How to use more than one subtitles in muxman

[LM2005]

The name of my message is probably not very clear, but I have encoded 13 mpeg-2 files. Also I have sup subtitles from each file.

I tried to make a simple dvd from them, but Muxman inserted all of them to the first file.

What I understand Muxmans ui is a bit limited and there is a script too. One of my questions is, what is the easiest way "for dummies" to put subtitles in right place, or is it right time?

FYI

I finally succeeded making subtitles from timecode of dv video files. One dv tape made 13 1G files. "End product" should be a dvd from the tape with timecode as subtitle.

[LM2005]

It seems I have find a new title.

[smok3]

cool, i would like to know how you did it? (converting dv timecodes to subs and dvd muxing and all?) - i needed that more than once before...

[bigotti5]

In standard version of muxman you cant use segments (from the GUI), only a list of mpeg files.
You have to merge your subs before inserting in muxman or upgrade to 0.16 or 0.17, there you can different use segments with their own subs.

[LM2005]

I planned to post here the programs I used when everything is working. I can post here what I used, during weekend, hopefully.

Using Muxman for muxing subtitles seemed so easy. Another problem is that I dont know how to make chapters with Muxman. So there is? only one large chapter.

To bigotti5: By segment you mean video/audiofile I quess. After that I have several questions and comments.

One subtitle program I used said something about merging subs. It also asked for videofiles for timing or something. I had no time to further tests so stopped there.

I use Muxman v15 because its free. Also its payment is via Paypal, which I connect to spam.

Is it possible to write a simple script for Muxman v15 to get subtitles in place?

[smok3]

muxman chapters is really just a simple ascii file, for example:

176
15186
30175
45175
60163

(you can just define those with hcenc and delete the 1st number)

[bigotti5]

muxman chapters is really just a simple ascii file, for example:

176
15186
30175
45175
60163

additional to smok3´s post
each number means a frame number where you wanna have a chapter (e.g. 1500 = 1 min for PAL)
Load this txt file via File - Import Chapter

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Is it possible to write a simple script for Muxman v15 to get subtitles in place?

looks like this

Section=Settings
{
Destination Folder=D:\
Create Default Nav=Yes
Item=Palette
{
Name=DefaultPalette
Color 0=0, 0, 255
Color 1=255, 0, 0
Color 2=0, 0, 0
Color 3=255, 255, 255
Color 4=0, 255, 0
Color 5=255, 0, 255
Color 6=255, 255, 0
Color 7=0, 125, 125
Color 8=125, 125, 125
Color 9=225, 225, 225
Color 10=125, 0, 0
Color 11=0, 125, 0
Color 12=0, 0, 125
Color 13=222, 0, 255
Color 14=222, 125, 0
Color 15=125, 0, 125
}
}
Section=Content
{
Item=Segment
{
Name=Segment_1
Display Mode=none
Resolution=none
Force=No
Item=Video Stream
{
Coding Mode=Mpeg-2
Standard=NTSC
CC Field 1=No
CC Field 2=No
Item=Video Play
{
File=D:\Path\Video2.m2v
Size=14965548
Duration=Actual
}
}
Item=Sub-Picture Stream
{
Stream Number=1
Language Extension=1
Display Mode=unspecified
Item=Sub-Picture Play
{
File=C:\00000001.bmp
Start=00:00:02:05
Forced Start=No
Time Code=NTSC
Duration=00:00:02:20
Origin=0,2
Display Area=0,2,703,477
Color 1(Pa)=ffffff = = =
Color 2(E1)=000000 = = =
Color 3(E2)=ffffff = = =
Color=3 3 4 3
Contr=15 0 15 0
}
}
Item=Scene List
{
Item=Scene
{
Name=Segment_1_scn1
Scene Time=00:00:00:00
Uop=00000000
}
}
}
Item=Segment
{
Name=Segment_2
Display Mode=none
Resolution=none
Force=No
Item=Video Stream
{
Coding Mode=Mpeg-2
Standard=NTSC
CC Field 1=No
CC Field 2=No
Item=Video Play
{
File=D:\Path\Video3.m2v
Size=25575144
Duration=Actual
}
}
Item=Sub-Picture Stream
{
Stream Number=1
Language Extension=1
Display Mode=unspecified
Item=Sub-Picture Play
{
File=C:\00000002.bmp
Start=00:00:02:05
Forced Start=No
Time Code=NTSC
Duration=00:00:02:20
Origin=0,2
Display Area=0,2,703,477
Color 1(Pa)=ffffff = = =
Color 2(E1)=000000 = = =
Color 3(E2)=ffffff = = =
Color=3 3 4 3
Contr=15 0 15 0
}
}
Item=Scene List
...............
...............
...............
{

Time in subs is relative to the segment video

[LM2005]

Thanks to you both. This is interesting.

In subtitle script there is *.bmp file. I have got *.sub or *.sup file for each video/audio file=segment. I dont remember which. No images. Can I just use sup/sub files instead of pictures?

[bigotti5]

You cant use sub files in muxman
sst (script and bmp) and sup is possible

use sup as shown

Item=Sub-Picture Stream
{
Stream Number=1
Language Extension=1
Display Mode=unspecified
File=D:\Path\Subpictures_20.sup
}

[LM2005]

I will try it on weekend.

[LM2005]

I returned a bit earlier than thought. So here are some useful links. I'll include some short notes. This is a bit off topic. So if needed we probably should continue on an other forum.

http://www.skydiver.de/stef/datecode_en.htm good links
has this link
http://video2dv.com/ here you get Dvd sub maker. This "makes" subtitle files from video.

Also SubtitleCreator is needed. It is from http://sourceforge.net/projects/subtitlecreator
You "open text subtitle" and save sup.

Thanks to the programmers.

This is a quick list, there may be errors if I forgot something.



I hate (and love) {} and now I am looking at scripts.
I have some questions about script but no time. So i'll be back.

[LM2005]

Question about script to put everything together. Sound, video and subtitles.

I modified bigotti5's script to try my own, but it didnt work. At least Muxman log said "Rejected, unknown file type F:\dv\skas0014.sup". What is wrong? The script is in attachment. But perhaps the easieast way is, if I can see a working script with more than one file and subtitles. It is probably quite easy to modify.

An other question is: there is "size" after each video and audio file. Is it size in bytes?

[mpucoder]

Question about script to put everything together. Sound, video and subtitles.

I modified bigotti5's script to try my own, but it didnt work. At least Muxman log said "Rejected, unknown file type F:\dv\skas0014.sup". What is wrong? the file is not a .sup or .sst file
An other question is: there is "size" after each video and audio file. Is it size in bytes?Yes, but it does not matter as the value is not checked.
You might want to refer to 0.15 mxp documentation (http://www.mpucoder.com/Muxman/std/mxp/index.html)
There should only be one block for each section, but I can't think of anything that would go wrong with multiple section declarations - it's just a way for the parser to know the context of later statements.