Official From MS: NO HD-DVD Blue-Ray on Vista 32 BIT

[XoDiuS]

i know is off topic, but i just wanted you to know.

theres an article in www.guru3d.com i noe theres gonna be a lot of happy users reading this.

ps: companies are getting more consumer friendly every day, but somehow i feel like in alcatraz. this is all bullshit.

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

NO HD-DVD and Blue-Ray support on Vista 32 BIT. That's fantastic news, guys, because we should use 64-bit instead 32-bit programs.

And, Microsoft doing right thing, you know. Their decision will force companies to development 64-bit programs, instead OLD crappy 32-bit.

If I am emploee at Microsoft, I would ban Vista 32 BIT.

[XoDiuS]

i cant agree with you, how can this be good, windows 64 bit has some issues with current software, now if i was to spend 200usd on vista 32, i might have a reason, lets say i wan to do this maybe cuz i dont want to spend more money on software wrtitten on 64bit and i want to keep my old apps that works just fine. (backwards compatability comes to mind?)

i have many programs that work for me in 32bit os why should i feel myself obligated, not only to buy vista 64(and hardware), but to buy the other apps as well, u see is not gonna be an easy transition to my wallet.

ps: why should u say that 32 bit applications are ''crapy''? i really think ppl should think twice, theres a diference betwen a smart consumer than just a ''hyped'' one.

[zambelli]

That's old news. The MS guy quoted in the story had it wrong. Read here:

http://news.com.com/2061-10794_3-6109427.html

I can guarantee you that no effort is being made in Vista to cripple x86 vs x64 functionality.

[XoDiuS]

i hope you are right.

[markrb]

It's seems it's just all the way you look at the word "Support". According to this article http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/25/microsoft_vista_no_32bit_hd/

MS is saying that 32-bit Vista will not natively play HD discs, but you can use third party software to play it. While 64-bit Vista will play HD discs natively.

Mark

[Doobie]

If 3rd-party software will support HD on 32-bit CPUs, I don't see any point of Microsoft crippling their 32-bit Vista.

Maybe they're afraid of customer dissatisfaction as most 32-bit systems don't have the horsepower to play full HD.

[dragongodz]

there is already a thread about this
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=115148

[zambelli]

MS is saying that 32-bit Vista will not natively play HD discs, but you can use third party software to play it. While 64-bit Vista will play HD discs natively.
No, that's not what MS is saying. There will be no crippling of any playback capability in 32-bit Vista. Period.

[markrb]

Do you have a link to that statement?

Mark

[sysKin]

What the guy MEANT to say was that third-party vendors might not release 32-bit versions of their software because such software is not protected from kernel-level rootkits that would rip the movie.

If this is ever true, it's just another example of completely misguided/incorrect attempt to stop piracy... again.

[Sirber]

And, Microsoft doing right thing, you know. Their decision will force companies to development 64-bit programs, instead OLD crappy 32-bit.How about the old crappy VFW you are still using? It's 13 years old man...

[Sirber]

An update to our earlier post, it turns out the 32-bit version of Windows Vista can play next-gen protected high definition content. Microsoft reps said Senior Program Manager Steve Riley was mistaken when he told a group of Australian developers that Vista couldn't handle the high definition movies.

But the Microsoft representatives said the support will come from third party HD DVD/Blu-ray movie playback software developers like CyberLink who already make DVD playback software. It's up to these developers to determine whether the environment they have set up will meet the environment criteria the "content owners" impose on manufacturers. So that probably no next-gen playback for Vista out of the box.

[markrb]

I wouldn't call this crippling as such.
It just seems that MS will not supply a way to play these movies on 32-bit Vista. They are not stopping others from doing it.

In the story I had linked previously it stated it was a driver security concern as:
"64-bit version of the operating system will natively play HD content as Microsoft hopes to be able to sign every driver".

Most people I know use 3rd party players anyway so I doubt this will have much impact.

Mark

[bond]

this is already discussed here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=115148

m$ now says this as a response

The real deal is that no version of Windows Vista will make a determination as to whether any given piece of content should play back or not. The individual ISV providing the playback solutions will choose whether the playback environment, including environments that use 32-bit processors, meet the performance requirements for playback of protected High Definition content.i assume this simply means "vista wont do it, but wmp will" ;)