Why would i want to use GK instead of AutoGK? [Archive]

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OscarWabbit

20th July 2006, 15:35

hello

im just wondering, what can GK do that AutoGK cant do?

i keep reading recommendations for GK over AutoGK, but so far, ive ripped about 20 dvds with AutoGK and im delighted with the results.

no faffing around with the XVID codec settings (which i feel i understand anyway pretty well (using Keopis 1.1 build)), a nice simple user interface which does everything i need, and AVI output files exactly to the size i request with excellent quality, so im not at all clear on what benefits i would derive from switching to GK if im totally happy with AutoGK.

any advice appreciated

thanks

jggimi

20th July 2006, 15:55

OscarWabbit

20th July 2006, 16:34

jggimi

20th July 2006, 16:45

You won't need GK unless or until AutoGK doesn't do something that you feel you need or want. :rolleyes:

unskinnyboy

20th July 2006, 16:47

wow, someone can't understand jggimi?!

What jggimi was saying was that, with GK you can add other Avisynth filters for pre-processing the video and also you can tweak the codec settings if you want. With AutoGK, you can't do all these. Also, based on the parameters you select for encoding, GK generates an AviSynth script for you, which you can copy/paste and use in other applications which will take an avisynth input.

So if you don't want to be doing all these, just stick with AutoGK.

OscarWabbit

20th July 2006, 16:48

In particular, custom control of video filtration (AviSynth scripting) and codec settings. In addition, GK can be used as an .avs generator for use in other toolsets, such as SVCD generators, or for manual encoding.

just to clarify, i understand what you mean be being able to fiddle with the codec settings, which may be useful for setting black and white films, or cartoon mode, so i get that bit.

but i dont get what you mean by avisynth scripting - whats that all about ??? :(

i also dont know what you mean by GK can be used as an .avs generator - whats one of them when its at home? and why would i need to generate SVCD when all i want is best quality XVID files at the smallest possible file size?

would appreciate more clarification, rather than sarcasm ;)

please be gentle with me, im pretty new to all this.

ta

OscarWabbit

20th July 2006, 16:50

whats avisynth all about?

<bangs head against wall>

unskinnyboy

20th July 2006, 16:53

but i dont get what you mean by avisynth scripting - whats that all about ??? :(
Something which I will never understand about some people is - when they hear something which they haven't heard about before, w-h-y wouldn't they feel the urge to find out about it themselves before immediately asking back "what the heck is that"?

Just plug in the words "avisynth scripting" in Google and you'll be surprised at the amount of results. Or just take your baby steps here: http://avisynth.org/.

I don't think you will need to use GK for a long time to come.

jggimi

20th July 2006, 17:14

It is a little intimidating, O.W., to find out that there are technologies involved that you are completely unaware of.

To use a fairly loose analogy, it was a little like our conversation went as follows:"I'm happy with my car and its automatic transmission. I keep hearing about how some people prefer standard transmissions. Why would I want one?"

"A standard transmission allows you to select specific gears, which combined with manual clutch control provide you with significantly more control over your driving. You can use the engine to aid in braking, and have specific rpm range control in a variety of situations."

"Hold on here! That's way too much information. First, I own a Gear brand jacket, but I don't want to have to carry a clutch purse in order to drive with it. Also, what's an rpm, and why would it range near my car in the first place?" Silly, yes, but with that analogy, you can see why my follow-up answer was not to bother with GK at all. You wouldn't recommend a stick shift car to someone who has little interest / need / desire for more control.

But I can say that all of us started where you are today. It takes some research and perhaps a little experimentation, in order to learn about technologies with which you are completely unfamiliar, and then to determine whether or not they would be of benefit.

OscarWabbit

21st July 2006, 06:01

thanks jggmi,

i'll do some more reading up (it just seems there are SO MANY tools for ripping/decrypting/encoding dvds, its all a bit overwhelming.

sorry if ive p*ssed people off with dumb newbie questions.

no offence meant.

thanks

Wilbert

21st July 2006, 15:32

@OscarWabbit, AutoGK and also GKnot use AviSynth to do the processing (deinterlacing, resizing, etc ...). In AutoGK you don't see it, because it's all automated, but in GKnot you can edit the AviSynth script file (*.avs) and add filters of your personal taste.

The Analog Capture guide gives you a nice overview of some of the basic capabilities of AviSynth:

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/capture/postprocessing_avisynth.html

Ok, it's tuned for processing analog caps, but many of it (deinterlacing, resizing, color correction, etc ...) is also very usefull in other situations.

Also don't forget about:

http://www.avisynth.org/mediawiki/wiki/Main_Page#New_to_AviSynth_-_start_here