DVD Decrypter Cells/Chapters

[mickee13]

Disc shows VTS 01-PGC1 (00:55:03) with 11 chapters and 19 cells checked....trying to rip into a single VOB in IFO mode with file splitting to none. When I grab the single VOB and drop it into Vegas 6, all I get is like 3 seconds of footage?? What am I doing wrong here?

[blutach]

What's the size of the output VOB? You could post a log, but please delete the CSS keys, as these are intellectual property of the studio, which we do not allow publication of.

Regards

[mickee13]

The single vob shows as 3.6gig?? Regarding intellectual property, it's ok, this is my footage shot from my camera. I have to make MPEG1 out of the DVD's. I shoot directly into a hard disk recorder which normally works fine. However, I recently went to a straight DVD recorder deck without the harddrive and it creates all these cells/chapters while my other deck doesn't do this, it just creates a single pgc with no chapters or cells?

[blutach]

Well, there's no need for DVD Decrypter then.

Sounds like your Vegas doesn't like the input it's getting.

Post your DVD Decrypter log anyway - it might contain some info. As well, what are the setting you have for IFO mode?

Given this is your own footage, you can post the IFOs coming out of the rip, too if you wish.

Regards

[mickee13]

Thanks for you patience in trying to help, I'm fairly new to this stuff. From my HDD-DVD recorder, I can directly record into the HD, only hitting pause when there's a break in shooting and I get one pgc with 1 chapter, 1 cell that rips nicely and the whole single vob goes into Vegas where I re-encode the audio and later setup batch encodes in TMPG to make mpeg1 files....all is good.
As mentioned the problem comes from this other deck I got that just straight burns DVD's without hard drive, it creates multiple chapters/cells, even for 1 hour of straight footage with no breaks.

Anyway, how do I post a log?

IFO settings are default, but with file splitting set to none.

Well, there's no need for DVD Decrypter then.

Sounds like your Vegas doesn't like the input it's getting.

Post your DVD Decrypter log anyway - it might contain some info. As well, what are the setting you have for IFO mode?

Given this is your own footage, you can post the IFOs coming out of the rip, too if you wish.

Regards

[mickee13]

Ok, I guess this is the log you're talking about. Not sure how to post "...IFO's coming out of rip..."?

I 15:10:20 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 15:10:20 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
W 15:10:20 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
I 15:10:20 Initialising SPTI...
I 15:10:20 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 15:10:20 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW!
I 15:20:56 Operation Started!
I 15:20:56 Source Device: [1:0:0] QSI CDRW/DVD SBW242U UD25 (D:) (ATA)
I 15:20:56 Source Media Type: DVD-R
I 15:20:56 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 15:20:56 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 15:20:56 Source Media Implementation Identifier: MEI_VED
I 15:20:56 Destination Folder: E:\
I 15:20:56 File Splitting: None
I 15:20:56 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 15:20:57 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 15:20:57 Stream Processing: No
I 15:21:00 Decryption Key: N/A
I 15:21:00 Extracting Sectors...
I 15:27:09 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:12
I 15:27:09 Average Read Rate: 3,651 KB/s (2.6x) - Maximum Read Rate: 4,582 KB/s (3.3x)

[blutach]

I'm sorry - I'm not familiar with Vegas. But it doesn't seem to be a ripping problem. I doubt the number of chapters and cells are the issue, but I could be wrong - it might only be setup to pick upo the first cell and that might be 3 seconds.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Hi!the problem comes from this other deck I got that just straight burns DVD's without hard drive, it creates multiple chapters/cells, even for 1 hour of straight footage with no breaks.I'd suggest you check the available settings for this recorder (onscreen and/or documentation)...

[WarDog]

@mickee13

I am not saying this will help your your situation, but if you have a Dell OEM drive it looks like there is a firmware update for it (UD27) you can see for yourself here (http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1914).
What brand media is that you are trying to copy? I don't recognize it.

[mickee13]

Thanks for the input folks.
The dvd recorder is just at default record settings and there is nothing in documenation that helps with things like chapter/cell settings on the disc. I think blutach is right in that it is a Vegas issue only picking up the first cell even though the single vob file is imported. I probably wouldn't even have to bother with the vegas part as TMPG can usually make mpeg1's direct from discs but the audio from my camera is pcm uncompressed with TMPG cannot work with, so I have to re-encode it.....blah blah.

Anyway, thanks for the head's up on the firmware update for my drive etc, but I actually send the files to an exteral unit anyway, and I don't know what the media is, got a bunch of free unlabeled plain discs with the duplicator tower I bought, but it happens no matter what brand I use.

Just need to try and figure out the cell/vegas situation....somehow?

[blutach]

If that's the case that it only picks up a single cell/chapter, you can try to demux it and remux it with muxman without a celltimes.txt file. This will remux it as a single celled VOB. It will probably come out as 4 VOBs though, so you can then join them with a dos copy /b command.

Regards

[mickee13]

If only I knew what that meant....ha ha. Ok, so muxman I take it is some kind of program....I seem to recall Decrypter having some kind of 'mux' setting....? I guess i'm in over my head here, no idea what join with dos copy comand means....why would it create 4 vobs?

If that's the case that it only picks up a single cell/chapter, you can try to demux it and remux it with muxman without a celltimes.txt file. This will remux it as a single celled VOB. It will probably come out as 4 VOBs though, so you can then join them with a dos copy /b command.

Regards

[blutach]

Muxman is a DVD authoring program. It takes elementary streams (m2v, ac3 and srt, amongst others) and combines them together into a VOB file which you are probably familiar with. Get it from the link in my signature.

In order to use it, you need to feed it the various streams. So you need to demux your current 3.6Gb VOB. PgcDemux can do this for you - get it from the VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) site (or as you have observed, DVD Decrypter will, too - see guide here (http://www.doom9.org/dvddec.htm) for how).

Feeding the streams into muxman is pretty intuitive. It will produce compliant DVD output, which is why the VOBs will be no more than 1Gb. If you are sure then that you need a single VOB to feed into Vegas, it is very easy to combine them.

http://www.digital-digest.com/~blutach/gl1.gif

Regards

[setarip_old]

The dvd recorder is just at default record settingsWhat is the brand and model number?

Read the posts in this thread (particularly the ones referring to "AutoChapter"), as it may be applicable to your problem:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=113788&highlight=chapters+recorder

[mickee13]

Wow, thanks for the info, it's over my head, but I may be able to work through it. My only other question is, when you say it's easy to combine the resulting vobs from muxman etc, is that something that muxman allows you to do? or is that some other process, ie: your dos copy command?
Thanks again, hopefully I can make this work.

Muxman is a DVD authoring program. It takes elementary streams (m2v, ac3 and srt, amongst others) and combines them together into a VOB file which you are probably familiar with. Get it from the link in my signature.

In order to use it, you need to feed it the various streams. So you need to demux your current 3.6Gb VOB. PgcDemux can do this for you - get it from the VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) site (or as you have observed, DVD Decrypter will, too - see guide here (http://www.doom9.org/dvddec.htm) for how).

Feeding the streams into muxman is pretty intuitive. It will produce compliant DVD output, which is why the VOBs will be no more than 1Gb. If you are sure then that you need a single VOB to feed into Vegas, it is very easy to combine them.

http://www.digital-digest.com/~blutach/gl1.gif

Regards

[mickee13]

Interesting, thank you for that. That could solve future recordings, however doesn't help with my archived footage that has to be mpeg1'd.
Cheers.

What is the brand and model number?

Read the posts in this thread (particularly the ones referring to "AutoChapter"), as it may be applicable to your problem:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=113788&highlight=chapters+recorder

[blutach]

when you say it's easy to combine the resulting vobs from muxman etc, is that something that muxman allows you to do? or is that some other process, ie: your dos copy command?Yes, it's easy to combine files.

From Windows: Start - Run - cmd

Find your way to the folder where your files are.

To combine 3 VOBs (say) use this command:

copy /b VTS_01_1.VOB + VTS_01_2.VOB + VTS_01_3.VOB Combine.VOB

Move and rename the VOB later.

Regards