FairUse4WM - a WM/DRM removal program

[blutach]

Well, let's move on and perhaps when you are not on duty, you can use search. In the meantime, I wish a happy new year to you, your patients and everyone on this board.

Regards

[PrivateJoker]

I am running WM 10 and Fairuse4wm is no longer working for me. I tried following the instructions that were posted but no luck. I do not see WM as a running service. Was that step only for Wm11 users?

[Danj]

My question is, is there any way of removing DRM protection from a file you don't have a licence for?

A common misconception here seems to be that "people won't tell you how to do this because it goes against fair use". Although that is obviously a consideration, the main problem with it is, you NEED the license in order to be able to decrypt the file. If you don't have the license, you can't get the key to decrypt the file with.

[Panarchy]

I keep on getting this error!

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3752/wmpvmy9.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wmpvmy9.jpg)

Please help!

[jbhitter24]

can anyone repost a mirror for fairuse 1.3? it appears all the previous ones have been shut down.

and if i have installed the zune software previous to milOtis' fix, then i should be ok i presume.

EDIT: i checked the search and i didnt find anything. keep up the good work guys.

[winlinmac]

panarachy: try running as administrator or launch fairuse4wm directly.

does any one have a valid link to milotis's fix? I have tried to replace most of the wmplayer 11 rtm files with 11 beta 2 ones and fixed the registry version number settings (there are around 5 places where it stores the current version number) but every time I reindividualize it gives me ibx version 6000. i thought his fix avoids rolling back to version 10 and reinstalling the beta.

i also wrote a program to switch media player components, the dllcache files and the registry version numbers of wmplayer.exe, wmp.dll, and wmploc.dll if any1 is interested. So now i can easily switch from wmp 9 - 11 and anything in between. (7 doesn't work yet but i'm trying...)

[VivaFairUse4WM]

I keep on getting this error!

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3752/wmpvmy9.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wmpvmy9.jpg)

Please help!


Your path to the FairUse4WM.exe is invalid (you are using the default) You have to use the select button and point it to the correct location of the fairuse4wm.exe. FairUse Commander is only a front end tool that calls FairUse4WM.exe and does some file renaming.

[Panarchy]

Okay, I will try that now.;)

[Panarchy]

Um, I can't find it on my computer. Requesting link.

[JarrettH]

what happened to Viod? :scared:

[Panarchy]

Viod? What that?

[Digga]

can anyone repost a mirror for fairuse 1.3? it appears all the previous ones have been shut down.again, at least the links provided in post #3 and #6 are still up.

[PrivateJoker]

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 8,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.




Any suggestions?

[CER22]

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 8,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.




Any suggestions?

You need to do the roll back. Check a few pages before for directions.

[hanugro]

again, at least the links provided in post #3 and #6 are still up.
Is that ver1.3Fix?

[hanugro]

what happened to Viod? :scared:

He is dodging M$ agent right now. Hope the best for him and hopefully new FU4WM1.4. One of the best piece of free apps I ever encounter.

[PrivateJoker]

I did the rollback that milOtis posted, but I'm still getting that error.

[cblinkdude182]

I have gotten the Napster 7 Day Free Trial and download over 1000 songs. I have WMP 10 and I am using fairuse4wm 1.2 fix and everytime I get the program open and then click ok and all that crap, it says pick an active licensed file and i go to one of my Napster songs and it says it doesnt have a license. What can I do???

[blutach]

That's because you don't have a licence! You have a trial of a service. You need a licence to UnDRM the tunes.

Enjoy listening to the 1,000 songs. While you are doing so, may I ask you to carefully read and understand rule 6 please?

Regards

[Morbo]

http://www.spiketv.com/mods/afro/player/index.jhtml

If you wanna test...there's a 480p video there....you can get the file
HERE (http://a1926.g.akamai.net/downloadstor.download.akamai.com/10768/spiketv.com/AfroSamurai_WithPromo_drm_480p.wmv)

I had WMP11......reinstalled WMP10(DO NOT DO THE UPDDATES)....

Played file,when asked for update......stopped...ran 4U..saved undrm'd file.......file now works in WMP10.....un patched.

This is a free download with DRM.......probably timebombed....but still....JIC you need to 'test' w/o screwing up anything.

[cblinkdude182]

So U mean i can't convert them???

[cblinkdude182]

I got a DRM Video Sample from ezdrm.com and i run fairuse and then it says close all windows media instances and i click ok and then it says find a drm file and i go to my sample video and then it opens in wmp and says do you want to open a page to get the license and i say yes and then it finds it and gives me the option to play or cancel, and i have played it and not played it and still fairuse just sits their aquiring licenses...help?

[blutach]

So U mean i can't convert them???Precisely.

Regards

[Deihmos]

I have gotten the Napster 7 Day Free Trial and download over 1000 songs. I have WMP 10 and I am using fairuse4wm 1.2 fix and everytime I get the program open and then click ok and all that crap, it says pick an active licensed file and i go to one of my Napster songs and it says it doesnt have a license. What can I do???

If you are stealing music why not keep it to yourself? People like you make me sick

[CER22]

I did the rollback that milOtis posted, but I'm still getting that error.

I did the one that motoboy used and it worked for me. If you need more help PM me.

[blutach]

@Deihmos - please respect rule 4.

Regards

[hicux]

:sly: First of all, happy new year 2007 to everybody.
I just wanna say that the programa Fairuse4WM 1.3fix is still working. Just follow the instruction. I m still [EDITED BY BLUTACH] microsoft... Be ready for FairUse4Wm 1.4
greeting from Viodenta and Hicuxh4ker

[xwings]

We'll...not for me. As I said I keep getting a message during decrypt that says it "requires a different key" then it fails to decrypt. Can someone point me to instructions on how to repair the FU4WM and WMP10 handshake or link or whatever? How do I get FU4WM to look for a new set of keys?

EDIT: NEVERMIND, I figured out how to force FU4WM 1.3 to recover a new set of keys..........:stupid: It now works with WMP10..:cool:


Could you tell me how to force it to recover the new Key.
I use 1.3 fix it still doesn't work for me.

thanks

[blutach]

@hicux - we are all looking forward to viodentia's return and new versions, if that be the case.

What we don't like is your language. Please respect our rules (see rule 4) and the fact that this forum is open to members of all age groups.

Regards

[PrivateJoker]

I did the one that motoboy used and it worked for me. If you need more help PM me.

Thanks Cer everything is now working.

[ndenum]

pls hw can i get back my lost licence?i need help pls.

[ndenum]

help mi pls.i need to get ma songs

[Doom9]

If you don't have valid license, you're at the wrong place and need to contact the company where you bought your songs from. And you need to familiarize yourself with our forum rules, especially rule 12 and 6 or your stay here will be very shortlived.

[yaonan]

It doesn't work in Windows Media Player 11.
(ver. 11.0.5721.5145) It is not beta version.
What can I do?
It can't open the wma film to find the DRM, so it doesn't work.
(※ Sorry, my English is very poor.)
(※ Would you reply me with an e-mail? My e-mail: 50515@yahoo.com.tw Thank you very much.)

[oldshark1957]

I've purchased music from Yahoo! -- purchased, not rented, at the full $0.99/song rate -- and would like to remove the protection from those songs so I can back them up onto CDs or play them on my other networked computers.

I've actually been following this thread since late November. With due respect to the moderators (who I saw chew on the doctor who posted previously), this thread is now so incredibly cluttered, and filled with conflicting advice, that it's worse than useless -- it's downright confusing. Trying to follow all that conflicting advice has eaten up hours and hours of my time, and it's not done me a bit of good. It's just made me very, very frustrated. I don't mean to seem whiny, but if the point of this thread and these forums is to actually HELP people, it's not doing a very good job right now.

I realize it's an imposition upon the patience of the more technically savvy readers here, but I have an earnest request:

Could someone write a reply on this thread -- or, if the moderators think it appropriate, start a new thread -- with a detailed, from-scratch explanation of how to remove the protection (including links to such software, like FairUse4WM, as updated or patched, as is needed)? Please assume that your reader (like me) is starting with Windows Media Player 11.0, with all updates to it, fully installed.

Thanks in advance to any white knights who have the technical ability and the patience to respond to my request.

[sonicbox]

oldshark1957, sorry I can't help fix this mess of a thread. Do note you can burn your purchased Yahoo! music to CD without any hacking. The license allows that. The songs will have no DRM after that. You can also play Yahoo! DRM music on multiple PCs... at least 3, if I remember. The license allows that, too. You'll need to login to Yahoo! Music on the other PCs and it'll load the license when it needs it.

[Danj]

I realize it's an imposition upon the patience of the more technically savvy readers here, but I have an earnest request:

Could someone write a reply on this thread -- or, if the moderators think it appropriate, start a new thread -- with a detailed, from-scratch explanation of how to remove the protection (including links to such software, like FairUse4WM, as updated or patched, as is needed)? Please assume that your reader (like me) is starting with Windows Media Player 11.0, with all updates to it, fully installed.

The problem is not one of patience, it's the simple fact that because of all the many different configurations of Windows PCs out there, the one-size-fits-all approach does not always work.

Since you have all the Windows Media Player updates installed, you would need to check if Yahoo Music will allow you to redownload songs, because the "roll-back" procedure that you would need to perform will destroy any existing DRM licenses you have (not just music but video too).

The reason why this roll-back procedure is needed is that the current version of FairUse4WM (1.3fix) does not support the latest version of Microsoft's "Individualized Black Box DLL" (referred to in this thread as "IBX" for short). This file is the critical system file which handles the encryption and decryption processes involved in Microsoft's DRM. A few forum posters here have discovered a method whereby they can obtain an older IBX by replacing certain Windows Media Player files with older versions. Unfortunately this seems to be a hit-and-miss process as not everyone has been able to get it to work. Also, because this file is individualized, you cannot simply download a copy of it from someone else, you have to obtain it via the proper individualization process which takes place on Microsoft's web site, otherwise it simply won't work at all.

I personally do not have any experience with the roll-back process since (so far at least) I haven't yet been forced to upgrade to Windows Media Player 11, and consequently I still have IBX version 11.0.5497.6285. If you wish to determine your own IBX version, you can follow these steps:

1. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View tab.
2. Check "Show hidden files and folders".
3. Uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types" and "Hide protected operating system files".
4. Load Windows Explorer.
5. Go to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM.
6. Right click Indivbox.key (may also be called Indiv001.key or Indiv002.key or something - pick the one with the highest number if so) and choose Properties.
7. Click the Version tab.

Your IBX version number will be displayed at the top. If it is 11.0.6000.6324 or higher then you will need to perform the roll-back process and hope it works for you. If not, then either FairUse4WM 1.3fix or FairUse4WM 1.3 should work for decrypting your files.

FairUse4WM itself is pretty self-explanatory... it is presented in a wizard style format and supports both dragging and dropping of files and also passing filenames on the command line. The first time you use it you will need to recover your DRM keys, but after that, unless for some reason your IBX gets upgraded or you have to reindividualize, it will remember them and go straight to the file chooser dialog.

[Basti[08/15]]

hey guys, i have a strange problem. Fairuse4m normally works great here. I used it for *.wmv and *.wma files. But now, i got some kind of different .wmv file. The license for this movie isn't saved anymore; everytime i play this movie, the license is aquired again.

This has never happened before, normally the files are aquired once and then saved. With this "new" type of .wmv file, fairuse4wm says that there is no valid license found...


http://bwiebertha.de/fairuse.jpg

hope someone can help

[xaveryptak]

Anybody have applied recent security update from MSF "Security Update for Windows Media Player 6.4 (KB925398)"to WMP 10? I just don't want to lose ability to use FairUse4Wm.

[TECK]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/28/microsoft-already-on-their-way-to-patching-fairuse4wm/

[rdn98]

Yea, I read that too a few months ago, but fairuse4wm 1.3fix still works, so the article is correct, but not 100% correct. :)

[ddawg883]

Any word on a fairuse 1.4?

[oldshark1957]

Danj, thank you for the clear instructions and comments. I'm IBIX version 11.0.6000.6324, and I'm unwilling to risk losing my existing DRM licenses.

Yahoo!'s Jukebox is supposed to allow you to stream audio from the computer on which the purchased song was downloaded to another networked computer. But you have to disable the target computer's firewall, and even then I'm still getting the crippleware 30-second versions of the music used as teasers on Yahoo!'s website. When I emailed their customer service, the reply was prompt: I should turn up my volume or turn off my mute. Duh. One of those responses that leaves you wondering whether they're idiots or they just think I am. (Probably both.)

I had tried copying my downloaded .wma files to one of my networked computers and trying the roll-back procedure on it; heeding the FairUse4MW 1.3 warning, I had also downloaded one new song directly to that computer so it would have one working DMR license. But although the rolled-back WMP ver. 10 seemed to work fine, I still couldn't get FairUse4MW to work.

So I guess I'll sit tight and hope for a FairUse4MW ver. 1.4 someday. Thanks again for the time and effort you put into your reply -- I'm sure it will be very useful for other folks as well!

[Danj]

When I emailed their customer service, the reply was prompt: I should turn up my volume or turn off my mute. Duh. One of those responses that leaves you wondering whether they're idiots or they just think I am. (Probably both.)

Actually I would expect that the reply you received was automated. That usually accounts for its seeming irrelevance to your problem.

[JarrettH]

how can i backup my license key for terminator 2 wmv hd?

[blutach]

Just how did you get such a license key?

Regards

[JarrettH]

It must be on my machine somewhere. I'll just watch the DVD instead, I've given up on this [edited]. Looks great in WMP11 except I'm not going to keep it around to play one movie. I hope one day I can watch the HD version from the DVD using media player classic. :cool:

[blutach]

Yes, it must. You didn't answer my question and instead responded with profanity, which we do not tolerate.

Strike issued.

Regards

[AjaxGotGame]

So hicux when is the relese of this golden app suposed to show up its been a week...

[JarrettH]

what do you mean how did i get a license key? are you assuming i don't own the dvd? you should know for protected movies like this - if not music - you are given a license key to playback the movie for a period of time, just look up "terminator" and you will understand

[blutach]

A license to play is limited and you do not own the content - you have merely rented it.

Whetehr you own the DVD or not is irrelevant. The content in question is not a DVD file but a WMV.

As well, I assumed nothing - I asked you. You responded with profanity which is why you received the strike. Further resposes in this vein will incur another strike, which sadly, will lead to suspension.

Regards

[milOtis]

born free.....as free as the wind blows....as free as the grasss grows....

ok ok, i am unsuspended now, if anyone needs help with all this fairuse4wm stuff, i just rolled back a friends' computer yesterday and so fairuse4wm is still working, and he even had all the latest updates and downloads from microsoft, so pm me if you need help, i have the instructions for how to fix fairuse4wm/wmp all wrapped up in a tidy package.

::: milOtis

[dirtminer]

what do you mean how did i get a license key? are you assuming i don't own the dvd? you should know for protected movies like this - if not music - you are given a license key to playback the movie for a period of time, just look up "terminator" and you will understand

This was covered earlier in the thread, but I'll recap.

Typically, physical media with WMV files will use 1-play licenses so you access their server every usage.
Fix this by setting Windows Media to prompt for license acquisition. WM will get the license and wait for you to click "[Play]". If you don't click "[Play]", the license isn't consumed and other programs can use it.

[tjf]

This was covered earlier in the thread, but I'll recap.

Typically, physical media with WMV files will use 1-play licenses so you access their server every usage.

This is not the case of Terminator 2 wmv HD. If you have the DVD in your drive, you will get a 6 day license (you must connect from USA or use a proxy).

[blutach]

Neither of which display you have bought content for your own use and benefit absolutely for all time. Only to play.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@tjf

It doesn't take much to confuse me - and I'm confused about the "Terminator 2" discussion in this thread.

Is this a purchased DVD that contains both the normal (.IFOs, .BUPs, .VOBs) resolution movie and a high res, .WMV version of either the entire movie or a portion of it?

Or is it strictly a purchased WMV/HD version?

(Or is it the little 2 minute clip that's freely available for download from Microsoft at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/musicandvideo/hdvideo/contentshowcase.aspx )

[JarrettH]

It has the special edition on disc one and wmv files of the HD version (720p I think) on disc two. The wmv files have DRM.

How do you use this program anyway? Maybe it doesn't work for me because like you guys said my license is not stored on my system. Recover keys does nothing for me. I only ever looked into this program to remove DRM on this movie.

I think discussion of T2 HD is important because I have never seen DRM successfully stripped from it. No one seems to be able to back it up reading at avsforum and topics at doom9.

[setarip_old]

@JarretHIt has the special edition on disc one and wmv files of the HD version (720p I think) on disc two. The wmv files have DRM.Thanks for clarifying.

If that's the case, applying the logic we've all used to justify ripping DVDs, it would seem to me that if I purchased that two disc DVD set, I'd be equally entitled to rip both the standard version and the HD version contained in the purchased set - it's just a matter of different copy protection schemes...

[tjf]

Neither of which display you have bought content for your own use and benefit absolutely for all time. Only to play.

I don't agree. If I bought the WMV HD DVD then I have right to watch it whenever I want. However the DRM restricts me: there is a need of internet connection, USA location, installing very buggy software (InterActual) and working license servers.

Two years ago, long before FairUse4WM I copied it to my HD. It was quite difficult process which I described here (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5556628&&#post5556628). But I bet with FairUse4WM it must be much easier.

Tomas

[blutach]

@tjf - I am not familiar with the licence for this content. But it does sound restrictive. Thanks for the info.

Let's get back on topic.

Regards

[vha2581]

Anyone know how I can convert and remove? Maybe there is something that I haven't looked at. Can we use fairuse on the new real drm? Just hit me back with your opinions?

[mountainbikextremist]

I just downloaded Fairuse4wm, and I can't get it to work. I have already done some very extensive searching "several afternoons worth of looking", and I cant seem to find a clear solution to my problem. For all of you computer geeks, this probably seems clear cut, but for me it isnt. I am good with computers, but I have my limitations if you know what I mean.:scared: So, please bear with me:o Anyways, this is what is happening to me:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6127/1so5.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3677/2vp7.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2771/3wk8.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1237/4mm1.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9959/5sr5.jpg

If you could make your instructions as clearcut as possible, that would be awsome! Thanks a bunch guys!:cool:

[omjeremy]

You need to download and use the 11-27 fix. You have too new of a version of the IBX. The 11-27 fix rolls back WMP 11 to WMP 11beta. Look for the file in the thread (it is here) and follow the instructions therein.

[aadvanced1]

I have around 1200 protected WMA files, and I noticed that when I have tried to select all of them, fairuse4wm crashes. I assume that the error has something to do how many files I am selecting, but to my knowledge the limit on selecting files in most programs is around either 16,000 or 32,000. I know that the 32k limit is true in VB and C. Is there any way to get around that limit, such as loading the file list from an external source (txt or otherwise)?

Yes, all 1200 songs are bought, not rented. The DRM is not a problem since my IBX version is older, and is v11 beta.

[mountainbikextremist]

I just got done doing ALOT of searching, and I have only managed to frustrait myself! I rolled my WMP11 back to WMP10, and downloaded FairUSeWM 1.2 (fix) I encountered a different problem however.

1. I click on Recover Keys, and I get a screen that says:
Attempting to recouver DRMv1 keys

FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information.

"DrmClien.DLL" has version 10.0.3802

2. So I click "Ok" and get this message:
This program will freeze until Media Player exits. You may have to close Media Player manually if it runs longer than a minute.
"Indiv01.key" has version 11.6000.6324

Please close all Media Player windows!
Click OK what you are ready to proceed

3. So I close out of WMP and anything else, and hit "OK"

4. Then I get a winow that pops up that says: "Choose a licensed Windows Media file that has a working license..." Sooo, i proceed to do and select a Licensed Windows Media Player File in My Music...

4. Then Windows Media Player pops up, and says its trying to open media... I wait, and wait, and wait, and nothing happens...

5. I try and close out of WMP, and FairUse crashes "freaks out, and quits responding" I have done this with multiple WMP Licensed files, and I get the same result.

6. If I leave WMP open as I select a file to "Recover the Key from" I get an error that says:

Unable to recouver private key

Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance.

Retry Cancel

7. So i click Retry, and it brings me right back to the "Recovering Unique Identifiers" window

Any help is greatly apreciated! Im new to this all, so if im doing something stupid, I dont intend to:p

[omjeremy]

Rolling back WMP 11 to WMP 10 won't work. Here is a link for the file I told you about:
http://www.f-forge.com?d=dP4ISM53KQGfjvR96eBH

Follow the directions therein and you should be fine. Also, you should be using version 1.3fix. You can get that here: http://www.f-forge.com/?d=zZvpPERaUnIOFjwX7AW4

Also, please note that this process deletes your licenses. You will need to reacquire them. The usual way to reacquire them is to just play them in WMP and you will be prompted to download the license.

[Voltacid]

I am trying to use this fairuse4wm1.3 and when I attempt to load my liscence I get an error message stating that I do not have any IBX Components. I have Windows mediaplayer 10 and have tried this on another computer of mine without any problems. Is there any way that I can get the required IBX components?

[mountainbikextremist]

Rolling back WMP 11 to WMP 10 won't work. Here is a link for the file I told you about:
http://www.f-forge.com?d=dP4ISM53KQGfjvR96eBH

Follow the directions therein and you should be fine. Also, you should be using version 1.3fix. You can get that here: http://www.f-forge.com/?d=zZvpPERaUnIOFjwX7AW4

Also, please note that this process deletes your licenses. You will need to reacquire them. The usual way to reacquire them is to just play them in WMP and you will be prompted to download the license.


I just tried that and now I get this error:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 7,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

[dockler]

Is there anyway I can have the path that I added myself from the <Add New Path> menu to stay in the drop down list permenantley?.

[omjeremy]

You must be doing something wrong mountainbikeextremist, because it shows that you still have the wrong version (11.0.6000.6324 and up is unsupported). Follow all the steps outlined in WM Fix.zip and you will be fine. I couldn't find step 3, but I followed all the other steps and it still worked for me. There really is nothing more I can tell you.

[mountainbikextremist]

You must be doing something wrong mountainbikeextremist, because it shows that you still have the wrong version (11.0.6000.6324 and up is unsupported). Follow all the steps outlined in WM Fix.zip and you will be fine. I couldn't find step 3, but I followed all the other steps and it still worked for me. There really is nothing more I can tell you.

Aight, I'm gonna try and go through the process again. :thanks: ALOT for your clear instructions and patience!

[mountainbikextremist]

You must be doing something wrong mountainbikeextremist, because it shows that you still have the wrong version (11.0.6000.6324 and up is unsupported). Follow all the steps outlined in WM Fix.zip and you will be fine. I couldn't find step 3, but I followed all the other steps and it still worked for me. There really is nothing more I can tell you.

I just got done trying again, and still the same error. I know if following the directions correctly. I went back to the DRM folder, after i had deleted everything, and did the upgrade through the link provided, and it tells me that my IBX number is the same. Maybe the link provided isnt giving me the the right IBX #?

[cashdude]

I just got done trying again, and still the same error. I know if following the directions correctly. I went back to the DRM folder, after i had deleted everything, and did the upgrade through the link provided, and it tells me that my IBX number is the same. Maybe the link provided isnt giving me the the right IBX #?

I also have done the rollback many times but fear that when we reindividualize it gives us the latest ibx version.

[CER22]

ok this is what I did and worked for me a month or so ago (hope I got this all right):

This is what microsoft suggests:
Rolling back to a previous version of the Player
Windows Media Player is a feature of the Windows operating system and cannot be removed entirely. However, in Windows XP, you can roll back to the version of the Player that was previously on your computer.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group to perform the following procedure.

1.
Disconnect any portable music or video devices that might be attached to your computer.
For more information, see Issues with devices after removing Windows Media Player.
2.
In Category View of Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Remove a program.
3.
At the top of the list, select the Show updates check box.
4.
In the Windows XP - Software Updates section, click Windows Media Player 11, and then click Change/Remove.
5.
In each of the two confirmation dialog boxes that appear, click OK.
6.
When the rollback process is complete (it might take several minutes to complete), click Restart.
7.
In Category View of Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Remove a program.
8.
At the top of the list, select the Show updates check box.
9.
In the Windows XP - Software Updates section, click Windows Media Format 11 Runtime, and then click Change/Remove.
If you installed a non-US English version of Windows Media Player 11, the instructions in the dialog boxes that are mentioned in steps 9, 10, and 11 might appear in English.
10.
In the first confirmation dialog box that appears, click OK.
11.
In the second confirmation dialog box that appears, select the Do you want to continue with the rollback? check box, and then click OK.
12.
When the rollback process is complete (it might take several minutes to complete), click Restart.
13.
In Category View of Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Remove a program.
14.
Click Microsoft User-Mode Driver Frameworks Feature Pack 1.0, and then click Remove.
15.
Follow the instructions that appear in the Software Update Removal Wizard.
If the Wudf01000 confirmation dialog box appears, click Yes to continue. When the software removal process is complete (it might take several minutes to complete), click Finish.





Download the roll back fix, delete everything in your DRM folders (make sure you are showing all hidden files and all microsoft protected files) and make sure you follow all directions in the roll back fix but do not copy the windows media player & runtime folders until after you do this:

GOTO ->
C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallwmp11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

after the rollback is complete... a restart might be required... then afterwards...

C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

restart.

Now copy the two windows media & runtime folders into your program folder. Now play a licensed file or go to ezdrm and try out a file and it will update to to the previous ibx version so fairuse should now work.

[VivaFairUse4WM]

I have around 1200 protected WMA files, and I noticed that when I have tried to select all of them, fairuse4wm crashes. I assume that the error has something to do how many files I am selecting, but to my knowledge the limit on selecting files in most programs is around either 16,000 or 32,000. I know that the 32k limit is true in VB and C. Is there any way to get around that limit, such as loading the file list from an external source (txt or otherwise)?

Yes, all 1200 songs are bought, not rented. The DRM is not a problem since my IBX version is older, and is v11 beta.


Try running with the FairUseCommander front end. For such a large amount of files it should invoke it's batch limiting code (if the batch feature is enabled) which may work around this problem (it will result is several calls to FairUse instead of just one to keep it under the 32k character command line argument length). If that still doesn't work you can disable the batching completely and it will call FairUse via command line 1200 times. It won't be pretty but it will get the job done.

[mountainbikextremist]

I have only managed to screw my computer up, loose all of my music licenses "which I cant get back because I had to cancel to jukebox subscription", and really frustriate myself!:mad: :mad: :mad: So here goes the long process of trying to reverse all crap I did to my computer! I will wait for Viendata to come out with Fairuse4wm v1.4... I have had enough of this "rolling back" stuff! I really apreciate everyones great help, but it just seems like a "no go" for me at this point... Over and out!

[milOtis]

blutach - you need to keep in mind though, that if you use the URGE trial, the songs you downloaded after that trial is over STILL play, even when the trial has ended and you have not purchased a subscription, so you need to know that URGE is different from the rest of the subscription/trial services.

the license is forever to play which is the same as the bought music from other services, so if you use URGE subscription to download you OWN, wheras other services make your music unplayable when your subscription ends, so URGE downloads are the same as owning since the licenses work indefinately even after cancelling or ending the trial.

::: milOtis

[blutach]

I will read the terms and conditions of use again - this topic is best discussed off line. PM me if you wish to point me in a direction that shows users have the rights of purchasers.

Regards

[mountainbikextremist]

blutach - you need to keep in mind though, that if you use the URGE trial, the songs you downloaded after that trial is over STILL play, even when the trial has ended and you have not purchased a subscription, so you need to know that URGE is different from the rest of the subscription/trial services.

the license is forever to play which is the same as the bought music from other services, so if you use URGE subscription to download you OWN, wheras other services make your music unplayable when your subscription ends, so URGE downloads are the same as owning since the licenses work indefinately even after cancelling or ending the trial.

::: milOtis


Are you sure? If i right click on a song I downloaded from my Urge Free Trial, and click on Media Usage Rights, it says: This File Can Be Played Until 2/1/2007...

[blutach]

In any event, can we play stay on topic to FU4WM please?

Regards

[mountainbikextremist]

Any news on Fairuse4wm v1.4 yet? Waiting as patiently as i can:D

[ybarra]

Any news on Fairuse4wm v1.4 yet? Waiting as patiently as i can:D

The problem a lot of people are having is the WM11 redistributible. I had the latest version of WM11 on both of my PC's and tried everything and it wouldn't work until I figured out I had to uninstall the WM11 redistributible along with WM11. Go into your windows folder and look for the WM11 uninstall as well as the WM11 redistributible uninstall. Run both. This will revert you back to WM10 or WM9 depending on what you had previously. Then you can delete your license files as described. Don't bother going to the windows website to generate new licenses. Just go to www.oldapps.com and download WM11 Beta. When you install the beta, it will give you the old WM11 redistributible at the same time and generate your license files. You can then buy a song from Walmart.com and play it once and then extract the Walmart.com keys with fairuse4wm. I've done it on 3 different PC's now without any problems (all of them had the latest WM11 on it). Keep in mind that the minute you delete your old license files to generate new ones, any content you had locked to those keys will no longer be playable or extractable. This will only work on new files you purchase.

[cashdude]

The problem a lot of people are having is the WM11 redistributible. I had the latest version of WM11 on both of my PC's and tried everything and it wouldn't work until I figured out I had to uninstall the WM11 redistributible along with WM11. Go into your windows folder and look for the WM11 uninstall as well as the WM11 redistributible uninstall. Run both. This will revert you back to WM10 or WM9 depending on what you had previously. Then you can delete your license files as described. Don't bother going to the windows website to generate new licenses. Just go to www.oldapps.com and download WM11 Beta. When you install the beta, it will give you the old WM11 redistributible at the same time and generate your license files. You can then buy a song from Walmart.com and play it once and then extract the Walmart.com keys with fairuse4wm. I've done it on 3 different PC's now without any problems (all of them had the latest WM11 on it). Keep in mind that the minute you delete your old license files to generate new ones, any content you had locked to those keys will no longer be playable or extractable. This will only work on new files you purchase.

I have done this a few times over the last week but it seems that MS has put in a catch when installing an older version. It says that there is a problem with the install and asks you to download from their site. I have successfully rolled back the WMP11 but I can't get my old player to work. It crashes when I try to play a movie.

[soccerdude240]

I got fairuse awhile back and im having the same problem as mountainbike extremest. now i dont care how i do it but i really twant to strip drms off my music. it has literally been driving me insane. ive tried pretty much every tutorial on here and i was wondering if any of you have an idea to make fairuse work or if there is a different way to stip drms? I'm good wi9th computers (i built my own :]) but i cant figure out how to get this program to work. this is also my first time with drm stripping...:D

[soccerdude240]

The problem a lot of people are having is the WM11 redistributible. I had the latest version of WM11 on both of my PC's and tried everything and it wouldn't work until I figured out I had to uninstall the WM11 redistributible along with WM11. Go into your windows folder and look for the WM11 uninstall as well as the WM11 redistributible uninstall. Run both. This will revert you back to WM10 or WM9 depending on what you had previously. Then you can delete your license files as described. Don't bother going to the windows website to generate new licenses. Just go to www.oldapps.com and download WM11 Beta. When you install the beta, it will give you the old WM11 redistributible at the same time and generate your license files. You can then buy a song from Walmart.com and play it once and then extract the Walmart.com keys with fairuse4wm. I've done it on 3 different PC's now without any problems (all of them had the latest WM11 on it). Keep in mind that the minute you delete your old license files to generate new ones, any content you had locked to those keys will no longer be playable or extractable. This will only work on new files you purchase.

is this possile without doin things from walmart.com

[mmtux]

Hello!

Does someone know if fairuse4wm is working on Windows Vista?

[WalterK]

i doubt it will work in the final version of Vista since that ships with the Final version of WMP11.
And who knows MS may have blocked any tampering with drm files on the software lvl as they have done wth blu-ray and hd-dvd playback.

We will just have to wait and see.
The best bet for folks who want to remove drm and don't want the headache of rolling back software or deleting folders is
1)To create a streamlined install disc of XP using Nlite.
2) Use Vmware server or another virtual pc emulator.
3)Install your streamlined version of XP in that environment and use THAT as your music/movie purchase pc.

Never update to wmp11 final use the last beta beta 3 i believe, and until wmp11 final becomes the default player just use fairuse on the virtual environment and transfer your drm free media over to your real pc with good old networking.

[osmo67]

I just do not get this stuff! I cannot find a way to recover keys! Can somebody help me with this? I am sure the answers are here, I just have not found them.I get this when I try to use Fair Use: IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.

Thanks!

[soccerdude240]

I just do not get this stuff! I cannot find a way to recover keys! Can somebody help me with this? I am sure the answers are here, I just have not found them.I get this when I try to use Fair Use: IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.

Thanks!

ya, thats the same problem im having

[xwings]

ya, thats the same problem im having

I had my Windows use automatically update so it installed Windows media 11 automatically and I couldn't convert my DRM files anymore.
I try everything in the book still couldn't get it to do it.
so, I redo my PC from an image file that I created with WM 10
Now it's working with no problem.
So, my suggestion is roll it back to WM 10 and wait till they come out the one that will work with WM 11 then upgrade it to WM 11.

[mountainbikextremist]

I just do not get this stuff! I cannot find a way to recover keys! Can somebody help me with this? I am sure the answers are here, I just have not found them.I get this when I try to use Fair Use: IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.

Thanks!

IBX stands for individualized blackbox component. This deals with DRM. I have that same version as you "it is the newest, and WILL NOT work with the latest FairUse. Check out "Post #824" I tried this technique, and had no suck luck. Only managed to frustriate myself, and my computer:mad: I too have done extensive searching. Im sure there is a way to get it to work, but I have yet to find it, nor do do I have the time to tinker with it "college student." Right now, i think our best bet is to wait for Voiedata to come out with v1.4. Until then, I patently wait. My nrofessional advice "if you have plenty of time" is to do some searching for "11.0.6000.6324" If you happen to find a solution that works, PM me:D :thanks:

[osmo67]

Thanks, but I tried that and I beleive Urge only works with WM11. I did have everything working perfectly with WM11, but now I am iising something and or doing something wrong!

[soccerdude240]

I had my Windows use automatically update so it installed Windows media 11 automatically and I couldn't convert my DRM files anymore.
I try everything in the book still couldn't get it to do it.
so, I redo my PC from an image file that I created with WM 10
Now it's working with no problem.
So, my suggestion is roll it back to WM 10 and wait till they come out the one that will work with WM 11 then upgrade it to WM 11.

weird thing is is that mine wont roll back to wmp 10...
if it did then fairuse would work on my comp but other than that im stuck at the moment. i might go to oldapps.com to get wmp 10, cause i did an upgrade from wmp 9 to the latest wmp 11...then i rolled back to wmp 11 beta 1. this fairuse thing is really weird for me... but im going to get it to work...i am determined.................lol

[osmo67]

Thanks for the information. I have iunistalled WM 11, installed WM11 BETA 1, and no luck. Any word on when the next version of Fair Use will come out? Hopefully it will solve my problem.

[sinker]

born free.....as free as the wind blows....as free as the grasss grows....

ok ok, i am unsuspended now, if anyone needs help with all this fairuse4wm stuff, i just rolled back a friends' computer yesterday and so fairuse4wm is still working, and he even had all the latest updates and downloads from microsoft, so pm me if you need help, i have the instructions for how to fix fairuse4wm/wmp all wrapped up in a tidy package.

::: milOtis

Could you please send me the tidy package with instructions

[culprit]

Five days isnt that long but I felt like a kid waiting for the new Star Wars movie to come out.

Hopefully someone can help me. I am using Windows MCE and am recording movies for later viewing. More and more lately the movies are protected and when I try to play them on other devices (ie - MiniPS, Other PC, work, on a trip, etc...) I get the message Restricted Content. This really urks me because I am in no way trying to pirate movies I just want to view the movies I have recorded.

I have tried running FairUse4WM but it does not give me the option to select a DVR-MS movie. I have also tried DVR2WMV to convert the DVR to a WMV file so I could use FairUse4WM but the program just hangs and doesnt convert the file.

Could someone please help?

Sincerely,
Rob

[Chrisk_352]

Thanks for the information. I have iunistalled WM 11, installed WM11 BETA 1, and no luck. Any word on when the next version of Fair Use will come out? Hopefully it will solve my problem.

I don't believe there will be anymore updates to fairuse4wm since Microsoft's John Doe lawsuit.

[quietstormeagle]

Hello, for those of you that have tried the new fixes and so forth with version 1.3, these fixes (After you visit microsoft site for the DRM update for IPX or what it is which will give you version 11.0.6XXX.XXXX :mad:) will no longer work. If you have the old 11.0.5XXX.XXXX version you will be fine, but make sure you have automatic updates off for WMP11 turned off - you are one of the lucky ones. Other than that the rest of us will have to wait for the next new version of FU4VM to come out, if there is a possibility of it happening.

[unknownsoldierX]

Or you can downgrade to WMP 10. It worked for me.

I had WMP 11 with all the updates, and I was able to uninstall it and WMP Runtime. I installed WMP 10.0.0.3646, and FU4WM worked again. I then installed all the updates for WMP 10 and it still works.

[Chrisk_352]

Or you can downgrade to WMP 10. It worked for me.

I had WMP 11 with all the updates, and I was able to uninstall it and WMP Runtime. I installed WMP 10.0.0.3646, and FU4WM worked again. I then installed all the updates for WMP 10 and it still works.

Have you tried it with in last couple of days?

[culprit]

Could someone please address the issue of removing DRM from DVR-MS files recorded thru Media Center? It is ridiculous that I cant view these videos on any other computer.

Thanks,
Rob

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Read the information at the following link:

http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/dmc_DVRMS.aspx

[milOtis]

Hopefully someone can help me. I am using Windows MCE and am recording movies for later viewing. More and more lately the movies are protected and when I try to play them on other devices (ie - MiniPS, Other PC, work, on a trip, etc...) I get the message Restricted Content. This really urks me because I am in no way trying to pirate movies I just want to view the movies I have recorded.


yeah, in the media player there is an option to add protection. it is on by default, so you have to disable protection in your options. it will say "are you sure" like ms software ALWASY does, and you just say yes or ok

::: milOtis

[culprit]

I am using Media Center's guide and future programming capabilities to record the television shows/movies I want to see later. I dont think there are any options to disable protection; I think they are being DRM'd during the broadcast somehow.

I have also tried to convert the DVR-MS file directly to a WMV file according to the previous post without luck. The conversion program (Digital Media Converter) locks up after less than a minute into the conversion which is similar to other conversion methods I have tried. I think this has something to do with the DRM copy protection.

Again, this is extremely frustrating and I think I should be able to play my recording on any of my computers and portable devices. If anyone else could give me some more insight it would be greatly appreciated.

Rob

[mysekurity]

Does anyone know if updating Urge to get the Automix update kills FU4WM? In other words, does it update the IBX while it's messing with the rest of Urge and WMP?

I know that creating an account updates the IBX, but does adding your financial information alter anything?

Help would be greatly appreciated.

[Selayan]

I had windows media player 11 and my fairuse4wm stopped working. I then reverted to windows media player 10, and fairuse still does not work. It tells me the songs do not belong to me, when I have napster subscription with penn state.

[mysekurity]

I had windows media player 11 and my fairuse4wm stopped working. I then reverted to windows media player 10, and fairuse still does not work. It tells me the songs do not belong to me, when I have napster subscription with penn state.

Please do not use this program with subscription content (it's in the rules). Subscriptions are already fairly priced as they are. The purpose of this utility was to free purchased content (the kind that you buy for $.99 or $10 per album, etc.), and using it with a subscription furthers the belief that we are stealing. That being said, FU4WM doesn't depend on the version of Windows Media Player, but on the version of its DRM code.

You most likely have a version greater than .6 (see other posts in this forum), and hence it has stopped working for you. Or, there could be a few problem files that FairUse isn't converting (I have about two or three that it says are not licensed to me, but play fine in WMP). In the former case, there's not much you can do except pray for an update or try MilOtis' rollback (which has had varied results). If other files are converting (try using a sample, also found in other parts of this thread), you can contact Napster and see if they will allow you to re-download your purchased media.

Good luck!

[oddball]

I think I will just wait for 1.4 it all sounds like too much hassle. I don't have many wma files anyhow.

[mysekurity]

I think I will just wait for 1.4

One of the results of Microsoft's suit against Viodentia was that he sort-of went into hiding. We also haven't heard much from MonkeyBoy in a while, so the prospects aren't looking good of ever seeing a 1.4. It seems that the best solution to someone who has a newer version of the IBX is to use MilOtis' rollback, which, I understand, may not work anymore (as the individualization site apparently gives people the newest version). Too bad...

[jn441]

I've got DRM version: 11.0.5744.6324 and Indiv Version: 2.5.0.0 on my Vista machine, but FairUse4WM says

IBX components do not appear to be present and No "drmclien.dll" found in path

I've reindividualized a couple of times but no luck (strange that doing this didn't increase the DRM version). When I go to the DRM folder there is no indivbox.key.

Vista also stores the DRM folder in C:\Users\All Users\Microsoft\DRM or C:\Users\All Users\Microsoft\Windows\DRM so maybe it is a path problem with Vista. (c:\Documents and Settings is a JUNCTION now)

I can't uninstall WMP11 because it's built into the OS...

in my DRM folder I have

10/08/2006 12:31 PM 20 blackbox.bin
10/04/2006 04:51 AM <DIR> Cache
01/30/2007 06:32 PM 266,240 drmstore.hds
11/15/2006 08:31 PM 4,348 DRMv1.bak
11/15/2006 08:31 PM 4,348 DRMv1.key
10/08/2006 12:31 PM 9,506 v3ks.bla
10/08/2006 12:31 PM 740 v3ks.sec

[WalterK]

maybe MS did a fix for Vista or fairuse was not built to operate correctly in Vista.
If you still have your XP install disc build a virtualmachine with VMware and use that to remove drm just don't update to wmp11 final no matter how many times it begs for it.
Instead installl wmp 11 beta 2 or 3 if your drm file demands you upgrade.

[torqueywrench]

i have version 1.3 and it worked fine in removing the protected content from my music, i upgraded the software in which i purchase music, and then i downloaded wmp 11 and it started giving me this message "suchsuchfile requires a different private key"

[StreamRipper]

I can't get the WMP downgrading instructions from the given file sharing server. Can anyone please upload to some new servers and share the link.

[NokiaFanatic]

As a first time poster - hello.

Well fortuantly - I stumbled across this site a while back and found this program which works beatuifully! I download music from various places now on the web from 2 differnt machines. Unfortunatly after using the program on one PC for a while - then decided to see if Windows had updates for me. I di not check here first for all the problems with WM11. Now one mchine is out of commision for the downloads. I do hope that 1.4 will come - but like 1 has said, we may not hear from the writer for a while. Which is sad that companies will allow us to pay for music, but only hold us to listening on that 1 PC or a specific prtable player. I for one have a PC, but use an iPod, but download wma's. Its sad that a monopoloy has occured with Microsoft as well with Apple. The music industry should be the ones to step up and let consumers of their purchased product enjoy the music they legally purchased and downloaded on any player they so choose. If they are worried that one person would download it and then share it with others for free, its the same worry as when 1 purchases a CD and makes copies for others as well.

Anyway. Great program!!!

[Selayan]

Its not like I didn't pay for napster in order to download the songs, its part of my technology fee that I pay here every semester which totals to about $100 including everything else. The only reason I like to use Fairuse is that I can't get any of my songs from napter on to my mp3 player. Also, I like having my songs in mp3 style. Ill look for that rollback technique but I dont have time to mess with it now. I guess I have to wait for a new version if there will be one. I mean after my years at college are done, my napster subscription will not work anymore, so then I won't be able to continue to hear those songs, let alone keep them.

[blutach]

That's the point - they are not yours. Please do not clog up this thread with your specific legal issues.

Regards

[Selayan]

Well now I tried fairuse4wm and I got this message:


Extraction in progress on "Indiv002.key" 11.0.5497.6285 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1331 Large 6 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
AES KEY: a9 af c8 15 ae 6b 75 f2 7b 7a 6e d7 57 ea 02 02
Testing 1538 possibilities for primary private key.
Completed. Primary and 3 secondary ECC keys recovered (0 bogus).

This is with windows media player 10. And I'm not doing this with all my music, i myself bought some songs that were not available with the subscription. And these are the ones I want to put on my mp3 player...only about 20 songs cuz the rest of my library was deleted when I formated my HD.

[sonicbox]

Selayan, save yourself some grief... if it's only 20 tracks just burn it to Audio CD and rip to back to unprotected MP3. For that, I can't see much advantage to using "fairuse4wm" since your goal is to convert it to MP3 anyway.

By the way: Napster protected subscription stuff does work on many mp3 players from Creative Labs, Sandisk, iRiver, etc.

[Selayan]

I guess I'll do that for now...but I plan on buying more tracks that I cant get at other places so my library will soon be over 100 some songs. I guess Ill just buy a cd-rw and do wat you suggested until the new fairuse comes out.

[tdudetyler]

I need to remove DRM from my music. And whats the latest fairuse4wm? where can i get it from?

SPECS: Windows Media Player 11 Build 11.0.6000.6324
Windows Vista Ultimate Build 6000
URGE Music Service

[mysekurity]

Selayan: burning drm'd tracks to a cd and ripping them is not nearly as easy as it sounds. WMP has a built-in mechanism to prevent just that, but I recommend you use Audacity to unencrypt your tracks (link (http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1302.0)). They will be of a lower quality, but they shouldn't be too much lower, as it will be recording from your speaker output (another, more expensive/complicated [yet easier] method is to use TuneByte). Good luck.

sonicbox: The DRM used by Napster works only with PlaysForSure compatible players (what this tool is intended to remove). I personally use Urge, and there are two options: one that allows you to take the content with you on a portable player (for $15 a month) and the other which doesn't ($10 a month). Please remember though that this software is intended only for use on purchased media.

tdudetyler: The latest FU4WM is the version 1.3 fix, which is not compatible with your version of Windows Media Player (and it seems that there are issues with MilOtis' rollback on Vista). Sorry, I guess you're SOL. In any event, most, if not all, of the sites that offered FU4WM for download have been taken down. Sorry...

[tdudetyler]

Selayan: burning drm'd tracks to a cd and ripping them is not nearly as easy as it sounds. WMP has a built-in mechanism to prevent just that, but I recommend you use Audacity to unencrypt your tracks (link (http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1302.0)). They will be of a lower quality, but they shouldn't be too much lower, as it will be recording from your speaker output (another, more expensive/complicated [yet easier] method is to use TuneByte). Good luck.

sonicbox: The DRM used by Napster works only with PlaysForSure compatible players (what this tool is intended to remove). I personally use Urge, and there are two options: one that allows you to take the content with you on a portable player (for $15 a month) and the other which doesn't ($10 a month). Please remember though that this software is intended only for use on purchased media.

tdudetyler: The latest FU4WM is the version 1.3 fix, which is not compatible with your version of Windows Media Player (and it seems that there are issues with MilOtis' rollback on Vista). Sorry, I guess you're SOL. In any event, most, if not all, of the sites that offered FU4WM for download have been taken down. Sorry...

whens the next one that will be compatible coming out?

[torqueywrench]

can someone post a link for v1.3 and the 1.3fix, cause i uninstalled wmp 11 and installed back to 10...thnx

[blutach]

@torquewrencg - please use search; this board has a powerful search function, use it.

@tdudetytler - your crystal ball is as good as anyone elses's. This is unanswerable except by the author.

Regards

[culprit]

Could someone please address the issue of removing DRM from DVR-MS files recorded thru Media Center? It is ridiculous that I cant view these videos on any other computer.

Thanks,
Rob

[blutach]

@culprit - please do not make such requests. What people offer is there. If an author has invited feature requests well and good. But, this goes too far.

Asking for help on how to do something is fine. Asking someone (anyone) to somehow address a problem of yours is not.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121780

Regards

[TheGreatDave]

Hi guys. I have a few protected files that I'm able to access on a couple of PCs. I can use FairUse on my girlfriends PC because she hasn't upgraded to WMP11, but I've got Vista so I'm kinda screwed. Is there any way to get key information from one PC to carry across to another with the FairUse program, so I can read the key on one PC and use it on another? It sounds unlikely, but I just thought I'd ask :)

[Selayan]

Thanks mysekurity, for the link to audacity. Im trying it now. My roommate says that if you can find the virtual B drive on your pc, you can make an image and place the songs on there then rip them..still havent the time for that.

[kobak8]

selayan read your private messages

[culprit]

@culprit - please do not make such requests. What people offer is there. If an author has invited feature requests well and good. But, this goes too far.

Asking for help on how to do something is fine. Asking someone (anyone) to somehow address a problem of yours is not.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121780

Regards
Blutach,
I apologize if my question is inappropriate; I just thought someone could tell me how to remove DRM from my DVR-MS files. Earlier someone had told me that you could convert the DVR-MS file to a WMV file first using Digital Media Converter but all the converters I tried including this one locked up after a few seconds; I would assume due to the DRM'ing. It just seemed that this might be possible already with the software and that someone could tell me how; your post was actually the first time I was told that the software could in no way do this.

Sincerely,
Rob

[TehMark]

eek, hasn't this proggy been broke since September?

[unknownsoldierX]

eek, hasn't this proggy been broke since September?

It is still possible to use it if you have WMP 10. I have all the updates installed (10.00.00.4040) and my Indivbox.key is version 11.0.0.4321.

[mysekurity]

Blutach,
I just thought someone could tell me how to remove DRM from my DVR-MS files.


Try dCut (http://www.cnet.com.au/downloads/0,239030384,10444364s,00.htm) (or look over David Caulton's [of the Zune team] previous posts (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Azuneguy.com+dvr). He frequently discusses ways to convert your dvr files.)

Good luck!

[resource]

Steve Jobs just announced that he wants all DRM to end
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

And Bill Gates announced a few months ago that consumers are better off the CDs because DRM is too cumbersome.

This means Viodentia needs to come back and make FairUse4WM 1.4. to fix all these new IBX numbers.

With this new Wal-Mart store we need a way to strip DRM off of purchased movies and move video around.

[blutach]

He'll come back in his own good time.

Please observe the instructions in this sticky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121780).

Regards

[KoD]

What I see from that "Steve Jobs just announced that he wants all DRM to end" article is that Apple had enough of the big music producers imposing the rules and having the upper hand. Just like that article says, Apple has to provide those companies both the tech specs of their drm system and the guarantee that in case the system is compromised they will patch it up quickly or face immediate withdrawal of rights to sell that copyrighted material (and I also imagine they'd have to give "compensation" to the music companies as well).

So, the music sellers have the tech secrets that they can reveal to someone else and make Apple pay for "drm system breach" and also the right to withdraw their copyrighted material from sales if Apple does not comply. No wonder Apple doesn't like it. This is like selling yourself as a slave and keep your mouth shut hoping that your work as a slave for the rich master will earn you so much that it would compensate while your master can cut your head off anytime he pleases. But now that the music companies are facing troubles with low sales of CDs while iTunes on-line service is successful, Apple is planning on rebelling against their masters, or at least using this opportunity to negotiate better terms.

You can also see they approach this problem in a round-about manner: "Much of the concern over DRM systems has arisen in European countries. Perhaps those unhappy with the current situation should redirect their energies towards persuading the music companies to sell their music DRM-free". In other words: "you are asking us to remove DRM ? (see the recent Norwegian court decision), then force those companies to remove DRM". A nice method to threaten the music companies, isn't it ? It's not us (Apple) that asks you this, the EU legislators will impose this on you !

Apple is not happy to give up on DRM one inch... they know that if this happens, their sales will go down as well. What they would probably like is for such music giants to intensify their lobbying efforts and make the EU adopt stricter copyright laws. Let the music companies and the EU law makers battle themselves, and with a bit of luck (lots of grease money), the law will bend.

Who thinks this is done out of sympathy for the poor end consumer is a naive chump.

[tillerman]

Hard to believe DRM will go away any time soon. In Googling for fu4wm 1.4, I've come across several "membership" sites that list it as downloadable. BS or not? No one here has mentioned any of them, so I'm assuming BS. Anyone know for sure?

[Danj]

Hard to believe DRM will go away any time soon. In Googling for fu4wm 1.4, I've come across several "membership" sites that list it as downloadable. BS or not? No one here has mentioned any of them, so I'm assuming BS. Anyone know for sure?

They are most likely full of spyware or viruses. I am sure that if there was a real 1.4 it would have been posted on here by someone or other. To be honest I wouldn't have thought anything is likely happen on the fu4wm development front until the lawsuit against viodentia runs out of steam, and with the US legal system being what it is that could be a long long time. Unless some other programmer is able to pick up from where vio left off of course.

[schil]

Has anyone used WMAConvert (http://www.wma-convert.com) ? They claim it will convert DRM protected WMA files to MP3.

[sonicbox]

schil, please stop the spam. Thanks.

[schil]

Chill dude. I am a huge FU fan and used 31fix until I killed it by updating my system. I have not used WMA Convert yet, just looking for alternatives.

[tastyratz]

so ive been using fairuse4wm on my napster files with fairuse commander so I can burn them to cd and listen to them on my wma cd player in my car. When I try to rip off the drm some of the files are giving errors saying that they dont appear to be licensed to me. I have wmp11 beta and they play in there fine. I AM licensed to these songs, any idea why it wont convert certain ones?

[Deihmos]

You obviously did not buy the music. If you want to burn it to a cd purchase it and it will burn to a cd. I thought this forum did not promote piracy?

[blutach]

We don't. Posters would do well to read rule 6.

Plus there's a big difference in having a license to play and owning the material.

Regards

[tastyratz]

Who said anything about piracy?
I have napster, and pay for the service. I have for months. the DRM is killing me because my cars cd player is old and doesnt support drm.
How is that different from people using this to listen to music in their ipod?
I have a cd player in my car that can play mp3/wma cds. Instead of burning 10 cds, I want to burn just a few cds full of wma files (as in not like a regular cd) to bring the music with me and listen to it in my car.

[4Dude]

The problem these companies see is:

If it can be gotton around,IT WILL BE ABUSED TO RIP THEM OFF!!!! (Thats what they dont want)

It does make it EXTREMLY HARD for an innocent person to do what they would like with thier media,but they are looking at the bottom line.....So if your CD player doesnt support DRM,you need to use a sound recorder and make a basic copy,then transfer it to CD... (Which should play fine)

Good luck!

[tastyratz]

oh absolutely, I realize the purpose of drm, as well as what the "big four" thinks of people who use fairuse. Im sure they would prefer i purchased a copy for my home cd player, a copy for my car, and pay to download a copy for my computer. Maybe even just send them the money for nothing in return but the blessings of the kind souls who run the place.

I realize there are other ways to copy media, such as sound recorders (aka tunebyte, etc.) ....
however re-recording media in an analog fashion results in a loss of quality... Ive done it, Ive heard it. It sounds damn close I know... however to do that you have to make sure you pick a higher bitrate than it was recorded in to maintain alot of the original information. This results in larger files that sound worse. Otherwhise I would have turned these all into mp3's a long time ago.

My issue is directly with the use of fairuse4wm

[4Dude]

Ah i see.........

I understand i guess :)

Ya see all peoples dishonesty over the years has made it HARD for people that just wanna make copies for themselves and NOT make a profit,etc...

:(

[pplsfrntofjudea]

Ok, so i have been using fairuse succesfully for a while now, great program by the way, and I have been seeing posts about "FairUse 4WM Commander" and going through this thread I couldn't find a place to download it... I'm not sure if it has been removed, or I'm just missing it completely. If anyone could point me in the right direction, your help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)

[sonicbox]

tastyratz, no car CD player "supports DRM" -- old or new. Sorry, but your Napster content doesn't allow what you want to do. Since you "pay for the service" and have been doing it for "months", I must assume you are using the subscription service.

Invest in a portable MP3 player from Sandisk, Creative Labs, iRiver, etc. (all subscription service compatible) and use it in your car. It's more convenient than Audio CDs and files on a Data CD. I can't even imagine using a CD player anymore. (Regretably... If you don't have an AUX jack or equiv., a cassette adapter or FM trasmitter is the only option until you upgrade your car deck.)

4dude, if you purchase content from any of the services there is no need to "use a sound recorder and make a basic copy,then transfer it to CD.." -- you can burn audio CDs directly. (FYI: I agree DRM is stupid for purchased content. Why do it, when you can burn a DRM-free Audio CD with it?)

[tastyratz]

sonic: That doesnt really help me. I know I can go out and buy something thats drm compatible. I dont want to pay alot of money I dont have, for a device I dont want to fiddle with in the car and get into an accident rigging it to work. My cd player works great, and thats how I intend to use it.

If I wanted to go spend more money to do the same task I would do it and wouldnt be here asking the question I did...I mean I dont wanna come off like a jerk but its not helpful to my question.

[blutach]

@tastyratz - I am not sure what level of service you have paid for - but it is clear that you do own own the music. Sonicbox's comment is pertinent - if you owned the music, you could burn it easily.

The subscription service is DRM'ed for a reason - you don't own the content. You simply may download it and play it on your PC (see their FAQ).

As such, removing DRM from the subscription content is against rule 6.

Let's stop it here, please.

Regards

[rdn98]

Here you go guys, a yousendit.com link.

http://download.yousendit.com/2182F97547B7D3A2

****
Blutach, you never cease to amaze me at your forum browsing abilities. It seems that everyday now you have to constantly remind people of forum board rules, in particular number 6 a lot of times...lol.

I'd probably go out of my mind if I have to do this all the time, for almost every thread here. :) Keep up the good work.

[blutach]

Appreciate the nice words rdn98 :)

Regards

[4Dude]

4dude, if you purchase content from any of the services there is no need to "use a sound recorder and make a basic copy,then transfer it to CD.." -- you can burn audio CDs directly. (FYI: I agree DRM is stupid for purchased content. Why do it, when you can burn a DRM-free Audio CD with it?)I agree i guess my friend........

[molitar]

One question is their any DRM updates I need to avoid for this version besides not updating to MediaPlayer 11?

[rakesh]

Hi. Its been such a long time since we heard anything from Viodenta. I hope that great man is safe. I have an amazing problem which I am not been able to solve through any measures.
I downloaded a licensed wmv video from a subscribed website. I am using WMP10 and applied all the security patches. Now whenever I give it the username and password to install the license on my system, it gives an 'Internet Explorer Script Error', which says that a script error has occured and I should contact Microsoft support to solve the issue. I have upgraded my hardware and before the upgrade everything was working just fine with the licensed DRM stuff. Now this script error pops up every time the license installs itself and it never lets me PLAY the file at all.
Can someone tell me what sort of componant I am missing? Is it a common fault. Also, I ran WMP11 to solve the issue but the same happend in it so I rolled back. I have installed all the required updates to solve the said matter but to no avail. That Script error comes again and again and I am really frustrated.
Can someone please help me to solve the issue.
Thanks
Rakesh

[Winse]

Here you go guys, a yousendit.com link.

http://download.yousendit.com/2182F97547B7D3A2

****
Blutach, you never cease to amaze me at your forum browsing abilities. It seems that everyday now you have to constantly remind people of forum board rules, in particular number 6 a lot of times...lol.

I'd probably go out of my mind if I have to do this all the time, for almost every thread here. :) Keep up the good work.

First time poster, long time form reader. I never had to ask for any questions due to the amount of questions people flood you with. Just need to browse a little and read. Any how, I downloaded the 1.3fix and I got a different error and I thought I would like to share it and see if someone could come up with a reason or a fix.

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Good Luck and Thanks.

[omjeremy]

Read further in this thread for your answer. There must have been 10 people who've had this problem and posted here.

[Winse]

Read further in this thread for your answer. There must have been 10 people who've had this problem and posted here.

I will do so again, I might of skimmed over it in the past.

[JiiSune]

I can get 1.3fix to work just fine, no problems. Then I can play the file back. But if I close the file it asks for a license again. Also, if I try to undrm the file again I'm told:

[NoDRM]-SongTitle.mp3 already exists.

But.. there is no such file in my folder. Does 1.3fix save the files someplace else or am I losing my mind? I just want to continue to playback the file.

Thank you

[setarip_old]

@JiiSune

Hi![NoDRM]-SongTitle.mp3Just perform a search of your hard drive for this title...

[JiiSune]

I did, searched all my drives and got nothing. Very strange! Does anyone else here use FairUse4WM and know where the files are saved?

[Winse]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=936550#post936550

I cant find the download rollback fix.

[rdn98]

I did, searched all my drives and got nothing. Very strange! Does anyone else here use FairUse4WM and know where the files are saved?

Greetings. When you use the fairuse program, there is a screen where it asks you where you want to deposit your drm free music. Actually, its more like a dropdown box.

For me, I just tell the program to save the NODRM music files in the same directory as the DRM file. Afterwards, I just go into the respective directory and erase the original files and keep the NODRM file.

I hope that helps.

[pplsfrntofjudea]

Hello, I have yet to locate the "FairUse 4WM Commander"

I have FairUse 4WM and I greatly enjoy it, however in some of the much earlier posts there are mentions of, and if I'm not mistaken even a screen shot of it in action... If anyone knows about this "Commander" and where to find it, I would appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance!!

[petrus2]

Hello, I have yet to locate the "FairUse 4WM Commander"

I have FairUse 4WM and I greatly enjoy it, however in some of the much earlier posts there are mentions of, and if I'm not mistaken even a screen shot of it in action... If anyone knows about this "Commander" and where to find it, I would appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance!!

You will find a link to the download in the following post:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=913737#post913737

[blutach]

@pplsfrntofjudea

The board has an excellent search function which you should acquaint yourself with.

Regards

[JiiSune]

Greetings. When you use the fairuse program, there is a screen where it asks you where you want to deposit your drm free music. Actually, its more like a dropdown box.

For me, I just tell the program to save the NODRM music files in the same directory as the DRM file. Afterwards, I just go into the respective directory and erase the original files and keep the NODRM file.

I hope that helps.

I get no such screen unfortunately. Do you receive this all the time or only the first time you load up the application? Do you also get this screen with the 1.3fix version? I'm using that with WMP11 Beta 2.

Thank you very much for replying!

[pplsfrntofjudea]

@petrus2

Thank you so much, I really had tried to find it before asking for help, and i thought i was going crazy ;)

@Blutach

I am aware of the search feature and I had tried it with no results and all I was able to come up with was a few instances that it was mentioned... with no explanation as to where or how to get it. But thx anyways

[petrus2]

@petrus2

Thank you so much, I really had tried to find it before asking for help, and i thought i was going crazy ;)

@Blutach

I am aware of the search feature and I had tried it with no results and all I was able to come up with was a few instances that it was mentioned... with no explanation as to where or how to get it. But thx anyways

pplsfrntofjudea, Like You, I did not download the Commander when I first saw the link posted, then later I tried to search for it using the search function here but to no avail. I had to go back message by message to locate it. It appears that the reason we could not find it using the search function here is that the word "commander" does not appear in the particular post that contains the download link. The url for the download does contain the word, but the link is truncated on the post and therefore a search will not find it.

The Commander is great! Thanks to users UserMan and VivaFairUse4WM for Your efforts in creating and updating it!!!

[pplsfrntofjudea]

petrus2, It seem we were in a very similar predicament, however i really didn't have to time to go message by message (school). Thank you again for your help.

And, Yes the commander is pretty handy. I second that thanks to UserMan & VivaFairUse4WM. :)

[JiiSune]

Haha, I found the folder! Just had to find the 1.3 version non-fix and I saw the default save directory. Thank you again for the reply rdn98, very big help! Thanks!

[setarip_old]

@JiiSune[NoDRM]-SongTitle.mp3
Just perform a search of your hard drive for this title...Can you explain why this didn't work for you?

[ratmaster9]

I thought I would start up a dedicated support area for FairUse4WM on my site with what I have found to be a solution to get FairUse4WM working properly. Please help me out with the instructions and notify me if there is anything else that should be included, such as notices, ect...

I've speant a lot of time figuring this out and typing up those instructions, so do not post them anywhere else.

Please take a look http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm. Click on Instructions if you want to know how to get it working. If it doesn't work, I'll try to help you get it working in the support forum, but I think this should work for everyone. Enjoy :)

[ratmaster9]

I have updated the instructions again, just a bit, mainly to add pictures to the instructions to clarify some stuff.

If this works for you, please post so, if not, please post that it doesn't. I'm just curious as to what I have to do if it doesn't work and how many people it does work for :)

[blutach]

@ratmaster9 - there is no need to post "ads" for your forum. A single post is enough. Please see rule 12. As well, we are not a front end collector for members of your forum.

Regards

[ratmaster9]

Sorry... I meant for people to post in here if it works or not... I just need to know what I need to change so it works for everyone...

[StranjAngel]

OH yea I'm new. hehe Ok so here's my error when I use FairUse4WM "...does not appear to be licensed to you" These are the files I downloaded from Zune Marketplace. I think I read somewhere I can't remove the DRM from Zune files. How will I ever back them up?

[rdn98]

OH yea I'm new. hehe Ok so here's my error when I use FairUse4WM "...does not appear to be licensed to you" These are the files I downloaded from Zune Marketplace. I think I read somewhere I can't remove the DRM from Zune files. How will I ever back them up?

From what I understand, you can't really right now. There is no viable way that I know of.

[sonicbox]

From what I understand, you can't really right now. There is no viable way that I know of.For now, just burn the purchased tracks to Audio CD. Now you have a physical (unprotected) backup of the audio content.

You can also re-download any purchased song anytime you want (unlike iTunes' Music Store), so there probably isn't much of a need to "backup."

[ratmaster9]

I know what you are refering to, as I myself have a Zune. I purchased a few songs, only to find it was pointless.

The problem with the Zune software, is that it runs a program in the background as soon as the computer boots. You can disable it and delete the drm folder if you move fast enough, but when you open up the Zune software, it reinstalls the latest IBX... it was a pain to figure out that that was causing the problem with my IBX version...

I would recommend you find another service provider... as because Zune is a Microsoft Product, it will always be updated as it is their "example."

[TuffWoD]

Is there any way to make the WMP 11 Upgrade box to stop popping up? It seems like the frequency of pop ups has increased

[omjeremy]

It's interesting... I recently decided to upgrade to WMP 11 because I was having some difficulties with the version of WMP I had. Strange enough, it upgraded to version 11.0.5721.5145. So FairUse4WM still works. I upgraded with the downloadable from Microsoft's website.

[ratmaster9]

Microsft has begun to crack down on this and is trying every way to make it no longer work. They found my site about 8 hours after I released my instructions, and they had it shut down completly until I reuploaded everything minus the infringing files...

I think they are trying to get people to upgrade just out of annoyance...

I updated the download links to get the files on my site if anyone is wondering... I will try to always keep an up to date link in there so everyone can enjoy :)

Downloads Page (http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=downloads)

[Quince]

I have a wmv file with some kind of DRM I'm not used to: every time I try to play it, WMP 11 says a license needs to be acquired, then I click OK and a "Media usage rights acquisition" dialog pops up, loading some webpage. Once the page loads, the Play button becomes enabled and the file plays normally. However, it makes me do this EVERY time I try to play the file... WTF? That file is important to me and I don't want to rely for playing it on the availability of some website that may go offline at any time. I can't even read the goddamn site as it's in Chinese, but I'd gladly pay for an un-DRMed version of this video. So, how do I deal with this?

[blutach]

Quince - do you own this media file? If not, you are in violation of rule 6. Please take some time to read it.

Regards

[Quince]

Of course I own it. Did you even read the description in my post? I have permission to play it. The problem is that it wants to connect to that site every time I play it, though after that it plays fine -- no restrictions. Indeed, the DRM was tacked on by someone distributing the file which originally was not DRMed (because the main video is in English with Americans in it, with some Chinese advertisement junk added to the beginning of the video, same as the website it connects to to get a licence). But sine I've not tracked down the original, I'm stuck with this version modified by some tool trying to get more website hits.

[Blind Melon]

I just purchased a song from Napster, and I cannot get the file to be unprotected. I've tried using the "recover keys" in FairUse, but the program doesn't show up any keys... then I actually hit the "recover keys" button and it says "click start to begin", so I do and I get this error "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." What does this mean? Does this mean I cannot undrm the file?

[Danj]

I get this error "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." What does this mean? Does this mean I cannot undrm the file?

Yes, that is exactly what it means.

[blutach]

Quince - permission to play and ownership are 2 different things. Plus you can lose the attitude. Sorry to hear you now have a file that has DRM. If you search, you'll find WMP11 is not the easiest to UnDRM from.

Regards

[bond008]

I have purchased wmv restricted files that required license, which I entered and they started running fine. However, when I tried to UnDRM them using the FairUse4WM program, I did not have much luck. The steps I followed are:

1. I Installed FairUse4WM 1.3 without any problems.
2. I opened FairUse4WM and clicked the “Recover Key” button (It says 0 Keys loaded”
3. I got the DrmClien.DLL has version 9.0. etc message, and when I pressed okay it went back to the first dialog box which says 0 keys loaded, and the only the Cancel button was still enabled (Exactlythe same window as in step 2).

As you can tell I am using WM 9, which should be okay. Moreover, my computer is running under Windows XP.


Next, upon getting help from an expert, I tried to individualize the windows player, and tried again. But now:

1. When pressing the Recover Key button, I got the following ,message: "Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys.....DrmClien.DLL has version 9.0.0.3250. Upon pressing Ok, I get
2. Preparing to launch Media Player ... Indivbox.key has version 10.0.0.3646.... When I press the OK button, I get
3. "Windows Error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store".

It asks me to retry/cancel, but if I retry I go back to step 1 again.


I also got the following advise from the expert:
"Note that some WM installations will have multiple ECC key-pairs, so you will likely have to "Extract Keys" using multiple licensed files. If you find a file that doesn't convert, try extracting keys wth it. Once your whole set of keys is extracted, you will no longer need to run WM per file"
Some media files (wma/wmv) have a same KID and use a same SID. For example :

<KID>September Video</KID>
<SID>xxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyy</SID>

Above key pair valid for all media you download for september video.(just an example)

But maybe provider change/update the SID for another files that use the same KID, but with different SID as below

<KID>September Video</KID>
<SID>yyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzz</SID>

To solve the problem, try to recover key again and convert the file ALONE not multiple or batch. Indeed, I have several files (about 100) that are proteected under the same license key.

So Itried to perform the following steps on a single file:

- Set Windows Media player (WMP) to prompt on license acquisition
- Open the file, and let WMP acquire the license
- Do NOT click "Play", leave the WMP license window open
- While the window is open, use FairUse4WM on the file

but I got the messages I detailed earlier ("Windows error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store").


So my question is WHAT ARE THE STEPS AND HOW TO EXTRACT THE KEYS??? When I only have one key!!!

[Danj]

As you can tell I am using WM 9, which should be okay. Moreover, my computer is running under Windows XP.

Easiest thing to do would be to update to Windows Media Player 10 (NOT 11). Do not reindividualize any further, if you do then you will receive an IBX version that is not compatible with FU4WM. You can download Windows Media Player 10 from Microsoft's web site here (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/A/12A31F29-2FA9-4F50-B95D-E45EF7013F87/MP10Setup.exe).

[Quince]

I don't mind going back to WMP11 beta, or whatever older version I need. My question is, I don't know the procedure for that type of DRM. FairUse4WM says that "At least one file with an active license is necessary." I don't even know what that means. Is a file that every time checks for a license when it's played and then loses it one with an active license or not? How do I do it in this case? If it retreives a license every time it's played, I'm assuming it goes away every time I close WMP. Then how can FairUse4WM extract it then if WMP is not still playing the file (yet it says WMP must be closed)?

[Farwando]

Im running windows vista x64 ultimate, using WMP11

Installed FairUse4Wm just fine but when i click on it it asks me to recover keys, i click on "recover keys" and it says that
"IBX components do not appear to be present." Then i click OK. Right after that, another thing pops up saying "FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed Dll to determine system specific information. No drmclien.dll found in path." I click ok again and another window opens saying " unhandled situation -25100 while Getting DRMv1 Private Key."

I dont know much about computers so any help would be much appreciated.

[bond008]

Easiest thing to do would be to update to Windows Media Player 10 (NOT 11). Do not reindividualize any further, if you do then you will receive an IBX version that is not compatible with FU4WM. You can download Windows Media Player 10 from Microsoft's web site here (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/A/12A31F29-2FA9-4F50-B95D-E45EF7013F87/MP10Setup.exe).

Thanks DanJ. I followed your advice, but WMP 10 when runs gives the following message:
"A security update is required to play this file. Do you want to download this upgrade?"

To which I replied NO. But then I got the following message from FU4WM
"Unhandled situation -9008 while Creating Windows Media instance"
What to do next?

[omjeremy]

Vista is not supported with FairUse4WM. That's the major reason why I haven't upgraded yet.

[Quince]

Anyone?

[blutach]

Quince - please do not bump your posts.

Strike issued.

Regards

[mmtux]

Hello!
Sorry for my English, its not the best but i try to write as well...

a few days ago fu2wm 1.3 fix worked without any problems for me (windows xp, windows media player 11 final). but since i changed my napster account i get the following message, when the programm try to load the new keys:
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Fu4wm also dont crack the wma-files anymore.

I dont know why it isnt working now - it was working ok with the new media player 11 before. I hope you can help me :)

Thanks!

[Danj]

since i changed my napster account

it was working ok with the new media player 11 before.

When you've changed your Napster account it has upgraded your IBX (IndivBox.key) to a version that doesn't work with FairUse4WM.

[mmtux]

Ok thanks for your answer.

Is there any possibility to downgrade my IBX? Maybe to re-install the media player 10?

Thanks!

[piotr67]

I made some improvements to UserMan's source code for his C# app. Mainly it will save your path settings, it will batch up calls to FairUse so it will call it 1 time for X files (in some cases it may have to make multiple calls to FairUse), allows you to specify a seperate output path, allows you to delete the original files (assuming you use the seperate output path), and has the option to keep or remove the NoDRM prefix.

Use at your own risk, if you find any issues (I'm sure there are some) post repro steps and if I get time I will try and fix them. Thanks again to UserMan for his source code, I would have never gotten around to doing this if it wasn't for his code to get it started.

Download link:
http://s6.quicksharing.com/v/6981175/FU4WMCommander.zip.html


What fairusecommander is intented to do exactly.I've downloaded it but it couldn't initialized!! it doesn't work!

[diablo2121]

Does anyone happen to have a working link for the WMP 11.0.5705.5043 DRM downgrade fix?

[omjeremy]

Try this: http://www.yousendit.com/download/eURDRm8zTkFVVGw1VEE9PQ

It expires tomorrow.

[Winse]

Can anyone reupload the 1.3fix? I had it than deleted it after I couldnt get it to work. I lost hope on down grading until this last post.
*Crosses Fingers*

[ratmaster9]

Try checking out my instructions... they have worked for everyone who meets the requirements so far... If you follow the instructions exactly as they are written, you can get fairuse4wm working perfectly fine :)

http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm

Click on Instructions

There is also the download for fairuse 1.3 fix on the site... just click on the downloads link in the navigation bar.

As for the person wondering about the Windows Media Player 11 downgrade fix.. I post how to get the downgrade working, but it depends on what version you are downgrading to... Just check out the instructions...

[Winse]

Ratmaster,
You say you have ver 1.3fix but on your download section. I looked and you have 1.3v instead.

[shookie]

----------------- Roll Back procedures (Windows Media Player 11 Final): -----------------

Step 1:

In Add/Remove Programs:

- Uninstall "Windows Media Player 11"
- - Restart Machine

- Uninstall "Windows Media Player 11 Run Time"
- - Restart Machine

- Uninstall "MS User-Mode Driver Framework Feature Pack 1.0 ..."
- - Restart Machine (Note: May warn that programs will not work. Disregard it.)

Step 2:

- Install Windows Media Player 11 (ver. 11.0.5705.5043)
- Run it and do the first time run setup screens. Don't forget to install URGE.
- Close the application

Step 3:

- Navigate to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM"
- - Remove all files located in this directory. Try to avoid removing "Cache" sub directory itself.
Just open the Cache sub-directory and remove its content.

Step 4:

- Open Windows Media Player (IMPORTANT: DO NOT UPDATE WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER... EVER)
- - Press the "Alt" button and navigate to: Tools -> Options
- - Under the "Privacy Tab" uncheck: "Automatically check if protected files need to be refreshed"

[Winse]

Great help, I still do not have the fix.

[sonicbox]

shookie, your little "roll back procedure" basically tells people to violate the terms of the trial URGE subscription service. This is probably a violation of the rules here, and obviously against the spirit of fairuse4wm... this isn't content you "own."

[shookie]

sorry.. didn't want it to look like that..

just wrote step by step what i do to remove my licenses


i guess they can remove that. sorry.

[shookie]

shookie, your little "roll back procedure" basically tells people to violate the terms of the trial URGE subscription service. This is probably a violation of the rules here, and obviously against the spirit of fairuse4wm... this isn't content you "own."

edited my post.. that wasn't supposed to be there.

[Spinstorm]

Is there still no version that works on Vista?

Good thing I have a laptop with XP on it if there isnt!

Has anyone else noticed a drop in sound quality after removing the DRM? I am sure the WMA does not sound the same with it removed as it did before it was removed! Can anyone else hear what I am talking about?

[Danj]

Is there still no version that works on Vista?

No, and there isn't likely to be since Windows Media Player is a Protected Process under Vista and consequently would be much harder (although not impossible) to crack I imagine.

Has anyone else noticed a drop in sound quality after removing the DRM? I am sure the WMA does not sound the same with it removed as it did before it was removed! Can anyone else hear what I am talking about?

The only operation that is done on the file by FairUse4WM is the decryption, there is no re-encoding or lowering of bitrate unless you are using some program that converts your WMAs to MP3 or something like that. For example if you are unDRMing your WMAs then putting them on your iPod, yes there will be a drop in quality because iTunes automatically re-encodes them, since the iPod has no native WMA support.

[Spinstorm]

I swear I can hear a difference between the DRM WMA and the WMA with it removed!

Does anyone know a really good tool for ripping WMA to MP3 that works with very little sound quality loss?

[razor1]

i'm having the same trouble as most and i've done all the removing of windows 11 and i actually prefer wmp 10. I've also used several versions of fair use and i'm using the fu4wm13fix one.

I was wondering if it had to do with rhapsody. Cuz u suscribe to rhapsody and rhapsody 3.1 allows you to dl a wma without buying it like a lot of other programs...but you basically don't own it. Does that mean the drm remover won't work? Also, the whole C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe part of the rollback process didn't work cuz i didn't have that exe. Am i supposed to have it? Any help?

[razor1]

oh and spinstorm you should just use itunes. Just add the files to it and it gives you the option of converting your wma's into mp3.

[Stingrey]

Oh no, please don´t do that !!
Converting wma´s into mp3´s comes with a severe loss in quality.

If you have to convert it to mp3, than use foobar2000 and lame.

[mayan6174]

Here

Windows Media Player 11 Beta2
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=2FE835832369E0DC&key=d8c6992ef8c36d2561dcbc37a5df33b0fb6ad2fb

FairUse4WM Fix
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=04D97D7025AC776F&key=718a81cd8b882989e5c11a1bbbafe3b25b15eb2c

[petrus2]

Oh no, please don´t do that !!
Converting wma´s into mp3´s comes with a severe loss in quality.

If you have to convert it to mp3, than use foobar2000 and lame.

Are You (or anyone else) familiar with a program called SWITCH for converting audio files? I have used it to convert WMA's to MP3's with very good results.

**** March 8 2007 edit: I did not include a link to SWITCH in my original post. There is a free version of this software that converts WMA's to MP3's. I use it exclusively to convert my WMA's to MP3's. Here is the link:

http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

This is not an attempt to spam. I am not affiliated with the company in any way and there is a free version for download. It just seemed that maybe no one had heard of this software or had not tried it and I wanted to provide a link to share what I think is a great free conversion tool. ****

[tillerman]

FU4 has been working fine but today when I tried to open it, the screen display would not come up. The task manager tells me it's running in the "processes" window, but no luck. Anyone else with this glitch?

[mysekurity]

tillerman: you might want to restart your computer. If an application freezes up like that, it can usually be fixed by restarting.

[mysekurity]

Has anyone lost their ability to un-drm after installing Urge's Automix addon? I'm a bit skeptical, as it requires you to download a program and close WMP.... I do like the feature however, and I'm wondering if the two are related.

Does anyone know?

[tillerman]

mysekurity: that was the first thing I did. Even deleted and reinstalled FU4 from my original download on my backup drive. Still no luck. Any suggestions? This one's got me stumped.

[muzicmaken]

I keep getting this....

.wma requires a different private key.


It just started doing that this week...I did the rollback and still get this...

[DaForce]

Hey guys,

Very handy little app works like a charm.

Had to roll back to windows media player beta 2 tho to get it to work (obviously).

Problem I have now is that DRM WMV files, cause Media Player to freeze when they finish playing or if I press cancel on the aquired licence screen (before they start playing) which I do in order to get the licence for FairUse4WM as they are single run licence type files.
The un-DRM'd files seem to play fine, in windows media player and media player classic.
I dont recall this happening before I rolled back to beta2.
The only way to close WMP is to force quit the process in task manager.

Any ideas?

[blutach]

If they are single run licences, then it is saying you don't own the content - only a licence to play it once. Attempting to UnDRM such content is against rule 6.

Regards

[DaForce]

Well the content is playable multiple times, it just needs to retrieve the licence each time. Not "single run" as such. I just didnt know what else to call it.

I didnt think it would be a problem to mention as viodentia mentioned how to get around it and that it would most likely be included in the next release of fairuse4wm.. therefore surely its not against rule 6?
Or am I missing something.
See his comments here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=881126#post881126

[muzicmaken]

I'm still getting this.... any ideas why?

.wma requires a different private key.

I did the rollback and deleted the DRM folder as suggested...but still says private key...

[jermiahu]

I have been following this forum on an off since the beginning. It is so long now though and I have a very basic question that may or may not have been answered somewhere along the line, but I cannot find that answer with my current search thread ability. Here it is:

Now that a significant number of people are changing over to Vista or are buying machines that come preloaded with Vista, is FairUse4WM going to be updated to work with that OS and of course current versions os WMP11?

I have my made for Vista machine partitioned with a copy of WinXP JUST FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of being able to run FairUse4WM. As you can imagine this is less than ideal, especially for a laptop user.

Again if this specific issue has been previously addressed, answered, etc. I am sorry, but I am very interested in the possibility of the creators of this most EXCELLENT piece of groundbreaking software for downloadable music subscribers to USE their music when where and how they want to motivate themselves to sove the VISTA issue, because then this would truely be one of the most important pieces of code written in the 21st Century!!!!

Thanx for your patience.

Jeremy K.

[Danj]

motivate themselves to solve the VISTA issue

Right, because there's really going to be a new version of FairUse4WM while there's an ongoing lawsuit searching for viodentia. Mm-hm. The discovery period Microsoft were granted was like 120 days, and that was starting in what, October, November last year? So you've got at least that long to wait, and then there'll probably be some further delays after that while Microsoft attempt to stop their case from fizzling out completely, so I wouldn't expect a new version of FairUse4WM until at least 2008 - if ever.

[johnnyquid]

My motherboard is starting to flake out. If I load a new machine with windows xp sp2 and install windows media player 10 will fairuse4wm still work? I assume that I will need to reindividualize. I read that reindividualization will install the lastest IBX which will make fairuse4wm not work. I read ratmaster9 instructions say to reindividualize using the link http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite. Will this install a IBX which will not work with fairuse4wm at this time?

[rdn98]

I run vista, but I haven't tried fu4wm in there yet, although I do have a winxp partition anyway.

What happens when you try to run in vista? Does it give you an error message? What if you try running in xp compatibility mode?

I suggest if you don't want to have an xp parition, setup a virtual OS on your system under vista. MS PC 2007 is free and you can do it.

[mayan6174]

Here

Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 1.0

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=F9239DED09F8F2F6&key=b3e1865c73ab56f2ce45d8d724339e26d3ec0f0f

[The_Harbinger]

I have a number of WMA files purchased with DRM from a download service. I'm running RockBox on my iPod mini. I can load and play music I ripped myself just fine. With the un-DRMmed files, I may see the appropriate title information on-screen (or not), but the files will not play. They play fine in Media Player 10 and jetAudio.

Are the files corrupt in some way, and is there a way to repair them if so? Or, does the blame rest with RockBox?

[mysekurity]

@Harbinger:

Does Rockbox natively support wma's? I thought they either didn't, or did but spottily (as with other Free software, it's hard for them to work with wma). Have you tried to encode it to a different format, possibly mp3, aac, or ogg?

[sonicbox]

...but I am very interested in the possibility of the creators of this most EXCELLENT piece of groundbreaking software for downloadable music subscribers to USE their music when where and how they want toJermiahu, I know you are new, but please pay attention to the forum rules and what "fair use" really is. fairuse4wm is not a a tool intended for everyone to violate 'rental' subscription license & terms of service. You do not have the rights to keep subscription content and "use the music where and how you want to." fairuse4wm should only be used on content you have 'purchased'.

The_Harbinger, Rockbox doesn't support WMA "out of the box." However, someone did wedge in support using code from ffmpeg: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984 Not sure what the current state of it is, though...

[DepecheNYC]

Automate UnDRM 1.0 vs. FairUse4WM

I decrypted a single file using both programs. The output file of both programs have different filesize. Why is that? What's the difference? Is there any difference in quality between the two?

[bearshat]

Does anyone know the last version of Windows Media Player 11 that wm4fu1.3fixed will work on?

[omjeremy]

11 beta 2

[mysekurity]

@bearshat: it runs on wmp11 final (hence the need for the "fix" version) up to IBX 11.0.6 (if you have 11.0.6 or greater, you can't run it). omjeremy is saying that the only way to have FU4WM work with wmp11 now is to use beta 2. Only wmp11 final users who have been "grandfathered in" (installed before the update to 11.0.6, and haven't updated since) can still use the tool.

I don't have much experience with Automate UnDRM, but I know that FU4WM's converted filesizes are *exactly* the same (at least on the kilobyte level). I don't know why they wouldn't be smaller, however. Maybe it's to fool the flag?

[joshie10024]

I had a v. 1.1 of fairuse4WM and I loved it so when I saw the v.1.3 was available I thought i would upgrade. Unfortunately I can't seem to get it to work properly. I continue to get the error message "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." when I try to retrieve new keys for my music. The message on the next scree says, "Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys. FairUse4WM will use a WM-installed DLL to determine system specific information. 'DrmCline.DLL' has version 10.0.0.3646" Pleas if anyone can help i would appreciate it greatly as I have tons of music waiting to go on my iPod.

[milomannn]

Looking for site in order to download FairUse4WM1.3fix. Had my computer seriously crash last month and now I am pretty wary of downloading programs from unfamiliar sources or that use .rar file compression. Can anyone recommend a source for the program they have tried and found to be virus free?
Thanks.

[Danj]

I continue to get the error message "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet."

Sorry but this means your iPod won't be seeing any songs any time soon because your Individualized Black Box DLL (IndivBox.key, the file that does all the DRM "donkey work") has been automatically updated by your music service to a version that's newer than FairUse4WM 1.3 can handle.

Just to sum up:
"IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet."
means
"IT WILL NOT WORK".

Some people have been able to "roll back" their Windows Media Player installations, with varied results, but any rollback procedure will destroy any existing licenses for downloaded music that you may have, so your music provider would have to allow redownloads.

[milOtis]

The URGE music service does not autoupdate, nor does it force IBX updates...you can still download files today and play them, strip them with FairUse4WM provided you followed the fix I posted 3 months ago...guess what....? IT STILL WORKS

But you have to use URGE + FairUse 4WM...even 1.2 works if you have 11 beta 2. I can't speak for other download services like Rhapsody, Yahoo, Sonic, or Napster...I just know this works, so why not use it? URGE has pretty much everything.

::: milOtis

[rdn98]

Yup, Urge is nice, but paying each month becomes a hassle.

I've just started using Ruckus networks, its free legit music for college kids and the like. It has helped me explore new genres of music and entice me into buying things I would probably never heard before.

[zunefun]

can sum one just give the link to download this again with the fix included in it as well?

[rdn98]

Ask and you shall receive:

http://download.yousendit.com/7AE6291D5F9FF7D6

[zunefun]

thanks now that will work all i do is download it and set the program up and thats it? ill try it after i get off work and if that works ..i owe you a million...thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ill let you guys know when i get it up and running !!!!!!!!!