FairUse4WM - a WM/DRM removal program

[zunefun]

what dose this mean? Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

[omjeremy]

Dude, read post 995. I don't mean to be rude, but... c'mon. This problem has been brought up countless time in the thread.

[zunefun]

i am not that good with these kinda of things...so if you dont mind me asking i need help...just i dont know what i am reading i honestly just need this spoon fed to me..in a way..but i just really want to know what i means from my take on this whole thing is that it ment i have to wait for an update? call me slow if you want i just want to strip this music and be done with the whole deal

[zunefun]

Sorry but this means your iPod won't be seeing any songs any time soon because your Individualized Black Box DLL (IndivBox.key, the file that does all the DRM "donkey work") has been automatically updated by your music service to a version that's newer than FairUse4WM 1.3 can handle.

Just to sum up:
"IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet."
means
"IT WILL NOT WORK".

Some people have been able to "roll back" their Windows Media Player installations, with varied results, but any rollback procedure will destroy any existing licenses for downloaded music that you may have, so your music provider would have to allow redownloads.

OOOO...SO WHAT DO I DO NOW? JUST WAIT?

[WalterK]

Zunefun you COULD try a virtual machine with either vmware or microsofts virtual pc.
Install windows XP (assuming you have your XP install/upgrade disc) on it and run the beta version of wmp 11 if your purchase requires it , if not stick with wmp 10 and remove drm from in the virtual pc and simply transfer the drm free files to your vista music folder.
Until there is an update to FairUse to combat the new IBX this is the way I recommend if you updated wmp or are in vista.

Edit
And remember wmp11 does not allow license backups, ms says its the responsibility of the content provider and not them to ensure that

[zunefun]

Zunefun you COULD try a virtual machine with either vmware or microsofts virtual pc.
Install windows XP (assuming you have your XP install/upgrade disc) on it and run the beta version of wmp 11 if your purchase requires it , if not stick with wmp 10 and remove drm from in the virtual pc and simply transfer the drm free files to your vista music folder.
Until there is an update to FairUse to combat the new IBX this is the way I recommend if you updated wmp or are in vista.

Edit
And remember wmp11 does not allow license backups, ms says its the responsibility of the content provider and not them to ensure that

lamonds terms please..

[zunefun]

so i was told all i need to do was just switch over to wmp nine?

[zunefun]

so i was advised that i should un install windows media player 11 then go to windows media player nine..so anyone know where i could pick up nine at?

[omjeremy]

zunefun, follow the directions here: http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=instructions

[zunefun]

thanks...!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad props...ill try it when i get home from work!

[blutach]

OOOO...SO WHAT DO I DO NOW? JUST WAIT?This is uncalled for. Read and observe the rules please - especially rule 2 on how to behave and rule 12 on bumping (which you continue to do).

Regards

[mayan6174]

Some download mirror

WMP 11 Beta2
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=E25574D66E69C29C&key=74b2e390a54fb1932237a81c43687d39bd7c2df5

FairUse4WM 1.3 Fix
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=305601813BCA14B3&key=ac7c60acb8105af7ede664cf3e3073a3a6216d2b

Expire 2weeks

Thank you

[NHS]

Hi

I am trying to extract keys using FairUse4WM 1.3fix - when i try to extract the keys, i get the following message:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv03.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

I have tried rolling the installation back to v10 but that didnt work, any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks

[WalterK]

IBX 11.0.6000.6324 is not supported so it will not work.

To get back to a version that will work requires a clean install of windows media player.
Either by following the method posted by omjeremy above or moving your music to a virtual install of windows with an earlier version of wmp and trying to remove the drm that way.
Note in the virtual pc or on your real one if you use omjeremy's method.
NEVER UPGRADE wmp.
If your licenses call for an upgrade to wmp 11 use beta 2 or beta 3 of it.

[NHS]

Thanks for the reply.

My laptop was initially running WMP11 (latest version) - i have downgraded to WMP10 but still get the message "IBX 11.0.6000.6324 is not supported".

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

[Oneill5491]

I don't know if there was a post about this earlier, but is there a way to stop WMP from asking you if you would like to install the available update (from beta 2 to final)? It keeps frickin asking me like every 30 minutes and one of these days I'm going to accidently click "yes".

[WalterK]

NHS you have to delete the folder called DRM in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\ (enable show hidden files and folders in windows explorer) if its a downgrade.
and reverify the Indiv Key.
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite

Note doing this REMOVES all your licenses so you WILL have to do the whole username/password thing again for all your drm media.

Which is why the virtual machine method is better, encase it doesn't take you will still have your drm licenses on your real pc.

Oneill5491 you will have to be vigilante there is supposed to be a setting to disable update notification in wmp11 beta .
Maybe i am wrong about that.

[NHS]

WalterK

Thanks for your reply.

When i enable hidden folders, there is no DRM folder when I navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\.

I can go straight to the directory by putting C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\ into to address bar, but when I do this, nothing is in the DRM folder.

Any suggestions appreciated.

[WalterK]

Its been a while since i had to remove windows drm.
After i got the drm off my files i ditched and have never again bought windows crippled drm files in any form.

If in XP and your drm folder is not there in C:\Documents and Settings\
Make sure show hidden folders is enabled (i know you already said it is but never hurts to check again) In Windows Explorer (you won't find this option in Internet Explorer two different programs) go to Tools->Folder Options.
Then Select The "View" Tab look for the heading Hidden Files and Folders and make sure "show hidden files and folders" is checked click Apply next look and see if "hide extension for known file types" and "hide protectecd operating system files" is unchecked if they are not uncheck them then hit Apply again, then Ok. Leave there and look in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users" again, if its still not there head over to the Control Panel.

Go to add remove programs make sure "Show Updates" is checked and look for anything ANYTHING related to windows media player 11 and uninstall specifically you are looking for is "windows media player runtime" to remove but it doesn't hurt to remove anything else (somewhere in this thread is a listing of "safe" security updates for wmp aka updates that don't cause you to lose drm removal)
Restart/reboot after the uninstall look once more "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users.
If you still see nothing, try to launch wmp depending on what type of upgrade you did for wmp it might revert back to version 9 or 10 or give you an error about missing this file or that file and needs to be reinstalled.
At this point you have 3 choices you can.
1) Revert to wmp 9 using your XP install disc by adding it via add/remove programs and use the Indiv site to get the wmp Indiv Key.
2) Install ms version of wmp 10 that you can download from the ms wmp site, again after installing using the Indiv site to get the Indiv key.
2) Or install wmp 11 beta 2 from some links given in here and once again visiting the Indiv site to get a previous version of the Indiv key that works with Fair use.

Now of all the choices choice 3 is the safest bet cause if you use 9 or 10 the site in question might require an upate to version 11 and they will use wmp 11 final and then you are right back where you started.
Once they see you are using wmp 11 most sites won't try to get you to update, what you might get is ms telling you to update from beta to final with the little popup boxes of theirs in wmp.

Hope this helps if after all this it STILL doesn't work.
Find yourself a copy of Nlite (google search) make a slip stream install of XP from your XP install disc (Make it small with windows media player 10 or 11 beta 2 added instead of the default wmp 09, Nlite has info on how to incorporate software and software updates into the custom install disc) Get yourself a copy of virtual pc or vmware server (google search and both are free) give yourself some free space on your harddrive (3 to 5 gbs) and create a virtual machine and drm remove from there.

[NHS]

WalterK, thanks for the reply. Once i can see the DRM folder, should i delete the folder or just a file inside?

[WalterK]

The whole folder just to be on the safe side.

[SalSimp]

I don't know if there was a post about this earlier, but is there a way to stop WMP from asking you if you would like to install the available update (from beta 2 to final)?

Yes there is. . . .

1. Reboot Windows in SAFE Mode
2. Go to Program Files>Windows Media Player
3. Find setup_wm.exe
4. Rename it to anything else (e.g. setup_wm0.exe)
5. Reboot Windows

Works also by deleting setup_wm.exe, but renaming is better just in case you want o put it back. There may be other ways of avoiding the nag, but this one works for me.

Note: You have to be in SAFE Mode or else the Windows File Protection feature will put a new setup_wm.exe in the directory.

[mysekurity]

What is it about Beta 2 that allows you to not have to have the newest ibx? If I have an original installer for WMP11 Final when it first came out, will that work when moving to a new computer?

[Oneill5491]

Yes there is. . . .

1. Reboot Windows in SAFE Mode
2. Go to Program Files>Windows Media Player
3. Find setup_wm.exe
4. Rename it to anything else (e.g. setup_wm0.exe)
5. Reboot Windows

Works also by deleting setup_wm.exe, but renaming is better just in case you want o put it back. There may be other ways of avoiding the nag, but this one works for me.

Note: You have to be in SAFE Mode or else the Windows File Protection feature will put a new setup_wm.exe in the directory.
Hey thanks for the tip man.

Btw, is it pretty much a given now that the author of FairUse won't be comming back to make a new version?

[blutach]

Who knows O'Neill? He might be among us still. No-one's crystal ball is any better than yours.

Regards

[mysekurity]

Well, since no one responded to my last few posts, I decided to test it out for myself, and I can conclusively say that Urge's AutoMix update does not update your ibx. It's a truly great feature that clues me into what I should buy, and I highly recommend it to all Urge users.

So there ya go. In case anyone else was wondering...

[NHS]

WalterK

Thanks for your help - that worked a treat.

[zunefun]

okay so i gave up...is there anything eles besides this program?

[Itsdon]

Try Tunebite. Not as elegant, not free, but it works.

[WalterK]

tunebite creates a lossy format.
If this is for audio i'd say you are better off using a freeware app than can record your audio while its playing and save it to uncompressed wav.
Like say Audacity.
Note Audacity will not playback wma files protected or not but it can record audio that is playing on your pc.

[hicux]

why people dont change the subject? We are repeating the same story here all the time. Let's talk about something new plz? FairUSEWM 1.3 is working so good with me but u need to roll back to windows media player 9. I am not going to discuss this anymore. Good Luck!

[blutach]

Yes. I agree. People who ask the same question over and over are simply not using the very good search feature on the board.

Let us not go into how to make this program work ad infinitum.

Regards

[CademiaX]

found a work around for using the lastest version of fairuse4wm with the lastest version of wmp11 and ibx.

If you cant get back to wmp10, get a program like vmware or virtual pc, and install windows xp with wmp10.

Now I figured this out by mistake, install your music service under the virtual pc, use fairuse4wm to recover the keys..

the keys are stored in my documents as blackbox-keys.txt, simply copy that to your real desktop and close virtual pc.

put blackbox-keys.txt in my documents, run fairuse4wm, add protected music and enjoy using the lastest version of wmp11

[mysekurity]

Just as a warning, MS is pushing Update 929399 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929399) to counter a service's inabilty to "extract metering data from some portable devices that support metering" through its Windows Update automatic update program. This update includes IBX 11.0.6, which is a definite bad thing. To avoid the update, chose the "custom install" option when prompted, and uncheck it. Click "next" and then "don't ask me to install this again".

[mysekurity]

Windows Media Player is forcing me to update "a security component". Any way around this? Probably not, correct?

[setarip_old]

@mysekurity

Check out the listings at the following link (scroll about 1/3 down re: "disabling"):

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Windows+Update%22+and+%22settings&btnG=Google+Search

[Itsdon]

found a work around for using the lastest version of fairuse4wm with the lastest version of wmp11 and ibx.

If you cant get back to wmp10, get a program like vmware or virtual pc, and install windows xp with wmp10.

Now I figured this out by mistake, install your music service under the virtual pc, use fairuse4wm to recover the keys..

the keys are stored in my documents as blackbox-keys.txt, simply copy that to your real desktop and close virtual pc.

put blackbox-keys.txt in my documents, run fairuse4wm, add protected music and enjoy using the lastest version of wmp11

Interesting. Any idea if using this under Vista will work?

[mysekurity]

@setarip_old: I've ignored the automatic update (I was alerting others so that they would not fall for it).

WMP told me that I needed to update my security component in order to stream one of the songs. Eventually and reluctantly, I agreed to the upgrade (not the player upgrade). It processed, and allowed me to stream the song, but not download it. I restarted the player, and found it was still the same version, I could download/stream songs, and still use FU4WM. I haven't yet restarted, so I'm not sure if that kills it, but I doubt it.


@Itsdon: The virtual machine will work under vista with WinXP installed on the virtual machine, but vista's WMP is at 11.0.6, which is too great of a version for FU4WM, and its protected system files won't allow any modifications. Until a workaround is created, Vista users must use a virtual machine with XP in order for the program to work.

[StreamRipper]

Can someone post a valid link for FU4WMCommander, 'coz the old one no longer works.

Please help!

[StreamRipper]

Please stop asking the same questions over and over again. Use the forum search to find the answers first!

Here are some direct links that will simplify your search efforts:


Help to remove DRM on Windows Vista (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1017)
Download Fairuse4WM 1.4 for free (will there ever be any upgrade to FU4WM?) (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=852)
Batch DRM removal with FairUse4wm: UnDRM multiple Window Media files at once with FU4WMCommander (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=965)
FairUse4WM error: filename.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you
(http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=887)
FairUse4WM error: No keys loaded (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=872)
FairUse4WM error: UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Windows Error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store
(http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=865)
FairUse4WM error: different private key (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=742)
unDRMing without a license. (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367)
How to crack Windows Media Player DRM (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/removing-DRM/faq-crack-Windows-Media-Player-DRM.htm)
DRM removal software (Not only FairUse4WM and Tunebite) (http://all-streaming-media.com/remove-DRM-protection/)
How to remove DRM from Windows Media Player files with fu4wm13fix (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/removing-DRM/faq-how-to-remove-DRM-from-Windows-Media-Player-files-with-fu4wm13fix.htm)
Windows Media Player Individualization Process (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/removing-DRM/faq-Windows-Media-Player-Individualization-Process.htm)
How to uninstall and roll back Windows Media Player to a previous version (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/media-players/faq-Windows-Media-Player-Uninstall-and-roll-back-to-previous-version.htm)
Free download of Windows Media Player 11, 10, 9, 7.1, 6.4 for Windows, Mac OS and Windows Mobile (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/media-players/faq-free-download-of-Windows-Media-player.htm)

[nick852]

The official method to disable Automatic Updates with Windows Media Player is described here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278960.

To insert the necessary value for WMP 7.0 or later automatically into your registry, you can download the file http://rapidshare.com/files/24461662/DisableWMPAutoUpdate.reg.html.

[xwings]

norton AV is very shitty like a blind guardian :-)


You guys are funny...
I have comcast and they offer free Mcafee.
That's popup warning screen keep poping up every second that I click something. It's just so annoying. I uninstalled it and install Avast the free version instead. It looks much cooler too...

[TehMark]

Microsoft dropped their case against this dood. Sweet!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/

[resource]

Microsoft dropped the suit, so hopefully FairUse 1.4 will appear soon.

[killerhamster]

Well, I don't think so, engadget sais M$ dropped the case because they just couldn't find him, so now if he releases 1.4 they would just reopen the case. Plus, if he wasn't in prison all the time he had the opportunity to work on 1.4, and I think the reason why we're still using 1.3 is just because WMP11 is so hard to crack, and not that viodentia could not release it or work on it because he was searched by the Police or Microsoft or who ever.

[WalterK]

i'm glad that the john doe lawsuit has been dropped and i am also glad for folks like myang and viodentia with their removal tools, but the only way to stop this folks is to stop purchasing drm music.
Once i had my drm off i stopped buying drm infused music tracks.
In the beginning i can say i didn't know any better but now i do.

[Deihmos]

i'm glad that the john doe lawsuit has been dropped and i am also glad for folks like myang and viodentia with their removal tools, but the only way to stop this folks is to stop purchasing drm music.
Once i had my drm off i stopped buying drm infused music tracks.
In the beginning i can say i didn't know any better but now i do.

You and I know that people are not purchasing DRM music then using this tool. People are renting the music through the music subscriptions then removing the DRM from the music. If you purchased the music you can burn it to a CD or convert it to MP3 to remove the DRM.

[SalSimp]

blutach: you are most correct. I have deleted the comment.

[blutach]

This discussion about lawsuits etc is well off topic.

Regards

[bigdog660]

You and I know that people are not purchasing DRM music then using this tool. People are renting the music through the music subscriptions then removing the DRM from the music. If you purchased the music you can burn it to a CD or convert it to MP3 to remove the DRM.

Speak for yourself.

[blutach]

Back on topic please. Last warning.

Rants etc belong elsewhere.

Regards

[rdn98]

What is the link to the one program where not only does it remove the drm for you, but it also renames your files to take off the [NODRM] tag?

[NokiaFanatic]

I use tag and rename for that. It works great as you can download a cover album art picture for use in itunes,If you havce the whole cd that is, as well as grab when it was made, what record company, a description of the music cd, ect. But all i use it for is to grab the correct way of the song titles and cover art. I normally go for full cds when i download. A sickness I have. I have over 80 gigs of music and some i dont even like - but hey - it was avalible. Plus i transfered a lot of cds of y parents to mp3.

Ohg thats another program i use. DB poweramp. I transfer everything to .mp3 instead of wma. That way my ipod will play it along with any other device compatabile of mp3.

My progress is download music - umm purchase music is the official way - then strip the drm, then convert to mp3, then take the full album and put into tag and rename to grab album art and offical titles. A lengthy process, but my collection is for the most part very good.

[lucas2365]

What is the absolute latest version of WMP11 that FairUse4WM will work with? I've done a clean install of XP and want to use FU4M with WMP11 but without the instability of the beta versions.

[bearshat]

WMP 11 beta 2.

I asked this question last month and got a very good answer that can be found near the bottom of page 50 of this thread.

[FredThompson]

That link is expired. FairUse4WM 2006-12-09 FIX (formerly 2006-11-27) is the most recent I've found. Unfortunately, there have been some updates since then which means...newer downloads are still locked. Grrrr...

[rdn98]

The tag and rename program is awesome! It makes it easy to rename those mp3 files now.

If you really need fairuse4wm, there are torrents available it looks like.

[mysekurity]

Version 11.0.5**** (as long as it's not 11.0.6 or higher, you're good).

[mysekurity]

The program you're thinking of is FairUse Commander. I can't find a link for it anymore, but it's the most useful renamer because it integrates so well into FU4WM

[asm108]

Hope it works

[asm108]

got fairuse v.2 and can't get it to strip drm? What's up?

[blutach]

asm108 - your posts are essentially meaningless and do not enable anyone to help you.

No-one here has a crystal ball. You will need to describe your problem in detail. Failing that, please do not make further meaningless posts - see rule 11.

Regards

[hicux]

Hi to everybody! Long time no see u! Im so happy that Mocosoft couldnt find V yet, xD. the version 1.3 fix is still working and I will upload the commander and the fix now. Good Luck!!
hicux

[hicux]

Ok! Here I am again and this time I uploaded all the files u need guys. Plz. Try to use Windows Media 9 and dont update or upgrade anything otherwise u will be edited.. Enjoy and good luck!

http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=3K38FIAY

[hicux]

Now I am gonna change the name of the file but it will be the same file so u have alternatives links to download it. Why did i change the file with another name because sometimes they dont realize it is DRM tool, so maybe they dont delete this file. Anyway I can upload it anywhere.

http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=53EE2LJS

P.S if u need the file again. Just ask me!

[hicux]

Hey Blutach! Sorry if put it down with going through the rules but I needed to express myself what i really feel about mocosoft. I remember when I was watching the news 2 months ago and microsoft said that he will give 10 000 dollars if someone hack the code in Windows Vista! I guess they should give the amount already 'cause there are a lot of toys to activate Windows Vista and etc... I guess V will come soon with FairUse1.4.

[rdn98]

Finally fairuse commander, thanks dude!

[blutach]

I dunno about hacking Vista (any discussion is strictly against rule 6), but I wish you'd learn what the edit button is there for. 4 posts in a row in short time is bewildering.

And, mind the language please - all members should realise that this forum is open to the public and that includes young enthusiasts.

Regards

[Airlik]

You and I know that people are not purchasing DRM music then using this tool. People are renting the music through the music subscriptions then removing the DRM from the music. If you purchased the music you can burn it to a CD or convert it to MP3 to remove the DRM.

Perhaps some folks are... I just used it to buy the tune (I have no problem paying for music - just hate DRM because my iHP140 won't play that crap) and remove the DRM without going through the lossy steps of burning and re-ripping. I had a few too many beers one night and for some reason let Windows Update install their v11 WMP. Now I've just stopped buying DRM music - who loses there? eMusic doesn't have all the music I'd like it to, but at least I can pay for it, compensate the artists, and not have crippled music files.

[FredThompson]

Burning to CD then making an MP3 takes longer, costs more and results in lower quality. Try playing DRM from a portable player which is plugged into a dash player, laptop or receiver and used as a storage device...

[mantis2k]

Is anyone able to remove the license from this file using fu4wm13fix.exe?

Link removed

I'm having trouble using fu4wm13fix.exe + WMP9 under Windows 2000.

[blutach]

@mantis2k

Please do not post links to DRM protected material. See rule 6.

Regards

[asm108]

I see and read about this program... but where is the actual download?

[asm108]

oops... sorry

[asm108]

I can't seem to find a valid link to this program. So very frustrating :(

[rdn98]

http://download.yousendit.com/4CCB0EDF2A64466F

[milOtis]

I have FairUse4WM working under Vista by using VitualPC 2007 (free from Microsoft) to run Windows XP within Vista

It's kinda funny...I'm running Windows XP emulated in Windows Vista on an Apple iMac :) Hehe

Anyway, it works great since FairUse4WM and Windows Media Player think they are running in Windows XP, so I just used my same old 12-09 fix to manually downgrade after I had gotten all the Windows updates.

::: milOtis

[joshcali]

ok, I get this error when I try to "recover keys"

"IBX components do not appear to be present"

when I clicik ok, I get this error:

"FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information.

"DRMClien.DLL has version 10.0.0.3802"

any ideas ? I tried playing a file from
ezdrm.com, but it didn't do anything so far...

[joshcali]

also, I'm still using windows media player 9
(never upgraded I think...)

[joshcali]

also... a little more info... when I go to this link:
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

the upgrade button is grayed out, and my windows media player is
9.00.00.3349

[ratmaster9]

The easiest solution that I have found to work as long as you follow it word for word is at http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm . So long as you follow it word for word, and you meet all the requirements listed on their site, it should work. Its worked for the 5 computers I've set it up on and a few of my friends too... Give it a shot, as its worth a try.

[milOtis]

The easiest solution that I have found to work as long as you follow it word for word is at http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm . So long as you follow it word for word, and you meet all the requirements listed on their site, it should work. Its worked for the 5 computers I've set it up on and a few of my friends too... Give it a shot, as its worth a try.
um..lol...yep, the same instructions that i posted back in november. still works.

::: milOtis

[Itsdon]

I have FairUse4WM working under Vista by using VitualPC 2007 (free from Microsoft) to run Windows XP within Vista

It's kinda funny...I'm running Windows XP emulated in Windows Vista on an Apple iMac :) Hehe

Anyway, it works great since FairUse4WM and Windows Media Player think they are running in Windows XP, so I just used my same old 12-09 fix to manually downgrade after I had gotten all the Windows updates.

::: milOtis
According to MS Virtual PC download site VPC won't work on Vista Premium, is that correct? If so, that bites. Perhaps I should simply install Windows XP and dual boot. I'd rather use VPC within Vista though - has anyone tried to install it under Vista Premium?

[ratmaster9]

They arn't the same...

Anyways... it would have helped if I had read your posts... it would have cut down the time I speant figuring this out...

[hicux]

I hope Viodentia comes back with the new version of his amazing toy. Come on Viodentia. We both are waiting for...
Anyway, wherever u are u made a wonderful job and that makes sense and credit. U win!!hope to see u soon buddy!:thanks:

[hicux]

What kind of software did Viodentia use to make such a wonderful program? Any clue to try to update something.

[hicux]

hey admin, u are really annoying with your rules. I guess I didnt do anything wrong. Im sick and tired of you rules, I guess u dont have anything to do than try to correct any word or expression. Can u help more instead of writing who makes this and that?? I cant believe it!

[milOtis]

Virtual PC 2007 runs on Vista Ultimate just fine. I haven't tested other versions of Vista, because I only have Ultimate

::: milOtis

[CER22]

Hello everyone! I've been downloading video from unbox and removing the drm. For the first time lastnight I got an error for just one of the videos. It would show that it removed the drm then it would show an error and delete the undrm video. Anyone know what could be wrong? The video is downloaded completely and plays fine with drm.

UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 3472328296227680304 cannot be truncated to 808464432.

EDIT: I found a way around this. As the fairuse was removing the drm, i played the undrm video file in WMP until fairuse was finished then the fairuse error came up and i hit close. Since the undrm video was still playing it wouldn't automatically delete. So all is ok!

[milOtis]

2007-04-29 Fix for WMP11/DRM running Windows VISTA (or XP):
INCLUDES: Windows Media Player 11.0.5705.5043 + FairUse4WM 1.3(fix) + instructions

mirror links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PNEG9F20

http://rapidshare.com/files/28495302/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2007_04_29_DRM_FIX.zip

http://files-upload.com/197061/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html


NOTE: This is intended for people running Windows Vista as their main OS. These instructions include how to set up Virtual PC within Vista, and get FairUseWM working again. All you need is a Windows XP disc.

(Tested under Home Basic/Premium, Business, and Ultimate). This ALSO works on XP...you can just run an older version of XP within Virtual PC on your updated XP host OS.

Here it is working, I installed Virtual PC yesterday, and Windows XP today, so this is 100% working and can be done by anyone using Vista. I am doing this on an intel MAC, so anyone should be able to do this.

Screenshot:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7043/20070429drmfixez0.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070429drmfixez0.jpg)

::: milOtis

[milOtis]

P.S. - You can installed Virtual PC on XP also, so you can run an older version of XP on your more updated version of XP. That way if you can get your main host OS to work with FairUse4WM, then you can at least get the virtual PC one to work with it, so these instructions work for anyone who needs FairUse4WM to work. This is a guaranteed method, since you are doing a clean install of XP in your virtual machine, and as long as you don't update it will keep working.

The "2007-04-29" fix should be the end to everyone's problems...just load Virtual PC and just run a more out-of-date XP within your main OS. All you will be using it for is downloading music and FairUse4WM so you only need to tell Virtual PC to allocate like 128mb ram while it's running...You can also set up a shared folder to move the new un-DRM'd files back over to your host OS, so it's just like having another networked computer.

[Sx66gns]

2007-04-29 Fix for WMP11/DRM running Windows VISTA (or XP):
INCLUDES: Windows Media Player 11.0.5705.5043 + FairUse4WM 1.3(fix) + instructions

mirror links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PNEG9F20

http://rapidshare.com/files/28495302/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2007_04_29_DRM_FIX.zip

http://files-upload.com/197061/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html


NOTE: This is intended for people running Windows Vista as their main OS. These instructions include how to set up Virtual PC within Vista, and get FairUseWM working again. All you need is a Windows XP disc.

(Tested under Home Basic/Premium, Business, and Ultimate). This ALSO works on XP...you can just run an older version of XP within Virtual PC on your updated XP host OS.

Here it is working, I installed Virtual PC yesterday, and Windows XP today, so this is 100% working and can be done by anyone using Vista. I am doing this on an intel MAC, so anyone should be able to do this.

Screenshot:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7043/20070429drmfixez0.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070429drmfixez0.jpg)

::: milOtis

lol , jesus man.

[CademiaX]

So after hours of digging around about stuff on vista I figured out how to remove WMP11 and install WMP10, I will post an indepth tutorial on how do it either later tonight or tomorrow!

[milOtis]

So after hours of digging around about stuff on vista I figured out how to remove WMP11 and install WMP10, I will post an indepth tutorial on how do it either later tonight or tomorrow!

the people who use URGE will need WMP11 to even run URGE, so that wouldn't help those users, that's why i posted the fix...makes WMP11 work (which helps all users no matter what service you use, urge or not)

[bigjohn]

guys -
bought a bunch of songs... need to convert them to mp3 so they'll play in my new car deck. Anyone point me to a quick tutorial to get this software installed and working on win2k?

[mysekurity]

After they've been un-drm'd, you can use dbPoweramp. Download it, and it'll work like a dream.

(You'll need the wma plugin, however)

[mysekurity]

Let me just throw on my two cents, however...

It's OK to install most Windows updates. All critical updates are fine to install, it's the optional ones you gotta look out for, and even then most are clean (just make sure to look at the KB article to see what they're updating. The only update I've seen that forces you to update your IBX is one I detailed in a previous post).

Be safe!

[bigjohn]

After they've been un-drm'd, you can use dbPoweramp. Download it, and it'll work like a dream.

(You'll need the wma plugin, however)
who is this reply directed to??

[mysekurity]

who is this reply directed to??

You. You asked for a way of converting wmas to mp3s....

Or am I missing something?

[crazyjackcracker]

Maybe I am missing the point of the virtual PC, or my install is messed up. when I start up the VPC I can not access my "real" hard drive, only the "virtual" one. is this normal, or is there something I am missing here?

[CademiaX]

the people who use URGE will need WMP11 to even run URGE, so that wouldn't help those users, that's why i posted the fix...makes WMP11 work (which helps all users no matter what service you use, urge or not)

Well I dont use urge, I bet more ppl dont then do on here, and for those ppl I will show how this is done.

besides, VPC has to be the most time consuming way to go about it, why not just get a windows live cd.. thats how i was doing it, and I dont have to worry about moving files back and forth from VPC to my HDD.

I will be posting how to install WMP 10 on vista shorty!

[milOtis]

Maybe I am missing the point of the virtual PC, or my install is messed up. when I start up the VPC I can not access my "real" hard drive, only the "virtual" one. is this normal, or is there something I am missing here?


virtual pc is like having a virtual computer...runs on a virtual harddrive on your main harddrive. if you want access to your main computer, set up a shared folder. that's what i did on my virtual XP machine...then i also made that shared folder the direct download location of my URGE files, so i could go in, unDRM then, then access them from my main harddrive running Vista. It's a snap!

if you are talking about just being able to get your mouse out of the virtual pc windows, back onto your main desktop, just hold down the right ALT key while dragging the mouse out.

::: milOtis

[CademiaX]

Install Windows Media Player 10 on Vista 32/64-bit!

1. Boot Into SAFE MODE! (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx?mfr=true) - This won't work if you dont!

2. Disable Application Compatibility - This won't work if you dont!

A. Click Start, type "gpedit.msc" in the Start Search bar, press enter.

B. Expand "Administrative Templates", then expand "Windows Components",
find "Application Compatibility" (2nd one under Windows Components).

C. Double click "Remove Program Compatibility Property Page", Select enable,
then click "Next Setting" at the bottom.

D. Repeat Untill all settings are enabled.

3. Download Windows Media Player 10 With auto batch installer! - Created by me! :cool:
A. Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/28846725/321.rar.html

B. Extract the archive and right click on "Install.bat", click edit. Then click
Edit > Replace, Find what: Bobby | Replace with: *Your Vista User Name!*,
click replace all, save and exit.

C. Then run the included batch file "Install.bat"! (This is all automated,
if it askes you if you want to overwrite something, then the file is being used
by another process and cant be accessed, if it does happen, exit, make sure
you are in safe mode and that no other programs are running and run the
Install.bat again)

D. Follow the WMP10 installer instructions. (If it says wmp10 is already installed,
browse to \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\ and run wmplayer.exe, and if
that tells you file xxxx is version 10.xx, expecting version 11.xx, arrange icons by name,
select all the .inf files, right click > install, one wont work, it will tell you and the
rest will continue, after that run \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe)

4. Security component upgrade
A. Visit (IE ONLY): http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

[milOtis]

Well I dont use urge, I bet more ppl dont then do on here,

wrong buddy. it's $10 a month for unlimited downloads...they don't charge by the track, there are millions of users.

FYI - A Windows Live CD??? come on, you have to reboot into Windows Live to use it, then reboot your computer to get back into your regular Windows...what a pain. Once your VPC is set up, you can save the state of the desktop, so restarting it takes about 5 seconds, and you don't have to ever leave your original desktop. You can move files back and forth freely, that is why I posted this fix, works for XP users, Vista users, and ANY music download service, not just the few that only need WMP10 instead of 11.

::: milOtis

[Itsdon]

2007-04-29 Fix for WMP11/DRM running Windows VISTA (or XP):
INCLUDES: Windows Media Player 11.0.5705.5043 + FairUse4WM 1.3(fix) + instructions

mirror links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PNEG9F20

http://rapidshare.com/files/28495302/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2007_04_29_DRM_FIX.zip

http://files-upload.com/197061/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html


NOTE: This is intended for people running Windows Vista as their main OS. These instructions include how to set up Virtual PC within Vista, and get FairUseWM working again. All you need is a Windows XP disc.

(Tested under Home Basic/Premium, Business, and Ultimate). This ALSO works on XP...you can just run an older version of XP within Virtual PC on your updated XP host OS.

Here it is working, I installed Virtual PC yesterday, and Windows XP today, so this is 100% working and can be done by anyone using Vista. I am doing this on an intel MAC, so anyone should be able to do this.

Screenshot:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7043/20070429drmfixez0.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070429drmfixez0.jpg)

::: milOtis

Microsoft says VPC 2007 won't work with Vista Premium (which I have) only Business or Ultimate. You say you've run this on Premium and Home, was there anything special you had to do to get it running or is MS lying about what versions it will install on?

[CademiaX]

wrong buddy. it's $10 a month for unlimited downloads...they don't charge by the track, there are millions of users.

FYI - A Windows Live CD??? come on, you have to reboot into Windows Live to use it, then reboot your computer to get back into your regular Windows...what a pain. Once your VPC is set up, you can save the state of the desktop, so restarting it takes about 5 seconds, and you don't have to ever leave your original desktop. You can move files back and forth freely, that is why I posted this fix, works for XP users, Vista users, and ANY music download service, not just the few that only need WMP10 instead of 11.

::: milOtis

Well, that saves me lots and TONS of resources.. and it took me about 20min to make a custom windows live cd, which btw i can boot in VPC or standalone ;) .. so win win compared to having a whole other OS virtually installed..

beside, WMP10 is working on vista with no problems, which means those versions of wmp11 that work with fairuse4wm can be installed too.. already did that btw.. works wonders :)

and Its gunna be an auto batch install like wmp10, no mess, just working software for all the music pirates out and about.

AND.. thats 2 ways we have beat M$ at the DRM game, so be happy and let ppl choose what they perfer and stop getting alll defensive about...

[neuron2]

and Its gunna be an auto batch install like wmp10, no mess, just working software for all the music pirates out and about Offering help to pirates violates our forum rules. Please don't discuss that here.

[milOtis]

Well, that saves me lots and TONS of resources.. and it took me about 20min to make a custom windows live cd, which btw i can boot in VPC or standalone ;) .. so win win compared to having a whole other OS virtually installed..

beside, WMP10 is working on vista with no problems, which means those versions of wmp11 that work with fairuse4wm can be installed too.. already did that btw.. works wonders :)

and Its gunna be an auto batch install like wmp10, no mess, just working software for all the music pirates out and about.

AND.. thats 2 ways we have beat M$ at the DRM game, so be happy and let ppl choose what they perfer and stop getting alll defensive about...


so how would someone go about using your instructions, but for WMP11 if they need v11 installed instead of 10? I have the wmp11 installer...do I do all the same stuff, then just use my installer to upgrade to wmp11beta2 after?

::: milOtis

[milOtis]

CADEMIAX,

your fix doesn't work :(.....at least not in Vista Ultimate, i followed your instructions 100% accurately and in order.

you sure you have Ultimate? and final version? if you have one of the online copies, 99% of them are beta versions even though they say FINAL RTM!

look....here are the errors I got when i tried to do that INF thing you talked about (since it expected version 11.x), and NONE of them worked, not just one...and the errors when the install.bat could not overwrite files in use (because they are in use even in safe mode!)...

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5041/untitledmt2.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledmt2.jpg)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8387/untitled2so3.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2so3.jpg)

:: milOtis

[ratmaster9]

I added a trouble shooting section for the Xarus Fair Use Instructions for those who are experiencing the basic issues with getting FairUse4WM working...

Main Page: http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=desc

TroubleShooting: http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=troubleshoot

Just to give everyone a heads up NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, FAIRUSE4WM WILL NOT WORK WITH ZUNE MARKETPLACE. Someone said it works quite a while ago, and later I found after days of trial and error, that even with WMP 9, the IBX Version is 11.0.6000.6324. This is because as soon as the Zune software is loaded, if it doesn't have IBX version 11.0.6000.6324, it will automatically update it.

[CademiaX]

CADEMIAX,

your fix doesn't work :(.....at least not in Vista Ultimate, i followed your instructions 100% accurately and in order.

you sure you have Ultimate? and final version? if you have one of the online copies, 99% of them are beta versions even though they say FINAL RTM!

look....here are the errors I got when i tried to do that INF thing you talked about (since it expected version 11.x), and NONE of them worked, not just one...and the errors when the install.bat could not overwrite files in use (because they are in use even in safe mode!)...

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5041/untitledmt2.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledmt2.jpg)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8387/untitled2so3.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2so3.jpg)

:: milOtis

are you able to delete them manually?

guess I should explain what the batch does, basicly the first part takes control of the files.. then deletes them and replaces them with the wmp10 files..

and did you also change the name in the batch file?

[milOtis]

Yes, I DID change the name in the install.bat file from "Bobby" to my user name, and did Find/Replace All.

I could not delete the files in question though. For exacmple, when i tried to delete the wmp DLL files, in safe mode, it says "You need permission to perform this action" and keeps popping up when I click "Try Again"

I have also tried changing the folder permissions, but it won't let you do that for system folders. Only stuff outside the "Windows" folder can have permissions changed in Vista Ultimate.

::: milOtis

[milOtis]

CademiaX - ok, i got yours working, and if i could use URGE with WMP10 i would be fine, but I need 11...so I have my wmp11beta2 installation folder, and i click on "setup_wm.exe" and I get this error...

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6476/untitledpc8.th.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledpc8.jpg)

it says that 10.x is more recent than 11.x! is there any way I can force an install, or have it not check for the version currently installed? is there a registry key i need to modify?

or, can you make a package for version 11 like you did for version 10? i think your package and permission changing is a good idea, i just it with version 11.0.5703 files instead of 10.0.0.

all the files in my WMP directory are 11.0.5703.x but all the files in the system32 directory in windows are your 10.0.0.x files...that is why it won't let me continue my installation of v11...how can i change the version of those files or at least fool it into thinking they are 11.x files so I can install my wmp11beta2??

::: milOtis

[CademiaX]

CademiaX - ok, i got yours working, and if i could use URGE with WMP10 i would be fine, but I need 11...so I have my wmp11beta2 installation folder, and i click on "setup_wm.exe" and I get this error...

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6476/untitledpc8.th.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledpc8.jpg)

it says that 10.x is more recent than 11.x! is there any way I can force an install, or have it not check for the version currently installed? is there a registry key i need to modify?

or, can you make a package for version 11 like you did for version 10? i think your package and permission changing is a good idea, i just it with version 11.0.5703 files instead of 10.0.0.

all the files in my WMP directory are 11.0.5703.x but all the files in the system32 directory in windows are your 10.0.0.x files...that is why it won't let me continue my installation of v11...how can i change the version of those files or at least fool it into thinking they are 11.x files so I can install my wmp11beta2??

::: milOtis

Im actaully working on this at the moment, wmp11 beta 2 is packaged different then wmp10, and it doesn support 64bit, well the installer doesnt. So its proving to be a little bit more tricky then wmp10..

glad you got that working, what was the problem?


try this, open up the install.bat file and scroll tho the bottom and remove the following lines::

xcopy sys\*.* C:\Windows\System32\
xcopy sys\*.* C:\Windows\SysWOW64\

xcopy prog\*.* "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\"

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe"

Now, it should just delete all the wmp stuff and not copy over anything..

then try to install wmp11 beta 2.. might work

[mlarry01]

Well, I am basically screwed then as I have WMP 11.6 and am really not inclined to attempt multiple gymnastics to get this working.

Thanks to all the nice folks who are trying to have us folk who actually paid for stuff to be able to retain it on disk. it is very appreciated. I will keep checking and hoping for some sort of Vista WMP fix in the near future.

[milOtis]

CademiaX:

I will await your WMP11 package. I appreciate the hard work on it.

::: milOtis

[mysekurity]

NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, FAIRUSE4WM WILL NOT WORK WITH ZUNE MARKETPLACE.

Sorry to tell you, but I've been running ZMP with WMP11 11.0.57 for a while now, and it's worked wonderfully. I also got my Zune shortly after it was released, installing the 1.0 software off the CD (and downloaded .57 shortly after it was released). I don't know why it isn't working for you. Have you tried using beta2?

[trudgy]

xarus worked great for me! thanks alot

[MeteorRain]

excuse me

i've tried that fu4wm package on my WinXP. all the files in program files/windows media player are of 11.0.5721.* and i deleted the drm folder and upgraded on the indivSite.

but the downloaded drm files are of 11.0.6000.* and i've tried for several times.

any idea? thanks.

[Itsdon]

Has anyone gotten Virtual PC 2007 to run under Windows Vista Premium?

[mysekurity]

but the downloaded drm files are of 11.0.6000.*

Did you download the files before or after rolling back? Did you follow the instructions to the word? What download service are you using?

[milOtis]

yes, i had a chance to test vpc2007 personally on vista premium, and it loaded just fine. i set up a windows xp vpc machine in no time. no glitches, no crashes.

::: milOtis

[mysekurity]

Anyone got a copy of FU4WM commander anymore? I reformatted my computer, and left it behind.... anyone?

[AdamI]

sorry guys, its probably been repeated 100 times now.. but i need a link that allows me to d/l fairuse updated version that is compatible with WMV 10 and 11.

i used this one previously http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...29_DRM_FIX.zip from here posted by milOtis.

i had a newer version of windows media player installed, so i deleted it and re installed it with the one given in the link above.

I didnt follow all the steps in the instructions since im already running on windows XP home edition.

I just started following the instructions from step 3

Also wen i go to this link: http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp - to individualise my comp, the upgrade button isn't 'pressable'.

does anyone know where i went wrong?

oh, haha and also... wen i start using the program fairuse4wm and try to recover the keys it says "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet"


:helpful:

[Itsdon]

I've got a strange problem with VPC & FU4WM. I'm currently running Vista and installed VPC 2007 along with a fresh copy of WinXP MCE w/rollup 2. During the install I unchecked the "automatic updates" option and then proceeded to install Yahoo Music Unlimited. I then downloaded and played a song on both Yahoo player and WMP10. Next I tried FU4WM1.3FIX and immediately got the dreaded error message saying keys can't be found. It showed the IBX version as 11.0.6000.6324. How could that have been updated? Perhaps the Yahoo program had something to do with that?

FU4WM also reflected that "DRMCLIEN.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3646. So, I then proceeded to try (in futility) some of the options listed on this forum including individualizing my system, installing WMP11 (beta), yet nothing worked - I think I was messed up from the get-go with IBX 11.0.6 right? Any ideas where I might have gone wrong? I have no problem in redoing the VPC/WinXP install but I'd rather not end up with the same problem.

Oh, I haven't activated the WinXP install yet, that wouldn't make a difference would it?

[ybarra]

I've got a strange problem with VPC & FU4WM. I'm currently running Vista and installed VPC 2007 along with a fresh copy of WinXP MCE w/rollup 2. During the install I unchecked the "automatic updates" option and then proceeded to install Yahoo Music Unlimited. I then downloaded and played a song on both Yahoo player and WMP10. Next I tried FU4WM1.3FIX and immediately got the dreaded error message saying keys can't be found. It showed the IBX version as 11.0.6000.6324. How could that have been updated? Perhaps the Yahoo program had something to do with that?

FU4WM also reflected that "DRMCLIEN.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3646. So, I then proceeded to try (in futility) some of the options listed on this forum including individualizing my system, installing WMP11 (beta), yet nothing worked - I think I was messed up from the get-go with IBX 11.0.6 right? Any ideas where I might have gone wrong? I have no problem in redoing the VPC/WinXP install but I'd rather not end up with the same problem.

Oh, I haven't activated the WinXP install yet, that wouldn't make a difference would it?


The problem is most likely your Windows Media distributible. It is seperate from the Windows Media player. When I used my current music service, it gave me an error saying that I needed to update my Windows Media distributible to play the file and proceeded to update me to IBX 11.0.6 while leaving my Windows Media Player as Beta 2. I had to uninstall the distributible and then extracted the distributible that came with WMP beta 2 and installed only the distributible again, delete and recreate my keys, and I was back in business.

I haven't tried it yet, but I think it's theoretically possible to run the latest WMP but back out the distributible and install the beta 2 version of the distributible (i.e. extract the WMP executible and just replace the distributible .exe with an older one and install the latest WMP). As mentioned a few posts back, I also think it's possible to do the same for Vista by overwriting the newer distributible files w/ the older ones and deleting your key files and recreating them. Maybe once the Vista patch is finished, we can create an XP patch that will basically do the same w/o the hassle of the uninstall/installs. We should only be dealing w/ a handful of .dll's that handle the IBX functions.

[Itsdon]

I had to uninstall the distributible and then extracted the distributible that came with WMP beta 2 and installed only the distributible again, delete and recreate my keys, and I was back in business.

Thanks for the information - hopefully it's as simple as you make it sound. Any chance you could walk me through the procedure you described above? I expect there are a few folks here as well as myself who would appreciate a "spoon fed" How-To. :thanks:

[mysekurity]

Itsdon: check out Xarus' easy-to-read help instructions. It's a little out-of-date, and you'll probably have better luck installing 11.0.5.7 from MilOtis' recent package as opposed to WMP11 Beta 2 as recommended by Xarus, but other than that, the instructions should be the same.

I'm not sure about Y! Unlimited, but it shouldn't require you to update or anything like that....



[edit: Xarus, not Xarius.]

[mysekurity]

I didnt follow all the steps in the instructions since im already running on windows XP home edition.

Try Xarus' instructions. They're simple and easy to follow.

Also wen i go to this link: http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp - to individualise my comp, the upgrade button isn't 'pressable'.

You have to be using Internet Explorer or else it will be greyed-out.

oh, haha and also... wen i start using the program fairuse4wm and try to recover the keys it says "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet"
:search: You have to rollback your player, using the files from MilOtis' package. Check the instructions on Xarus.

[Itsdon]

Itsdon: check out Xarus' easy-to-read help instructions. It's a little out-of-date, and you'll probably have better luck installing 11.0.5.7 from MilOtis' recent package as opposed to WMP11 Beta 2 as recommended by Xarus, but other than that, the instructions should be the same.

I'm not sure about Y! Unlimited, but it shouldn't require you to update or anything like that....

Thanks. When I installed a fresh copy of WinXP and Yahoo Music Unlimited (and nothing else - no updates etc.) I immediately had IBX Version 11.0.6.6324, any idea how that may have occurred?

Does WinXP need to be activated right away? (This is a Vista Machine running VPC2007 & XP-MCE)

I initially ran WMP10 (installed from XP) and then installed WMP11 Beta (which I currently have) yet the IBX is 11.0.6. Do I still need to "roll back" the player? If so, to what?

I read above about replacing the "distributible" perhaps that's all I need to do - any idea how?

[mostyle]

[QUOTE=CademiaX;996665]Install Windows Media Player 10 on Vista 32/64-bit!

Has then been successful with WMP 11b2?

Also.. Given the availability of VLite and its ability to customize vista installs might there be a way to create a custom Vista DVD without wmp integrated and get a prior version to install? I tried setting up Vista in a vm box and tested the rollback techniques described here with no avail and was curious..

:thanks:

[AdamI]

Try Xarus' instructions. They're simple and easy to follow.

Where do i get the instructions from?

btw, your right about the internet explorer :) :thanks:

[ybarra]

Thanks. When I installed a fresh copy of WinXP and Yahoo Music Unlimited (and nothing else - no updates etc.) I immediately had IBX Version 11.0.6.6324, any idea how that may have occurred?

Does WinXP need to be activated right away? (This is a Vista Machine running VPC2007 & XP-MCE)

I initially ran WMP10 (installed from XP) and then installed WMP11 Beta (which I currently have) yet the IBX is 11.0.6. Do I still need to "roll back" the player? If so, to what?

I read above about replacing the "distributible" perhaps that's all I need to do - any idea how?

This is pretty simple if you think through it as well as try reading the step-by-step instructions that have been posted previously.

1) Uninstall WM Distributible. The uninstaller is USUALLY stored here: C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe.

2) Use something like 7-Zip or WinRAR to extract the contents of the WMP Beta 2 executible to a directory.

3) Run wmfdis11.exe (from the Beta 2 directory you just extracted).

4) Delete all of the files in your DRM directory (usually C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM). Make sure you don't delete the directory...just the files in them. Also remember this will invalidate any music you have already purchased that is still DRM'd.

5) Run your usual music service and purchase and play a DRM'd file. This will recreate new IBX keys based on the Beta 2 wmfdis11.exe you just installed.

6) Run fairuse4wm and extract keys and remove DRM from music you purchased.

Obviously it would be smart to do the unDRM on some test files first from one of the DRM test sites just in case something goes wrong before you start purchasing new music.

[outsiders71]

Why go through all this trouble when you can make a Windows XP live CD, using BartPE?

[CademiaX]

So after messing with this ALOT, I have come to the conclusion that wmp11b2 will NOT work on vista 64-bit

I will how ever be testing on the 32-bit edition soon, so stay tuned!

[Jeff D]

Anyone have a link to the file renamer I thought was in this thread? Someone was asking about removing the [NO-DRM] and someone responded with a pretty cool one with selectable items for changing case, removing part/all of a string etc. I can't find it now, but I know I've downloaded it before and I loved it. And it's not oscar's

[SalSimp]

Anyone have a link to the file renamer I thought was in this thread? Someone was asking about removing the [NO-DRM] and someone responded with a pretty cool one with selectable items for changing case, removing part/all of a string etc. I can't find it now, but I know I've downloaded it before and I loved it. And it's not oscar's

This is OT, so I hope the mods don't get angry. I have been using Lupas rename for a couple years. It is freeware. Try their website at hxxp://rename.lupasfreeware.org/

It is extremely flexible, recommended.

[jakeyf]

CademiaX: I followed your instructions as best i can (i had a lot of administrator issues), but i managed to get everything to work up until i try to run wmplayer, when it says wmploc.dll is version 10.0.0.3802 and it expected 11.0.6000.6324.... any advice on what i did wrong? Is there any file i can manually replace to fix this? thanks

[di3111]

Hello CademiaX,

I've the same problem as jakeyf.
I have a german vista. I don't know if the problem depends on this. I've have done this

D. Follow the WMP10 installer instructions. (If it says wmp10 is already installed,
browse to \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\ and run wmplayer.exe, and if
that tells you file xxxx is version 10.xx, expecting version 11.xx, arrange icons by name,
select all the .inf files, right click > install, one wont work, it will tell you and the
rest will continue, after that run \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe)

several times but without result

could you help please

[Blind Melon]

Does the Fairuse program work for Napster protected files yet?

[mysekurity]

Blind Melon:
It's not the service that prevents FU from working. As long as the files you need to decode use PlaysForSure (Windows) DRM, and your ibx version (see other posts) is 11.0.5.xx or before, it should work. But please keep in mind this program is intended for the fair use of purchased music only (subscription content doesn't fall under this category).

[Blind Melon]

How do I find out if the files I have use PlaysForSure? Do I just try FU with it? Also, do the Napster files normally work with FU?

[mysekurity]

Sorry, yes. Napster, Urge, BuyMusic, and most other subscription/download services on the internet (save for iTunes, Zune, and unprotected sites such as eMusic) use PlaysForSure DRM. Since you use Napster, the files you have downloaded are protected via PlaysForSure, and should be decryptable using FU4WM.

Open FairUse4WM, click "extract keys", then click "next" when that has completed. Drag your file into the window and click next, and everything should work. If you receive an error message, search within this thread, as someone else has most likely already gotten it as well. (e.g. if you get "11.0.6 isn't supported yet", follow the instructions to "roll back" your Windows Media Player). Good luck.

[Blind Melon]

Alright, the weird thing is... I don't have a DRM folder in AllUsers... I did show hidden files and nothing. In the long run, I cannot hit the Upgrade button on the website... so yeah. Ionno.

[mysekurity]

You have to enable "show system files" too. And the Upgrade button only works in Internet Explorer. So if you're using Firefox or some other browser, you're SOL.

See http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=instructions&ver=2 for instructions on how to rollback. Use WMP 11.0.57 from MilOtis May fix instead of Beta 2. If you need further help, PM me.

[CZroe]

The Xarus instructions say that Yahoo! Music does not work with FairUse4WM, but reading the last couple pages seems to indicate that it does. Unless Yahoo! Music Unlimited is different from Yahoo! Music? I thought we weren't supporting people who are using this for subscription music, so if only Yahoo! Unlimited works, then we should provide no support for it.

These are the ones the Xarus guide says do not work:
1. Vongo
2. Yahoo! Music
3. Zune Marketplace

Knowing this, which service should I commit to with the intention of using FairUse4WM? I intend to make full use of subscription music as intended, but I will also be making frequent use of the "purchase" check-box for music I like, so FairUse4WM compatability is important to me. How do the services differ here? Does one have higher-quality music? Do any sell protected lossless WMA music or at least allow me to buy a very-high bitrate version? I intend to strip any music purchased of DRM and archive it on DVD while keeping appropriate files on my PCs. One PC will sync to my MP3-format-only player while another will have only WMAs in its library (Media Center PC so that it will not sync MP3 duplicates to a compatible player) and another will have the high-quality/lossless files (my home fileserver).

I've always leaned heavily toward Napster because they were the risk-takers when it came to first supporting subscription music and it seems like they are suffering for being so progressive... as if they lost a lot of money in the initial "push" before there were many compatible players. Also, call me an idealist, but I want to prove that the name means something by lending my support (even if it has nothing to do with the original Napster)! Of course, if any other service has a significant advantage, like a significantly larger library or lossless files, I'll support competition instead by selecting them.

[mysekurity]

Xarius isn't right in a few things. I run Zune marketplace fine with Windows Media Player 11.0.57. I don't use Y!U, so I don't know if it works or not, but for me, Urge has been excellent. Its Auto-Mix feature is very cool, even if the recommendations aren't exactly suited for me (but the Mood and Style drag-and-drop option works quite well). If you like Napster, I'd say go for it. I think it's really just a matter of preference, but most of the mainstream stores encode to 192 kbps throughout the catalog, so you're not going to get much variation.

What I have heard about Yahoo! Unlimited is that it might force you to update, which is a bit of an issue. Urge doesn't force updates on you, which is, as you might imagine, a major selling point for me.

[CZroe]

Xarius isn't right in a few things. I run Zune marketplace fine with Windows Media Player 11.0.57. I don't use Y!U, so I don't know if it works or not, but for me, Urge has been excellent. Its Auto-Mix feature is very cool, even if the recommendations aren't exactly suited for me (but the Mood and Style drag-and-drop option works quite well). If you like Napster, I'd say go for it. I think it's really just a matter of preference, but most of the mainstream stores encode to 192 kbps throughout the catalog, so you're not going to get much variation.

What I have heard about Yahoo! Unlimited is that it might force you to update, which is a bit of an issue. Urge doesn't force updates on you, which is, as you might imagine, a major selling point for me.

Does the Zune Marketplace work for non-Zune users? AFAIK, it's just "URGE" for the rest of us.

[mysekurity]

Content purchased from the Zune Marketplace will play on PlaysForSure devices (and in Windows Media Player), but not the other way around. Also, due to some sort of ID tag trick (not exactly sure....), the DRM on the Zune cannot be decoded using FU4WM, despite the DRM being basically P4S (Zune is v 9.1 to P4S's 9). So yes, URGE, Y!U, Napster, Rhapsody, et al is probably your best bet for music purchasing service that you can get rid of DRM from. Or, you can go the fully legal and preferred, yet woefully underappreciated route and use non DRM'd tracks to begin with, in eMusic and others.

Just my $.02

[rblimas]

has any one found out a way to get fairuse4wm to work?

Thanks:thumbsup:

[Itsdon]

has any one found out a way to get fairuse4wm to work?

Thanks:thumbsup:

Nope. No one. :stupid:

[vsaltv]

I found the fix in windows XP where rolling back your media player doesn't roll back your IBX version correctly. It all has to do with the C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$ folder. If this folder does not contain an actual backup of an older version of the distributable, you can roll back until blue in the face but you won't get anywhere, because windows does not have the older files to roll back to, so you keep looping to the unsupported IBX. I have a zip of the C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$ folder (around 4mb). If this is something you're interested in, PM me, unzip it to your own C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$ folder, THEN rollback, and relax and enjoy the anti-DRM ride in XP :)

[connormill]

Hi
i have uploaded fairuse4wm v1.3 to 3 Mirrors
all files checked for viruses and direct .exe's
1:FairUse4WM.exe (http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/29049_vi21f/FairUse4WM.exe) (recomended!)
2:http://www.box.net/shared/ac286lzgji or
3:http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/170986/FairUse4WM-exe.htm

hope you like them!

[mysekurity]

vsaltv: Interesting point. You think it's possible to trick the uninstaller into rolling back to an earlier ibx? It should be fairly easy to edit the spuninst.ini file to use a different ibx (or change the ibx itself), or do you think it hash checks? If not, then this should make the rollback process that much more painless for new users.

One thing though: I thought different ibx components don't work across computers. If you're able to send this and have it work on another computer, let me know. You could package just the required files, along with a much less complicated rollback procedure than the one we have now.

[vsaltv]

mysekurity: It does work across different installations of XP. I got the folder from another copy of windows myself. It's not as easy to just edit .ini files, it needs basically every file related to the media player or runtime that you are attempting to roll back to. The zip I created allows you to completely and correctly roll both the media player and the distributable all the way back to WMP9.

[mysekurity]

mysekurity: It does work across different installations of XP. I got the folder from another copy of windows myself. It's not as easy to just edit .ini files, it needs basically every file related to the media player or runtime that you are attempting to roll back to.

But what if you're running WMP 11.0.6 and want to roll back to 11.0.57? Is there a way to put the 11.0.57 files in the folder so that it will rollback to that? How exactly does the IBX tie into the rollback process. IIRC, rolling back from 11.0.6 to WMP10 still kept the 11.0.6 IBX.


(and yes, I know it isn't as easy as editing the INI, I was saying that we could trick it into reverting to the older IBX that was placed in the folder...or no... I'll do some more looking into it).

[lilhobo]

can u play these DRM file in wmp 10???

i can play smaller version from site in the IE browser and i backup the license but it wont play the file i downloaded

[mysekurity]

lilhobo: What is the error message you get? Sometimes it will just grant you a license to stream (not download), and that could be the problem.

[cdeviney]

I just let Yahoo Music Unlimited upgrade my version from 2.0.2.042 to 2.1.0.174 and now I have 11.0.6000.6324 and can't unDRM my files.

Did a system restore and that didn't help.

So...WARNING...don't upgrade your working version of Yahoo Music Unlimited upgrade!!!

[hicux]

Don't upgrade anything please or u will be in trouble!

[WalterK]

OR simply stop supporting drm crippled music.
FairUse Did its job if you were tricked into these services/online stores.
Then there was a way to get your music drm free.
But by now you should know better even with the lawsuit dropped it looks like the creator won't be coming back anytime soon and as the digital music stores/services and microsoft continue to update their software FairUse will become more and more outdated when dealing with the updates.

[mysekurity]

cdeviney (and hicux): If you look at the other posts in the forum (look back a few pages), you will see that it /is/ possible to revert to FU4WM-friendly components, but simply using system restore or the built-in tools Microsoft gives you will not work (obviously).

You should still be able to use the newer version of Yahoo! Unlimited, as the rollback won't touch those components, however. If not, just be glad it lasted for as long as it did.

[Blind Melon]

When I get this error "wma requires a different private key."... doesn't that mean I have to "recover keys" by hitting back, then hitting the "recover keys" button? However, when I do this, it doesn't work...

[mysekurity]

Blind Melon: What is the error message?

One thing you can try: play the file in WMP, and while it's playing, try to decrypt. That usually works for me.

[mysekurity]

WalterK: The ultimate goal, of course, is to get rid of the DRM completely, from end-to-end, but for now, the only way to get most mainstream music online is through a DRM-enabled store. I agree that non-DRM'd content should be purchased whenever available. It seems that Viodentia will not be coming back, (or Monkeyboy, for that matter...no one ever remembers him...), but until then, we can all gather round in a circle and sing Kumbaya.

[Blind Melon]

The error message is in the quotes... it says about the private keys... I did try playing it in WMP and then decrypting, but that didn't work..

[anahita]

When doing a properties on music in urge it says they are 129kbps so that's where I got my info. I was inside windows vista RC1 and using media player. i installed the urge thing just to see it. did not sign up. doing properties on music it says 129kbps. if when downloaded they are better then 128k that's cool then.

[mysekurity]

Blind Melon: Did you try decrypting it _while_ it was playing? What error does it give you when you try to recover keys again?

[mysekurity]

Anahita: When you download music from URGE, the tracks are encoded at 192 kbps WMA (protected). See earlier in the thread for how to decrypt on Vista.

[Blind Melon]

Blind Melon: Did you try decrypting it _while_ it was playing? What error does it give you when you try to recover keys again?


"Extraction in progress on "Indiv03.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,1 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys."

[mysekurity]

Your "ibx" is too new to work with FairUse4WM. Please look a couple pages back to figure out what to do, or PM me, and I'll walk you through it.

[Blind Melon]

Sent ya a message.

[CZroe]

Question: I want to do all of my FU4WM stuff on a Virtual Machine so that I don't have to worry about messing with my Windows Media Player files (it also allows easy backup of your entire subscription account/fles/keys, etc for multiple PCs). I'd like the VM drive image to be as small as possible, so I have a question:
Is FU4WM Windows XP-only? Can I install WMP10 beta on Windows 2000 or something with a smaller footprint and still use FU4WM?

[mysekurity]

I think it's interesting how much credit people give Viodentia. Not that he isn't the man for creating this, but he even says in his first post that FU4WM is just a GUI for DrmDbg. Sure the updates to the program foiled Microsoft's patches, but it's really the codebase from DrmDbg that made it all possible. Monkeyboy is responsible for the latest fix, enabling us to use 11.0.57 and before.

I wonder what "lark" is up to these days


P.S. I'm curious as to why the files in my %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\DRM folder are version 11.0.6 when my ibx is 11.0.57. What's the disconnect here?

[WalterK]

CZroe it might work in windows 2000 but i am not sure.
It was listed as being Xp only.

Secondly you can install a small version of XP on a virtual machine say an image about 350mb or less.
How?
Simply use nlite (google search) and have your original windows installation CD, you can then pick and choose what will be taken from the orginal cd and windows updates to be put on the image.
After creating simply mount the image with daemon tools or burn to a cd and install on your virtual machine.

Note Nlite does not work with Win9X.

[Blind Melon]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet, but after I installed Zune, my undrm'ing process wouldn't work (and this was caused because of Zune)... so I just uninstalled Zune, uninstalled WMP and everything else, then reinstalled WMP, no Zune this time, and it works... only thing is, I'd love to have Zune accessible so I can play music from my HDD on my X360... but if I have to use my iPod... that really doesn't bother me, just was wondering if there's a way around this.

[mysekurity]

Blind Melon: Many people have had problems with Zune and FU, but I am not one of them. Just so you know, Zune is basically WMP11 with a few tweaks. You can use the 360's streaming option from within WMP11.

[schil]

I was using FairUse to remove DRM from many albums in my library when it stopped working after I updated my system. Now I would like to determine which files in my library are still protected with DRM. Does anyone know how to search for WMA files that are still under DRM?

[mysekurity]

schil: WMP can tell you which files are still protected. Go to the songs menu item in your library and enter "Protected:yes" (minus the quotes) in the search box. This will list all of your protected files.

Another way is to use FairUseCommander, a program that works with FairUse4WM to batch convert protected tracks. If the checkbox is selected, it will find for you and que up your protected files to be converted. It's quite handy.

If you want to know how to revert your system to be able to unDRM again (it's really simple), or just want a copy of FairUseCommander, drop me a private message.

[Ren]

Hi all, I got a little lost in such long thread. But if I got it right, I can't unDRM wmv file, which requires for playing KB891122 installed, am I right?

[di3111]

I`ve tried to install Wmp10 on a german Vista 32Bit with the instructions of CademiaX. Now WMP 10 runs on my vista (Ultimate). The problem with the error message #File wmploc.dll is version 10.xxx and not 11.xxx, which was expected....# disappeared after i double-clicked on unregmp2.exe under the Programme/Windows Media Player folder.
Now Wmp runs fine.
The problem now is, that i can`t do the upgrade on the windows media individualisation site . The Upgrade Button
is greyed out. So I can't play files with licenses.
Has anyone installed WMP10 on Vista successful.
Please Help

[JackAren]

Hi
i have uploaded fairuse4wm v1.3 to 3 Mirrors
all files checked for viruses and direct .exe's
1:FairUse4WM.exe (http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/29049_vi21f/FairUse4WM.exe) (recomended!)
2:http://www.box.net/shared/ac286lzgji or
3:http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/170986/FairUse4WM-exe.htm

hope you like them!
I'ownloded that file, then trying to run it, it says: "not a valid Windows executable"!

[froggger]

di3111, you need to use internet explorer.

[di3111]

But I use the IE

[froggger]

oh, i dunno then. i haven't used vista.
are there any online subscription stores that are totally online, you don't have to install anything and have a free trial where you don't have to enter credit card info??
i looked at napster, but you need to enter credit card info.
i also checked out urge, but it makes you update wmp.

[Blind Melon]

Try going back through and deleting your DRM files in the DRM folder... I had to do that sometimes to get the Upgrade button to work.

[abudara]

drmdbg 2007/06/04 00:15 for "IndivBox.key v11.0.6000.6324"
by taku & inoyan
http://panda.orz.hm/uploader/5/src/up48.zip

[milOtis]

Does the Fairuse program work for Napster protected files yet?

FairUse4WM works for any WMA file as long as your IBX/Windows Media player version is old enough...doesn't matter what service you use as long as it doen't make you update.

and Cademix - YES...I have spent countless hours trying to do wmp11b2 on vista...no dice, so wanted you to know I worked on it hard also, and came up with nothing. I finally actually got it instgalled, but right when I opened it, it would crash, so technically it was on there, but I was never able to keep it running more than 10 seconds.

::: milOtis

[milOtis]

oh, i dunno then. i haven't used vista.
are there any online subscription stores that are totally online, you don't have to install anything and have a free trial where you don't have to enter credit card info??
i looked at napster, but you need to enter credit card info.
i also checked out urge, but it makes you update wmp.


not true. if you have windows XP you can use windows media player 11beta2 with URGE all you want without updating. I have three PCs right now with that setup. Everytime I open windows media player it says "do you want to update" i just hit no, and I'm still downloading DRM music from urge to this day.

also, i have windows vista instlaled with virtualpc, and have windows xp running in that, and urge is using 11.0.5703.x version of media player also. (beta 2)

It doesn't force you to update, it just asks all the time, you can just click 'no'.

::: milOtis

[Ren]

FairUse4WM works for any WMA file as long as your IBX/Windows Media player version is old enough...doesn't matter what service you use as long as it doen't make you update.

Hi milOtis. Update You're talking about is KB891122 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891122)? I have some WM files and when I'll try to play them in WMP10 I got message box "You need security upgrade for playing this file..." or similar message and the link leads to KB891122. So there's no chance to use FairUse4WM for these files? Thanks.

[mysekurity]

Ren: I use URGE, and the security update it prompts you for doesn't upgrade your ibx. I'm not sure what service you use, but if it's not allowing you to play protected files, the worst you can do is try (remember to restart afterwards, though!). If it doesn't work, you can always use the rollback procedure gone over many times before (I just did it last night with 11.0.57, so I know it still works)

[froggger]

well the package i use to install updated my wmp without asking me...
is there a package that is only urge, not an updated wmp with it??
i am using wmp11 beta2

[mysekurity]

froggger: pm me your e-mail address. I can send you the 11.0.57 install, instructions, and etc.

[milOtis]

anyone having trouble should read the second answer!
well the package i use to install updated my wmp without asking me...
is there a package that is only urge, not an updated wmp with it??
i am using wmp11 beta2

that means you have wmp10 on there before, so it upgraded it to the most current version of 11. if you have ANY version of 11 install, you can just go to urge.com and download urge, it will see you have version 11.x and not update it...it just need to be 11 for urge to install, so 11beta2 qualifies, you just have to have it installed prior to installing urge. if the urge installer sees version 10 it will update it to the most current version of wmp on the MS servers at the time of install (if it sees 11.x, it skips the upgrade).

Hi milOtis. Update You're talking about is KB891122 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891122)? I have some WM files and when I'll try to play them in WMP10 I got message box "You need security upgrade for playing this file..." or similar message and the link leads to KB891122. So there's no chance to use FairUse4WM for these files? Thanks.

i am talking about when you open windows media player, and it pops up after 10 or 20 seconds, in a dialog box that says "A Windows Media Player update is available. Do you want to update now? YES NO" then you must always click NO so WMP will never update (thus your IBX will never update) - keep in mind it is a domino effect...you cannot upgrade you WMP without updating your IBX...don't do it!! Using FairUse4WM only works with WMP11beta2, and prior and ONLY on XP...you cannot install anything lower than WMP11Final on Vista, don't even try. CademiaX and I have spent days and days trying to get that working for you guys, and it's not just one problem....MANY issues come up like conflicting DLL versions, bluescreens, WMP totally crashing after 5 seconds, etc...so you are out of luck with Vista unless you run VirtualPC or have a service that lets you get away with WMP10 and doesn't require 11 (but most require version11 now).

Remember the motto: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and if you have a working FairUse4WM and music service that doesn't require you to upgrade, then keep it taht way! If you are on windows xp, my "12-27 fix" will work just fine for you on rolling back to wmp11beta2... (used it on my friend's computer last week that was 100% updated to the latest wmp11) This has been tested on xp home, professional, 64bit, and on dells, gateways, acers, shuttles, even intel imacs, and it works on all of them...the people who are having trouble with my FairUse4WM fix is anyone on vista, or who use more than one WMA-file music service, like Urge and Napster to download songs, or Yahoo and Rhapsody and something else...due to conflicting DRM data, the rollback does not work for those people, and their upgrade button is grayed out on the individualization site. So pick a service you like and only use just that ONE.

::: milOtis

[froggger]

oh sorry, i must have been on wmp10 last time i tried that.
everything works fine now.
thanks!

[Ren]

milOtis,mysekurity> Thanks for hints, just installing XP to VPC. I tried it on W2003R2, I guess it was the problem. I'll report results ASAP.

[mysekurity]

I just rolled back my install last night. I use Zune, so I had to get rid of that as well, but I know the rollback still works. (if possible, don't use Beta 2, it's much slower than the final version, and there's really no need). If you can't find WMP 11.0.57, pm me.


MilOtis: do you know how to disable the "upgrade now" dialog? I've tried setting wmp to never check for updates, but that doesn't work. I've also tried hacking with the dlls, but nothing really came of that. Do you have any ideas? Or is it just a minor annoyance that I'll have to put up with every now and then?

[di3111]

Has someone noticed the drmdbg update above for IBX
v11.0.6000.6324. Someone tried it?

[pcdthebum]

Has someone noticed the drmdbg update above for IBX
v11.0.6000.6324. Someone tried it?

Yea, i noticed that, I was wondering if this means we will be seeing an update for fairuse :) that would be awesome

[petrus2]

MilOtis: do you know how to disable the "upgrade now" dialog? I've tried setting wmp to never check for updates, but that doesn't work. I've also tried hacking with the dlls, but nothing really came of that. Do you have any ideas? Or is it just a minor annoyance that I'll have to put up with every now and then?

Have you tried the solution contained in the following post?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=979744&highlight=DisableWMPAutoUpdate.reg#post979744

Regards

[pcdthebum]

does anyone know how to update the program so that we can incorporate the new drmdbg? or is it just a waiting game?

[SalSimp]

MilOtis: do you know how to disable the "upgrade now" dialog? I've tried setting wmp to never check for updates, but that doesn't work. I've also tried hacking with the dlls, but nothing really came of that. Do you have any ideas? Or is it just a minor annoyance that I'll have to put up with every now and then?

Look at the quote below from my prior post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneill5491
I don't know if there was a post about this earlier, but is there a way to stop WMP from asking you if you would like to install the available update (from beta 2 to final)?

Yes there is. . . .

1. Reboot Windows in SAFE Mode
2. Go to Program Files>Windows Media Player
3. Find setup_wm.exe
4. Rename it to anything else (e.g. setup_wm0.exe)
5. Reboot Windows

Works also by deleting setup_wm.exe, but renaming is better just in case you want o put it back. There may be other ways of avoiding the nag, but this one works for me.

Note: You have to be in SAFE Mode or else the Windows File Protection feature will put a new setup_wm.exe in the directory.



:):eek::devil:

[mysekurity]

Petrus2: thanks!

And di3111: I downloaded it, but it didn't seem to do much. I'm running 11.0.57, but I'll try it on a machine with 11.0.6 to see if that might be the issue. Before fairuse came out, I used drmdbg with mixed results. Hopefully someone can port it into fairuse, but I won't hold my breath.

[hicux]

hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me in some codes. See u soon!

[hicux]

:script:hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me with some codes. See u soon!

[CER22]

:script:hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me with some codes. See u soon!

Awesome! Thanks!

[froggger]

sounds great!!
does anybody still have a copy of fairuse4wm commander??
i can't find a link anywhere!

[mysekurity]

froggger: I do. Check your pm box.

[Ren]

milOtis,mysekurity> Thanks for hints, just installing XP to VPC. I tried it on W2003R2, I guess it was the problem. I'll report results ASAP.

WinXPSP2 + WMP 11.0.5721.5145 It don't ask for KB891122 anymore but when I'll individualize from link in this topic, components gets upgraded to 6000=unsupported. But it shouldn't be problem if I don't do individualization, right?

[Episodio1]

Is this topic only about drm in audio files?? All that I read is that you still need a valid license to decrypt the video file.

Thanks.

[mysekurity]

Episodio1 (and I assume Ren as well): Earlier in the thread, there was talk of DRM removal in WMV files, but I haven't tested it myself. You should just need a valid (playable) license to unDRM it. Either that, or you can use the tools FU4WM is based on (like drmdbg, drm2wmv, etc.), which I know were designed to remove WMV DRM.

[mackie]

Where can I get a version of WMP 10.0? I have 9 installed, but would rather have 10. Or the beta of 11.

Thanks.

Nevermind, I found it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx

[mackie]

I have another question.

On another computer, I am able to right-click on a song and select convert. Then a Microsoft program would open, and I would be able to convert the wma file to an mp3.

I can't do it on a different computer. Why?

What do I need to do this?

[mysekurity]

Mackie (in response to your second post): Your first computer most likely had software that your second computer did not. You say it was a Microsoft program, and without further clarification, I'm going to assume you are talking about either Plus! Audio Converter, which came with the Plus! Digital Media pack for Windows XP or Windows Media Encoder.

To replicate this functionality on other computers, you can install either of the aforementioned Microsoft products (which I wouldn't recommend, having used both for audio conversion), or a number of inexpensive and/or free alternatives available (installing a LAME plugin to dbPowerAMP, for example). Basically what allows you to right-click a file and select it to convert is the result of allowing a process to add itself to the "shell", the user interface between you and the operating system. Any conversion software should have an option to allow itself to be added to the shell, and if not, there are several registry tweaks to facilitate this.

Please let me know if any of this was confusing or if you have any further questions.

[mackie]

Mackie (in response to your second post): Your first computer most likely had software that your second computer did not. You say it was a Microsoft program, and without further clarification, I'm going to assume you are talking about either Plus! Audio Converter, which came with the Plus! Digital Media pack for Windows XP or Windows Media Encoder.

To replicate this functionality on other computers, you can install either of the aforementioned Microsoft products (which I wouldn't recommend, having used both for audio conversion), or a number of inexpensive and/or free alternatives available (installing a LAME plugin to dbPowerAMP, for example). Basically what allows you to right-click a file and select it to convert is the result of allowing a process to add itself to the "shell", the user interface between you and the operating system. Any conversion software should have an option to allow itself to be added to the shell, and if not, there are several registry tweaks to facilitate this.

Please let me know if any of this was confusing or if you have any further questions.

Not confusing at all.

I forgot my original computer had the Media Center version of XP. I have other converters, it was just more convenient to highlight all my songs then right-click and select convert audio format.

Thanks anyway for your reply.

[pcdthebum]

Cant wait for the update :)

yes i edited what i said because it needed to be changed :P

[mysekurity]

As far as I'm concerned, hicux can take as long as he needs to make sure it works properly. I'd rather have a well-tested release that works on Vista (one of the only reasons I have for not updating yet) than one that doesn't work at all.

Though I do have a few feature requests:
1) Scrubbing of the unique content identifier. I don't like the thought of being tracked by my software.
2) Implementing FairUse Commander right into the shell (making it even easier to use than before)
3) Removal of Zune DRM (not likely, but just thought I'd throw it in)

...
4) An explanation of what they did to break the tool. I read over the way WMA DRM works, and I'd like to contribute to the project, but I'm wondering what exactly happened to make it stop working...

EDIT: Thanks for reconsidering :)

[KenD00]

@pcdthebum: If you think its so easy, no one stops you from doing it by yourself

:rolleyes:

[SalSimp]

Though I do have a few feature requests:
...
...
...

Of most concern should be number one on the wish list. A lot of users may not be aware of the 'unseen' information that is in the WMA tag. This information even transfers to ID3 tags with most converters and is not evident (seen by programs like Tag&Rename, dBPoweramp, MP3Tag, etc). It will track you as the downloader. All you can do now is strip the tag completely and recreate it with clean information.

So, if you have been sharing. . . .

[Danj]

1) Scrubbing of the unique content identifier. I don't like the thought of being tracked by my software.

This should not be a part of FairUse4WM itself, since it would firmly place it in the position of being a tool of piracy, instead of the legal grey area it currently inhabits. If information is needed to be stripped out of converted files it should be done by a third party tool, so that no blame attaches to FU4WM.

[SalSimp]

This should not be a part of FairUse4WM itself, since it would firmly place it in the position of being a tool of piracy, instead of the legal grey area it currently inhabits. . .

Agreed! I just wanted to give those mis-using FairUse4WM, either on 'rented' or purchased tracks (by sharing them), fair warning.

I bet more than a few are right now saying "holy sh!$".

[mysekurity]

Danj: Perhaps you are right. I don't want to draw any more heat to FU4WM than it has already earned. I wouldn't share the files in the first place (and it's easy enough to do it manually or with a tagging tool), but I just really don't like the idea of a unique content tag.

Am I to assume you're against my 3rd request as well?

[sonicbox]

Off topic, but what "unique content tag" are you talking about? SubscriptionContentID?

I almost hate to correct it (because it seems most everyone here is using this to violate subscription agreements - ARGH)... but I can guarantee you that isn't a numeric used to track an individual buyer. Sorry, paranoid copyright violators... go be paranoid about something else.

[derfnoslen]

Hey, I have a Zune, and use zune marketplace, which updates my IBX, but it's the only way to put songs on the zune. So is there a way to do a virtual machine and set that up with zune and use my main machine to run wmp 11 beta2 with fairuse? I don't have an xp disk, just the setup cd's that came with my computer, I'm on XP home. What program would I use, I tried the VM player that so miltois suggested, but I may be downloaded the wrong version because it asks for Vista. Any suggestions. I've been reading this thread since it was on page 28, but I can't figure this out

[mysekurity]

derfnoslen: I have a Zune too. I run WMP 11 and FairUse just fine.

AFAIK, Zune doesn't itself update the IBX (it hasn't on any of the machines on which I've installed WMP first, and then Zune), but it does rely on the WMP Runtime, upon which both Zune and WMP are based.

What you can do is follow the rollback instructions (look earlier in the thread or pm me for a condensed version) and you should be fine. As I type this, I'm running both WMP and Zune, simultaneously downloading, unDRM'ing, and syncing to my baby, all on XP home. If you need help, just let me know, or if you're interested in pursuing the VM method, it should work for you (if not, there are plenty of alternatives available).


P.S. Sonicbox: Yes, I think that's what I'm talking about. I'm doing my best to stay true to the spirit (if not the word) of my agreement, and have and will purchase tracks to keep this wonderful service running. I have not passed around my unDRM'd music, I'm just concerned about the ramifications of someone else taking my music (http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=493).

[derfnoslen]

[QUOTE=mysekurity;1013517]derfnoslen: I have a Zune too. I run WMP 11 and FairUse just fine.

AFAIK, Zune doesn't itself update the IBX (it hasn't on any of the machines on which I've installed WMP first, and then Zune), but it does rely on the WMP Runtime, upon which both Zune and WMP are based.

What you can do is follow the rollback instructions (look earlier in the thread or pm me for a condensed version) and you should be fine. As I type this, I'm running both WMP and Zune, simultaneously downloading, unDRM'ing, and syncing to my baby, all on XP home. If you need help, just let me know, or if you're interested in pursuing the VM method, it should work for you (if not, there are plenty of alternatives available).[QUOTE=mysekurity;1013517]


Ok, I'm going through the rollback instructions, at what point do I install the Zune software, before I put back on WMP or after. I'm not sure what happened then because I installed Zune and now I can't unDRM anything, do you unDRM using files downloaded from WMP or Zune software? I'm using the instructions from Xarus's site. I'm not sure where I should install the Zune software, thanks for the help!

Edit: It looks like I can unDRM using WMP Urge put not Zune Marketplace, is that normal, I like Urge better anyway just wondering?

[milOtis]

:script:hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me with some codes. See u soon!

u serious, there's a version 1.4 for 11.0.6x.x IBX?

[mysekurity]

Derfnolsen: After you have installed WMP and confirmed that your unDRMing works, that's when it's safe to install Zune. I use URGE with great enthusiasm (I like it better than marketplace as well), but FU4WM can't yet unDRM Zune files (which are protected with "DRM 9.1" as MS calls it--supposedly just DRM 9 with a new trick).

Also, Xarus' site is slightly outdated. Instead of using Beta 2 like it tells you, you're much better off using the final version, 11.0.57 as it's stabler and faster. You can get it from MilOtis' April 29 fix or pm me and I'll send you the download link.

Also, if you disable the marketplace (http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/completed/4828-drastically-increase-zune-program-performance.html#post37096) in Zune, the program will run MUCH faster. (At the expense of some minor sync issues... Leesmann and I have been trying to work on it, but the solution seems to be just to switch it back on (http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/completed/5444-zune-marketplace-alternator.html) when you're syncing).

Enjoy, and Welcome To The Social!

MilOtis: Not yet. Hicux just announced it. Although drmdbg (the engine on which FU4WM is based) got an upgrade to support 11.0.6 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1010726#post1010726).

[Sincere303]

What is fairuse4wm commander?

Ever since I installed the Zune software, my FairUse is not working. I tried a few steps to fix it, like uninstall Zune and roll back WMP, but nothing seams to work. Any help would be apprieaciated, thanks.

[mysekurity]

Sincere303: FU4WM Commander is an external program that pretty much automates everything FU4WM can do. If you specify the location of your FU4WM executable and the folder your music downloads to, it will automatically search for all DRM'd tracks, and only return those inflicted with DRM. It then batch processes this list in FU4WM, deletes the original (or saves it if you so choose), and removes the annoying "[No-DRM]" tag FU4WM places at the front of the unDRM'd file. Basically, it's automation now more automatic.

As for Zune: assuming you're running XP, just uninstall the Zune software and the WMF runtime from Add/Remove programs (you might have to click the "show program updates" checkbox in the upper-right corner of A/R). Next, roll back your WMP installation (also from A/R), restart your computer, and open up an explorer window. Go to Tools | Folder Options and click the View tab. Scroll to the "Show Hidden Files and Folders" radio dialog (it should be the first of its kind) and select to show the files. Scroll down just a bit to find "Hide protected operating system files (recommended)" and uncheck it, and confirm that this is what you want to do when the dialog pops up. Click apply and close the box. Now navigate to %AllUsersProfile%/DRM (the default location; if you can't find it, your location is stored in the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DRM) and delete everything in the folder, but don't delete the folder itself.

You can now install WMP11. If you have a copy of the installer for 11.0.57 or earlier, you're fine (don't use 11.0.6 or later!). If you don't, just pm me for the download link. When it's finished installing, you might want to restart, or you might not, depending. Open up IE (it won't work in any other browser) and head to http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

Click the upgrade button. If it's grayed out, it's because you're not using IE. Do it.

Do a test run to make sure you can still unDRM using your favorite P4S downloading service. If successful, you can install Zune, which shouldn't modify any of your DRM settings.

The most important thing is that you don't allow Windows Media Player to update. Security component updates (despite how scary they look) are actually fine to install, as should be any update to your music store. Also, don't install Update 929399 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929399), as it will update your ibx as well.


Any questions?

[milOtis]

link not working for drm update...
http://panda.orz.hm/uploader/5/src/up48.zip

anyone have a working one?

::: milOtis

-edit- it's back up, nevermind

[milOtis]

i dont get this drmdbg thing...when i use it by itself, or with automate undrm 2.0 (replacing the old drmdbg) it just opens windows media player...waits like 20 seconds, then gives some error about setup_wm.exe not working

i've tried using it as a command line tool also, but when i type "drmdbg /?" at the prompt, to see all it can do, it doesn't give me any text, just opens WMP and then gives me the setup_wm.exe error

how do i use this until fairuse4wm 1.4 is released?

::: milOtis

[GuyPaddock]

To use the drmdbg.exe until FairUse 1.4, you simply run the program and when WMP opens, add a DRM-protected file to the playlist and tell WMP to start playing. A dialog will pop-up with the KID for the SID, and the KID will also be saved to the key file needed to run DRM2WMV. It works for me with Vista and WMP 10, with an 11.0.6000.6324 blackbox.

[Danj]

Am I to assume you're against my 3rd request as well?

Zune DRM? Well, it's not so much that I'm against it as that I'm surprised anyone actually cares about the Zune. It's done so badly that they didn't even bother releasing it over here in Europe (they're allegedly planning a 2008 launch but my guess is it will just fizzle out and they just won't bother). There are many better players on the market these days.

[paranoid87]

Zune and FairUse work okey together?

[derfnoslen]

I just asked mysekurity about that queston, he said "FU4WM can't yet unDRM Zune files (which are protected with "DRM 9.1" as MS calls it--supposedly just DRM 9 with a new trick)".

I tried it, it doesn't work but it does work using the WMP11 (URGE) method that you can find futher up on thispage.

[mysekurity]

Danj: Sorry, I meant my 2nd request (integrating FairUseCommander into the shell)

GuyPaddock: It doesn't work for me under XP SP2 running 11.0.57 (a.k.a. runs FU4WM). It will launch WMP (or maximize it if it's already open) and doesn't really do anything. Anything I'm missing? Do I need to be using 11.0.6?

And what's the progress integrating it, hicux?

[gtb5]

Hi all I'm new here and would like to know is it true that I have to play the downloaded song at least once to obtain the DRM code? The WMA titles that I have downloaded required to be played on WMP 11, then there's no way I could ever use Fairuse 1.3 to strip DRM since I must upgrade to WMP11 to have the song played and I now get the "XXX.wma requires a different private key" and "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." errors.

[nomorecoasters]

Can this be used to over the DRM for Skys Anytime package?

Sky Anytime on PC securely delivers content via the internet. Once the file has been downloaded, Microsoft Digital Rights Management software will prevent unauthorised viewing and will automatically delete the file from your PC once your licence to view it expires.


If so what version should i be using?

[abudara]

http://sky.advenbbs.net/bbs/DRMdbg2005.htm

[nomorecoasters]

Er whats that link for?

Is that for me or was it left in some part of your post thats been edited?

[bruuno117]

Im currently trying to get rid of drm from some files, and I have get hold of Fairuse4wm, and when its first run it want to recover keys (whatever that means).

It says "no keys loaded, and when I click "recover keys" it gives me this message "IBX component does not appear to be present".

when I pres "OK" another windows appear, called "extract DRMv1 keys" with some mublejumble telling me i have "Drmclien.dll version 9.0.0.3250" !?

So can someone please tell me what I have to do, to make this thing work ?

Im using WindowsXP, with wmp11 installed.

[abudara]

The link is a forum concerning drmdbg.
Latest drmdbg can be found.

[nomorecoasters]

The link is a forum concerning drmdbg.
Latest drmdbg can be found.

Is there an English version im not sure exactly what im looking at lol

[JamesyBHOY]

Does anyone know how to get around this error message: "UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Packet truncated, 25467 needed, 2683 remains, at offset 13317."
I downloaded it last month, never had time to watch it. License expired, so logged in & got another license for it. The file now plays fine on WMP but when I use FU4WM on it, the error message above appears!

Thanks..

[Wilbert]

@abudara,
The link is a forum concerning drmdbg.
Latest drmdbg can be found.
When i try to unzip the package (ng5012.zip) it says password not valid?

Is it possible to make it also open source?

[abudara]

The password is correct.
B6244PMg6K14Q4jrv9cx3R14FZ6696

[abudara]

Is there an English version im not sure exactly what im looking at lol

I'm sorry. It knows only it.

[Wilbert]

Ok, you can get drmdbg_19062007 here:

http://www.savefile.com/files/822788

Translation by http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/ gives


This drmdbg received and united a lot of valuable advice from Mr. taku. Therefore, it opens it to the public as drmdbg of the taku & inoyan version.

It opens it to the public for the time being though the possibility
to be planned easily is large because the confirmation is taken only with IndivBox.key v11.0.6000.6324.


System requirements

1.Win2000,XP?VISTA uncorresponds.
2.Wmp v8 or more(This : because it is the ..can confirmation here.. oldest. )
3.Less than IndivBox.key v10.00.00.3802 or v11.0.6000.6324
4.Only wmp v10.00.00.3650 corresponds when the target is DRM1.


How to use.

1.Drmdbg start
2.Selection -> reproduction of DRM assistant's animation because of start of wmp. Or, it reproduces from "URL is opened".
3.When the console window (DOS screen) is made the foremost side, and KID becomes appropriate. Some keys are pushed. If it is necessary to select this because KID exists also in CM etc.
4.The message box is displayed, and KID and SID are forwarded to the clipboard. In addition, drm1\drm1-i.key or drm2\drm2-i.key is made on desktop.

- Drmdbg.ini is not used in this taku & inoyan version.

Please inform me if trouble etc. are found.

Update history

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[Awax]

FairUse4WM does not work with the final version of wmp 11, only previous versions. You have to role back wmp 11 to wmp 10.