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superuser
14th October 2006, 09:29
I am using combination of following filters to backup old hindi movies - interlaced and Bitrate about 2800 to 3200, to DVD 5. Intent is to retain as much quality as possible, remove noise and smoothen the picture, encoding time is not an issue. Currently it takes about 36 hours to back up 3 hours of movie. Suggestions on tweaking the parameters or adding or removing filters from following are really appreciated:

Undot()
FluxSmooth(7, 7)
FFT3DFilter(bt=0, sharpen=0.7, interlaced=true)
Deen()


also had tried had tried following
FFT3DFilter(bt=1, sharpen=0.5, interlaced=true).

thnxs for ur time and efforts.

Edit: Removed filter name from thread tittle.

Pookie
14th October 2006, 09:53
Hi Superuser, Post a short clip of the original - 20 seconds, no audio needed. You can use DGindex to get a clip, Mpeg2Cut2 will do it as well.
Post to RapidShare.de if you don't have a web site.

You're using too many denoisers. Undot before Deen is like a waterballoon fight in the rain :D

Congrats on your first post.

superuser
14th October 2006, 10:50
sorry, for getting the clip in late. Here is the sample (http://rapidshare.de/files/36681152/VTS_01_2.MPG.html)

Pookie
14th October 2006, 14:19
Your film looks very good, actually. Inverse Telecine will make it look much cleaner. Read Chainmax's post in this thread for a great IVTC solution. Try it out.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=107096&highlight=fix+file

Search for "Reducefluctuations" to calm down the strobing effect. - maybe someone can suggest a better solution.

Check out the SeeSaw Thread, 1st Page to filter & sharpen


http://rapidshare.de/files/36705592/enc.avi.html (Xvid)

superuser
15th October 2006, 01:57
Thnxs Pookie. Will look into and try it out.

Here is an encoded clip for same version using decomb, fft3dfilter and fluxsmooth

http://rapidshare.de/files/36764205/VTS_01_1.MPG.html

Pookie
15th October 2006, 07:31
Looks nice. The only thing I would address is the flickering, especially in the last few seconds. Does the rest of the film do that ?

superuser
15th October 2006, 20:11
Looks nice. The only thing I would address is the flickering, especially in the last few seconds. Does the rest of the film do that ?

was away from my system for about a day!!!

there is flickering at couple of places in the movie.

Couple of follow queries:
- As u said the clip seemed fine to u, so does sources of this sort requires fft3dfilter.
- Secondly is fluxsmooth (saw comments from user eating away details) a good option to use or use SeeSaw by Didee' or some other.
- Thirdly what way can one determine how much noise is present and tweak settings as per, and r there tools out there to give indication of the level of noise present in the movie?


Too many questions, and so can be dumby, so please bare with me. Thnxs for ur time and help!!!

Pookie
16th October 2006, 02:33
All of the above questions can be answered with a question:

How does it look to YOU?

Trust your eyes - That's the ONLY thing that matters in the end. You can measure noise levels to your heart's content, but what does the final result look like in the end? Noise can also be your friend. In many cases, the proper type of noise will add the illusion of sharpness, or can mask other artifacts which can't be filtered. On the other hand, some people want as clean an image as possible. Nobody is wrong ;)