[dvd-rb Pro 1.10.3]: a strange error message into rebuilder.log

[danpos]

@jdobbs

When I start the new DVD-RB PRO 1.10.3 (which I did a fresh install), I got the following message into rebuilder.log (placed on C:\ root drive):

- Invalid path in INI file: "C:\Arquivos de programas\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ffmpeg\ffmpeg.exe"

but RB didn't install ffmpeg.exe either.:eek:

JFYI. :)

Regards,

[jdobbs]

I left some test code (actually a flag) in accidentally (from the iPod module I'm working). I fixed it and uploaded it shortly after the mailing started -- but you must have been one of the handful that downloaded it before that. Anyone downloading after 7:00pm EDT will get the correct file(s).

It won't hurt anything if you continue to use that version... but if you download from the link again the message (and file) will be gone.

Sorry. And here I was hoping nobody would notice... :o

[SAPSTAR]

Sorry. And here I was hoping nobody would notice... :o
I did the same mistake today!!! :D

[danpos]

@jdobbs

Dont' worry, jdobbs! This sort of thing happens with any developer and seems that I'm a kinda "bug's hunter" (even when I'm not 'hunting' anything :D ).

Thanks for yours time and efforts to deliver for us this great software.

Regards,

[rendez2k]

Hmmmm... iPod module? Could you tell us more, or is it top secret :D

[jdobbs]

No secret. I'm just adding the ability to output to other formats, the iPod being the main reason.

[SAPSTAR]

No secret. I'm just adding the ability to output to other formats, the iPod being the main reason.
Do you plan PSP also?! :D I have a PSP! ;)

[jdobbs]

Yeah. Actually you can set the parameters to pretty much anything you want. I'll look up the specifications for PSP video and create some presets for it as well.

[foxace]

Do you plan PSP also?! :D I have a PSP! ;)
I was going to say it :goodpost:

[danpos]

@jdobbs

I did start a session with RB and AQE to backup "The History of Violence” - (2005)" (R4) and for testing purposes I did choose the OPV mode instead of multipass VBR; but AQE is doing the encoding of segments in multipass mode!! :eek:

It follows the relevant files:

1. rebuilder.ini:


[Options]
Mode=6
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=1
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
Skin=Rockas Original
AudioDub=0
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=6
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=MARCAS_DA_VIOLENCIA
DVD_Name=MARCAS_DA_VIOLENCIA.ISO
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=0101111111
Convert_16_9=0000000000
DisableInterlace=0000000000
ConvertToYUY2=0
AutoQMatAQM=1
Encode_Menus=1
NewEditor=0
HalfD1Extras=1
DECOMBFlag=1
ISO_Output=1
ISO_Delete_Option=0
Decrypter_Write=0
Delete_Image_Option=0
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Arquivos de programas\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Arquivos de programas\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ReJig\ReJig.exe
HC=C:\Arquivos de programas\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\HC Encoder\HCbatch.EXE
ProCoder=C:\Arquivos de programas\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\EclPro\EclPro.exe
DECOMB=C:\Arquivos de programas\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Arquivos de programas\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=C:\RB_PRO\
Output=D:\Working Directories\DVD-RB_OutputFolder\
Source=D:\DVD_RIPS\MARCAS_DA_VIOLENCIA\VIDEO_TS\
[Audio]
Selected=
Remapping=
[Subpictures]
Selected=
[AutoQMatOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3
OPV=1

2. rebuilder.log (partial, it's running for now):

[17:08:21] One Click encoding activated...
-----------------
[17:08:22] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.10.3
- AutoQMatEnc selected.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode (10%) is enabled.
- VTSM_01: 192.988 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 15.155 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_01: 8.074 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 574 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 2.153.220 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 137.640 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 1.052.809 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 119.190 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 59.161 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 3.994 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 111.443 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 12.740 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 66.421 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 4.155 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_08: 52.808 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 4.418 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_09: 40.211 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 3.985 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_10: 44.848 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 4.448 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 53,7%
- Overall Bitrate : 2.912/2.330Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.633.452KB
- Analyzing VTS_01 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):3.810
-- Sampling 12 of 574 frames.
- Q Value selected: 10
- Analyzing VTS_02 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):1.077.772
-- Sampling 2760 of 137640 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=33: 1.764.343
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=62: 854.689
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=42: 1.454.493
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=63: 831.140
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=40: 1.515.354
- Q Value selected: 62
- Analyzing VTS_03 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):487.677
-- Sampling 2388 of 119190 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=63: 292.364
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=23: 729.760
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=38: 570.873
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=47: 382.761
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=32: 584.154
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=40: 486.122
- Q Value selected: 40
- Analyzing VTS_04 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):27.859
-- Sampling 84 of 3994 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=37: 4.673
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=1: 2.391
- Q Value selected: 1
- Analyzing VTS_05 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):51.603
-- Sampling 264 of 12740 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=63: 18.843
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=1: 10.036
- Q Value selected: 1
- Analyzing VTS_07 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):31.486
-- Sampling 84 of 4155 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=34: 30.029
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=31: 29.906
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=28: 37.031
- Q Value selected: 34
- Analyzing VTS_08 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):24.744
-- Sampling 96 of 4418 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=46: 7.557
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=1: 2.781
- Q Value selected: 1
- Analyzing VTS_09 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):18.687
-- Sampling 84 of 3985 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=55: 9.602
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=14: 39.688
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=35: 18.365
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=34: 19.009
- Q Value selected: 35
- Analyzing VTS_10 for optimal Q factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):20.834
-- Sampling 96 of 4448 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=55: 11.786
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=19: 33.176
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=34: 16.868
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=24: 23.372
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=28: 22.069
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=30: 17.386
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=23: 23.499
-- Predicted size (sectors) at Q=27: 22.507
- Q Value selected: 29
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 7,4%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 8.808/400/2.330 Kbs
[17:36:55] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 28 minutes.
[17:36:55] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTSM_01 segment 13
- Extracting STILLS for VTSM_01 segment 14
- Extracting STILLS for VTSM_01 segment 15
- Extracting STILLS for VTSM_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 12

3. an AQE's log.txt:

[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - AutoQMatEnc Version 0, 33, 0, 7
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 53
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Auto QMat Intra Max : 185
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Auto QMat Inter Max : 185
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Width : 352 ; Height : 480 ; Bitrate Equivalent : 5252727
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - QMatOp feature enabled.
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Following constraints will be used for QMatOp :
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Intra Min : 8 ; Inter Min : 16 ; Intra Max : 185 ; Inter Max : 185 ; DCTune precision : 5
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Automatic Multithread mode enabled : 3 threads will be used
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Normal Bitrate mode engaged
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:43 2006] - Pass 1/3 - Bitrate : 2568000
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:47 2006] - Info: 'C:\RB_PRO\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs' hasn't any audio.
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:47 2006] - C:\RB_PRO\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs: 352x480, 23976/1000 fps, 574 frames
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:47 2006] - converting ? -> RGB24
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:47 2006] - Assigned new RGB clip
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:47 2006] - AVS File opened successfully
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:47 2006] - Chosen multiplier for QMatop : 6
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:59 2006] - Normalized matrix
8 8 8 9 10 13 18 85
8 9 8 8 10 11 15 53
8 8 10 11 12 14 21 84
9 9 11 15 18 23 83 132
10 10 12 18 28 113 132 132
14 12 15 23 132 132 132 132
19 16 21 132 132 132 132 132
56 53 108 132 132 132 132 133
16 16 16 17 19 21 26 34
16 17 16 16 18 20 22 27
16 16 18 19 20 22 25 31
17 16 19 23 25 28 34 55
19 18 20 25 31 42 69 106
21 19 22 28 42 76 140 141
26 22 25 34 71 140 141 141
35 27 32 56 91 141 141 141
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:59 2006] - Darkness level : 0.164205
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:59 2006] - Ratio : 4/3
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:59 2006] - Init Buffer : 107107
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:59 2006] - Initial Complexity : 0.168627
[Sat Aug 12 18:24:59 2006] - RCmin : -4085060 ; DarkLim: 0.098489 ; Tolerance : 3774000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:12 2006] - The Average FPS for this pass was : 44.000000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:12 2006] - Done
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:12 2006] - Normal Bitrate mode engaged
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:12 2006] - Pass 2/3 - Bitrate : 2568000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Info: 'C:\RB_PRO\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs' hasn't any audio.
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - C:\RB_PRO\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs: 352x480, 23976/1000 fps, 574 frames
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - converting ? -> RGB24
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Assigned new RGB clip
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - AVS File opened successfully
8 8 8 9 10 13 18 85
8 9 8 8 10 11 15 53
8 8 10 11 12 14 21 84
9 9 11 15 18 23 83 132
10 10 12 18 28 113 132 132
14 12 15 23 132 132 132 132
19 16 21 132 132 132 132 132
56 53 108 132 132 132 132 133
16 16 16 17 19 21 26 34
16 17 16 16 18 20 22 27
16 16 18 19 20 22 25 31
17 16 19 23 25 28 34 55
19 18 20 25 31 42 69 106
21 19 22 28 42 76 140 141
26 22 25 34 71 140 141 141
35 27 32 56 91 141 141 141
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Darkness level : 0.164205
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Ratio : 4/3
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Init Buffer : 107107
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Initial Complexity : 0.168627
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - RCmin : -4085054 ; DarkLim: 0.098489 ; Tolerance : 3774000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Processing VAF file
Q[1]=302 Q[2]=36 Q[3]=25 Q[4]=26 Q[5]=72 Q[6]=97 Q[7]=7 Q[8]=8 Q[9]=1 Q[10]=0 Q[11]=0 Q[12]=0 Q[13]=0 Q[14]=0 Q[15]=0 Q[16]=0 Q[17]=0 Q[18]=0 Q[19]=0 Q[20]=0 Q[21]=0 Q[22]=0 Q[23]=0 Q[24]=0 Q[25]=0 Q[26]=0 Q[27]=0 Q[28]=0 Q[29]=0 Q[30]=0 Q[31]=0 Q[32]=0 Q[33]=0 Q[34]=0 Q[35]=0 Q[36]=0 Q[37]=0 Q[38]=0 Q[39]=0 Q[40]=0 Q[41]=0 Q[42]=0 Q[43]=0 Q[44]=0 Q[45]=0 Q[46]=0 Q[47]=0 Q[48]=0 Q[49]=0 Q[50]=0 Q[51]=0 Q[52]=0 Q[53]=0 Q[54]=0 Q[55]=0 Q[56]=0 Q[57]=0 Q[58]=0 Q[59]=0 Q[60]=0 Q[61]=0 Q[62]=0 Q[63]=0 Q[64]=0
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - QM : 9 ; maxQpercent : 0.00174216 ; partialQsum : 1
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - QM : 8 ; maxQpercent : 0.0156794 ; partialQsum : 9
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:16 2006] - Calculated Min Qmin : 1 ; Max Qmax : 8
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:29 2006] - The Average FPS for this pass was : 44.000000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:29 2006] - Done
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:29 2006] - Normal Bitrate mode engaged
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:29 2006] - Pass 3/3 - Bitrate : 2568000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Info: 'C:\RB_PRO\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs' hasn't any audio.
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - C:\RB_PRO\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs: 352x480, 23976/1000 fps, 574 frames
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - converting ? -> RGB24
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Assigned new RGB clip
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - AVS File opened successfully
8 8 8 9 10 13 18 85
8 9 8 8 10 11 15 53
8 8 10 11 12 14 21 84
9 9 11 15 18 23 83 132
10 10 12 18 28 113 132 132
14 12 15 23 132 132 132 132
19 16 21 132 132 132 132 132
56 53 108 132 132 132 132 133
16 16 16 17 19 21 26 34
16 17 16 16 18 20 22 27
16 16 18 19 20 22 25 31
17 16 19 23 25 28 34 55
19 18 20 25 31 42 69 106
21 19 22 28 42 76 140 141
26 22 25 34 71 140 141 141
35 27 32 56 91 141 141 141
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Darkness level : 0.164205
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Ratio : 4/3
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Init Buffer : 107107
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Initial Complexity : 0.168627
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - RCmin : -4085054 ; DarkLim: 0.098489 ; Tolerance : 3774000
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Processing VAF file
Q[1]=302 Q[2]=36 Q[3]=25 Q[4]=26 Q[5]=72 Q[6]=97 Q[7]=7 Q[8]=8 Q[9]=1 Q[10]=0 Q[11]=0 Q[12]=0 Q[13]=0 Q[14]=0 Q[15]=0 Q[16]=0 Q[17]=0 Q[18]=0 Q[19]=0 Q[20]=0 Q[21]=0 Q[22]=0 Q[23]=0 Q[24]=0 Q[25]=0 Q[26]=0 Q[27]=0 Q[28]=0 Q[29]=0 Q[30]=0 Q[31]=0 Q[32]=0 Q[33]=0 Q[34]=0 Q[35]=0 Q[36]=0 Q[37]=0 Q[38]=0 Q[39]=0 Q[40]=0 Q[41]=0 Q[42]=0 Q[43]=0 Q[44]=0 Q[45]=0 Q[46]=0 Q[47]=0 Q[48]=0 Q[49]=0 Q[50]=0 Q[51]=0 Q[52]=0 Q[53]=0 Q[54]=0 Q[55]=0 Q[56]=0 Q[57]=0 Q[58]=0 Q[59]=0 Q[60]=0 Q[61]=0 Q[62]=0 Q[63]=0 Q[64]=0
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - QM : 9 ; maxQpercent : 0.00174216 ; partialQsum : 1
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - QM : 8 ; maxQpercent : 0.0156794 ; partialQsum : 9
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Calculated Min Qmin : 1 ; Max Qmax : 8
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Expected size : 7684934 ; Real Size : 7742861 ; Error : -0.75 %
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Good rate control no need to have one more pass....
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Final Result :
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Expected size : 7684934 ; Real Size : 7742861 ; Error : -0.75 %
[Sat Aug 12 18:25:34 2006] - Total time elapsed : 51 seconds

JFYI. :)

Regards,

[danpos]

@jdobbs

OK, I redid the backup, disabled the "Enable Menu Encoding" option and I got the same result: OPV mode in AQE isn't engaged when the Encoding phase gets started (instead of Multipass is engaged).

Is it a bug?

JFYI.

Regards,

[jdobbs]

The OPV mode is set by the "video_type=" variable in the ECL file. That hasn't changed from earlier versions -- so I have to guess that AQE is acting differently.

Note: For AutoQMatEnc in OPV the value will be set to "video_type=2"

[SAPSTAR]

The OPV mode is set by the "video_type=" variable in the ECL file. That hasn't changed from earlier versions -- so I have to guess that AQE is acting differently.

Note: For AutoQMatEnc in OPV the value will be set to "video_type=2"
video_type=2 is still OPV. It never changed. Could we have the REBUILDER.ECL, it would be interesting?!(just a link to it or a part of it...)
[EDIT] I was able to reproduce the pb(I just started an OPV encode with AQE). I checked the ECLs which are generated...some are video_type=2 others are video_type=4 (not only the menu). There is definitely something wrong there.(see the attachment it's the REBUILDER.ECL, you will see the mix of OPV and Multipass)

[jdobbs]

No... what you're seeing is correct. You'll notice that the sections set to "video_type=2" are all all small segments (less than 60 frames) or stills. Here is a quote from the changes to version 0.86. So it's been working that way since April of 2005.

- Again changed the method of encoding for very
small segments. Some reports of CCE CRC errors
make it necessary to create a "workaround". Now
all segments of less than 60 frames are encoded
using one pass VBR in CCE SP versions. Single
frames encoded with CCE Basic are done in CBR.
The Pro version still retains STILLS intact.

Judging by what I see in the ECL, it appears OPV was not selected on the "AutoQMatEnc Options" menu.

[Edit] You may want to check the INI file and see if the flag is on. I'll look in my code and see if I find anything... but it wouldn't have changed in this version...

[jdobbs]

Ok. I found it.

Interesting. From what I see it means OPV in DVD-RB has never worked for AutoQMatEnc -- hmm... I guess nobody ever noticed before. I've fixed it for the next version.

[SAPSTAR]

Ok. I found it.

Interesting. From what I see it means OPV in DVD-RB has never worked for AutoQMatEnc -- hmm... I guess nobody ever noticed before. I've fixed it for the next version.
Great!!! I'm not that surprised....OPV is generally used by people who want something fast. AQE is not fast enough for those people...my thought.

[danpos]

Ok. I found it.

Interesting. From what I see it means OPV in DVD-RB has never worked for AutoQMatEnc -- hmm... I guess nobody ever noticed before. I've fixed it for the next version.

As a matter of fact, I did a bunch of encoding using AQE in OPV mode but when it did 'mimic' CCE SP before you to implement native support to AQE; so, in this context it's true that "OPV in DVD-RB has never worked for AutoQMatEnc", but if I go to this 'old way', for shure that AQE will working in OPV mode (again, with it 'mimicking' the CCE SP).

I'm glad that you will implement this feature in the next release. :)

Regards,

[Rippraff]

Another thing which I realized when I made the ILVU tests are the Bias settings: I set it to 20 under AQE settings in RB, but AQE log shows different values, for example:
[Sat Aug 12 19:06:41 2006] - AutoBias : Bias selected : 13

Cu Rippraff

[Fishman0919]

AQE uses AutoBias, so it set it for each segment

[Rippraff]

Okay, but why do we have a manual bias setting for AQE? ;)

Cu Rippraff

[jdobbs]

As a matter of fact, I did a bunch of encoding using AQE in OPV mode but when it did 'mimic' CCE SP before you to implement native support to AQE; so, in this context it's true that "OPV in DVD-RB has never worked for AutoQMatEnc", but if I go to this 'old way', for shure that AQE will working in OPV mode (again, with it 'mimicking' the CCE SP).

I'm glad that you will implement this feature in the next release. :)

Regards,Yes. They would have worked if you had used it by pointing the CCE SP path to AQE. It's only since AQE was added as an option that the OPV wasn't working. The condition telling the ECL generator routine to use OPV was just never added for AQE mode. The only time you'd see it after that would be for the "small segment" exception.

Even after the AQE option was added the encodes still would have worked -- but the output would be generated by multipass encoding -- kinda' defeating the purpose of OPV.

[SAPSTAR]

Okay, but why do we have a manual bias setting for AQE? ;)

Cu Rippraff
There is still a manual way, set it negative and the chosen value will be what is set (without the - of course)

[Rippraff]

@SAPSTAR

Maybe a misunderstanding, I don't want to force AQE to use a special bias setting, I'm pretty sure it works well the way it does. :)

http://www.rippraff.de/Pics/AQE_settings.png

So the bias settings will be ignored anyway and you can't enter negative values because you have only a slider.
Wouldn't it be better to remove this slider completely?

What about quality precision, has this setting an effect or will it be ignored too?

Cu Rippraff

[jdobbs]

I know I've mentioned this before... it seems it would make more sense to read the ECL in the same way CCE does since it is using the CCE ECL format (meaning positive values set the bias). This kinda' makes it incompatible, doesn't it?

Has it always worked this way?

I can change the slider so it feeds negative values to AQE... but I guess I just don't understand the logic.

[Rippraff]

I can change the slider so it feeds negative values to AQE... but I guess I just don't understand the logic.
Beside the logic that would mean you would always use manual bias settings, which isn't SAPSTARs aim, i guess. ;)

Cu Rippraff

[jdobbs]

Hmm...

@SAPSTAR

Automatic Bias the preferred setting I assume? I can always add an "Automatic Bias" checkbox.

[SAPSTAR]

Hmm...

@SAPSTAR

Automatic Bias the preferred setting I assume? I can always add an "Automatic Bias" checkbox.
Yep. In fact, my idea with AQE is to make it as much automatic as possible in order to allow Mr Everybody to achieve some quality encodes without knowing a thing about MPEG2. That's why the Bias is by default automatic....But I suppose a checkmark + slider should allow people to set their own Bias.