To GKnot Moderator (theWEF)

[Dionysus]

So you can dish it but you can't take it. I don't think it's fair that you can sit there and mock me and I retaliate and you tell me to go get my HELP;(To give assistance to; aid: I helped her find the book. To contribute to the furtherance of; promote. To give relief to: help the needy) elsewhere. You please explain to me what the point of having a FORUM; (A public meeting place for open discussion.) if ppl like me, and trust me there's lots of us, that need help and all youc an sit there and do is mock me. I don't know but there's no moral behind what you did with my posted question and further telling me to leave and go else where to get questions answered. You know what I'm sorry that I donated money to this site and your telling me to leave. If there was some way of getting my money back I would. I think you need to grow up and get off your high horse. Now lets see who's going to be the bigger man here obviously your not cuz your not wanting to portray an image of defeat. It's okay it's part of being a guy. Total dominance. But anyways, if you persist to kick me off I'd like you to refund my money too.

Thanks, Dionysus.

[cofferscuffs]

IMHO you got what you deserved after your last post:

I was wondering what program I'm suppose to use to encode the audio. Cuz I thought everything thta was needed was in the Package Download....

And now you say you've been mocked? You mocked him first by calling him a smartass. What is so insulting to you about theWEF saying to you: 'Please read Doom9's guide' and 'Could it be more simple?'. NOTHING.

ALL THE HELP YOU NEED TO MAKE SBC DIVX IS IN THE GUIDE!!!!

And the point of this forum? Feedback, bugs, suggestions etc... what pisses him off is that people don't read the guide and/or don't search the forum before posting here.

He doesn't want to see you maybe because you can't be assed to the the guide properly ---> lazy person?!!?

And it's a hint that no-one else replied to your last post except theWEF ---> maybe no-one cares about you or THE INFO IS IN THE GUIDE!!

Sorry for my rant, flame me if you want Dionysus, but all what I just posted is true.

EDIT: Oh I just seen about the money now... how petty! None of that money goes to theWEF, it goes to Doom9 to help pay for the site. Maybe you don't like the community here? I don't know, and frankly I don't care. Maybe I've just proved myself to be a 'smartass' just like theWEF is apparently...

Don't get me wrong, I don't personally hate you, so don't take this that way. But what I do hate is neglegence and ignorance.

[phuntyme]

Hey D, dont freak. TheWEF has put in extraoridnary efforts to make Gknot as easy as possible. The problem comes from where people read something but interpret it wrong (because it seems to make sense so you start making assumptions). Then start asking questions that has been answered many times. It becomes very frustrating for him (and others) because all the effort everyone puts in, and then it seems others don't bother (key word here, SEEMS).

Believe me, I've done it several times... and have been told to jump.... but I stuck like mollassis(sp?).... and no one can see me blush so I'm still hanging around ^_^

Ok, for your problem. You might want to uninstall all the encoding tools you've got... and do a full installation of gknot.... then try to rip a trailer or something to see if the audio works... (between you and me... i don't really read the how to either... I'm just a bit sneaky when I ask my dumb questions =P ). Remember that if you are ripping a trailer, its only a few minutes long where gknot is designed to do a feature length rip... so you will have to specify that your CD size is like 200MB or something... don't worry about the result... we are only trying to get your audio going.

Let me know how you go.

[Dionysus]

Quote, "As GKnot does the audio encoding for you know, there's no way of knowing the exact size of the audio file before encoding. But in order to get a good idea about the pixel/frame value which indicates if your chosen resolution will result in good quality you should enter a rough bitrate estimation anyway. So, for instance, GKnots audio encoding default is 128kbit/s ABR so you would insert 128kbit/s as audio bitrate. GKnot will ignore this value if it's encoding your audio file." K now that's all it says in the guide. Now you tell me that that is user friendly. Yeah I'm not saying they should change there guides to be "DVD Ripping For Dummies" but when a new person to this all comes and asks a question they shouldn't be mocked for not READING the guide when that's all it says about audio. I don't know where theWEF got the other stuff from in the other forum but it wasn't from the same guide I'm reading from. And as for pissing him off. I never specifically asked him to answer the question, if that's how I knew it was going to be answered I would have never of posted it. And lastly, as for the money, yeah I know none of it goes to theWEF but if I'm getting kicked off for such a minor question, in which I don't believe the answer was in the guide, then I have every right cuz why would I pay for something I can't use. Anyways, I'll see what happens in the end. No hard feelings, but I would like to ask theWEF exactly what guide he was looking in that he got the info that he sent me cuz from the copy/paste that I just did I don't see anything remotely that EASY in there.

alright guys, check ya later.

ps. The only real reason I asked that question is because my audio was x seconds ahead of the movie. The audio would stop and the person would just finish talking on the movie. I had the audio stuff figured out for myself I just wanted to make sure because to myself it wasn't clear in the guide as to what to do. I'm not incapable of this cuz I figured out the VCD/SVCD quite nicely and I was trying to convert myself into DivX but if I'm banned it will have to be SVCD all the way. So if you ahve any suggestions to my x seconds ahead of the movie I would like to hear them and as for this BS back and forth I don't think any of us needs so... do with me as you wish mod.

[Doom9]

in the other thread you asked:
it never says anything about where your going to get your audio track from it just says that Gordian will do your audio for you and never says anything about it so. So do I load my audio right before I'm about to encode, at that very last screen and I save&encode??

and in the guide it says:
Then go to the audio1 tab:
Press the select button and select the AC3 that DVD2AVI has demuxed. If you want to keep the AC3 check Just Mux. Otherwise select MP3 (selected by default actually) and enter the average bitrate you want. For 1 CD that's usually 128kbit/s, for 2 CDs 160kbit/s or higher depending on your priority on video or audio quality (higher audio bitrate = lower video bitrate -> higher audio quality but lower video quality). Re-calculate video bitrate should be checked in any case, and delete wav will save some space so it should be checked, too. Azid is run in 2 pass mode to find the maximum overflow free gain so you won't have to normalize the audio.


So.. your question clearly would have been answered if you bothered to read the guide properly.

As for the part where the audio comes from: (again a quote from the guide):

The next step is to create a DVD2AVI project.

Once again TheWef has already provided a small guide which you can see on the left which can get you started. When you are unsure about a certain operation or you think that something you're doing doesn't correspond to the description given on the left you can read my full DVD2AVI guide which guides you through all the options DVD2AVI has.

Press the DVD2AVI button to start DVD2AVI, then follow the description given on the left or my guide as mentioned above. Once you're done, quit DVD2AVI and come back to Gknot.
Besides that there's a screenshot that contains the instructions on how to use dvd2avi... in GKnot itself. And the link to "full DVD2AVI guide" gives you the following page: www.doom9.org/mpg/dvd2avi.htm where again you will find instructions on how to demux the audio.

So.. all in all.. all the information you were looking for has been given in the guide TheWef was referring to and you have no reason complain or even insult him.

[TheWEF]

i still don't get what's going on in your head?

you use my free program.
you come here to ask questions.
i answer them.
you insult me.

what do you expect?
read the other thread again and think about it. here is what i wrote:

just check 'demux all tracks' in dvd2avi before you save the project-file and you get one or more ac3-files.

you can either just mux it/them into your avi or transcode to mp3.

please read doom9's guide.

wef.
The one that says "DivX encoding control panel". just go to "audio 1" and select the ac3-file. the go back to "DivX 3" or "DivX 4" and press "Add Job...".

could it be more simple?

wef.

p.s.: did you read the how-to?

where did you "get criticized for not knowing what (you) were doing"?
where did i "mock you"?

more:

"there's no moral behind what you did with my posted question."

"I think you need to grow up and get off your high horse."

"Now lets see who's going to be the bigger man here obviously your not cuz your not wanting to portray an image of defeat. It's okay it's part of being a guy. Total dominance."

:rolleyes: no more comments from me.


@everybody:

no matter how stupid your questions are, most likely you will find somebody here who is trying to help.
and you will never get insulted!
but please don't cry if somebody tells you to read the guide!
and don't take everything so serious, we're trying to have fun here, ok?

;) wef.

p.s.: thanx for your support, guys!

[The FX Files]

If you follow the guide, you'll have your displacement problem sorted.

When demuxing the AC3 in DVD2AVI, you'll come up with a track in the format "vts_01 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3", telling you that it's in AC3 format, it's the first audio track (T01), it's in DD 3/2 format with 448Kbps resolution. Also note what's after, "DELAY 0ms" (in this case, of course). This tells you the displacement the audio has when compared to video (and this is automatically determined by DVD2AVI).

Now, in Gordian Knot, setup your video and desired audio bitrate, your resolution, everything, and when you're ready, press "Save & Encode" in the encoding window, as you would to encode the whole video. Then you'll come up in one of these tabs: DivX3 or DivX4. Then select the Audio 1 tab, and press Select right to Audio Source File, and select your AC3 file. Select the MP3, xxx kBit/sec. Average Bitrage radio button, and you'll then notice that Gordian Knot automatically parses the file name and sets up your Delay so that it works correct.

Hope any of this made any sence, I've typed alot and I hope you don't get harsh with me too...

[Dionysus]

okay thank you The FX Files. That's all I needed. and you know yeah I'm using your free program but I also supported you as I couldn't begin to realise how hard it would be to set these programs up for us to use freely. I know I couldn't do it. Hence the fact that I donated money to keep this site running. I'm not mad about you telling me to go use the guide I think I've heard it enough being a "newbie" at this so don't think it was because of that. Now I'm sure if you would have answer the question like The FX Files then there would be no room for either of us to assume anything.

Anyways, so by checking the MP3 format when in the final stage before encoding will keep my audio -> video insynch??

To theWEF, I'm not going to argue with you anymore cuz I'm basically fighting a losing battle no matter which way I go. Basically because you have all the power and I'm a nobody to this website. So how bout we drop the whole thing and forget about it??

[TheWEF]

nobody has ever been banned before and you are not as well. it's senseless anyway because you could easily come back with a new nick.
i will definitely forget this subject...
but personally, don't you think an apology would be appropriate?

wef.

[Dionysus]

I think each of us deserves an apology, because we obviously both feel disrespected. You probably more than I do, but I also think an apology, although you don't think what you did is wrong. therefore, to end this once and for all, I'm sorry for what has happened in this forum. For later reference if I ask another stupid question and your the one that happens to reply just simply write, and nothing else, it's in the guide. And if I dont' think it is then I will contest but otherwise nothing more to continue what just happened.

So on the question side, to anyone out there, do I have to use the MP3 file for sound or cuz i tried the AC3 and the video was good, what's new, but there was absolutely no sound this time??

[Bubba]

You can use VirtualDub/Nandub to add a second AC3 track other than the MP3 track.

[Doom9]

about your ac3 problem.. do you have ac3 directshow filters installed? you'll find a set if required filters in my avi/ac3 pack.