.DIVX DEMUX possible?

[Jalavera]

Is it possible? I mean in a full mode: video menu + audio menu + title + subtitles, etcétera such as VCDEasy does in (S)VCD, DVDAuthorGUI in DVD ...
Is possible to get from a full-featured Divx6 file an .XML file plus all videos, all audio, all subtitle that could be remuxed again with no navigation loss? In other words a DivX Container editor.
Thanks

[LordIntruder]

Hi,

I'm asking myself the exact same question. If I can demux, I'm able to play the main video+audio in case of problem.

So now we have tools to mux video, menus, etc... like the beautiful DivxMediaBuilder, what about demux?

Thanks. :)

[setarip_old]

@Jalavera

Hi!

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your post but, don't you already have all of those components separately, from before you multiplexed them into a DivX file?

[Jalavera]

Yes, it is obvious in major cases... but if:
1. When I make a Divx file I delete sources and what happens if I want to reuse a menu to another movie, or want to extract the sound from the menu?
2. When Someone makes a .divx with menues and I want to 'extract' the music, the video or whatever and merge with my own compilation?

[Jalavera]

3. Or if I want to correct a little sound, video, still, overlay in MENU area, or just improve it and the sources for the menu have been deleted.

[setarip_old]

1. When I make a Divx file I delete sources and what happens if I want to reuse a menu to another movieSince you're talking about movies, your source is most likely a commercial DVD - How do you "delete" a DVD?2. When Someone makes a .divx with menues and I want to 'extract' the music, the video or whatever and merge with my own compilation?Discussion of such activity is against the rules of these forums...

[LordIntruder]

Please, please, please, have you ever heard about loaning from a friend or from a store? You know you pay 2 or 3$, you go back to your home with your DVD, you watch it and you give it back to the store next day. :)

It is perfectly legal to rip and keep a copy for your personal use. Maybe not in all countries, I agree.

Have you ever heard about TV capture? If you want to capture all episodes from say a beloved SF serie then make your own beautiful menu and burn the whole result into a single .divx on DVDR, is it forbidden? Is it being a pirate?

If like me you hate to loan DVD to friends because when you get the DVD back there are fingerprints everywhere on the play side, is it forbidden to make a .divx and share it with your friends? Depends of your country.

So if you rip the DVD of your friend, you make a .divx with all the structure, you give it back to him. The original source is gone. If you capture from TV, the source is gone immediately. Now if for a reason or another you want to modify something, get the audio, or just make a sample of 15sec and watch it again and again, how can you do that actually? If you get into trouble like me on my machine that refuse to play some .divx, what do you do? "Allo, TV center? Can you diffuse episodes again please? My .divx causes me some problem. Thanks guys". ;)

If you consider it is forbidden to ask how to demux a ".divx", you must consider this is also forbidden to ask how to demux an avi or an ogm or a MKV or... because you also must own the sources, in others words the DVD. ;)

So in short all this site breaks the rules. Even here there are tutorials on how to demux movies ;)

Today the question is: how safe is it to create and burn .divx menus on CDR or DVDR when you can't know how to get back the sources you use to make it? On my machine I get some trouble with .divx, that means I can't see some .divx correctly. And today if the answer is: there is no tool to demux a .divx, quite franckly I give up with menus. Spending hours to make beautiful menus (from the DVD or sometimes from your own creation) and not being sure you can play the content in 2 weeks or 6 months, not being able to get what is inside the .divx, it is a risk I consider too high.

[jggimi]

...It is perfectly legal to rip and keep a copy for your personal use. Maybe not in all countries, I agree.Not in most. Regardless, it is not Fair Use, by our definition.

This is an international forum, with a single view towards the protection of intellectual property. As this is a single view, it is both looser and stricter than the laws of various countries. It is unambiguous, simple to understand, and ethically defensible. It was first described by Doom9 when he built his website in 2000. See the Piracy and Copyright section of www.doom9.org/disclaimer.htm for the specific wording he used.

By our definition, then: Fair Use is making a backup of intellectual property you have rights to (ownership of a copy, broadcast capture) for your personal use only. Any other use is not Fair Use.

Have you ever heard about TV capture? ...This is Fair Use, by our definition....share it with your friends? This is not Fair Use. We don't care if the content is hand-delivered, placed in an envelope and given to your post office, or transferred via a network. Sharing of content without a license to do so is not Fair Use...So if you rip the DVD of your friend...Not Fair Use.If you capture from TV...Fair Use.If you consider it is forbidden to ask how to demux a ".divx"...Our interpretation of Fair Use is unambiguous. Unfortunately, situations that arise in questions across this forum are often less than crystal clear. It is not necessarily forbidden to ask such a question. Judgement is necessary, by both members and moderators, in order to decide how to deal with each situation that may arise.

In this thread, Jalavera asked about demuxing "Someone's" .divx to extract a desired component. I believe that it could be reasonably argued that this wording may interpreted as meaning someone else's file, rather than their own. This is an excellent example of where judgement bears on what people state in threads.

[LordIntruder]

Ok thanks for clarification. On that forum fair use is considered as you must own the source. Even if in your country it is ok if you do not have the source, on this forum it is considered as not ok.

To avoid problems, everyone on same line. Ok, didn't know about that, thought it depended from where you came from.

Ok. However I was surprised that for a simple demux question (the first message), the first thing answered was: you have the sources (avi, ac3, mp3) so why ask? In others words Jalavera was already suspected not to be in the fair use. But when you make a .divx menu, you delete the sources, as you do when you make an AVI rip and no one suspects someone not owning the DVD if he asks how demux his avi or ogm.

Now Jalavera second message on point 2 and mine on some points are not fair use for this forum. With your explanations I fully agree with you. :)

[TheTrooper]

Does anyone know if such a tool exists?
I messed up my menu and don't want to spend hours converting from dvd again. (I deleted my encoded divx files before checking the .divx container worked properly)
Thanks if you can help :)

[sillKotscha]

AFAIK you can load a *.divx file into vdub_mod very well... that means you can save your video stream without audio and without re-compressing... thus video_no_audio.avi ... and from the same file you can demux your audio into mp3 or save it as wav ...

so, no special demux tool is necessary for *.divx ...

but as I said... afaik :)

Edit: sorry... i wasn't reading very well... I believe with a menu that won't work...

[mahsah]

You could try graphedit. Load the file in there and see if you can connect the pins to file outputs.