is included in the mkv, you don't need it anymore.

[Chainmax]

I'll try to play the MKV without the .SUB being in the same folder then. Thanks :).

[Chainmax]

I eventually had to resort to extracting the .IDX and muxing downloaded SRT subs, that was the only way subtitles would appear :(.