Found sample of PSL2 plugin failure - RipIt4Me OK!

[Sir Didymus]

PSL2 plugin release 2.21; RipIt4Me release 1.4.14.0

First of all let me state the largest appreciation to the authors of both ripping tools.

I have to be honest - until today I did not fully realise the real advantages of the second on the first... NOW I DO...

The situation is related to the Italian release of INSIDE MAN. What happens is something new (at least in my experience) in the disc protection scenario.

Here is the protection scheme:


just VTS01 protected

Cell list Entry point Last LBA

cell 1 512 524
cell 2 525 3845 (unplayable)
cell 3 3846 3858



Nothing new, apart the entry point sector of the first cell of the pgc containing the protected movie is not 0. In the VTS_VOBU_ADMAP, the first VOBU referenced is VOBU_1, at address 0, and the second VOBU, which is the entry point of the first cell, is at the address 512.

In this scenario, the PSL2 plugin generates a PSL2 file allowing to skip the cell2 alone:


PSL2
0:0x5B0FAE86,0,INSIDE_MAN - Zone 2

1:210208,213528

6:1,1,2,2,1
6:1,1,2,3,1
6:1,1,2,4,0


VTS origin is at LBA 209683, so 210208 --> 525; 213528 --> 3845. This PSL is not sufficient to rip properly the DVD, since also the sectors from 0 to 511 are crap, referenced in the VTS_VOBU_ADMAP...

The PSL file produced by RipIt4Me is:


PSL2
0:0x5B0FAE86,0,RipIt4Me-INSIDE_MAN
1:209843,210194
1:210368,213528

6:1,1,2,2,1
6:1,1,2,3,1
6:1,1,2,4,0


Which allows to properly rip the DVD...
Something is still unclear to me, since the analysis (with IfoEdit) of the situation would be ideally to remove all of the crap from sector 0 to sector 511 (VOBU_1) and from sector 525 to 3845 (VOBU_3...VOBU_417), e.g. something like:


PSL2
0:0x5B0FAE86,0,INSIDE_MAN
1:209683,210194
1:210208,213528

6:1,1,2,2,1
6:1,1,2,3,1
6:1,1,2,4,0


Anyway, RipIt4Me allowed to rip successfully the DVD...
Sorry for all of this bla, bla, and double sorry if the scenario is already known.
Just wanted to share my findings with the forum users.

Afraid I have not access (stupid firewall troubles...) to digital_digest, where some topics related to the plugin seems widely discussed...

Cheers,
SD

Edit: some spelling...

[setarip_old]

The PSL2 plugin hasn't been updated since 8/02, while "RipIt4me" continues to be updated on a current basis - therefore, the differing results...

[Sir Didymus]

Yes, definitely...

Anyway I lived until yesterday in the convinction that the approach of the PSL2 plugin was sufficiently general to cope with almost all of the protection schemes based on crap sectors...

So it has been quite shocking to see it fail on this title... :scared:

Hopefully, with RipIt4Me, we have an excellent alternative...

I mean, it's still amazing (and effective) to keep using DVD Decrypter as ripper: never had, personally, a good feeling with other decrypters and rippers like AnyDVD and others...

And after what happened to its author I decided to continue using DVDD as long as possible, in spite of all of the Hollywood attempts to make us users unable to do a legitimate copy of our DVDs...
:angry:

[setarip_old]

I mean, it's still amazing (and effective) to keep using DVD Decrypter as ripperIt's really not "amazing" - nor even surprising.DVD Decrypter's foundation is rock solid, so as long as other programs, such as "RipIt4Me" can perform the required preliminary .IFO and .VOB "cleansing" and "FixVTS" or "VOBBlanker" can perform the final "cleansing", DVD Decrypter can continue to perform indefinitely as an intermediate ripper of problematic DVDs.

Of course its other uses continue unabated ;>}

[nwg]

I have been told that the Pgcedit Plugin is now dead and will very unlikely be updated anymore. It seems RipIt has taken its place. I still have it on my system but have only used it once since RipIt came out.

The plugin also cannot do the R2 UK Inside Man as well as R2 UK Hostel. RipIt went through both discs.

[blutach]

Gee that's sad news nwg, if true.

I still use the plugin's advanced features quite a lot. They are very instructive.

Regards

[Robinud]

hi SD, glad to meet you here too :)

well, explanation for ripit4me psl file and your proposed psl file (with all of first 512 sectors), is because ri4m takes a look, i think, at dvddecr log after rip end, and reads in which sectors dummy sectors are inserted, removing from initial psl file all those ranges are ripped without errors...
if you take a look at initial ri4m psl file, perhaps you will find such rows:
....
1:260,718
1:209683,210194
1:210195,210207
1:210208,213528
....

it's proof that, at initial phase, ri4m doesn't omit that 512 sectors range

ciao :)

[Sir Didymus]

...it's proof that, at initial phase, ri4m doesn't omit that 512 sectors range

Ciao Robinud !
Very nice to meet here some friends of the doom9 Italian forum...

Well, agreed...
it's a proof RipIt4Me process is very effective!

Cheers,
SD

[blutach]

Ciao Robinud !
Very nice to meet here some friends of the doom9 Italian forum...

Well, agreed...
it's a proof RipIt4Me process is very effective!

Cheers,
SDHere! Here! Welcome to Doom9 Robinud :D

Now, if only I could speak Italian and learn all the good things from all the smart Italian guys at doom9.it I do hope they can drop in here more often like SD does :)

Regards

[Robinud]

thanks for your welcome blu, this forum is a mine of a lot useful infos for my hobbies...
even we italian guy have to learn much from you and other valid people here

ciao :)